I never knew there was such a direct link between Ghandi and the American Civil rights movement. Thanks Crash Course for highlighting the great things that have been accomplished in the 20th century though noble means. I hope world remembers these lessons and replicates them as it tackles it's current and future problems.
Most annoying thing on youtube tbh.... really silent video's, freakishly loud intro's and advertisers that think their product will sell even better if they have advertisements with sound as loud as the video format will possibly allow.
i feel that the way history is taught by highlighting just major wars inadvertently glorifies war and makes it seem productive when in fact, it's just that not a lot of productive peaceful events were mentioned.
Well, that's not entirely true. History has shown us that war can really help a Capitalist economy. For example, other than FDR's New Deal programs, WW2 played a large role in saving America's Capitalist economy from destruction caused by the Great Depression which began in 1929.
Tasheem Hargrove Yes, I never said war didn't drive productivity. I was saying there are also peaceful events that drive productivity as shown in this video.
I like the reminder at the end that, overall, we're living in probably the most peaceful time in human history. Yes, we've got a lot of work to do. But we can't forget that we are, in fact, doing that work and succeeding.
Not really. Our government goes to the Middle East and fucks people up by the millions. Then it tries to act like it against violence by sanctioning the shit out of Russia for allegedly having troops in Ukraine. Right when we left Iraq, we fucked up and left ISIS there infect the place.
And those are legitimate criticisms. It's still the case that in almost every part of the world, your odds of dying by violence are at an all-time low. The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.
***** I haven't denied that war and violence still exist, and remain a problem. But the statistics are what they are. There are fewer wars today than at any time in history. The odds of dying by violence today are lower than at any time in history. I recommend reading 'The Better Angels of Our Nature.' There's no guarantee that violence will continue to decline, and we still have to do the work to make sure that the world becomes a more peaceful place. But violence is on the decline, and has been for a very long time.
***** No, it doesn't look like that. From the individual level to the national, violence has been on a steady decline. I'm aware of the number of current conflicts. I'm also aware that that number drops almost every year. www.ted.com/talks/steven_pinker_on_the_myth_of_violence?language=en
I agree with you Matthew. I mean look at the past and compare how much wars were waged before compared to now. Humans are not perfect but it is really visible to see how much society became more peaceful. I can't help but say that people who are skeptical seemed to be brainwashed by news media. Like historians are interested in reading about wars, media consumers like seeing conflicts in news.
Hey there Crash Course. You know what sound Balance is? It's when I listen to John at comfortable volume and then I am not blasted against the wall with the Theme Tune.
you have no idea how happy I am that you guys are talking about Bayard Rustin's contribution to non-violence and the civil rights movement. He such an important part of history and almost no one knows about him. I have literally had to tell that specific chunk of history for my friends every time MLK day rolls around. Thank you so much!
any news? or is this one of the endless ignored and forgotten comments that i cannot gather up quickly, and fast enough to keep them from disappearing forever?
Albert Einstein “On the occasion of Mahatma Gandhi's 70th birthday. "Generations to come, it may well be, will scarce believe that such a man as this one ever in flesh and blood walked upon this Earth.”
Thank you for making such an important video that outlines the tactics employed throughout the last century. Nonviolent protests are highly underrated and need to be looked to more often.
Crash course is my favorite channel of RUclips. Probably because I love learning, and I can understand what he's saying and the visual effects help. I'm a pacifist and have been for awhile. I really love this video.
Part of my family ancestry is Quaker. The Quakers have a long history of non-violence, and their anti-war stance has often led to them being subjected to threats at violence on the home front. Like John Green said at the beginning of the video, “Peaceful non-violent protest is often just peaceful on the one side.”
I would like to add the Irish to the list of nonviolent movements. That may sound crazy if you look at the IRA, but they were not the only people in the Irish movement. The word boycott comes from the non-violent Irish shunning of British Captain Boycott.
@@KevinOrePflucker I want peaceful protests in America, but right now people are acting based on anger and I understand oppression has lasted for centuries and the justice system hasn't been reformed the way blacks and minorities want it. I think peaceful protests can be achieved at a greater length. However, a peaceful protest takes more time to organize and a strong leader in front of it all. On the other side of things, a violent protest can be difficult to talk about whether it's right or wrong because everywhere around America it's executed differently. Not to mention, violent protests show faster results because politicians want to see less destruction in their cities. A violent protest and peaceful protest have been achieved at this time and I would do either even though I prefer one over the other. If anyone is to protest make sure it is executed correctly. My words don't do justice and I implore anyone to listen to the actual activists using their words which are making change in America. I know someone out there is gonna take this out of context and they'll say "He's part of the problem if he doesn't choose violence and he's just as bad as a cop" and I'm here to tell you I signed a petition, I plan to donate to this cause, and I plan to go out on protest. I'm sick and tired of minorities dying from a cop without fighting back. Know that MLK and Malcolm X, people of opposite strategies in protesting, coexisted at one point in time. So again, but more concisely, I don't devalue a peaceful or violent protest.
On some level, I think this is part of the reason I feel that society isn't on the verge of imminent collapse. Many of the structures and systems that we have known are very likely to go through tumultuous upheaval, but this peaceful tide of the twentieth and early twenty first centuries leaves me optimistic for the future to come. Peace is not certain, and tyranny can take many forms, returning generation after generation. But if we can learn how to peacefully resist tyranny, we can overcome it.
I was thinking, I think it would be great if Crashcourse could make a video about Marxism/Leninism/Communism and its progression from Marx to Lenin to Stalin to Mao and so on. Keep up the great work!
@@jackreynolds6180 that's exactly why I was here cause I had an argument with a rioter and needed to prove him the times nonviolence solved cases but all he could say was despite the "nonviolence" statement there was still violence n a lot of deaths n completely missed the point.... Smh they just never learn.
