Thanks for compiling this list. I've come back to it multiple times when deciding on the next shmup for the ever growing Dreamcast collection. Cheers from Texas.
Thanks Jesse. Glad you have enjoyed it. The Dc has some great shooters. I should really add Ghost Blade and Battle Crust to the list nowadays. Hope my thick Scottish accent wasn't too hard to listen too 😁
@@markhorsburgh No worries, it's a universal appreciation. It's nice to see the DC lifespan still being extended to this day. Been plowing through Gunbird 2, Castle Shikigami 2, Under Defeat, GigaWing, and Zero Gunner 2 lately. So good. 🍻Just saw JoshProd will be putting out another 2D title soon.
Galaga and Twinbee introduced me to this Great Genre of Games so I'll definitely check these games out since the Sega Dreamcast is my Favorite Console of All Time since I was 7 years old when it first came out in North America
Surely I must have watched this when you first uploaded it, but I don't see a comment. Great video. I was shocked at the treatment Gigawing 2 received, but as you say, it's your list. I think my favorite is still Mars Matrix. The replay value and the manageable mayhem that it brings just make me want to keep coming back to it. But Zero Gunner is good fun as well.
Cheers Tony. I remember you mentioning it before to me but always happy to have you watch it again. It has become my most popular video. Really want to make a few more but just lost my mojo at moment. Got a steam shooter vid 90% finished so hopefully get that knocked out soon.
markhorsburgh And here I am again. I'm finally going to knuckle down and finish off my DC shooty collection. Those games at the end might add a little variety. I don't know much about "Expendable," so I'll be having a look at that. I kind of accidentally bought Rainbow Cotton, and even though the gameplay is a bit shite, it's just so dang pretty. Hope you're well and miss seeing your videos. Take care.
Cool video I really enjoyed it. Under Defeat is G Rev though not NGDevTeam. I have just a few more games to get then I'll have every shmup on DC. Soon enough :)
futurematt5 Cheers Matt. I may have used your vids as a bit of a template but I figured since you had retired then no copyright issues could be flagged haha. The old dc has some fantastic shooters on it and most are relatively cheap compared to the top tier saturn and md ones. Currently working on a pce list and a megadrive list. But as you know, they take so long to put together. Even with my limited editing skills
First time watching this channel so did not expect that final choice, but nice one! Been playing it on Switch and it's awesome. Love the big bag of cocaine, jug of red bull and some ecstasy comment, by the way. Delivered like that's just a regular Friday night thing to do. Only on a Scottish shmup channel.
Great video - it was nice to see all the fun shooters on the Dreamcast. Zero Gunner 2 definitely deserves its place at the top, as it's a really nice game in every area. When it comes to Sturmwind, I find myself coming back to it, as I like the level and boss designs. Let's hope people make more and more shooters for the good 'ol Dreamcast.
I have quite a few DC shooters - and the arcade stick to make the most of them. I will watch your review of Ghost Blade. I've read mixed opinions on it, so it'll be interesting to hear why you were disappointed with it. Cheers!
Great video. Your collection is really amazing. Thanks also for mentioning about Psyvariar 2 not having a dedicated rotate button. I guess the PS2 one probably has it. Better to play that version then. Also was wondering if any of the vertical shmups have tate mode. Especially Ikaruga
Thanks for the comment friend. I am pretty happy with my shooter collection as a whole. I have most of the games I want now for all of the systems. I haven't played the ps2 version of so I'm not sure the difference. All of the vertical games have a tate option on the dc which is great. The only one that doesn't is Chaos field as that is meant to be played in wide-screen. Thanks a lot for watching :-)
great video Mark, very well put together also, alot of these ive played except the NGdev team games, my pick of the bunch was actually after your top 25, rainbow cotton i love that game and the series, nice descriptions on the games too, with a little bit of humour in there also, yes i noticed ;)
Haha cheers Karl. I really love the cotton series too and I am always shouting teatime and singing the theme song. Appreciate you watching it mate. It takes a shocking amount of time to edit stuff. Even basic stuff like this. It's no wonder Johnny got so fed up with it :-)
Cracking video mate , really hope you do one of these for the Saturn and PC Engine too :) , have to put my hands up and say I've put very little time into the Dream cast shooters but will be resolving that over this year
Cheers Craig. I do have plans to do a pce, saturn aswel as a ps2 and one list. But it's taken me 4 and a half years to make this vid, so don't pencil it into your diary just yet ;-) The dreamcast is definitely a top tier system for shooters and most games can be had for the 50quid range. Which is nice
Great list, definitely some excellent shooters to look out for on the Dreamcast, may start looking at getting some of them a bit later in the year, once I have gotten a few PC Engine CD-Rom games out of the way.
Thanks Tony. It was a lot of work making it but I am fairly happy with how it turned out. Really think the dreamcast is a great system for shooters. Thanks for watching as always mate
Cheers Rob. It was a surprisingly time consuming process. I don't know how shows like gamesack can do a 30min show evey week or two haha I should invest in a microphone I think tho as the volume is very low during some of it. Thanks for watching mate
Haha thanks mate. I started to make it four years ago tho so quality this good takes time :-) Bangai is ripe for a hd remake with duel sticks. What's with the 40min pick up vid mate? Don't you know I have important things to do. I am gonna have to wait and watch you in my bed tonight :-o
What a cracking video mark !!! a quality production no question, i can see that you have taken some insperation from someone that we are both subbed to :-) i agree with your top 3 aswell mate, spot on !! for me though i would have border down at no.1, but thats just me, i just prefer the way it plays compared to zero gunner 2 but both games are must haves for any dreamcast owning shmup fan !! theres a few here i still need to pick up myself, karous being at the top of my dreamcast shmup want list. Amazing video mark !!! loved it mate, so much so that it's being added to my favourites, take it easy mate, Dal
Wow that is quite a honour mate getting it in the favourites list. I really appreciate the kind words. I wouldn't say I was so much inspired by Matt but blatantly ripped him off hahaha but imitation is the highest form of flattery. I have a few plans to do a pal ps2 list, megadrive and pce hucard list before the end of the year. This vid did take a while to make but I am quite pleased with it. I would love it if people could visit my channel and be inspired to pick up and play many shooters. Since it seems to be quite a niche genre that we love. Thanks so much again for all the support Dal.
