Hey all, sorry for the wait on this one, I haven't been able to commit much time to things recently, but I should have another ready for next week on a National Park(s) so if there's a park you'd like me to cover or anything like that then let me know. - And do let me know your thoughts on the disappearances discussed. Also, have a great weekend. Be safe all
No apology necessary, we all doing what we can & there's no need 2 explain nor apologize. I look forward to you uploading but i can also chill & wait, some days (weeks, months) r busier than others. We getting 15+ hours daylight here now Alaska, where we peak at 19+ hours n Anchorage at 1st day of Summer so it's a mad rush 4 us 2 get ready 4 fishing, gardening, getting vitamin D on our skin, build, hike, etc, too. Thank u 4 all that u do 🌞
Hey Adam, we're always happy to get new content from you! I also hope you are REALLY doing well man. Just concerned since we haven't seen you much lately. But we all have busy lives and it's totally cool and understandable, I just wanted to remind you how much we appreciate your work that you put in, knowledge of the subject at hand, calm/cool voice and professionalism especially when dealing with a story that deserves some extra thought and respect, for the families of the missing, hurt or dead... BTW, give us a sign if the reason for you not having much time for stories lately is bcuz your in Ukraine spreading freedom with a MA DEUCE (it's a rumor that i might have heard). And sorry if I blew your cover.. inquiring minds just wanna know! Thanks again dude!
@@anitaevans5361 I wish we had that much sunlight, I do not like the cold,,lol but Alaska is an awesome state and beautiful, so I think it is worth it.
Regarding Pamela: I can believe that she got away that quickly and that far. Because my granddaughter almost got away from me in a city park. I got her out of the car and the second her feet hit the sidewalk, she was up running into the open park. I slammed my car door closed, locked the car and quickly took off after her. By the time I was up the knoll into the open park, I could see my 4 year old granddaughter all the way across the open green. I started yelling, and if she had not heard me and stopped, she would have easily run a mile ahead of me, through the park and into the streets beyond. Her little legs were carrying her amazingly quickly away from me. Pamela was small enough to curl up into any snug place and keep warm -- warm places in the woods where a larger person wouldn't fit. I can believe she got the 2 miles away very quickly, even given the thickets and brush if the mood struck her. What I cannot explain or find any reason for is her not being dehydrated or showing signs of malnutrition.
Aww. Your granddaughter sounds like my baby girl. 😂😂 soon as she seees a park, shes goneee. Will run and run and run, fast + far as her little legs will take her 😂
Man it's really awesome you share the joy of a happy ending instead of nothing but tragic...truly the best disappearance channel...you're up the with Dave P. 👊💯 different I know but the research is really spot on...can't say enough.. well done...again
Who knows but our spiritual father our maker what goes on when people come up missing never found?? Thats why these mysteries are so eerie & inticing to watch. Feels so scarey when I got lost within minutes I thought i was going backwards by turning around but was only going deeper. I got panicked!! Walking faster faster. I didnt scream out for my family cause I didnt wanna ruin everyone 1st day at camp!! Or for my dad to be disappointed. I tell my kids to never be afraid of me to tell me ANYTHING. Im so glad cause that has proved to be best!! I ended up at the entrance to the camp so i knew to go straight thru to get bacl using the sun as a directional point. I never said a word to my fam. But i was SO happy to see my dad!! The forest all looks alike inside the trees. When kids are found off course far away I definately get it!! You will walk so fast when youre scared!!
That is why it is very important for people to stay on designated trails. And remember even professional hikers can be caught short if they underestimate nature.
In many instances it’s hard to tell the designated trails. Medicine Bow NP in Wyoming is a good one for example. It’s pretty easy to get off the trails there and not even knowing it.
I rarely ever hike on trails. I only use them to get to the back country where I can go off trail where no one ever goes. Been doing it since I was 14. As long as you're smart and are prepared, it's an amazing way to enjoy getting away.
@@whomonk Thats right. I know so many people in oregon who think that they’re “experienced” hikers, but never carry a map and compass. They also couldn’t tell you what a topo map is.
As to the case of the little girl who was lost for 9 days and then found healthy, is the official explanation really that she was just wandering in the woods the whole time? That defies common sense. It was freezing, raining, and sub-zero temperatures overnight. She was not dressed for that, and she had no food! Yet, she was perfectly fine? No, somebody was sheltering her. I'm glad she showed no signs of abuse, but she could not have survived 9 days alone. Maybe she blocked out the memory of what happened.
I don’t think little Pammy met with foul play, I think she met another little girl, and the parents invited her to stay with them while they were on a camping vacation. Nine days later the woods were crawling with SAR and the parents thought it best to put the little girl out and send her towards them. I do not believe she was abducted by a Peodophile why would he let her go ? Normally if police suspect this they step up the search cos the 1st 4 hours are critical after that they expect the victim is dead, I can’t see a Peedy looking after her, feeding her and toiletting her for that length of time
Not been watching your content long. As a fan of Mr. Ballen, this was recommended to me. Good stuff. Looking forward to binge-watching the rest. Subbed.
It does really sound so baffling how many of these case are of people who disappear and suddenly reappear without any real explanation like what exactly did happen to them during the period when they went missing and then they were found.
Ten years ago I had just set out for a run, it was early morning say 6am in England, it was dark but just on the verge of getting lighter. My route took me through an alley way next to a golf course, it was usually at that time very quiet although. Oddly i saw 4 people in the alley ahead smoking and shouting (not at me) I don’t think they saw me but it made me feel a bit uneasy as it’s usually so quiet, so I turned around and was going to go run another route. When I turned I heard what I can only describe as a loud metallic clapping noise. I looked up it was still relatively dark but I could see that I was in a field, and not the tarmac alley way I was previously stood in. The grass was long and wet and my running shoes were soaked. I stopped jogging and started looking around and did not recognise my surroundings at all, I was in a large open field surrounded by woodland, none of the golf course or nearby houses were visible to me, when I turned around to look back the alley or the 4 people that were that had completely gone. I panicked, it was a proper wtf moment,so decided to go back to where I was when I turned which was only a few meters away, as I was walking to the spot a shiny light appeared in front of my eyes which made me close them, when I opened i was back in the alley. It was much lighter than it was previously and the 4 people were no longer there. I decided to run home pretty fast and give the run a miss. I noticed my feet and shoes were still soaked even though it had not been raining. So it must have been from the imaginary field. When I got in my missus asked me how my run was and why it had taken so long as I was going to be late for work, over an hour and a half had past when I felt like I had been out for no longer than 15 mins. I checked my running app which tracked my runs and it turned off exactly where I turned around in the alley 6 mins into the run but never turned back on. I often think about it to this day. I understand if you don’t believe me, If I read this I wouldn’t, but I felt like I needed to share it as I’ve never mentioned it to anyone as they’d think I’m nuts.