@@wilsonson_of_will2041 by rioting they are giving the opposition more of a reason to hate them and swaying others to side with the opposition. Even the family of George and close friends don't support the riots and the lootings. This fight for freedom won't be won with violence it will be won with starving of support and currently the rioters are doing that exact thing but to themselves
@@jackreynolds6180 hopefully they will eventually get this and we can start putting effort towards a fight that will really right the wrongs n bring the much needed justice.
@@wilsonson_of_will2041 agreed the sacrifice for this to happen will be that the protesters will need to face injustice for the corrupt to be revealed and people to stop supporting them it's a sacrifice far better than burning down each other's lives and enraging the people and the government.
A little known fact: the title of Tolstoi's book "War and Peace" is mistranslated in many languages, including English. The original title is "Война и мир". Война means war, it is translated correctly, but the word "мир" can either mean peace or world. Now, the worlds are spelled the same, but in Tolstoi's time, the Russian word for world was spelled "миръ", which is found in the title. What I'm trying to say is that Tolstoi's book is actually called "War and world", which makes sense, because there never was a time of peace during the events described in the book. But the mistranslated title "War and Peace" has become so famous it would be silly to release a new translation with the correct title.
Biggest mistake today ..... reading the comments. I guess not even CrashCourse can get away from this cancer disease that is spreading throughout RUclips.
I love how it is easier to get people in the RUclips comments section to agree that two of the most prolific advocates for peace in the 20th century had bad character traits and yet it is controversial to say that Chris Klye had bad character traits. "The Internet"
I really like your show, I myself am from Russia and this video is very relevant in our time and allows us to look into the past and build the future. Thanks you.👍
очень смешно, ты хвалишь видео чувака который только поверхностно вдается в такие темы как пражская весна и хвалишь за его усердие???? я почему то уверен что его историческая оценка заангажирована чуть более чем полностью
Hey John, big fan of your videos. I was wondering if for the next season for World History you could focus it around specific individual figures in history that the average person don't know about.
@@but_is_it_really Yes but the presence of others doesn't make the sins of Europe okay just cause they 'rocked the last 1000yrs'. The thing about conquering is that it's inherently bad and causes suffering to all subjected to it
John is correct we don't often study the history of nonviolent movements and in the 20th century it is one of the biggest influence in the world. Sure humanity is not perfect but after watching the video, my faith in humanity is restored :)
In New Zealand we had some non violent protests in the 1880's. At Parihaka the Maori people protested against British sovereignty and them taking the land from the native people.
Hey Crash Course! Tolstoy actually wrote a letter to a Hindu to Tarak Nath Das, not Gandhi. However, Gandhi did translate it and publish it in his language. Later, Tolstoy and Gandhi did write letters back and fourth. Maybe you can add a note to the video to clarify the mistake. Thanks!
Your videos are great. thanks for making and posting them. I am impressed and confused at how prolific you are with these, especially since the are so densely packed with info. you must work all week on them!!!
you should study the Moriori culture of the Chatham Islands, smaller in population and extremely isolated since 1500, the Moriori practiced a code of non-violence and passive resistance, unfortunately this spelled their downfall due to the Taranaki Maori invasion in 1832
On a technical note, is it me or is John's voice (and Hank's for the science courses) frequently really low in the sound mix? The music is usually a good level but the vocal track is very quiet.
Every great leader has flaws much like every human being. The difference is that were willing to give their lives for peace in spite of their flaws unlike many people who criticize them afar.
deliberatly giving wrong directions to tanks is one of the coolest examples of civil disobedience that I've ever heard of. although of course ruling without tanks might just be a tat bit cooler.
The Ninjanomacom's Dojo I bet the people in Africa whose livelihood comes from raising beef cattle and hunting would love to see such a policy. Starvation of humans is a-okay as long as the animals don't suffer.
Goabnb94 Yeah, humans are animals, but that's not important. What's important is that seeing animals as more important than humans is very silly. Just see them as equals, it's not so hard to do. Sure, our species commits a lot of atrocities and we are over-populated, but we do have our good sides too. Eating meat is something that shouldn't be ridiculed for the main reason that other animals eat other animals too. We are omnivores. You could say we were designed to eat only fruit and plants, but there is also proof that we were designed to eat meat. I mean even out enzymes and guts were designed for meat....I'm not saying we should slaughter chickens and pigs via smashing there heads and slowly letting blood drip from their necks, I'm saying that 1. Eating meat is no bad thing 2. We shouldn't think ourselves as less than other animals, because frankly, we're not. We are intelligent, universe understanding and self-conscious beings. Talk shit about humans who waste space, but not about the whole human species. Heck, one day we'll leave planet Earth one day anyway (not saying we shouldn't care about Earth though). So look at the big picture, not that small one over there.
Just a thing on video production: John's voice seems to be way under the average sound volume here, the music of the intro and of thought bubble are way louder than his voice, and on average, I needed to set my speakers louder than compare to other videos, in order to listen what he was saying. Pleaseee :) PS: I love this channel!
Karl Karlos So it's difficult to hear him. So if you turn it up loud enough to hear John then you get deafened by the music. Why so inexplicably dismissive?!
Seriously CC: Sound Balance. SOUND BALANCE! I should not have to turn my volume up to hear John and then get my ears blown out when the intro comes on. Sound Balance!!
The problem with non-violent movements is that without more violent contemporary movements they aren't very effective. What they are is politically appealing to those already in power. Gandhi was appealing to the British Empire because he was a safe, unthreatening entity to negotiate with (and he also had a long history as pro-Imperialist sell out and previous recruiter for the royal army). What Gandhi was not was a threat to power. The same is true of MLK. Without more aggressive contemporaries, he's just another preacher preaching, and despite what the inneffective inactivists of the left want everyone to believe, talking about things is not doing things. Propaganda of the deed is infinitely more effective than propaganda of the word, at least insofar as effecting change. Advocating for nonviolent, (non)resistance to empire is advocating for imperialism, and if you'll bother to notice each of your examples of nonviolent revolutionaries represent a people still under the thumb of their still current but now economic instead of political imperial betters. Either resist oppression or don't, but at the very least don't undermine the efforts of those who do engage in direct (read: effective and meaningful) action.
hectroinfectro I don't think he ever undermined the efforts of ones who fought against the unfairness of the ones in power with aggression. He just simply try to present to us the successes of peaceful movements, even if it doesn't always succeed. Besides, he still acknowledged the fact that there have been nonviolent movements that have failed. It's not like he views these situations in a completely black-and-white manner.