Fantastic video Mark! I love giga wing, first proper shooter I played on the DC with the DC arcade stick :-) Karous looks interesting though, never heard of it before. Put it on my watch list :-) I will get zero gunner 2 one day, looks sooo much fun! Great stuff pal!
Cheers Russ. All of these games worth a play. That's the beauty of the dc in that all these games would get at least an 8.5 out of 10. Well apart from dux :-) Good luck with zero gunner. One day my friend
Nice video broo! My top five 1)ikaruga 2)border down 3)under defender 4)zero gunner 2 5) gunbird!! Ikaruga is the best shupm for ever! Is the cult game brooo!! Remember ok!
Y'know, I recently picked up a Dreamcast and a craving for shmups. Every time I end up looking for games to add into my cart I always reference this video. I still can't stop coming back to this. Very nice ordering, too. Though I wonder, now that some new shooters came out after this list's release, what are your opinions on Ghost Blade, Battle Crust, and/or Gun Lord if you've played them, and where would they be in this list? Btw, my number 1 is tied between Mars Matrix and Border Down. Great designs with equally satisfying scoring systems.
Cheers for the comment danny. I hope the vid can be something that people can go back to time and time again for future reference. I like what you and the guys are doing with your channel too mate Good to see you haven't decided to pack it in. Going to sit down and watch your podcast vid later tonight
I like it when people put time into videos for the Dreamcast, as I think it needs more recognition because I honestly think if Sega didn't mess up so badly with it, it could have given the PS2 a run for its money :) Look forward to seeing other videos like this from you!
anyoldusername. Got around 140 to get rid of mate Will try and get a list together soon. Got a few of the more expensive ones on ebay at the mo like cannon spike and skies
Personally I agree Border down and Under Defeat are better than Ikaruga, which is a good game,but I would have had Psyvariar 2; the will to fabricate much higher up the list (3 or 4 at least!), although it does take a bit of time to learn the mechanics.
I would personally start with Gunbird 2 friend. It has many difficulty options and has a simple scoring system. It is also still one of cheapest games on this list. Thanks for watching
Great list man. I've been watching this a lot to get inspiration for developing a shmup. I like the diversity here with all these shmups from the bare bones basic and the visually stunning traditional bullet hells.
Put a helicopter game above Ikaruga... The whole point of it is to play those early levels until you master them and don't get hit. They put an easy mode on the game cube port i believe.
Cheers Raz. Gigawing is fantastic Imo and really fast paced. If I'm honest I wanted bangai o a little higher but I couldn't be arsed to re edit all the video haha But to be fair, if all these games had a score out of ten. Then bangai would still be a 9 and all the rest would get a 9 too. So there all so great, it was hard separating them.
Cheers Shaun. Yeah last hope is quite poor. When you compare it to other shooters with similar play styles like pulstar. It's like night and day. Hoping to do a ps2 pal list next as I just need dragon blaze to finish that collection. Also I would love to do a ps1 and pce list.
markhorsburgh PS2 Pal list will be good, I've not got them all as there's 3 or 4 by Phoenix Games that I've avoided;) Will be great to hear you honest opinions on the likes of Ocean Commander and Shadow of Ganymede:)
Great video man! RUclipsrs either talk about a game, play a game, or show you that they own the game, not all 3!! Also, we have similar taste. Zero Gunner 2 and under defeat are both fantastic, and better than Ikaruga imo! I also love giga wing.
Thanks mate. Unfortunately most of the shooters are expensive compared to other dc games. However in the grand scale of shooters, they are quite cheap compared to many other systems. Appreciate you watching :-)
I suppose the title is a little misleading as these are all the shooting games available for the dreamcast. So they are ranked from worst to best. So the bad games are going to be featured. However it's only really last hope and gigawing 2 that are below par compared to the rest. Thanks for watching
Believe it or not, only one other person has mentioned it. I did mean to say Grev. By the time had said the rest I was getting a bit tongue tied :-D Thanks for watching and commenting mate. I have also done a Neo geo and Saturn vid. Hoping to do a Master system and Pc engine after xmas
+markhorsburgh Awesome. subscribed. I'm gonna gave to check them out. Don't forget to check out Mushihimesama that was just released for Steam this past November. I haven't got it myself yet but I hear there are some bugs they are still trying to work out but looks awesome. I have the ps2 version of that game myself.
Nice video, but did you just say that Under Defeat is an NG DEVteam game? Zero Gunner 2 looks amazing, but I just looked prices for it and Border Down and now I want to cry...
TONYskittlezzz It is a nice looking game. You can get that plus 4 other games on a single disc for the wii. It's called the shooting collection and is very cheap. Well worth it mate
TONYskittlezzz There is a way to connect to a hd tv. Get a "DC VGA BOX" from eBay and "tendak VGA to HDMI cable adapter". You can get them from eBay or amazon. just plug 'em together with an HDMI cable and you are set for VGA quality dramcast gaming! It's what I use and it works.
Thanks for commenting but I think you have me confused with Sexy old gamer.....I knew I should have chosen my channel name more carefully! Still a great vid though.