For sure sounds like a dimensional shift. Your story is very captivating maybe the mysteries guy will make a story out of your comment. I've had unexplainable events happen in my life as well that have helped shape and mold me into the man I am today including a near-death experience in 2014 which occurred from a heroin overdose. Let's just say my experience in "The Light" as I like to call it left no doubt in my mind that life continues beyond the physical realm.
Did doctor examined her stomach? Was she hungry for 9 days? If someone took her, he/she would probably fed her. So, doctor should of found some food in her stomach. They said nothing about internal check.
The child disappearances and finding of them alive are crazy! And why the memory loss, yeh shes 5, but she knew not to eat the berries and repeated that fact once found, they're not stupid or infants.. I love that there are still mysteries to be solved, but the not knowing is super frustrating!
Dear Natilie Memory loss might be attributed to the victim being unconscious during the abduction dare I say it such as abduction by a bird of prey....
Without speaking to any particular case, I’ve observed at Grand Canyon park and other parks across the country, how little attention is paid to young children. Many are allowed to run free and climb railing and fences. Making these observations over the years, I can see how children are victims of any number of misfortunate incidents. Adults must do better when it comes to childrens safety.
Dear Catman. Trouble is people treat the wilderness like its a walk in the park... I see this all the time...what people have to be made aware of is the minute you leave the safety of your car everybody you know is being sized up by every type of predator going ( animal and human ) including the ones you can’t see such as Birds ?....
@@nicholaswilliams4336 birds are only going to eat you after you are dead though. But I can agree they look at you with their beady eye waiting for you to fall dead as they salivate from the sent you give off.
Many humans don't understand that the forest is not the same as a small nature trail in the middle of the city. One can literally hide behind a tree with out being seen. The forest is a maze that like hugging you and doesn't want to let go.
And then should one of their children go missing they always lie and make themselves sound like the best parents in the world who were paying attention but somehow their child got away from them. It’s like nope, you definitely weren’t paying attention to your own child and they were most likely missing for at least 30 minutes before you even noticed. Also, when people get defensive over these types of comments you definitely know they’re getting defensive because they know they’re crappy parents (which I’ve seen some people doing). There would be no need for defensiveness if you know you’re a good parent. Instead of changing their ways and being better parents they unfortunately just try to excuse horrible parenting. Adults need to stop acting like children can defend themselves. There’s zero excuse for being a bad parent.
@@isabellaangeline2175 I just had a family reunion at a city park and a two year old wandered off. His mom said that she thought the other kids would look after him... Without even asking them. We found him, but jeez, I just KNOW she would have blamed all the kids there for his disappearance if we hadn't found him.
It’s quite likely that David could not hear Fabiani with the wind gusts as well as the interference of the falling snow. They very likely could have been 5 feet apart and David STILL would not have heard the shouting. Given the recovery of Pamela, I was looking forward to David’s rescue as well. 😢
Asked my dad again who was an MD he says a child at that age can not survive even 30 degrees from that long. He said she HAD to have been given warmth and water. Either it was a scam from the family, a pervert picked her up then didn’t rape her but assaulted her in other ways or just looked at her and freaked and dropped her off. But that it is impossible medically for this to occur without sophisticated skills in creating a warm den of sorts and remaining DRY with water. This is impossible. Someone is lying BIG TIME. MAYBE it was a police officer?
I whole heartedly agree with you , which is why I don’t think she did. I believe she met another young girl who was on holiday with her parents and got invited to stay... when SAR caught up with her, she appeared confused, probably cos she was expecting to be told off and instead she was surrounded by lots of nice people all wanting to cuddle her... however if something bad had happened to her, if she was kept against her will I sure that when she realised that the SAR were there to help I’m sure her reaction would be what little girls do.... cry her eyes out.... have a nice day !
@@nicholaswilliams4336 interesting take!! That has to be what it is! Unless there is something we don’t understand about this world. Or she blocked the trauma out and was taken by someone who didn’t physically abuse her but maybe just took photos and touched her without causing damage noticeable in an exam. Sadly my Go to is that a man either did that or hopefully your theory is much happier!! You too!!
Personally I doubt if anything of a sexual nature took place cos child molesters don’t usually hang out in the woods, unless there’s a school nearby... and at 5 years old she might not know wrong from right, but she’d certainly know when something’s not quite right and even if later in life she wanted to block something out I’m sure that in the highly emotional moment of being rescued she’d have cried her eyes out... instead she remained calm and confused ?
It would have been an exceptional opportunity for Pamela’s parents to have her hypnotized to find the answers to her 9 day disappearance. The brain is similar to a vault that causes human nature to bury and represent memories due to trauma.
I'm convinced Pammie was abducted... possibly by the ex convict, and held her in a cabin for several days. And then when he felt law enforcement closing in on him, he let her go. You can't trust what she said afterwards. What's more likely: she eluded 450 searchers for 9 days, surviving subfreezing temperatures, OR that she was taken on day 1, and then let go on day 8, and was so traumatized, she blocked out the abduction? Even the doctor said she had no scratches or after-effects of being exposed to the elements for 9 days. Being in an offsite cabin/house for 8 of those days, would explain this part perfectly. And just because he didn't r4p3 her doesn't mean he didn't take her.
Or perhaps what took her is paranormal, there are hundreds of cases just like this, where the person is taken somewhere else and held, and it's obvious no other human was around. There are even accounts of the taken being able to see rescuers yet the rescuers can't hear the person, it is as if they are in some other realm.
High incline SAR, is a tough road to hoe. Once you get above about 2000 feet, the amount of Oxy your body has to work with becomes an issue. Doesn't sound very high does it? In November on Rainier, you also have two weather systems to worry about, on the West side. You are carrying all your gear, plus rescue gear. Your boots have to be good for snow shoes, and crampons. As you have to traverse snow fields and at least two glaciers. They sent one team (4 people) and then a relief team. Which means they expected him to be smart up there, and make the job as easy as he could for them. The equipment we had back them wasn't too bad, a bit heavy but, serviceable. No radios or GPS but, you always prepare like they aren't available, just to be on the safe, even today. Dave should have followed his partners tracks, getting his whistle out once he was socked in. Once he figured he was fucked, gone to ground, then set his hi-vis panel out. Once his partner realized he wasn't where he was supposed to be and didn't answer to the whistle, he did right. Get off the hill and get help. I think David found a crevasse. One of those things eat you, no one is finding you. You have line and beaners for a reason, they should have been linked up. After all gravity isn't just a good idea, its the law. (/rant) Excellent video, as always Adam. Thank you.
My cousin was on Mt. Rainer with his best friend and he fell into a crevasse. His best friend died and he was saved by landing in a small ledge. I think it was 18 feet down. He (I'm starting to cry) had an extremely difficult time but he got out. His friend taught him everything he needed to know and it saved him. He wrote a book called The Ledge, Jim Davidson. Then he was on Mt. Everest and the earthquake hit in 2015. I cannot remember what level. The book is in the other room. He filmed the horror in his tent actually, ( bet you can Google it, was on the news) was rescued after two days and was able to summit two years later. We followed his summit. I'm not too sure he will go again. If he was my husband...I suppose you could never ask someone not to do something like that. He had a dog called Jake the Wonder dog who just passed a couple months ago, a black Labrador who hiked everywhere with him. He wrote another book called The Next Everest. Brilliant man. I'm crying again. He was so good to my father, my father loved him dearly, his sisters son. Blessings to you.