Rallinale Oh, my bad. I got on my soapbox and forgot partway through that that I had started as if I were addressing John directly and finished addressing a generic, self-congratulatory inactivist.
hectroinfectro Okay, my mistake. The way your comment was worded make it seem to me that you're talking to John Green instead of simply talking to "a generic self-congratulatory inactivist", so sorry that I misinterpret it.
You'll find that Gandhi was much more interested in action than words- a lot of people think that nonviolence is ineffectual and weak, focusing on words and pleading. The opposite is the case. Gandhi never gave in to those oppressing him, and had a fierce belief that nonviolent action is a powerful force, which it is, as evidenced by the change he effected through his work. He was not a pacifist, but his philosophy was to never be violent. He said, "An army that passes over the corpse of innocent men and women would not be able to repeat the experiment". On the other hand, if you respond violently to an oppressor, you are handing them their greatest weapon- justification for labeling you as wrong. Nonviolent, direct action against an oppressive regime involves disobeying the oppressor in a concrete way (i.e., disobeying an unjust law), and being willing to suffer the consequences in a way that appeals to the human inside the oppressor. Everyone, even the cruelest people have peace inside them, but it's buried by ideas of right and wrong, good and evil. That is exactly what allows them, and drives them, to be violent. They feel they must right the wrong that their victim represents. But if you open yourself to the oppressor's punishment and receive it without violence in return, the oppressor can only hurt you for so long before it becomes unbearable for them. For humans cannot hurt other humans, they can only hurt ideas, and that is what all violent people are trying to do.
I'm sorry you didn't mention Jean Jaurès. He is interesting not only because of his work to promote peace but for his sad vision of the mechanization of war that was to come. But thanks for adding this to your discussion of history which does sometimes appear to be nothing but a litany of violence.
It should be noted that non-violent protest only works when those who oppress you have a conscience, or are answerable to those who do. It hasn't (and doesn't) work in countries like the Soviet Union and China, where those in power have no qualms about killing you since they are not answerable to the people. It's important to note that the British, though an empire, were also a democracy. In the modern post-WW2 age, if they were known for killing nonviolent demonstrators, even in the colonies, they would be voted out almost immediately. Whereas in places like the former Soviet Bloc and Tibet, nonviolent protest only appeals to those looking in from the outside. A government that is not answerable to the general public, and thus the general conscience, will not be swayed by anything but massive uprising.
So how the Polish solidarity movement accomplished their goals, then? Poland was in the Soviet block. The civil resistance was nonviolent. The goverment in response declared martial law and an arrest sprea. In the end, when 1/3 of the working population stopped working even a communistic regime is forced to negotiate. I am suprised that John didn't mention it. There was even a Nobel Peace Prize for the leader of the movement.
VaeSapiens The Soviet Union was internally collapsing at the time, not to mention Gorbachev was significantly more conscientious than his predecessors. Had the movement happened when the Soviets were powerful and under someone more autocratic, you bet they would have put it down violently before it got too big, just as they had the Hungarians, Czechs, and Romanians before.
Joseph Nez I don't think you understand the difference between "putting down a rebellion" and "genocide". China doesn't want to kill all Tibetans, they want loyal, economically productive subjects. And comparing Tibetans with Native Americans hundreds of years ago really shows how historically illiterate you are.
Joseph Nez First off, I'm am a tibetan. I am fortunate enough to not have existed in a generation where the invasion took place, however my father and his father weren't quite so lucky. I've heard several horror stories passed down from word of mouth so, to cite my source would be from second hand information if you believe me. Without even going into what happened before, looking into what is currently happening in the country it's hard to say they have a conscience.
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Bro Leo Tolstoy said Indians should try non violence approach which is mentioned in their own (Indian) philosphy/religion... same with Thoreau who had read Bhagavad Gita which somewhat influenced him to write civil disobedience...
I worry that the success of non-violence relies too heavily on the sympathies of others. If the oppressors and world at large don't value the lives of the protesters, their argument falls on deaf ears.
I am so glad to see that you included Bayard Rustin in this episode. For all of the work that he did, he is so often skipped over in history books because of his sexual orientation.
The greatest friend to non-violence has been communication and media. People can ignore scores of people being wiped out when it is text on a page but show them a video of the police unleashing dogs on unarmed protesters and you might spark their morality.
Guernica wasn't bombed by the Nationals but by its allies, the German air force's Condor Legion and the Italian Aviazione Legionaria. And the rest of the world just sat there and watched. Except for the USSR.
***** Some people say that since the Republican side was an amalgam of communists, anarchists and actual republicans had they won the war they would've turned against each other. It actually started to happen in may 1937.
nope, nelson mandela was an extremely violent and dangerous marxist/communist terrorist. his group conducted several bombings that killed and injured a lot of civilians (e.g. a bomb in a shopping mal around christmas), torture was considered "routine" and executions where common. funny how people demonstrated to get him out of jail never really bothered to find out why he was placed there in the first place.
Døde Brø So what should the native Africans have done, accepted that they were second class citizens IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY and not fight back? If wanting ones people to be equal makes them communist/Marxist then I hope that communists someday rule the world
seemslegit m8 dude, what you say is bullshit from the start to the end... no matter for what you are fighting, killing civilians is never okay. but nice to know that you apparently think so, i am sure the people around you really value that. i mean, what is better than bombing a bunch of children while they are having their lunch, right? and yeah, communism should rule the world! at least then most of us would be equal in the fact that we are all dead, including the children. i mean, *FAR* more than 100 million deaths are attributable to communist leaders in the last 80 years, that is more deaths than any other political movement ever produced before. you know, you probably should rethink your values.. have a nice day, please try not to kill anybody on a whim.