Haha sorry mate People change their names that often that its hard to keep up. Noticed you have a pc engine vid on your channel. I will check it out. Hoping to do a pce shooter vid in the future
Great video Mark - somehow I missed this last week :( I have only played the PS3 version of Under Defeat - I didn't like it although that may just be playing it HD on the PS3 - lol I didn't like original GigaWing - like Strikers 1945 it felt like a demo and levels are too short for me. I heard the second one [GigaWing2] is just as short as the first but made from polys with upgraded graphics - is it any good? Would really like both BorderDown & ZeroGunner2 as they both look fantastic and look playable... but they are both so pricey! :( , especially BorderDown, and I'll not even consider dropping £100 on any game these days regardless new or old. Actually... going off on a tangent... the other two latest gen consoles (PS4/XBone) also need to hit a sub £200 price point (with a game thrown in) in order to peak my interest in either of them - lol :-)
Cheers mate. I was pretty happy with the way it turned out but it took forever with my limited editing skills lol Zero gunner and borderdown are two great games. But I can see why you wouldn't spend big money on games nowadays. Especially with the dc since piracy is so easy. Gigawing 2 isn't the best and although it is one of the cheaper shooters, its not really worth picking up. Gunbird 2 is a much better choice. I am hoping to do a pal ps2 list, megadrive and pce list. Just finding the time. Thanks for watching mate
markhorsburgh Thanks for the response :) Ha Ha for me price has nothing to do with the DC'c piracy issue, its just such a lot of money to drop for any game - let alone possibly a second hand game. My days of spending over £100 a game - like I did for some AES games in the 90's. That crazy time has happily now long passed, but I still have some really good memories of import gaming back then though even though the AES has long gone :D Piracy on DC oh thats a whole shitstorm lol. See imo Sega failed with the DC because they should have made a better attempt at enforcing tougher anti-theft measures in the hardware, a shame because imo it was really the ease of piracy that finally killed off the DC. So, as a matter of principle (even if it was the only way to play these rarer games) I would have to pass.I don't have any access to any pirated software or flash carts & I stopped using MAME many many years ago. For me with piracy its a principle thing - regardless of the games age - its just not fair. I strongly believe piracy just devalues the original item. Like playing games on MAME they just feel somehow empty - like fake and worthless, but each to their own, its just not for me - I just dont want to play 'knock-offs' :-)
The Kaylied Gamer Interesting view's mate. I agree with the piracy killing the dreamcast. Sad times indeed. I had a friend who copied ps1 games and I used to buy them for a fiver. But even back then I remember feeling pretty empty about playing them and I only ever played them for short periods of time. But I bought Tony hawk 1 for full price and I must have put 40plus hours into that. Didn't really buy any pirates after that. I started downloading dc games around 7 years ago when I bought a dc back again. But then I saw a dreamcast game for sale in a shop and the feeling of buying an original game came flooding back to me haha
markhorsburgh Yes, to me when it comes to gaming the feeling you get when playing an original disc or cart / card is unbeatable imo - and it just makes the experience feel complete. Thanks for understanding :-)
Hey bro, nice video! I have a question, you may help me.. There was a dreamcast shmups where you could upgrade your aircraft and were up to 4 players. Do you know it? I'm searching for years.. thx a lot!
These games are expensive sega is unfortunately dead (rip) so I don't see a problem getting the isos. They're floating online and you can burn dc games on cd-r without modding your dc. I do it all the time I gotta get my ikaruga fix 😁 but thunder force iv on the genz is my #1 its got a soft spot on me.
Yeah it is indeed mate. But at least it's cheaper than the aes version :-) I have never seen it sell in an auction to be honest. Only bin that are ridiculous. Are you needing it because you are going for a full set or just because you want it? Would you consider andros dunos part of the full set?
hello man, i live in Brazil and my english might not be the best but i guess you could help me find out the name of a game shoot em up. so the game not happen in the air but on the ground, its a car or war tank or other vihicle that i cant remember; i think that one of them are green and the other yellow but i was a kid so my memory can be wrong about the colors; i played with a friend that i do not have contact anymore; so do you know any shoot em up games that is not a plane or a spaceship that you control? i know thar wasn´t from SNES, but can be anyother console... i played between 1994 and 2001; it´s all i can say!
All of these games are horribly expensive, I don't want to pay over $100 dollars for a game unless I have a large nostalgia factor for the game, but I never owned a dreamcast
Shikigami is a series I haven't played in years now. I don't know why as they are all really great shooters. I think it is ripe for a new release. Even if they did a collection for the switch or that would be great. Thanks for watching. I can't believe people are still watching this 6 years after I made it
@@markhorsburgh I had the second game on PS2 as a kid and recently revisited it because of the hilariously bad English voice acting but honestly found myself getting really into the series. I would kill to have those games on Switch!! Especially since the 3rd game is really hard to get your hands on lol. I hope to see the series return with a new game or ports soon because damn they're just so fun! Also ayy it was a great video, man!! Hope to see more from you in the future
Don't Armada or Cannon Spike count? Um shouldn't Ikaruga be in there and at number 1? I think yes (then Bangai-o). Is this list just the games you actually own...?
In my eyes Armada and Cannon spike aren't traditional shoot em ups. I debated about putting Bangai o in as it doesn't force scroll you. But it just made it in. It is a great game but that is why it is further down the list. This was a list of all traditional shmups. The list would be huge if i had to include all rail shooters too. Also I think Ikaruga is over rated. It is still a great game like i said but doesn't have the pick up and play fun factor of Zero gunner2 IMO.
Oh your just being fancy to miss that out. It's the only 'traditional' shoot-em-up I can be bothered with on the DC. I find the genre so starved of ideas, the red and blue system blew my mind when I saw it for the first time even though it turns out that's not unique to this game, I think Ikaruga has the best presentation on the system.
Ikaruga = definitely most overrate shmup in history of mankind. Zero Gunner 2 comes a very close second (I have played arcade, DC, and own the switch version, with Ikaruga I own GC and switch versions, have played DC as well).