@@chrishelmuth4065 If'n they were where I think, they should have been roped up long before. Best practice would be to link up just before the snow fields on the ascent, as they had two glaciers to cross, coming and going. That and they were two climbers short, for that climb at that time of year. Even Brad and I wouldn't do that, with modern gear but we're old climbers.
@@chrishelmuth4065 Over confidence, until they realized they screwed the pooch. You always link up. Remember gravity isn't just a good idea, its the law.
I wonder if the ex-convict took Pamella and then returned her after he realized he was a prime suspect. Then he just threatened her so she would say she was alone the entire time.
Or drugged her and no one ran a toxscreen. He said she sounded confused, my first thought was she had been roofied (or some such drug) and genuinely didn't know what happened. I agree, I think someone took her, drugged her, but the police kept looking. So they decided it was dangerous and dropped her off where she'd be found by the search teams. Dead or alive.
That headline doesn't say there were several cases in the area the girl disappeared from, it says the convict was in the area. It doesn't say anything about where the several cases the convict had been questioned about were. It is important to pay attention to punctuation.
If you think this is mysterious then you are at risk of getting lost in the wilderness. For some reason people think it’s hard or impossible to get lost in the woods. This is the mindset of the people who get lost. You should respect how dense and unpredictable the woods can be. Children can easily be taken by animals. I doubt child predators hangout in the woods waiting for kids when they can easily just go to a school or playground. We’ve seen children and adults get lost only for their bones to be found close to the search areas years later.
Thank you Adam for your indepth research of people that have gone missing. It 's just amazing how quick & simple, or like I like to say, " in the blink of an eye", people just disappear. Your narration & information are outstanding. Have a blessed week & stay safe. 🙋♀️🙏🇺🇲
During the spring in Yosemite park has life threatening moments all over. Between the bears waking up hungry, glaciers and ice melting. Not safe for babies!
Its so frustrating there are so many questions you would like to ask and cant because they are not your children surely they could remember where they stayed at night whats with the amnesia with all these cases
Sound disappears fast in the woods like in a matter of yards. You can get turned around in four square meters no worries. I work the forest it happens I've seen it felt it and sometimes done it. This is a no worries case.
Nah I think she met some nice people on a camping holiday and they invited her to stay... it’s so coincidental that she turned up after nine days unscathed
The mind has a strong natural instinct for survival. During cases of extreme traumatic experiences it's possible for the mind to subconsciously block out an experience as a safeguard to keep itself from completely shutting down. I believe the term is Dissociative amnesia. So it is possible the girl blacked out the experience then reconstructed her memory based on being put on a trail somewhere. She could have very well been taken which of course it's just supposition based off the available facts. It would be possible to try to surface those memories through hypnosis treatment but to do so could be damaging if it worked at all. Of course I am not saying this is for sure what happened. There are other cases of those which went lost in the woods, found father than they could have gone and with little to no memory of what happened. The timeframe spent lost in the wilderness suggests some kind of intervention. Dissociative amnesia seems possible but I am just making a guess at any rate. No way of knowing now anyway.
I have to think that the girl was housed somewhere and set out alone with a 50/50 chance to survive. Thank God they didn't give up. The little ones can move pretty fast sometimes.
I'm curious as to the little girl still being alive and if so can she tracked down to see if she recalls anything from the disappearance later in life?
Amazing and professional as always. I always look forward to each upload. One thing about the last story and people not being able to hear during a whiteout is that snow absorbs sound. Even without wind a whiteout is producing almost a solid wall of snow so sound waves do not travel in the same manner as the are absorbed and bounced around. This effect also happens in areas with lots of trees, canyon walls and boulders. That is why it becomes difficult to identify the direction of where a sound is coming from in these areas. You can test this yourself by going to a clear field and talking or shouting as with someone else (or a recording device st down and timing the distance of each shout) then do the same thing in a wooded area, canyon, and boulder field where the boulders are tall. You will notice that the sound either gets silent quicker or gets distorted and in different ways depending on the area.
Thank you so much for referring to it as "indecent assault", speaking of Pamela. So much talk about kids lately but I'll never excuse flagrant talk about it, nobody needs the details.
It's hard to say because it was just one video that kinda blew up for me. Here's what I would suggest, make highly produced videos, lots of footage / pictures etc. Make the videos at least 30 mins if you can. RUclips likes lengthy videos that are actually watched and then tends to push them out to a larger audience. If I had the time, every single video I made would be that kind of length.
@Immortal Till Proven Otherwise right! Either the guy that was with him lied or something crazy freaky happened. I've heard disappearance stories where the missing person was killed and reported as missing but they always at least find some type of evidence.
A good question here is what was his relationship with the govt.? The weather is manipulated by them, and after Philadelphia exp. (remember the fog? The tech went underground, but the exp. was the birth of it, not the death) why wouldn't they use this to make a person disappear they were working against? Just saying. . . Adults have more variables than children.
If people are taking small children into the forest where they might get lost, wouldn’t putting an “air tag” in their pocket or somewhere on them so there’s a better chance of finding them.
I find it very difficult to believe that a little girl who was wearing only overalls and sneakers was able to survive in the terrain around Mount Chocorua during freezing weather. Children of young age can be compelled to silence by an attacker, and it seems more likely that this is what could have happened if she had been abducted. I was curious enough about what she did with her future life to look up her obituary. It is perhaps unimportant but it is interesting that Pamela Hollingworth never married and died fairly young at the age of 56. She worked in public relations for worthy causes, including the UN Childrens Fund. I would be theorizing too much from such thin facts but my guess is abduction and a life spent covering the fact.
Definitely agree about the abduction hypothesis. There was a serial child rapist in Australia known as Mr Cruel and when victims were asked about him they wouldn’t go to elaborate, just say he was nice, despite having been tortured and raped by him. They were being compelled to say these things and to view what happened in a distorted way because he (to get rid of evidence) gave them baths and brushed their teeth after and was soft spoken when telling them not to say what had really happened. Some got candy afterwards if I remember right and that distorted their perception of the event (and thusly their retelling of it) even further. Kids are obedient to a fault, they can easily be convinced to lie or believe a lie. Add a threat in there and a kid probably will believe compliance is the only route to safety. As well as the “I’ll know if you say anything” line, as if they can read their mind/hear every conversation, kids are naive and won’t understand that post-abduction they are now safe and threats can no longer be followed through. Some are told lies like their family won’t want them anymore if they knew, making them decide to be silent for that reason too. There’s also the fact many kids do not comprehend what sexual assault is and, despite not liking it, can be tricked into believing it normal/nothing notable to tell a parent about later. Some kids don’t realise what happened to them until many years later when they formally learn about sex. It’s why kids need to be given some degree of understanding of what sexual assault entails to be able to identify it as something they must always speak up about and something they will not be judged/rejected by their parents over, regardless of what the attacker says.
