Ludwig LB417 Black Beauty vs Tama Star Reserve Aluminum TAS1465H
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Of all metal snares, I love the Ludwig Black Beauty the most, but the Star Reserve Aluminum is really a drum I play quite often and it has been chosen over the black beauty by 2 different live sound engineers. Compared to the black beauty, its more dry, similarly aggressive attack with the sound arc hoop and a really weird dark, complex shell sound ... which is really very different from other aluminum shells. The shell is also very different from other aluminum snares: welded, hammered, very thick (3mm!), and an extremely sharp, narrow bearing edge (its not bend 45° smoothly like many other shells).
Chances are, that you know how a Black Beauty sounds, so you'll be able to understand better where to put the Tama Star Reserve Aluminum in this recording! ;)
Would need to hear more...but the Tama sounded flatter to me...Black Beauty sounded sweeter ...imo
I like the tama’s pop and brightness more.
Its the black beauty for me👌
its my favourite too! when the live sound engineer pointed to the Tama, I was nearly a little disappointed cause I wanted to play the black beauty! 🥲 The BB had triple flanged hoops back then though, I really think die cast works well for a BB (even though I most often prefer triple flanged). But I think thats also an ear vs mic thing - while die cast sounds pretty sharp and overexaggerates the attack of a rim shot for my ears, it still sounds great via the mic! 🤔
Tama ftw!
Tama star. Lovely ring to it.
I think i like the ring on the Tama
I’ll stick with the Supraphonic…
I sold my supraphonic a few weeks ago ;)
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Which did you keep..?
@@roybeckerman9253I had a Ludwig lm402 Supraphonic and a lb417 Black Beauty, but liked the BB a lot more (its my favourite snare), so the supraphonic is sold now. maybe I got your comment wrong, THE "supraphonic" for me is the bonham chrome over aluminum
Simon, I just sub'd and liked and was curious what brand of hi hat stand that is and how many legs 2, 3, ???
thx 😄✌🏻its a tricks aluminum stand with 2 legs that are completely adjustible, you can point them anywhere. its really a great stand, very flexible, very light! trickdrums.com/product/pro1v-high-hat-stand/ ♥️
@@simongrossjohann Thanks Simon!
Take two snares of the same thickness and geometry and the type of metal isn’t gonna matter. They’ll sound the same.
yea, Im still wondering if thats really true. sounds like a drum posted a video recently, making an acrolite and wood pearl sound the same, claiming the material does not matter. without rim shots I might agree with them, but with rim shots you basically hit the shell like a gong and then it really matters!
@@simongrossjohann I’m an amateur builder and I’ve been saying that about wood for years. Mahogany, birch, beech, ash….it’s all in the shell geometry, head choice, room, and player.
@@ghiblinerd6196 do you also think so for rim shots? Because when I play my 14x6.5" metals shells, there is a clear difference in many aspects and I fiddle a loooot with tunings and make them sound similar!
@@simongrossjohann I feel like rim choice of all things makes a bigger impact when it comes to rim shots and rim clicks but yes, if someone plays rim shot heavy like chad sexton I could see metal vs wood making an audible difference
@@ghiblinerd6196 I fiddled a lot with hoops in the past week, made a comparison video Ludwig Black Beauty with triple flanged vs die cast ruclips.net/video/c5gbtB7EIR0/видео.htmlsi=gtXUTXTLlfJDqygk and had a comparison Tama Star Reserve Copper with Ludwig Black Beauty, first with triple flanged hoops, now with die cast. hoops make all the difference and rimshots really show the shell material and things like hammered/smooth! ruclips.net/video/3zhb-v5rxFM/видео.htmlsi=6vjDuDtkTcSNWjYR