@@gameplayfirst-ger perhaps you can't read? I played the arcade AND dreamcast version but i SOLD the dreamcast version cause they were going for big dollars. I have played the arcade one on mame, not a real arcade.. but dreamcast was on a real dreamcast. My dreamcast. I re bought the switch one cause i thought after 10 years i should try it again to see if i liked it.. i don't.. even on the hardest difficulty i completed it 3rd play through, and the crosshair turning mechanics are terrible. I would love to know what is so wrong with the switch version? Can anyone actually quantify that? The controls are the same as the arcade one on mame, and there is no slowdown or any issues.. Is it the lack of extra features? The core game is the same. It was 10 australian dollars, not over 200 like what I got for the dreamcast. Grow up and don't attack someone personally cause you disagree with them. I was giving my opinion on a game, not on anyone personally.. but I will now.. you are a major tool.
Can anyone help, I'm trying to find the name of an old SHMUP where all the bosses were mechanized fish. I played it on my cousin's dreamcast, but the title was in japanese.
That would be Darius mate. The series has loads of games. But the most popular for Darius Gaiden. It unfortunately never came out for the dreamcast but for the PlayStation. 👍
Nop, psyvariar 2 the will to fabricate should have been much further up, and ikaruga dosn't stand up to the hype, it can get unfarely frustrating and even boring to play.ikaruga. Under Defeat is very good though! Wouldn't have picked the same No 1game. No REZ, are you one of those "RES isn't a SHMUP" people then?
Nice to hear your thoughts. Also nice to see people are still watching this video 7 years later. I agree Ikuraga is overrated nowadays. I still stand by my choice of Zero gunner 2. Great game and one I still play to this day. I never really gelled with the Psyvariar games. I liked the grazing mechanic but I felt the levels didn't really have the wow factor for me. I don't count Rez a shmup. Same as Afterburner and Space Harrier. I think they are enough games to enjoy in that genre without including them. Rez is a great game and the best version is the one you get for VR. Truly a surreal experience
The fact you put Bangai-O at 17 means nothing else you say matters.. Sorry. (and no, I did not downvote cause I am not a nasty bitch, but just giving you my honest opinion).
1. Zero Gunner 2
2. Border Down
3. Under Defeat
4. Ikaruga
5. Gigawing
6. Shikigami No
Shiro 2
7. Gunbird 2
8. Mars Matrix
9. Triggerheart
Exelica
10. Neo XYX
11. Psyvariar 2
12. Fast Striker
13. Sturmwind
14. Karous
15. Chaos Field
16. Twinkle Star
Sprites
17. Bangai-O
18. Redux Dark
Matters
19. Trizeal
20. Radirgy
21. Last Hope Pink
Bullets
22. Last Hope
23. Gigawing 2
24. Dux 1.5
25. Dux
Thanks for compiling this list. I've come back to it multiple times when deciding on the next shmup for the ever growing Dreamcast collection. Cheers from Texas.
Thanks Jesse. Glad you have enjoyed it. The Dc has some great shooters. I should really add Ghost Blade and Battle Crust to the list nowadays.
Hope my thick Scottish accent wasn't too hard to listen too 😁
@@markhorsburgh No worries, it's a universal appreciation. It's nice to see the DC lifespan still being extended to this day. Been plowing through Gunbird 2, Castle Shikigami 2, Under Defeat, GigaWing, and Zero Gunner 2 lately. So good. 🍻Just saw JoshProd will be putting out another 2D title soon.
"the main boss has two distinctive features " - freeze frame at 8:49 - yup, got it ^_________^
Awesome list. I love the Dreamcast. Currently backing up my games to play via an emulator to preserve the console and disc from wear & tear.
Of all of these I had only heard of Ikaruga. Will definitely check some of the out! Nice video
Galaga and Twinbee introduced me to this Great Genre of Games so I'll definitely check these games out since the Sega Dreamcast is my Favorite Console of All Time since I was 7 years old when it first came out in North America
Surely I must have watched this when you first uploaded it, but I don't see a comment. Great video. I was shocked at the treatment Gigawing 2 received, but as you say, it's your list. I think my favorite is still Mars Matrix. The replay value and the manageable mayhem that it brings just make me want to keep coming back to it. But Zero Gunner is good fun as well.
Cheers Tony. I remember you mentioning it before to me but always happy to have you watch it again.
It has become my most popular video.
Really want to make a few more but just lost my mojo at moment.
Got a steam shooter vid 90% finished so hopefully get that knocked out soon.
+markhorsburgh I have a feeling I know which Steam shooter is your favorite. ; )
markhorsburgh And here I am again. I'm finally going to knuckle down and finish off my DC shooty collection. Those games at the end might add a little variety. I don't know much about "Expendable," so I'll be having a look at that. I kind of accidentally bought Rainbow Cotton, and even though the gameplay is a bit shite, it's just so dang pretty. Hope you're well and miss seeing your videos. Take care.
Cool video I really enjoyed it. Under Defeat is G Rev though not NGDevTeam. I have just a few more games to get then I'll have every shmup on DC. Soon enough :)
G:Rev (Under Defeat, Border Down) and NG Dev (Last Hope, Fast Striker)
And all great games 😁. I can't believe people are still watching this video all these years later. Thanks
Fantastic video brother, great reviews and liked the feature at the end. I'd almost forgotten about Rez. My favourite on rails shooter.
futurematt5 Cheers Matt. I may have used your vids as a bit of a template but I figured since you had retired then no copyright issues could be flagged haha.
The old dc has some fantastic shooters on it and most are relatively cheap compared to the top tier saturn and md ones.
Currently working on a pce list and a megadrive list. But as you know, they take so long to put together. Even with my limited editing skills
Really great video Mark. I hope you do more like this, and maybe treat us to an HD version of it one day :)
Great video Mark , Zero Gunner has to be one of my favourites along with Rainbow Cotton ....