@@kathymyers7279 wtf are you even trying to grasp at here? Do not find it hard to believe that a child, "lost" in the wilderness, lightly clothed, travelled a great distance, missing for 9 days, then to suddenly reappear?
There is something happening in our forests, and I have a feeling it’s always been there, but as we explore deeper into these areas the more often we interact with whatever it is.
Definitely seems 2 b something older wiser n more conscious of it's surroundings than what us humans give them credit 4! 👍 💯 ✌️ Especially if indigenous local n sniffer dog units cannot track or trace em!! 🤯
Im a long haul driver and drive heavily wooded roads a lot. One night just after midnight I saw something, which to this day I cant explain... large almost the size of medium height Pine tree ducking behind a tree when it saw the lights and as I got closer it ran really fast deeper into the woods. I live in South Africa.....
Had a guy that lives next to the woods told me one time he sense something very foreboding, & darker than black was approaching his house. His 6th sense told him to go inside asap, so he did.
She had to have been taken and repressed it. People repress insane things. There is no way a 5 year old would last 9 days in those temperatures. My dads a doctor and said that’s impossible. I think someone took her and freaked and held her and then just put her back.
I don't know if there's something supernatural going on in these cases. What I do know is when it comes to children it only takes that split second you let your guard down and there gone.
I can only speculate that Pamela was either taken by something or that she stepped into an alternate dimension. As for David, I have no idea. Bad weather seems to be a common scenario in many missing 411 cases sadly.
Here is the issue I have with other dimensions. The energy required to open a portal to go into another dimensions would have to be immense. Cern has been playing around with that and has happened. They are pooring immense amounts of energy into the collider. Nuclear bombs have been detonated and lighting has been striking all over the planet. Not one known or even possible event of a portal opening. Scientists suppose a lot. The idea of multiple dimensions is just am idea. They used to swear time was a thing. I have argued for years its a concept. A system of measurement we use to order our day. It's not something you can travel in or manipulate. Science has now getting the idea space/time isn't real. Mathematics proves it as equations beyond the plank scale fall apart when time is introduced. As hard as it is to imagine that little girl just got lost. She is very very lucky she made it back. Many don't. I hope this helps explain things. Now I have looked into many of the missing persons cases, so many of them have natural explanations. There are a very few that, I have to just say it's weird and I can't explain it. Things happen hopping dimensions I doubt is one. So I'm not a doubters of the weird I have seen things I just don't talk about. Yet even I can't get into dimension hopping. I always try to find a natural reason first and foremost. Then after long reading and trying to find all the info I can I may say it's strange. I hope this helps and makes the woods not quite so scary a place. Best of luck to you and yours
You think it's strange to go missing in bad weather? Your thinking is backwards. Btw, Paulides exaggerates, misleads and outright lies in his videos and books and so do many of the people touting the "Missing411" false narrative. National parks and forests are safer than city streets, unless you do something stupid.
@@freedapeeple4049 your absolutely right,there is so much David leaves out of things.? From drug addiction, to alcohol withdrawal to major depression and suicidal tendency. There are a few cases that come off strange but for the other 99% it's all normal with stuff left out that makes it seem like it's a mystery when most likely it's not. I don't know how many I looked into and found drug use, depression, possible suicidal tendency as told by close family, or someone just fell and wasn't found until later. He leaves all that out. It's not much of a mystery otherwise is it.
Wow, that lil girl Pamela had had some lucky parents, and obviously she was very lucky as well. I wonder if there Was a third party involved and she was drugged
Both strange cases, but the second one is especially chilling. That snow and fog suddenly descending like that makes me wonder if this was by design somehow.
Poor Pamela. One of the tricks of abductors is "If you tell anyone I'll kill your family and take you again." Missing hair ribbons, which she mentions, taken as a souvenir? And if she had been molested, would they have revealed 'her shame' at that time? (Not that it was her shame, but the abductor's).
Another common tactic I’ve heard of is making the kid believe their parents will hate them, be disgusted and sometimes even outright abandon them if they new the truth, which can be really effective in keeping a kid quiet. If it was ever found out they were abducted sometime later I imagine the family would probably try to keep it out of media headlines, I know if it was my kid I’d probably want that privacy for them.
@@Sanakudou It's the same trick child molesters use. There are a few in my family. I found out when I was an adult. Also, do you by chance live in NSW?
I don’t think anything bad happened to little Pammy I think she met some people camping and they invited her to stay with them, then they decided to move on, maybe their holiday was over I mean most people holidays last two weeks, I should think they had a little girl of their own and Pammy made friends with her
It could be that Pamela wasn't taken but was found by a recluse or recluses and cared for in a remote cabin or camp, then placed in a location where he/she/or they knew where she could be found.
Nah I reckon she met a family on a camping holiday who had a little girl, Pammy made friends with and they invited her to stay.. If she was abducted by a Peedy why would he let her go ?
@@nicholaswilliams4336 As long as the little girl was missing, there was still a chance that a search would continue and reveal where this person or persons lived. If all these people wanted was solitude, putting the child back would end the search.
True but if all they wanted was solitude..... why kidnap her in the first place and upon letting her go there’s always a danger she could lead the feds to the area she was held in Why would a peedy take that risk ?
@@nicholaswilliams4336 But do we know she was abducted? She could have simply arrived on their proverbial doorstep unexpectedly and they weren't sure what to do.
Did anyone think to look up into the trees?If she was somehow dragged up into a tree it could have happened as fast as they said she vanished.It wasn't someone that took the little girl it was something that took her.
Hey all, sorry for the wait on this one, I haven't been able to commit much time to things recently, but I should have another ready for next week on a National Park(s) so if there's a park you'd like me to cover or anything like that then let me know. - And do let me know your thoughts on the disappearances discussed.
Also, have a great weekend. Be safe all
No apology necessary, we all doing what we can & there's no need 2 explain nor apologize. I look forward to you uploading but i can also chill & wait, some days (weeks, months) r busier than others. We getting 15+ hours daylight here now Alaska, where we peak at 19+ hours n Anchorage at 1st day of Summer so it's a mad rush 4 us 2 get ready 4 fishing, gardening, getting vitamin D on our skin, build, hike, etc, too. Thank u 4 all that u do 🌞
Hey Adam, we're always happy to get new content from you! I also hope you are REALLY doing well man. Just concerned since we haven't seen you much lately. But we all have busy lives and it's totally cool and understandable, I just wanted to remind you how much we appreciate your work that you put in, knowledge of the subject at hand, calm/cool voice and professionalism especially when dealing with a story that deserves some extra thought and respect, for the families of the missing, hurt or dead...
BTW, give us a sign if the reason for you not having much time for stories lately is bcuz your in Ukraine spreading freedom with a MA DEUCE (it's a rumor that i might have heard). And sorry if I blew your cover.. inquiring minds just wanna know!