***** Well... no. Peace is good for business as it provides stability and allows a strong economy to take root. War often results in destruction, blockade, and debt, which obviously isn't good for said nations economy. Think of what the second world war did for western europe-it was the largest contribution to the collapse of their empires because running them was too expensive for their ruined economies. It also severely hampered the USSRs economic growth-it lost much of its infrastructure and manpower. There are some examples of war being good for an economy, but they're exceptions to the rule, rather than the rule itself.
***** Ironic that a person called Thatcher is trying to dictate whats best for industry. Back to the point at hand... war, in general, is expensive and by its nature destructive. Theres a reason why Europe was settling into a period of stability and relative peace (before Napoleon messed it all up). Peace meant free trade, less financial risk and a more stable industrial base. The strongest economy the world has ever seen-Britain in the mid nineteenth century-was founded off relative peace. On the other hand, look at Europe after the first and second world wars-it was a ruin. America benefited largely because it had the Atlantic/pacific ocean between it and the fighting, so it was saved most of the destruction. It also had relatively fewer casualties when compared to the soviet union, china, Japan, Germany etc. Even then, one of the main reasons why America succeeded economically after world war two was because practically all competitor economies has been ground down by war.
"No nation has ever beneffited from prolonged warfare" -Sun Tzu's the Art of War We'll see how you feel about economic growth when your industries, houses and families have been shelled beyond recognition you ignorant sociopaths.
I never knew there was such a direct link between Ghandi and the American Civil rights movement. Thanks Crash Course for highlighting the great things that have been accomplished in the 20th century though noble means. I hope world remembers these lessons and replicates them as it tackles it's current and future problems.
is it just me, or was the audio pretty quiet on this one?
definitely quieter
1:16 RIP headphone users
It is. I thought my headphones were broken at first.
Most annoying thing on youtube tbh.... really silent video's, freakishly loud intro's and advertisers that think their product will sell even better if they have advertisements with sound as loud as the video format will possibly allow.
Man this is the most usedul comment on this whole section, it assures me that is not my PC, my headphones, or my ears the ones at fault.
i feel that the way history is taught by highlighting just major wars inadvertently glorifies war and makes it seem productive when in fact, it's just that not a lot of productive peaceful events were mentioned.
Well, that's not entirely true. History has shown us that war can really help a Capitalist economy. For example, other than FDR's New Deal programs, WW2 played a large role in saving America's Capitalist economy from destruction caused by the Great Depression which began in 1929.
Tasheem Hargrove
Yes, I never said war didn't drive productivity. I was saying there are also peaceful events that drive productivity as shown in this video.
bananian You make a good point. Plus, the extreme focus on empires is another negative, I'd say.
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I like the reminder at the end that, overall, we're living in probably the most peaceful time in human history. Yes, we've got a lot of work to do. But we can't forget that we are, in fact, doing that work and succeeding.
Not really. Our government goes to the Middle East and fucks people up by the millions. Then it tries to act like it against violence by sanctioning the shit out of Russia for allegedly having troops in Ukraine. Right when we left Iraq, we fucked up and left ISIS there infect the place.
And those are legitimate criticisms. It's still the case that in almost every part of the world, your odds of dying by violence are at an all-time low. The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.
***** I haven't denied that war and violence still exist, and remain a problem. But the statistics are what they are. There are fewer wars today than at any time in history. The odds of dying by violence today are lower than at any time in history. I recommend reading 'The Better Angels of Our Nature.' There's no guarantee that violence will continue to decline, and we still have to do the work to make sure that the world becomes a more peaceful place. But violence is on the decline, and has been for a very long time.
***** No, it doesn't look like that. From the individual level to the national, violence has been on a steady decline. I'm aware of the number of current conflicts. I'm also aware that that number drops almost every year.
www.ted.com/talks/steven_pinker_on_the_myth_of_violence?language=en
I agree with you Matthew. I mean look at the past and compare how much wars were waged before compared to now. Humans are not perfect but it is really visible to see how much society became more peaceful. I can't help but say that people who are skeptical seemed to be brainwashed by news media. Like historians are interested in reading about wars, media consumers like seeing conflicts in news.
Hey there Crash Course. You know what sound Balance is? It's when I listen to John at comfortable volume and then I am not blasted against the wall with the Theme Tune.
Same here 😂
Lol
you have no idea how happy I am that you guys are talking about Bayard Rustin's contribution to non-violence and the civil rights movement. He such an important part of history and almost no one knows about him. I have literally had to tell that specific chunk of history for my friends every time MLK day rolls around. Thank you so much!
"Peace isn't the absence of conflict; it is the presence of justice" - Dr King
"Freedom is basic but respect is more" - Muhammad Ali Jinnah
I want a history-themed computer game with the thought bubble's graphical design.
any news? or is this one of the endless ignored and forgotten comments that i cannot gather up quickly, and fast enough to keep them from disappearing forever?
Albert Einstein “On the occasion of Mahatma Gandhi's 70th birthday. "Generations to come, it may well be, will scarce believe that such a man as this one ever in flesh and blood walked upon this Earth.”
Gandhi was a racist he thinks that black Africans are lesser than indians that's why his statues were removed from Africa.
He was a casteist too.
@@shreyanshpatel2917 You still will find his statues at many places in Africa....He was certainly not a racist.....Mind what you say..
No he's right. Ghandi was very racist against black people.
Lol.. Gandhi was the one who named lower cast people "Harijan= people of god"
@@You-pk6jh Gandhi was racist when he was young but he changed his views later in life and was friends with African national congress leaders.
non violence beats violence any day.
Thank you for making such an important video that outlines the tactics employed throughout the last century. Nonviolent protests are highly underrated and need to be looked to more often.