Added to my favorites videos, thank you.
First time watching this channel so did not expect that final choice, but nice one! Been playing it on Switch and it's awesome. Love the big bag of cocaine, jug of red bull and some ecstasy comment, by the way. Delivered like that's just a regular Friday night thing to do. Only on a Scottish shmup channel.
Great video - it was nice to see all the fun shooters on the Dreamcast. Zero Gunner 2 definitely deserves its place at the top, as it's a really nice game in every area. When it comes to Sturmwind, I find myself coming back to it, as I like the level and boss designs. Let's hope people make more and more shooters for the good 'ol Dreamcast.
I have quite a few DC shooters - and the arcade stick to make the most of them. I will watch your review of Ghost Blade. I've read mixed opinions on it, so it'll be interesting to hear why you were disappointed with it. Cheers!
Let's be honest: Last hope is R-Type in disguise !
Amazing graphisms for an old console ! Oo
Amazing! I'm definitely gettin a bunch of these. Back in the old days I used to love gigawing 2. Playing it at this very moment on my Android.
Great video. Your collection is really amazing. Thanks also for mentioning about Psyvariar 2 not having a dedicated rotate button. I guess the PS2 one probably has it. Better to play that version then. Also was wondering if any of the vertical shmups have tate mode. Especially Ikaruga
Thanks for the comment friend.
I am pretty happy with my shooter collection as a whole. I have most of the games I want now for all of the systems.
I haven't played the ps2 version of so I'm not sure the difference.
All of the vertical games have a tate option on the dc which is great. The only one that doesn't is Chaos field as that is meant to be played in wide-screen.
Thanks a lot for watching :-)
Thanks a ton!
Played my first shoot em up on Sega Saturn it was my first one and I haven’t found better yet….. “Batsugun”!!!
Definitely one of the best. As long as you pick ship C 😁
@@markhorsburgh I’m downloading cough cough purchasing the PS2 shoot em ups as we speak
Great list
awesome video! here's to some new shmup action for the DC in 2017!
great video Mark, very well put together also, alot of these ive played except the NGdev team games, my pick of the bunch was actually after your top 25, rainbow cotton i love that game and the series, nice descriptions on the games too, with a little bit of humour in there also, yes i noticed ;)
Haha cheers Karl. I really love the cotton series too and I am always shouting teatime and singing the theme song.
Appreciate you watching it mate. It takes a shocking amount of time to edit stuff. Even basic stuff like this. It's no wonder Johnny got so fed up with it :-)
Cracking video mate , really hope you do one of these for the Saturn and PC Engine too :) , have to put my hands up and say I've put very little time into the Dream cast shooters but will be resolving that over this year
Cheers Craig. I do have plans to do a pce, saturn aswel as a ps2 and one list.
But it's taken me 4 and a half years to make this vid, so don't pencil it into your diary just yet ;-)
The dreamcast is definitely a top tier system for shooters and most games can be had for the 50quid range. Which is nice
Great list, definitely some excellent shooters to look out for on the Dreamcast, may start looking at getting some of them a bit later in the year, once I have gotten a few PC Engine CD-Rom games out of the way.
Thanks Tony. It was a lot of work making it but I am fairly happy with how it turned out.
Really think the dreamcast is a great system for shooters.
Thanks for watching as always mate
Great video. Karous does look stunning too. Will have to track that one down.
Cheers Colin
It's quite an expensive game at 55quid but well worth it.
thought ikarga would be #1. I never tried #3 #2 or #1. I guess I am missing out and need to try these.
Excellent video Mark. Well put together mate.
Cheers Rob. It was a surprisingly time consuming process. I don't know how shows like gamesack can do a 30min show evey week or two haha
I should invest in a microphone I think tho as the volume is very low during some of it.
Thanks for watching mate
OH GREAT! Now I want a Dreamcast too...
TheColonel A worthwhile purchase indeed friend. Probably essential after buying a Pc Engine 👍
Good video, production standards excellent considering you did it mate ;-)
Can't get used to Bangi-o, crying out for dual analogue sticks.
Haha thanks mate. I started to make it four years ago tho so quality this good takes time :-)
Bangai is ripe for a hd remake with duel sticks.
What's with the 40min pick up vid mate? Don't you know I have important things to do. I am gonna have to wait and watch you in my bed tonight :-o
What a cracking video mark !!! a quality production no question, i can see that you have taken some insperation from someone that we are both subbed to :-) i agree with your top 3 aswell mate, spot on !! for me though i would have border down at no.1, but thats just me, i just prefer the way it plays compared to zero gunner 2 but both games are must haves for any dreamcast owning shmup fan !! theres a few here i still need to pick up myself, karous being at the top of my dreamcast shmup want list.
Amazing video mark !!! loved it mate, so much so that it's being added to my favourites, take it easy mate, Dal
Wow that is quite a honour mate getting it in the favourites list. I really appreciate the kind words.
I wouldn't say I was so much inspired by Matt but blatantly ripped him off hahaha but imitation is the highest form of flattery.
I have a few plans to do a pal ps2 list, megadrive and pce hucard list before the end of the year. This vid did take a while to make but I am quite pleased with it.
I would love it if people could visit my channel and be inspired to pick up and play many shooters. Since it seems to be quite a niche genre that we love.
Thanks so much again for all the support Dal.
Fantastic video Mark! I love giga wing, first proper shooter I played on the DC with the DC arcade stick :-)
Karous looks interesting though, never heard of it before. Put it on my watch list :-)
I will get zero gunner 2 one day, looks sooo much fun!
Great stuff pal!
Cheers Russ.
All of these games worth a play. That's the beauty of the dc in that all these games would get at least an 8.5 out of 10. Well apart from dux :-)
Good luck with zero gunner. One day my friend
Man I love SHMUPS!