Thanks again dude!
Thanks Adam, glad you are ok. Great, well researched content and presentation, as always. Thanks for sharing. Rog from Wales 🏴.
@@anitaevans5361 I'd die, or at least go off the rails, if I lived in a place with that much daylight. Phuck that ☀️😂
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I wish we had that much sunlight, I do not like the cold,,lol but Alaska is an awesome state and beautiful, so I think it is worth it.
Brilliant! Thank you!!
Regarding Pamela: I can believe that she got away that quickly and that far. Because my granddaughter almost got away from me in a city park. I got her out of the car and the second her feet hit the sidewalk, she was up running into the open park. I slammed my car door closed, locked the car and quickly took off after her. By the time I was up the knoll into the open park, I could see my 4 year old granddaughter all the way across the open green. I started yelling, and if she had not heard me and stopped, she would have easily run a mile ahead of me, through the park and into the streets beyond. Her little legs were carrying her amazingly quickly away from me. Pamela was small enough to curl up into any snug place and keep warm -- warm places in the woods where a larger person wouldn't fit. I can believe she got the 2 miles away very quickly, even given the thickets and brush if the mood struck her. What I cannot explain or find any reason for is her not being dehydrated or showing signs of malnutrition.
Aww. Your granddaughter sounds like my baby girl. 😂😂 soon as she seees a park, shes goneee. Will run and run and run, fast + far as her little legs will take her 😂
Did you give her a whipping?
Man it's really awesome you share the joy of a happy ending instead of nothing but tragic...truly the best disappearance channel...you're up the with Dave P. 👊💯 different I know but the research is really spot on...can't say enough.. well done...again
Who knows but our spiritual father our maker what goes on when people come up missing never found?? Thats why these mysteries are so eerie & inticing to watch. Feels so scarey when I got lost within minutes I thought i was going backwards by turning around but was only going deeper. I got panicked!! Walking faster faster. I didnt scream out for my family cause I didnt wanna ruin everyone 1st day at camp!! Or for my dad to be disappointed. I tell my kids to never be afraid of me to tell me ANYTHING. Im so glad cause that has proved to be best!! I ended up at the entrance to the camp so i knew to go straight thru to get bacl using the sun as a directional point. I never said a word to my fam. But i was SO happy to see my dad!! The forest all looks alike inside the trees. When kids are found off course far away I definately get it!! You will walk so fast when youre scared!!
Great believer in the afterlife I think it will be an adventure, but I don’t believe that ordinary people go to heaven...
Another great video Adam, Greetings from Dublin.
Brilliant work! Thanks Adam.
Excellent video
That is why it is very important for people to stay on designated trails. And remember even professional hikers can be caught short if they underestimate nature.
In many instances it’s hard to tell the designated trails. Medicine Bow NP in Wyoming is a good one for example. It’s pretty easy to get off the trails there and not even knowing it.
I rarely ever hike on trails. I only use them to get to the back country where I can go off trail where no one ever goes. Been doing it since I was 14. As long as you're smart and are prepared, it's an amazing way to enjoy getting away.
@@whomonk Thats right. I know so many people in oregon who think that they’re “experienced” hikers, but never carry a map and compass. They also couldn’t tell you what a topo map is.
@@whomonk do you have any interesting stories to share? 🙏🏽
@@commiedisrespecter9710 and then you have the people that carry those things and have no idea how to use them😂
I just can't see a 5 year old lasting 9 days in the woods and still come out alive
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She had Angel's protecting her.
Well it happened…. It probably wouldn’t happen 95 times out of 100 but it still happened no matter how unlikely it seems to you.
@@dmrohde1234 LOL STOP
@@dmrohde1234 yes, could be. never know.
As to the case of the little girl who was lost for 9 days and then found healthy, is the official explanation really that she was just wandering in the woods the whole time? That defies common sense. It was freezing, raining, and sub-zero temperatures overnight. She was not dressed for that, and she had no food! Yet, she was perfectly fine? No, somebody was sheltering her. I'm glad she showed no signs of abuse, but she could not have survived 9 days alone. Maybe she blocked out the memory of what happened.
I don’t think little Pammy met with foul play, I think she met another little girl, and the parents invited her to stay with them while they were on a camping vacation. Nine days later the woods were crawling with SAR and the parents thought it best to put the little girl out and send her towards them. I do not believe she was abducted by a Peodophile why would he let her go ? Normally if police suspect this they step up the search cos the 1st 4 hours are critical after that they expect the victim is dead, I can’t see a Peedy looking after her, feeding her and toiletting her for that length of time
There is a good reason the people from antiquity had superstitions and feared the mountains
Thank you 🖤💜💖
Hi Adam really missed you. Hope all is well with you. Thanks for the upload. Cheers my friend 🇨🇦🍁
Thanx for the upload ..❤️👍😎
The best missing persons channel on RUclips!
So great to be back had int.problems great to hear your wonderful voice and stories about 😘😁🖐❤🖤‼
Not been watching your content long. As a fan of Mr. Ballen, this was recommended to me. Good stuff. Looking forward to binge-watching the rest. Subbed.
It does really sound so baffling how many of these case are of people who disappear and suddenly reappear without any real explanation like what exactly did happen to them during the period when they went missing and then they were found.
Dear Sean Could be the person was unconscious when they were abducted....
Personal locator beacon...very important.
Dreamy voice lull me to sleep while I learn about tragic disappearances and ponder the mysteries of our world 😊🥰🥰🥰🥰😘😘😘😘😘
Ten years ago I had just set out for a run, it was early morning say 6am in England, it was dark but just on the verge of getting lighter.
My route took me through an alley way next to a golf course, it was usually at that time very quiet although.
Oddly i saw 4 people in the alley ahead smoking and shouting (not at me) I don’t think they saw me but it made me feel a bit uneasy as it’s usually so quiet, so I turned around and was going to go run another route.
When I turned I heard what I can only describe as a loud metallic clapping noise. I looked up it was still relatively dark but I could see that I was in a field, and not the tarmac alley way I was previously stood in. The grass was long and wet and my running shoes were soaked.
I stopped jogging and started looking around and did not recognise my surroundings at all, I was in a large open field surrounded by woodland, none of the golf course or nearby houses were visible to me, when I turned around to look back the alley or the 4 people that were that had completely gone.
I panicked, it was a proper wtf moment,so decided to go back to where I was when I turned which was only a few meters away, as I was walking to the spot a shiny light appeared in front of my eyes which made me close them, when I opened i was back in the alley.
It was much lighter than it was previously and the 4 people were no longer there. I decided to run home pretty fast and give the run a miss. I noticed my feet and shoes were still soaked even though it had not been raining. So it must have been from the imaginary field.
When I got in my missus asked me how my run was and why it had taken so long as I was going to be late for work, over an hour and a half had past when I felt like I had been out for no longer than 15 mins. I checked my running app which tracked my runs and it turned off exactly where I turned around in the alley 6 mins into the run but never turned back on. I often think about it to this day.