Dickens inspired Tolstoy about social injustice, who in turn inspired Gandhi about non-violence who inspired Martin Luther King Jnr about non-violence
Buddhism and Jainism brought concept of none violence on this planet
Jamie Williamson Jainism influencer gandhi not Tolstoy
Influenced *
9:48 I'm dying XD XD "Nonono, we don't like democratic reforms *_or_* Spring" killed me xD rofl
Russia(in whatever shape or form)'s most faithful ally is the winter. How would they have repelled Napoleon or Hitler if it was Spring?
Crash course is my favorite channel of RUclips. Probably because I love learning, and I can understand what he's saying and the visual effects help. I'm a pacifist and have been for awhile. I really love this video.
Part of my family ancestry is Quaker. The Quakers have a long history of non-violence, and their anti-war stance has often led to them being subjected to threats at violence on the home front. Like John Green said at the beginning of the video, “Peaceful non-violent protest is often just peaceful on the one side.”
Love the shoutout to Bayard Rustin, worked with a relative of his and set up an exhibit about Bayard in a local museum.
Bayard Rustin is such an underrated figure.
I would like to add the Irish to the list of nonviolent movements. That may sound crazy if you look at the IRA, but they were not the only people in the Irish movement. The word boycott comes from the non-violent Irish shunning of British Captain Boycott.
Its very hard not to be violent especially when people are being violent toward you . Its truly a godly characteristic
Anyone else look this over because of the violent protests in America?
I'm glad I used this as one piece to enlightened my confused thoughts.
what is your conclusion then?
@@KevinOrePflucker I want peaceful protests in America, but right now people are acting based on anger and I understand oppression has lasted for centuries and the justice system hasn't been reformed the way blacks and minorities want it. I think peaceful protests can be achieved at a greater length. However, a peaceful protest takes more time to organize and a strong leader in front of it all.
On the other side of things, a violent protest can be difficult to talk about whether it's right or wrong because everywhere around America it's executed differently. Not to mention, violent protests show faster results because politicians want to see less destruction in their cities. A violent protest and peaceful protest have been achieved at this time and I would do either even though I prefer one over the other. If anyone is to protest make sure it is executed correctly.
My words don't do justice and I implore anyone to listen to the actual activists using their words which are making change in America.
I know someone out there is gonna take this out of context and they'll say "He's part of the problem if he doesn't choose violence and he's just as bad as a cop" and I'm here to tell you I signed a petition, I plan to donate to this cause, and I plan to go out on protest. I'm sick and tired of minorities dying from a cop without fighting back. Know that MLK and Malcolm X, people of opposite strategies in protesting, coexisted at one point in time. So again, but more concisely, I don't devalue a peaceful or violent protest.
On some level, I think this is part of the reason I feel that society isn't on the verge of imminent collapse. Many of the structures and systems that we have known are very likely to go through tumultuous upheaval, but this peaceful tide of the twentieth and early twenty first centuries leaves me optimistic for the future to come. Peace is not certain, and tyranny can take many forms, returning generation after generation. But if we can learn how to peacefully resist tyranny, we can overcome it.
As a Jain, it makes me very happy that we got mentioned!
This video epitomizes why I love Crash Course so much.
I was thinking, I think it would be great if Crashcourse could make a video about Marxism/Leninism/Communism and its progression from Marx to Lenin to Stalin to Mao and so on. Keep up the great work!
DAMN YOU JOHN GREEN, DAMN YOU WITH YOUR GOOD ROMANCE NOVELS AND HISTERICALLY ACCURATE PUNS.
Is John's volume really low relative to everything else (the intro, for example) for anyone?
Thankyou for the hope amidst the genocide happening in Palestine
In this time of distraught I believe more people should watch this..
That's why the few are coming here. In the hope to change the minds of those want to continue the cycle of hate than end it
@@jackreynolds6180 that's exactly why I was here cause I had an argument with a rioter and needed to prove him the times nonviolence solved cases but all he could say was despite the "nonviolence" statement there was still violence n a lot of deaths n completely missed the point.... Smh they just never learn.
@@wilsonson_of_will2041 by rioting they are giving the opposition more of a reason to hate them and swaying others to side with the opposition. Even the family of George and close friends don't support the riots and the lootings. This fight for freedom won't be won with violence it will be won with starving of support and currently the rioters are doing that exact thing but to themselves
@@jackreynolds6180 hopefully they will eventually get this and we can start putting effort towards a fight that will really right the wrongs n bring the much needed justice.
@@wilsonson_of_will2041 agreed the sacrifice for this to happen will be that the protesters will need to face injustice for the corrupt to be revealed and people to stop supporting them it's a sacrifice far better than burning down each other's lives and enraging the people and the government.
A little known fact: the title of Tolstoi's book "War and Peace" is mistranslated in many languages, including English. The original title is "Война и мир". Война means war, it is translated correctly, but the word "мир" can either mean peace or world. Now, the worlds are spelled the same, but in Tolstoi's time, the Russian word for world was spelled "миръ", which is found in the title. What I'm trying to say is that Tolstoi's book is actually called "War and world", which makes sense, because there never was a time of peace during the events described in the book. But the mistranslated title "War and Peace" has become so famous it would be silly to release a new translation with the correct title.
Biggest mistake today ..... reading the comments. I guess not even CrashCourse can get away from this cancer disease that is spreading throughout RUclips.
***** Not the first word I'd use to describe the majority of RUclips discussions.
I agree
Back in the day when the comment sections weren't filled with dumb people who wanted to hurt others:(
Yes, I do read the comments too and afterwards I think I should've known better.
The worst part is ..... it's on a video about peace.
I love how it is easier to get people in the RUclips comments section to agree that two of the most prolific advocates for peace in the 20th century had bad character traits and yet it is controversial to say that Chris Klye had bad character traits. "The Internet"
Awesome episode! Not enough attention to non-violent movements for change in political dialogue and history. Thank you!