I agree with your top 3 choices... just in a slightly different order
Your right about that zero Gunner 2
I am just discovering the Dreamcast although my only chance of trying the games will be via emulator. Thank you.
Nice video broo! My top five 1)ikaruga 2)border down 3)under defender 4)zero gunner 2 5) gunbird!! Ikaruga is the best shupm for ever! Is the cult game brooo!! Remember ok!
Y'know, I recently picked up a Dreamcast and a craving for shmups. Every time I end up looking for games to add into my cart I always reference this video.
I still can't stop coming back to this. Very nice ordering, too.
Though I wonder, now that some new shooters came out after this list's release, what are your opinions on Ghost Blade, Battle Crust, and/or Gun Lord if you've played them, and where would they be in this list?
Btw, my number 1 is tied between Mars Matrix and Border Down. Great designs with equally satisfying scoring systems.
Great list, thank you!
Great video! Zero Gunner 2 is my favorite as well, followed by Ikaruga and Under Defeat. How are you capturing the Dreamcast footage?
Nice List Bro ... Thank you for sharing
learnt about a lot of games here Mark. Very well done mate. Loved it ! :-)
Cheers for the comment danny.
I hope the vid can be something that people can go back to time and time again for future reference.
I like what you and the guys are doing with your channel too mate
Good to see you haven't decided to pack it in. Going to sit down and watch your podcast vid later tonight
Yeah and I'm sure it will be mate :-) Thanks for the words of encouragement mate we really do appreciate it ! xxxx
I like it when people put time into videos for the Dreamcast, as I think it needs more recognition because I honestly think if Sega didn't mess up so badly with it, it could have given the PS2 a run for its money :)
Look forward to seeing other videos like this from you!
Cheers pat. Any vid with the old dc is a quality vid. I would love to do more vids like this. Especially before I sell all my collection.
If your getting rid of PAL titles, in box me Mark :)
anyoldusername. Got around 140 to get rid of mate
Will try and get a list together soon.
Got a few of the more expensive ones on ebay at the mo like cannon spike and skies
Both of which I need lol
Yeah let me know when you sort a list
Personally I agree Border down and Under Defeat are better than Ikaruga, which is a good game,but I would have had Psyvariar 2; the will to fabricate much higher up the list (3 or 4 at least!), although it does take a bit of time to learn the mechanics.
That is a damn solid list. Under Defeat is my #1:D
Mmmm. So if I want to start with something easy maybe it’s radigiry
Good vid, very useful
I would personally start with Gunbird 2 friend. It has many difficulty options and has a simple scoring system. It is also still one of cheapest games on this list.
Thanks for watching
@@markhorsburgh thanks
Zero Gunner 2 is the greatest shmup ever made. I like it even more than my first love Thunderforce 3.
FYI a lot of these games can't be picked up on other systems, which might be the cheaper option.
Great list man. I've been watching this a lot to get inspiration for developing a shmup. I like the diversity here with all these shmups from the bare bones basic and the visually stunning traditional bullet hells.
Put a helicopter game above Ikaruga... The whole point of it is to play those early levels until you master them and don't get hit. They put an easy mode on the game cube port i believe.
Great Video mate! Makes me want to go out and buy a dreamcast!
Cheers Ian. A dreamcast should be in every collection. Just stick a big N over the sega logo and it will fit right in :-)
I love Shemups!
Bangai-o that far down!?! ;) Just picked up Gigawing and 2 other games for a 5:er, now it makes me even more happy!! ;)
Cheers Raz. Gigawing is fantastic Imo and really fast paced.
If I'm honest I wanted bangai o a little higher but I couldn't be arsed to re edit all the video haha
But to be fair, if all these games had a score out of ten. Then bangai would still be a 9 and all the rest would get a 9 too. So there all so great, it was hard separating them.
Great stuff mate, and I totally agree Dux is the only real stinker and I'm not a fan of Last Hope either:)
Cheers Shaun. Yeah last hope is quite poor. When you compare it to other shooters with similar play styles like pulstar. It's like night and day.
Hoping to do a ps2 pal list next as I just need dragon blaze to finish that collection. Also I would love to do a ps1 and pce list.
markhorsburgh PS2 Pal list will be good, I've not got them all as there's 3 or 4 by Phoenix Games that I've avoided;) Will be great to hear you honest opinions on the likes of Ocean Commander and Shadow of Ganymede:)
Great video man! RUclipsrs either talk about a game, play a game, or show you that they own the game, not all 3!!
Also, we have similar taste. Zero Gunner 2 and under defeat are both fantastic, and better than Ikaruga imo! I also love giga wing.
I love the DC and I really like shooters but for some reason I haven't a single Dreamcast shooter. Zero Gunner 2 looks gorgeous, what a great video.
Thanks mate. Unfortunately most of the shooters are expensive compared to other dc games. However in the grand scale of shooters, they are quite cheap compared to many other systems.
Appreciate you watching :-)
You say these games are boring and not so good. But they make it on your top 25. I don't think a top list should have any bad games on it
I suppose the title is a little misleading as these are all the shooting games available for the dreamcast. So they are ranked from worst to best. So the bad games are going to be featured. However it's only really last hope and gigawing 2 that are below par compared to the rest.
Thanks for watching
Not sure if anyone has said this yet but under defeat is not made by NG:DEV Team. Nice list.
Believe it or not, only one other person has mentioned it.
I did mean to say Grev. By the time had said the rest I was getting a bit tongue tied :-D
Thanks for watching and commenting mate.
I have also done a Neo geo and Saturn vid.
Hoping to do a Master system and Pc engine after xmas
+markhorsburgh Awesome. subscribed. I'm gonna gave to check them out. Don't forget to check out Mushihimesama that was just released for Steam this past November. I haven't got it myself yet but I hear there are some bugs they are still trying to work out but looks awesome. I have the ps2 version of that game myself.