I understand if you don’t believe me, If I read this I wouldn’t, but I felt like I needed to share it as I’ve never mentioned it to anyone as they’d think I’m nuts.
Very interesting.
Portals. Sounds crazy, but I'm starting to believe it.
For sure sounds like a dimensional shift. Your story is very captivating maybe the mysteries guy will make a story out of your comment. I've had unexplainable events happen in my life as well that have helped shape and mold me into the man I am today including a near-death experience in 2014 which occurred from a heroin overdose. Let's just say my experience in "The Light" as I like to call it left no doubt in my mind that life continues beyond the physical realm.
Where about in England ….were you near a ley line ?
@@vanessasworder Theale in Reading, Berkshire. I’m not sure what ley lines are?
Did doctor examined her stomach? Was she hungry for 9 days? If someone took her, he/she would probably fed her. So, doctor should of found some food in her stomach. They said nothing about internal check.
Great video Adam 😃
Yay Adam is back!
The child disappearances and finding of them alive are crazy! And why the memory loss, yeh shes 5, but she knew not to eat the berries and repeated that fact once found, they're not stupid or infants..
I love that there are still mysteries to be solved, but the not knowing is super frustrating!
Dear Natilie Memory loss might be attributed to the victim being unconscious during the abduction dare I say it such as abduction by a bird of prey....
@@nicholaswilliams4336 Abduction by a bird of prey is a frightening thought. 😰
Without speaking to any particular case, I’ve observed at Grand Canyon park and other parks across the country, how little attention is paid to young children. Many are allowed to run free and climb railing and fences. Making these observations over the years, I can see how children are victims of any number of misfortunate incidents. Adults must do better when it comes to childrens safety.
Dear Catman. Trouble is people treat the wilderness like its a walk in the park... I see this all the time...what people have to be made aware of is the minute you leave the safety of your car everybody you know is being sized up by every type of predator going ( animal and human ) including the ones you can’t see such as Birds ?....
@@nicholaswilliams4336 birds are only going to eat you after you are dead though. But I can agree they look at you with their beady eye waiting for you to fall dead as they salivate from the sent you give off.
Many humans don't understand that the forest is not the same as a small nature trail in the middle of the city. One can literally hide behind a tree with out being seen. The forest is a maze that like hugging you and doesn't want to let go.
And then should one of their children go missing they always lie and make themselves sound like the best parents in the world who were paying attention but somehow their child got away from them. It’s like nope, you definitely weren’t paying attention to your own child and they were most likely missing for at least 30 minutes before you even noticed.
Also, when people get defensive over these types of comments you definitely know they’re getting defensive because they know they’re crappy parents (which I’ve seen some people doing). There would be no need for defensiveness if you know you’re a good parent. Instead of changing their ways and being better parents they unfortunately just try to excuse horrible parenting. Adults need to stop acting like children can defend themselves. There’s zero excuse for being a bad parent.
@@isabellaangeline2175 I just had a family reunion at a city park and a two year old wandered off. His mom said that she thought the other kids would look after him... Without even asking them. We found him, but jeez, I just KNOW she would have blamed all the kids there for his disappearance if we hadn't found him.
I didn't think people were still allowed to go missing in the woods in this day and age.
Watch rusty west channel you will see how super common it is Vlad
@V. Walt Haha I was just joking around. You're the only one that caught it.
Love the video like always keep up the good work 💙👍💜
Hi Adam. Hope you're well. LOVE a top mysteries upload 🤜❤🤛
Hey BJH, I'm good thanks, I hope you're good too
love these videos, great content man 👍
Thanks so much
Just saw you posted great, now i can sitting on the sofa and listening to the best narrator on RUclips ❤🖤🖐‼
They should change the name of Mount Rainier to
"Mount Disappear!!"
Yea, or Mt. Don't go the hell up lol.
It’s quite likely that David could not hear Fabiani with the wind gusts as well as the interference of the falling snow. They very likely could have been 5 feet apart and David STILL would not have heard the shouting. Given the recovery of Pamela, I was looking forward to David’s rescue as well. 😢
Asked my dad again who was an MD he says a child at that age can not survive even 30 degrees from that long. He said she HAD to have been given warmth and water. Either it was a scam from the family, a pervert picked her up then didn’t rape her but assaulted her in other ways or just looked at her and freaked and dropped her off. But that it is impossible medically for this to occur without sophisticated skills in creating a warm den of sorts and remaining DRY with water. This is impossible. Someone is lying BIG TIME. MAYBE it was a police officer?
Why do people always assume the worst, I don’t think anything bad happened to Pammy
@@nicholaswilliams4336 medically it is impossible that she was outside in that weather like that without injury.
I whole heartedly agree with you , which is why I don’t think she did. I believe she met another young girl who was on holiday with her parents and got invited to stay... when SAR caught up with her, she appeared confused, probably cos she was expecting to be told off and instead she was surrounded by lots of nice people all wanting to cuddle her... however if something bad had happened to her, if she was kept against her will I sure that when she realised that the SAR were there to help I’m sure her reaction would be what little girls do.... cry her eyes out.... have a nice day !
@@nicholaswilliams4336 interesting take!! That has to be what it is! Unless there is something we don’t understand about this world. Or she blocked the trauma out and was taken by someone who didn’t physically abuse her but maybe just took photos and touched her without causing damage noticeable in an exam. Sadly my
Go to is that a man either did that or hopefully your theory is much happier!!
You too!!
Personally I doubt if anything of a sexual nature took place cos child molesters don’t usually hang out in the woods, unless there’s a school nearby... and at 5 years old she might not know wrong from right, but she’d certainly know when something’s not quite right and even if later in life she wanted to block something out I’m sure that in the highly emotional moment of being rescued she’d have cried her eyes out... instead she remained calm and confused ?
Love your videos mate
It’s nice that Pammie survived a happy ending for a change… but the fact she did survive and was found is a mystery in itself.
It would have been an exceptional opportunity for Pamela’s parents to have her hypnotized to find the answers to her 9 day disappearance. The brain is similar to a vault that causes human nature to bury and represent memories due to trauma.
I'm convinced Pammie was abducted... possibly by the ex convict, and held her in a cabin for several days. And then when he felt law enforcement closing in on him, he let her go. You can't trust what she said afterwards. What's more likely: she eluded 450 searchers for 9 days, surviving subfreezing temperatures, OR that she was taken on day 1, and then let go on day 8, and was so traumatized, she blocked out the abduction? Even the doctor said she had no scratches or after-effects of being exposed to the elements for 9 days. Being in an offsite cabin/house for 8 of those days, would explain this part perfectly. And just because he didn't r4p3 her doesn't mean he didn't take her.
Or perhaps what took her is paranormal, there are hundreds of cases just like this, where the person is taken somewhere else and held, and it's obvious no other human was around.