Jose Rizal was also a non-violent resistance advocate. Could you do a part two and include a national Filipino hero? Love your work!
I would also recommend check out Baltic Way in 1989 also as a great example of non-violence demonstration.
Thank you for including Bayard Rustin. He is so UNDERRATED!
John Green you are incredible, this is what the internet was meant to be like :)
I really like your show, I myself am from Russia and this video is very relevant in our time and allows us to look into the past and build the future. Thanks you.👍
очень смешно, ты хвалишь видео чувака который только поверхностно вдается в такие темы как пражская весна и хвалишь за его усердие????
я почему то уверен что его историческая оценка заангажирована чуть более чем полностью
Is it just me, or is it funny that the one on peace is too quiet to hear? I'm reporting a technical and perceptual problem here.
+Andrew Graves you're right. The pitch of this video is too low.
Much like peace, I guess. It's heard much quitter than wars.
I thought it was just me. I'm having trouble making this one loud enough to hear.
Las madres de Plaza de Mayo are a great example of non violent movement that shaped history of Argentina.
Thank you ! Really informative and added two books to my reading list. I hope it will help us overcome nationalism.
This was an incredibly important episode and the message was efficiently delivered as usual. Thank you!
Naan violence
Lol
This is an underrated comment.
ERB
Hhahahhahahahahah
lol
"leo tolstoy who knew a little bit about war and peace"
classic
Hey John, big fan of your videos. I was wondering if for the next season for World History you could focus it around specific individual figures in history that the average person don't know about.
this is not a usual crash course world history. it's like a philosophical notes and life lessons.
Europeans: Let's rule the world!
Everyone else: Please no...
Europeans: Is that a yes? Okay then, if you insist.
The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.
Btw....Europeans arent the only conquerors......they just rocked the last 1000yrs
@@but_is_it_really Yes but the presence of others doesn't make the sins of Europe okay just cause they 'rocked the last 1000yrs'. The thing about conquering is that it's inherently bad and causes suffering to all subjected to it
@ You
Dumbasses like you should take basic lessons in moral philosophy. What a shame ...
I adore the entirety of CCWH but this is the best episode so far.
this needs more views
Blank Space needs more views
John is correct we don't often study the history of nonviolent movements and in the 20th century it is one of the biggest influence in the world. Sure humanity is not perfect but after watching the video, my faith in humanity is restored :)
In New Zealand we had some non violent protests in the 1880's. At Parihaka the Maori people protested against British sovereignty and them taking the land from the native people.
Once again, you saved me a detention for a last-minute essay. Thank you so much!
Hey Crash Course! Tolstoy actually wrote a letter to a Hindu to Tarak Nath Das, not Gandhi. However, Gandhi did translate it and publish it in his language. Later, Tolstoy and Gandhi did write letters back and fourth. Maybe you can add a note to the video to clarify the mistake. Thanks!
Your videos are great. thanks for making and posting them. I am impressed and confused at how prolific you are with these, especially since the are so densely packed with info. you must work all week on them!!!
you should study the Moriori culture of the Chatham Islands, smaller in population and extremely isolated since 1500, the Moriori practiced a code of non-violence and passive resistance, unfortunately this spelled their downfall due to the Taranaki Maori invasion in 1832
This was a very nice one- I knew most of it from classes, but the extra insight was definitely appreciated.
On a technical note, is it me or is John's voice (and Hank's for the science courses) frequently really low in the sound mix? The music is usually a good level but the vocal track is very quiet.
Being real, these are my second favorite way to learn history facts, besides my history teacher, who's actually pretty chill.
I hate you
I am not being mean because I don't really like history
Was there no open letter?
Every great leader has flaws much like every human being. The difference is that were willing to give their lives for peace in spite of their flaws unlike many people who criticize them afar.
We want crash course on prehistory!! :D
I mean there is not exactly a lot to talk about in that subject.
This channel is awesome. A 14(ish) minute to learn some new fun information. Thank you Subbable or however you spell it.
"Peaceful, non-violent protests are often just peaceful on one side."
And the rest of the time, they're peaceful on about half of one side.
deliberatly giving wrong directions to tanks is one of the coolest examples of civil disobedience that I've ever heard of. although of course ruling without tanks might just be a tat bit cooler.
*June 2020 Intensifies*
Giving wrong directions to soldiers as a form of protest is one of the best types of protest I think I've ever heard of.
Hey there can you make a video on The Troubles? You know, the conflict between Ireland and Northern Ireland. Thanks.
In ten years, the crash course episode on the Hong Kong 🇭🇰 protests is gonna be fire. Please don’t leave out the Winnie the Pooh imagery.
I look forward to when humans are peaceful to animals :)
That won't happen until animals stop being delicious.
And when that happens, most of the world's economy would burn. No expensive and fancy meat? Now you have starving businessmen.
Meat is murder. Tasty, tasty murder...
The Ninjanomacom's Dojo I bet the people in Africa whose livelihood comes from raising beef cattle and hunting would love to see such a policy. Starvation of humans is a-okay as long as the animals don't suffer.
Goabnb94 Yeah, humans are animals, but that's not important. What's important is that seeing animals as more important than humans is very silly. Just see them as equals, it's not so hard to do. Sure, our species commits a lot of atrocities and we are over-populated, but we do have our good sides too. Eating meat is something that shouldn't be ridiculed for the main reason that other animals eat other animals too. We are omnivores. You could say we were designed to eat only fruit and plants, but there is also proof that we were designed to eat meat. I mean even out enzymes and guts were designed for meat....I'm not saying we should slaughter chickens and pigs via smashing there heads and slowly letting blood drip from their necks, I'm saying that 1. Eating meat is no bad thing 2. We shouldn't think ourselves as less than other animals, because frankly, we're not. We are intelligent, universe understanding and self-conscious beings. Talk shit about humans who waste space, but not about the whole human species. Heck, one day we'll leave planet Earth one day anyway (not saying we shouldn't care about Earth though). So look at the big picture, not that small one over there.