Id hqve bangaiio higher not due to gameplay but because of inventive mechanics. Treasure was always pushing the boundaries of what was possible
Nice video, but did you just say that Under Defeat is an NG DEVteam game? Zero Gunner 2 looks amazing, but I just looked prices for it and Border Down and now I want to cry...
Love the review, unfortunately I can only understand American English XD
I thought I played everything but this list has stuff I'd never heard of.
Does anyone have the timestamp list on this too?
Shmups r life
damn...I'm loving that Karous one. ....whoa around 80quid.. on Amazon though :o !!!!
TONYskittlezzz It is a nice looking game.
You can get that plus 4 other games on a single disc for the wii. It's called the shooting collection and is very cheap.
Well worth it mate
I'm thinking of buying a Sega Dreamcast... seriously, but I would like to know if there's a way to connect it via HDMI :D
Thanks for the info, mate :D. By the way subscribe to my RUclips channel (TONYskittlezzz)... im subbed to yours now :D
TONYskittlezzz There is a way to connect to a hd tv. Get a "DC VGA BOX" from eBay and "tendak VGA to HDMI cable adapter". You can get them from eBay or amazon. just plug 'em together with an HDMI cable and you are set for VGA quality dramcast gaming! It's what I use and it works.
Thanks for commenting but I think you have me confused with Sexy old gamer.....I knew I should have chosen my channel name more carefully! Still a great vid though.
Haha sorry mate
People change their names that often that its hard to keep up.
Noticed you have a pc engine vid on your channel. I will check it out.
Hoping to do a pce shooter vid in the future
Great video Mark - somehow I missed this last week :(
I have only played the PS3 version of Under Defeat - I didn't like it although that may just be playing it HD on the PS3 - lol
I didn't like original GigaWing - like Strikers 1945 it felt like a demo and levels are too short for me.
I heard the second one [GigaWing2] is just as short as the first but made from polys with upgraded graphics - is it any good?
Would really like both BorderDown & ZeroGunner2 as they both look fantastic and look playable... but they are both so pricey! :( , especially BorderDown, and I'll not even consider dropping £100 on any game these days regardless new or old.
Actually... going off on a tangent... the other two latest gen consoles (PS4/XBone) also need to hit a sub £200 price point (with a game thrown in) in order to peak my interest in either of them - lol :-)
Cheers mate. I was pretty happy with the way it turned out but it took forever with my limited editing skills lol
Zero gunner and borderdown are two great games. But I can see why you wouldn't spend big money on games nowadays. Especially with the dc since piracy is so easy.
Gigawing 2 isn't the best and although it is one of the cheaper shooters, its not really worth picking up. Gunbird 2 is a much better choice.
I am hoping to do a pal ps2 list, megadrive and pce list. Just finding the time.
Thanks for watching mate
markhorsburgh Thanks for the response :)
Ha Ha for me price has nothing to do with the DC'c piracy issue, its just such a lot of money to drop for any game - let alone possibly a second hand game. My days of spending over £100 a game - like I did for some AES games in the 90's. That crazy time has happily now long passed, but I still have some really good memories of import gaming back then though even though the AES has long gone :D
Piracy on DC oh thats a whole shitstorm lol. See imo Sega failed with the DC because they should have made a better attempt at enforcing tougher anti-theft measures in the hardware, a shame because imo it was really the ease of piracy that finally killed off the DC. So, as a matter of principle (even if it was the only way to play these rarer games) I would have to pass.I don't have any access to any pirated software or flash carts & I stopped using MAME many many years ago.
For me with piracy its a principle thing - regardless of the games age - its just not fair.
I strongly believe piracy just devalues the original item. Like playing games on MAME they just feel somehow empty - like fake and worthless, but each to their own, its just not for me - I just dont want to play 'knock-offs' :-)
The Kaylied Gamer Interesting view's mate. I agree with the piracy killing the dreamcast. Sad times indeed.
I had a friend who copied ps1 games and I used to buy them for a fiver. But even back then I remember feeling pretty empty about playing them and I only ever played them for short periods of time. But I bought Tony hawk 1 for full price and I must have put 40plus hours into that. Didn't really buy any pirates after that.
I started downloading dc games around 7 years ago when I bought a dc back again. But then I saw a dreamcast game for sale in a shop and the feeling of buying an original game came flooding back to me haha
markhorsburgh Yes, to me when it comes to gaming the feeling you get when playing an original disc or cart / card is unbeatable imo - and it just makes the experience feel complete. Thanks for understanding :-)
You should do one of these of the Saturn, Top 50!
John Smith. I did a very basic top 20 saturn one but it isn't as detailed.
I also did a neo geo shooters list. Some great games on all systems
Hey bro, nice video! I have a question, you may help me.. There was a dreamcast shmups where you could upgrade your aircraft and were up to 4 players. Do you know it? I'm searching for years.. thx a lot!
Sugam Liga Insana you are thinking of Armada
These games are expensive sega is unfortunately dead (rip) so I don't see a problem getting the isos. They're floating online and you can burn dc games on cd-r without modding your dc. I do it all the time I gotta get my ikaruga fix 😁 but thunder force iv on the genz is my #1 its got a soft spot on me.
nice video
I dont know why you bothered including the first few in the list at qll as you seem quite down on them.
Last hope! That fucker is mega expensive in neo cd......but I need it
Didn't realise that was on Neo CD, will keep em' peeled for that:)
Yeah it is indeed mate. But at least it's cheaper than the aes version :-)
I have never seen it sell in an auction to be honest. Only bin that are ridiculous.
Are you needing it because you are going for a full set or just because you want it?
Would you consider andros dunos part of the full set?