There are even accounts of the taken being able to see rescuers yet the rescuers can't hear the person, it is as if they are in some other realm.
@@jhughes2286 That seems just as likely to you?
Ain’t no way she woulda survived out in the woods with no food and weather conditions like that
@@RevZoneSafari exactly
They preferent maybe not tonsay it...and I agree in cases like this but the problem is that nobody paid for the abduction and.....
Never Travel/hike alone or separate from someone and always check the weather
Hike I meant
High incline SAR, is a tough road to hoe. Once you get above about 2000 feet, the amount of Oxy your body has to work with becomes an issue. Doesn't sound very high does it? In November on Rainier, you also have two weather systems to worry about, on the West side. You are carrying all your gear, plus rescue gear. Your boots have to be good for snow shoes, and crampons. As you have to traverse snow fields and at least two glaciers. They sent one team (4 people) and then a relief team. Which means they expected him to be smart up there, and make the job as easy as he could for them. The equipment we had back them wasn't too bad, a bit heavy but, serviceable. No radios or GPS but, you always prepare like they aren't available, just to be on the safe, even today. Dave should have followed his partners tracks, getting his whistle out once he was socked in. Once he figured he was fucked, gone to ground, then set his hi-vis panel out. Once his partner realized he wasn't where he was supposed to be and didn't answer to the whistle, he did right. Get off the hill and get help.
I think David found a crevasse. One of those things eat you, no one is finding you. You have line and beaners for a reason, they should have been linked up. After all gravity isn't just a good idea, its the law. (/rant)
Excellent video, as always Adam. Thank you.
If they were THAT good they would have had a connecting rope at the first sign of snow, no?
My cousin was on Mt. Rainer with his best friend and he fell into a crevasse. His best friend died and he was saved by landing in a small ledge. I think it was 18 feet down. He (I'm starting to cry) had an extremely difficult time but he got out. His friend taught him everything he needed to know and it saved him. He wrote a book called The Ledge, Jim Davidson. Then he was on Mt. Everest and the earthquake hit in 2015. I cannot remember what level. The book is in the other room. He filmed the horror in his tent actually, ( bet you can Google it, was on the news) was rescued after two days and was able to summit two years later. We followed his summit. I'm not too sure he will go again. If he was my husband...I suppose you could never ask someone not to do something like that. He had a dog called Jake the Wonder dog who just passed a couple months ago, a black Labrador who hiked everywhere with him. He wrote another book called The Next Everest. Brilliant man. I'm crying again. He was so good to my father, my father loved him dearly, his sisters son. Blessings to you.
@@chrishelmuth4065 If'n they were where I think, they should have been roped up long before. Best practice would be to link up just before the snow fields on the ascent, as they had two glaciers to cross, coming and going. That and they were two climbers short, for that climb at that time of year. Even Brad and I wouldn't do that, with modern gear but we're old climbers.
@@kirkjones9639 Then you are wondering where the bad judgement came into play? Seems possibly the least experienced was calling the shots?
@@chrishelmuth4065 Over confidence, until they realized they screwed the pooch. You always link up.
Remember gravity isn't just a good idea, its the law.
The second one sounds like the white out was the side of an avalanche an David was caught in the middle
If he was swept away by an avalanche his remains could have pressed into a rock crevice by the force of the avalanche.
Edited for fumble fungers.
Sometimes people "accidentally" cross a doorway into another dimension.
Bollocks...
Sorry no such thing as Portals or Dimensions David Paulides realised what a gullible audience he had so he makes things up as he goes along
Hello and greetings from Ireland i always look forward to these uploads.
Still producing great videos Adam, thanks for all your work, fascinating stuff.
Everytime someone's missing bad weather comes afterward. Someone or something knew
I wonder if the ex-convict took Pamella and then returned her after he realized he was a prime suspect. Then he just threatened her so she would say she was alone the entire time.
Definitely a prime candidate for hypnotism.
Or drugged her and no one ran a toxscreen. He said she sounded confused, my first thought was she had been roofied (or some such drug) and genuinely didn't know what happened.
I agree, I think someone took her, drugged her, but the police kept looking. So they decided it was dangerous and dropped her off where she'd be found by the search teams. Dead or alive.
That headline doesn't say there were several cases in the area the girl disappeared from, it says the convict was in the area. It doesn't say anything about where the several cases the convict had been questioned about were. It is important to pay attention to punctuation.
The convict probably had nothing to do with Pamela, but he’s a convicted villain so obviously in peoples minds he’s guilty
If you think this is mysterious then you are at risk of getting lost in the wilderness. For some reason people think it’s hard or impossible to get lost in the woods. This is the mindset of the people who get lost. You should respect how dense and unpredictable the woods can be. Children can easily be taken by animals. I doubt child predators hangout in the woods waiting for kids when they can easily just go to a school or playground. We’ve seen children and adults get lost only for their bones to be found close to the search areas years later.
Thank you Adam for your indepth research of people that have gone missing. It 's just amazing how quick & simple, or like I like to say, " in the blink of an eye", people just disappear. Your narration & information are outstanding. Have a blessed week & stay safe. 🙋♀️🙏🇺🇲
Thunderbirds
Good day to you.
Heya Alice
Girl found after below freezing weather on the 9th day .. you don't find that suspicious ..
Nope I think she made friends with another little girl whose family was on a camping holiday and they invited her to stay
During the spring in Yosemite park has life threatening moments all over. Between the bears waking up hungry, glaciers and ice melting. Not safe for babies!
And plenty of hungry Thunderbirds
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Thank you for sharing these events with us.
If you've never been in a white out if it's windy u can't see or hear anything let alone see in front of u
Its so frustrating there are so many questions you would like to ask and cant because they are not your children surely they could remember where they stayed at night whats with the amnesia with all these cases
Is the background music the same as what Top 5’s uses?
A full whiteout will deaden shouts...
Yeah that makes sense for sure
Agreed.
What's that thing going on at the end? I want to be one of those zombie ghouls running around.
It's people from patreon
Sound disappears fast in the woods like in a matter of yards. You can get turned around in four square meters no worries. I work the forest it happens I've seen it felt it and sometimes done it. This is a no worries case.
Good video. Is the narrator Welsh?
Nope a Duram lad for sure
I feel like Pam fell into a different dimension but the same woodland area in the other dimension.
I think so too
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Nah I think she met some nice people on a camping holiday and they invited her to stay... it’s so coincidental that she turned up after nine days unscathed
The mind has a strong natural instinct for survival. During cases of extreme traumatic experiences it's possible for the mind to subconsciously block out an experience as a safeguard to keep itself from completely shutting down. I believe the term is Dissociative amnesia. So it is possible the girl blacked out the experience then reconstructed her memory based on being put on a trail somewhere. She could have very well been taken which of course it's just supposition based off the available facts. It would be possible to try to surface those memories through hypnosis treatment but to do so could be damaging if it worked at all. Of course I am not saying this is for sure what happened. There are other cases of those which went lost in the woods, found father than they could have gone and with little to no memory of what happened. The timeframe spent lost in the wilderness suggests some kind of intervention. Dissociative amnesia seems possible but I am just making a guess at any rate. No way of knowing now anyway.