Just a thing on video production: John's voice seems to be way under the average sound volume here, the music of the intro and of thought bubble are way louder than his voice, and on average, I needed to set my speakers louder than compare to other videos, in order to listen what he was saying. Pleaseee :)
PS: I love this channel!
stan muller Hey, a small comment: John's audio was a bit quiet compared to the music. Maybe it's just me, but could you recheck please?
Wasn't just you!
So what?
Karl Karlos So it's difficult to hear him. So if you turn it up loud enough to hear John then you get deafened by the music. Why so inexplicably dismissive?!
The mix was a little messed. So what?
Karl Karlos ...I just gave you two perfectly valid reasons...
Seriously CC: Sound Balance. SOUND BALANCE! I should not have to turn my volume up to hear John and then get my ears blown out when the intro comes on. Sound Balance!!
Claim your money back... oh yay, right.
The problem with non-violent movements is that without more violent contemporary movements they aren't very effective. What they are is politically appealing to those already in power. Gandhi was appealing to the British Empire because he was a safe, unthreatening entity to negotiate with (and he also had a long history as pro-Imperialist sell out and previous recruiter for the royal army). What Gandhi was not was a threat to power. The same is true of MLK. Without more aggressive contemporaries, he's just another preacher preaching, and despite what the inneffective inactivists of the left want everyone to believe, talking about things is not doing things. Propaganda of the deed is infinitely more effective than propaganda of the word, at least insofar as effecting change.
Advocating for nonviolent, (non)resistance to empire is advocating for imperialism, and if you'll bother to notice each of your examples of nonviolent revolutionaries represent a people still under the thumb of their still current but now economic instead of political imperial betters.
Either resist oppression or don't, but at the very least don't undermine the efforts of those who do engage in direct (read: effective and meaningful) action.
hectroinfectro I don't think he ever undermined the efforts of ones who fought against the unfairness of the ones in power with aggression. He just simply try to present to us the successes of peaceful movements, even if it doesn't always succeed. Besides, he still acknowledged the fact that there have been nonviolent movements that have failed. It's not like he views these situations in a completely black-and-white manner.
Rallinale Oh, my bad. I got on my soapbox and forgot partway through that that I had started as if I were addressing John directly and finished addressing a generic, self-congratulatory inactivist.
hectroinfectro
Okay, my mistake. The way your comment was worded make it seem to me that you're talking to John Green instead of simply talking to "a generic self-congratulatory inactivist", so sorry that I misinterpret it.
You'll find that Gandhi was much more interested in action than words- a lot of people think that nonviolence is ineffectual and weak, focusing on words and pleading. The opposite is the case. Gandhi never gave in to those oppressing him, and had a fierce belief that nonviolent action is a powerful force, which it is, as evidenced by the change he effected through his work. He was not a pacifist, but his philosophy was to never be violent.
He said, "An army that passes over the corpse of innocent men and women would not be able to repeat the experiment". On the other hand, if you respond violently to an oppressor, you are handing them their greatest weapon- justification for labeling you as wrong. Nonviolent, direct action against an oppressive regime involves disobeying the oppressor in a concrete way (i.e., disobeying an unjust law), and being willing to suffer the consequences in a way that appeals to the human inside the oppressor. Everyone, even the cruelest people have peace inside them, but it's buried by ideas of right and wrong, good and evil. That is exactly what allows them, and drives them, to be violent. They feel they must right the wrong that their victim represents.
But if you open yourself to the oppressor's punishment and receive it without violence in return, the oppressor can only hurt you for so long before it becomes unbearable for them. For humans cannot hurt other humans, they can only hurt ideas, and that is what all violent people are trying to do.
hectroinfectro Nonviolence isn't left, its liberal.
non violence is one of the greatest things in the world.
Crash Course World History: Comparing People in The Past by Modern Standards Even Though We Really Shouldn't
I have an exam on this later today! Thanks for making these videos!!!
Once again breaking your promise to not shy away from complexity. These situations are never as black and white as they are portrayed.
The channel is called "Crash Course" for a reason..
Caesar Augustus Gandhi killed a lot of people knowingly when he ripped apart our country... it really is that never black and white..
I'm sorry you didn't mention Jean Jaurès. He is interesting not only because of his work to promote peace but for his sad vision of the mechanization of war that was to come.
But thanks for adding this to your discussion of history which does sometimes appear to be nothing but a litany of violence.
It should be noted that non-violent protest only works when those who oppress you have a conscience, or are answerable to those who do. It hasn't (and doesn't) work in countries like the Soviet Union and China, where those in power have no qualms about killing you since they are not answerable to the people.
It's important to note that the British, though an empire, were also a democracy. In the modern post-WW2 age, if they were known for killing nonviolent demonstrators, even in the colonies, they would be voted out almost immediately. Whereas in places like the former Soviet Bloc and Tibet, nonviolent protest only appeals to those looking in from the outside. A government that is not answerable to the general public, and thus the general conscience, will not be swayed by anything but massive uprising.
So how the Polish solidarity movement accomplished their goals, then? Poland was in the Soviet block. The civil resistance was nonviolent. The goverment in response declared martial law and an arrest sprea.
In the end, when 1/3 of the working population stopped working even a communistic regime is forced to negotiate.
I am suprised that John didn't mention it. There was even a Nobel Peace Prize for the leader of the movement.
VaeSapiens The Soviet Union was internally collapsing at the time, not to mention Gorbachev was significantly more conscientious than his predecessors. Had the movement happened when the Soviets were powerful and under someone more autocratic, you bet they would have put it down violently before it got too big, just as they had the Hungarians, Czechs, and Romanians before.
but they did kill non violent protesters. in 100s at sometimes.
jallianwala bagh
Joseph Nez I don't think you understand the difference between "putting down a rebellion" and "genocide". China doesn't want to kill all Tibetans, they want loyal, economically productive subjects.
And comparing Tibetans with Native Americans hundreds of years ago really shows how historically illiterate you are.