I wanted to buy zero gunner 2, but its like 200 dollars, 120 some of the less costly ones. Yikes!!
hello man, i live in Brazil and my english might not be the best but i guess you could help me find out the name of a game shoot em up. so the game not happen in the air but on the ground, its a car or war tank or other vihicle that i cant remember; i think that one of them are green and the other yellow but i was a kid so my memory can be wrong about the colors; i played with a friend that i do not have contact anymore; so do you know any shoot em up games that is not a plane or a spaceship that you control? i know thar wasn´t from SNES, but can be anyother console... i played between 1994 and 2001; it´s all i can say!
is it SWIV you are thinking of it was on most consoles
Bangio was #Fire!!!!
All of these games are horribly expensive, I don't want to pay over $100 dollars for a game unless I have a large nostalgia factor for the game, but I never owned a dreamcast
Oh my god, your accent is awesome!
GlitchGoblin Thanks for watching. I was worried my accent would be to strong but people seem to manage fine with it ;)
Sounds like gamemaster presenter Dominic diamond.
Hi . ( Expendable ) - this ROM dont find in TOSEC , :)
German accent?? But anyway, great list of shmups! Can't wait to play some of these on my Switch with the Reicast emulator.
Scottish, dude.
I see Shikigami no Shiro, I click
Shikigami is a series I haven't played in years now. I don't know why as they are all really great shooters.
I think it is ripe for a new release. Even if they did a collection for the switch or that would be great.
Thanks for watching. I can't believe people are still watching this 6 years after I made it
@@markhorsburgh I had the second game on PS2 as a kid and recently revisited it because of the hilariously bad English voice acting but honestly found myself getting really into the series. I would kill to have those games on Switch!! Especially since the 3rd game is really hard to get your hands on lol. I hope to see the series return with a new game or ports soon because damn they're just so fun!
Also ayy it was a great video, man!! Hope to see more from you in the future
Don't Armada or Cannon Spike count? Um shouldn't Ikaruga be in there and at number 1? I think yes (then Bangai-o). Is this list just the games you actually own...?
In my eyes Armada and Cannon spike aren't traditional shoot em ups. I debated about putting Bangai o in as it doesn't force scroll you. But it just made it in. It is a great game but that is why it is further down the list.
This was a list of all traditional shmups. The list would be huge if i had to include all rail shooters too.
Also I think Ikaruga is over rated. It is still a great game like i said but doesn't have the pick up and play fun factor of Zero gunner2 IMO.
Oh your just being fancy to miss that out. It's the only 'traditional' shoot-em-up I can be bothered with on the DC. I find the genre so starved of ideas, the red and blue system blew my mind when I saw it for the first time even though it turns out that's not unique to this game, I think Ikaruga has the best presentation on the system.
Ikaruga = definitely most overrate shmup in history of mankind. Zero Gunner 2 comes a very close second (I have played arcade, DC, and own the switch version, with Ikaruga I own GC and switch versions, have played DC as well).
Zero Gunner 2 Minus on Switch is a subpar port. Still good, but it's much better on DC. If you think it's overrated you have a very bad taste.
@@gameplayfirst-ger perhaps you can't read? I played the arcade AND dreamcast version but i SOLD the dreamcast version cause they were going for big dollars. I have played the arcade one on mame, not a real arcade.. but dreamcast was on a real dreamcast. My dreamcast. I re bought the switch one cause i thought after 10 years i should try it again to see if i liked it.. i don't.. even on the hardest difficulty i completed it 3rd play through, and the crosshair turning mechanics are terrible. I would love to know what is so wrong with the switch version? Can anyone actually quantify that? The controls are the same as the arcade one on mame, and there is no slowdown or any issues.. Is it the lack of extra features? The core game is the same. It was 10 australian dollars, not over 200 like what I got for the dreamcast. Grow up and don't attack someone personally cause you disagree with them. I was giving my opinion on a game, not on anyone personally.. but I will now.. you are a major tool.
Just get the ROMs onto a gmunu mod system
The boo-luhts!
great video but under defeat>ikaruga!!??
I remember Bangai-O,imho the best shooter on Dreamcast.
Can anyone help, I'm trying to find the name of an old SHMUP where all the bosses were mechanized fish. I played it on my cousin's dreamcast, but the title was in japanese.
That would be Darius mate. The series has loads of games. But the most popular for Darius Gaiden. It unfortunately never came out for the dreamcast but for the PlayStation.
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@@markhorsburghDarius Gaiden Was also released on the Saturn, I own a NTSC-U CIB copy at my place. But yes, you're right, sound like that title.
zero gunner 2 YEAAAAHH
Nop, psyvariar 2 the will to fabricate should have been much further up, and ikaruga dosn't stand up to the hype, it can get unfarely frustrating and even boring to play.ikaruga. Under Defeat is very good though!
Wouldn't have picked the same No 1game.
No REZ, are you one of those "RES isn't a SHMUP" people then?
Nice to hear your thoughts. Also nice to see people are still watching this video 7 years later.
I agree Ikuraga is overrated nowadays.
I still stand by my choice of Zero gunner 2. Great game and one I still play to this day.
I never really gelled with the Psyvariar games. I liked the grazing mechanic but I felt the levels didn't really have the wow factor for me.
I don't count Rez a shmup. Same as Afterburner and Space Harrier. I think they are enough games to enjoy in that genre without including them.
Rez is a great game and the best version is the one you get for VR. Truly a surreal experience
2:43 ... “but isnt necessarily SHET either.” #sherloid
Eggarugar 😂
"When you die you play a harder version of the same level" well shit, makes perfect sense!
>he likes ikaruga
heh
Gunbird 2?
steelrain7.62API It is a good game and deserves the number 7 spot in my opinion.
I wish they would make a third
border down don't work for Reicast.
The fact you put Bangai-O at 17 means nothing else you say matters.. Sorry. (and no, I did not downvote cause I am not a nasty bitch, but just giving you my honest opinion).
...that accent! hahaha