Joseph Nez First off, I'm am a tibetan. I am fortunate enough to not have existed in a generation where the invasion took place, however my father and his father weren't quite so lucky. I've heard several horror stories passed down from word of mouth so, to cite my source would be from second hand information if you believe me. Without even going into what happened before, looking into what is currently happening in the country it's hard to say they have a conscience.
Finally something about peace. After spending entire season on wars let's have a season just to focus on non violence
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Bro Leo Tolstoy said Indians should try non violence approach which is mentioned in their own (Indian) philosphy/religion... same with Thoreau who had read Bhagavad Gita which somewhat influenced him to write civil disobedience...
I worry that the success of non-violence relies too heavily on the sympathies of others. If the oppressors and world at large don't value the lives of the protesters, their argument falls on deaf ears.
Malala Yousfazi and Nelson Mandela. Love your channel btw.
damn i see you John Green with the drip. I see that polo bro
Greetings, we are at the History class with 8th grade. love ur videos.
Remember to turn down your volume after finishing this video
I am so glad to see that you included Bayard Rustin in this episode. For all of the work that he did, he is so often skipped over in history books because of his sexual orientation.
Did you know that the original title of War and Peace was War! What is it Good For?
having heard these words in school so often. the pronunciation is soo strange . but great and highly accurate and informative video
were there no nonviolence movements in earlier eras? I'm sure there were.
The greatest friend to non-violence has been communication and media. People can ignore scores of people being wiped out when it is text on a page but show them a video of the police unleashing dogs on unarmed protesters and you might spark their morality.
jainism was a non voilent religious movement which is over 2000 yrs old in India
Jesus was pacifist, and he even let himself get crucified.
There's a time for peace, then there's a time to kick ass and take names.
Guernica wasn't bombed by the Nationals but by its allies, the German air force's Condor Legion and the Italian Aviazione Legionaria. And the rest of the world just sat there and watched. Except for the USSR.
But it does prove that Heinkel and Dornier make some good bombers.
Andy Garcia You can bomb a town to ruins with crappy bombers, too.
Yeah, it had no military defense. But they were just practicing for WW2
Copied and pasted from Wikipedia. Wiki warriors ho!
***** Some people say that since the Republican side was an amalgam of communists, anarchists and actual republicans had they won the war they would've turned against each other. It actually started to happen in may 1937.
I’m not a strict non violent person. The world has a lot in it .
Sadly this is one of the crash course videos with less views... :(
People hate peace LOL
The 20th century was by far the bloodiest one.
The comments:
"HURR DURR GANDHI WAS SORTA RACIST, THEREFORE ALL OF HIS ACHIEVEMENTS MEAN NOTHING!"
Don't forget: "The Sound is too low"
Don't forget in every Crash Course video there is always one comment that's like "Seriously, John Green? You say X is Y even though that's stupid?"
Thank you so much. I have even watching your videos all day as I have an exam tomorrow and they have really helped me :)
was missing Nelson...
nope, nelson mandela was an extremely violent and dangerous marxist/communist terrorist.
his group conducted several bombings that killed and injured a lot of civilians (e.g. a bomb in a shopping mal around christmas), torture was considered "routine" and executions where common.
funny how people demonstrated to get him out of jail never really bothered to find out why he was placed there in the first place.
Yeah, sorry but Nelson Mandela wasn't a very "non-violent" protester. Bombing train stations and such :/
Døde Brø So what should the native Africans have done, accepted that they were second class citizens IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY and not fight back? If wanting ones people to be equal makes them communist/Marxist then I hope that communists someday rule the world
seemslegit m8
dude, what you say is bullshit from the start to the end...
no matter for what you are fighting, killing civilians is never okay. but nice to know that you apparently think so, i am sure the people around you really value that. i mean, what is better than bombing a bunch of children while they are having their lunch, right?
and yeah, communism should rule the world!
at least then most of us would be equal in the fact that we are all dead, including the children.
i mean, *FAR* more than 100 million deaths are attributable to communist leaders in the last 80 years, that is more deaths than any other political movement ever produced before.
you know, you probably should rethink your values..
have a nice day, please try not to kill anybody on a whim.
Døde Brø Look by hating Mandela you support what he was fighting against, the apartheid
I can't believe you wrote The Fault in Our Stars. Blows my mind
Why we study wars more often than peace: cause peace is boring.
***** do you have a source for this?
***** Well... no. Peace is good for business as it provides stability and allows a strong economy to take root. War often results in destruction, blockade, and debt, which obviously isn't good for said nations economy. Think of what the second world war did for western europe-it was the largest contribution to the collapse of their empires because running them was too expensive for their ruined economies. It also severely hampered the USSRs economic growth-it lost much of its infrastructure and manpower.
There are some examples of war being good for an economy, but they're exceptions to the rule, rather than the rule itself.
***** Ironic that a person called Thatcher is trying to dictate whats best for industry.
Back to the point at hand... war, in general, is expensive and by its nature destructive. Theres a reason why Europe was settling into a period of stability and relative peace (before Napoleon messed it all up). Peace meant free trade, less financial risk and a more stable industrial base. The strongest economy the world has ever seen-Britain in the mid nineteenth century-was founded off relative peace.
On the other hand, look at Europe after the first and second world wars-it was a ruin. America benefited largely because it had the Atlantic/pacific ocean between it and the fighting, so it was saved most of the destruction. It also had relatively fewer casualties when compared to the soviet union, china, Japan, Germany etc. Even then, one of the main reasons why America succeeded economically after world war two was because practically all competitor economies has been ground down by war.
Antoine Morin-Racine Typical hate for the average American.
"No nation has ever beneffited from prolonged warfare" -Sun Tzu's the Art of War
We'll see how you feel about economic growth when your industries, houses and families have been shelled beyond recognition you ignorant sociopaths.
Obviously this just scratches the surface what books would you recommended on nonviolence?
peace and war or something more recent?