Love you videos, glad your back.. love from Alabama…
I get excited as bitch when I see a new top mysteries video. Keep it coming bro! I’m addicted to your videos!
I have to think that the girl was housed somewhere and set out alone with a 50/50 chance to survive. Thank God they didn't give up. The little ones can move pretty fast sometimes.
I'm curious as to the little girl still being alive and if so can she tracked down to see if she recalls anything from the disappearance later in life?
Pamela Hollingsworth age 56 RIP dear little one....
Amazing and professional as always. I always look forward to each upload. One thing about the last story and people not being able to hear during a whiteout is that snow absorbs sound. Even without wind a whiteout is producing almost a solid wall of snow so sound waves do not travel in the same manner as the are absorbed and bounced around. This effect also happens in areas with lots of trees, canyon walls and boulders. That is why it becomes difficult to identify the direction of where a sound is coming from in these areas. You can test this yourself by going to a clear field and talking or shouting as with someone else (or a recording device st down and timing the distance of each shout) then do the same thing in a wooded area, canyon, and boulder field where the boulders are tall. You will notice that the sound either gets silent quicker or gets distorted and in different ways depending on the area.
USA might be vast but England has a lot more history
England/the UK has far more white history than North America does but they both go back deep into human history.
And warmer beer
Thank you so much for referring to it as "indecent assault", speaking of Pamela. So much talk about kids lately but I'll never excuse flagrant talk about it, nobody needs the details.
Very interesting video! I like it when you have a story that involves the missing person being found! Thank you
That is found alive.
Hi Adam, could I ask you a quick question? How much time of producing videos did it take before you started getting traction and views? Thanks.
I am thinking of doing something similar, in a non-competitive field, myself.
It's hard to say because it was just one video that kinda blew up for me. Here's what I would suggest, make highly produced videos, lots of footage / pictures etc. Make the videos at least 30 mins if you can. RUclips likes lengthy videos that are actually watched and then tends to push them out to a larger audience. If I had the time, every single video I made would be that kind of length.
@@MissingVoidTV the girl only had berries to eat? But wasn't it wintertime? I wonder how this girl survived. 🤔
@@MissingVoidTV Thanks, that’s really valuable advice. I appreciate it.
@@Sunshine-is_here_to_stay I think she said she didn't eat any berries for fear of getting sick....
There was a Yosemite commercial before your video. 1,000's WILL GO MISSING THIS SUMMER FROM THE NATIONAL PARKS!
That is so creepy what happened with David... it sounds like something in the whiteout took him.
@Immortal Till Proven Otherwise right! Either the guy that was with him lied or something crazy freaky happened. I've heard disappearance stories where the missing person was killed and reported as missing but they always at least find some type of evidence.
A good question here is what was his relationship with the govt.? The weather is manipulated by them, and after Philadelphia exp. (remember the fog? The tech went underground, but the exp. was the birth of it, not the death) why wouldn't they use this to make a person disappear they were working against? Just saying. . . Adults have more variables than children.
It's scary to think that well-conditioned, experienced hikers go missing. What does that say for amateurs like me? I might never go hiking again!
Dear Bad Got ta say it experience or not Thunderbirds aren’t fussy what they snatch ?
If people are taking small children into the forest where they might get lost, wouldn’t putting an “air tag” in their pocket or somewhere on them so there’s a better chance of finding them.
I find it very difficult to believe that a little girl who was wearing only overalls and sneakers was able to survive in the terrain around Mount Chocorua during freezing weather. Children of young age can be compelled to silence by an attacker, and it seems more likely that this is what could have happened if she had been abducted. I was curious enough about what she did with her future life to look up her obituary. It is perhaps unimportant but it is interesting that Pamela Hollingworth never married and died fairly young at the age of 56. She worked in public relations for worthy causes, including the UN Childrens Fund. I would be theorizing too much from such thin facts but my guess is abduction and a life spent covering the fact.
Definitely agree about the abduction hypothesis. There was a serial child rapist in Australia known as Mr Cruel and when victims were asked about him they wouldn’t go to elaborate, just say he was nice, despite having been tortured and raped by him. They were being compelled to say these things and to view what happened in a distorted way because he (to get rid of evidence) gave them baths and brushed their teeth after and was soft spoken when telling them not to say what had really happened. Some got candy afterwards if I remember right and that distorted their perception of the event (and thusly their retelling of it) even further.
Kids are obedient to a fault, they can easily be convinced to lie or believe a lie. Add a threat in there and a kid probably will believe compliance is the only route to safety. As well as the “I’ll know if you say anything” line, as if they can read their mind/hear every conversation, kids are naive and won’t understand that post-abduction they are now safe and threats can no longer be followed through. Some are told lies like their family won’t want them anymore if they knew, making them decide to be silent for that reason too.
There’s also the fact many kids do not comprehend what sexual assault is and, despite not liking it, can be tricked into believing it normal/nothing notable to tell a parent about later. Some kids don’t realise what happened to them until many years later when they formally learn about sex. It’s why kids need to be given some degree of understanding of what sexual assault entails to be able to identify it as something they must always speak up about and something they will not be judged/rejected by their parents over, regardless of what the attacker says.
Why do YOU have to believe it?
@@kathymyers7279 Why do YOU have to ask?
A great outcome for this family! 💜
@@kathymyers7279 wtf are you even trying to grasp at here?
Do not find it hard to believe that a child, "lost" in the wilderness, lightly clothed, travelled a great distance, missing for 9 days, then to suddenly reappear?
Maybe I missed where he said it, but what year is the second story?
It says they set out just after mid November 1974, and that something went awry on the 18th, just a few days later.
Thank you, Adam! #EarthDay2022
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I like this channel a lot, but the background noise is so loud and distracting. I wish it were at a much lower volume - at least half.
There is something happening in our forests, and I have a feeling it’s always been there, but as we explore deeper into these areas the more often we interact with whatever it is.
Definitely seems 2 b something older wiser n more conscious of it's surroundings than what us humans give them credit 4! 👍 💯 ✌️ Especially if indigenous local n sniffer dog units cannot track or trace em!! 🤯
Im a long haul driver and drive heavily wooded roads a lot. One night just after midnight I saw something, which to this day I cant explain... large almost the size of medium height Pine tree ducking behind a tree when it saw the lights and as I got closer it ran really fast deeper into the woods. I live in South Africa.....
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Had a guy that lives next to the woods told me one time he sense something very foreboding, & darker than black was approaching his house. His 6th sense told him to go inside asap, so he did.
Dear Ferret. Was it the tax man ?
She had to have been taken and repressed it. People repress insane things. There is no way a 5 year old would last 9 days in those temperatures. My dads a doctor and said that’s impossible. I think someone took her and freaked and held her and then just put her back.
Personally I don’t think anything bad happened to little Pammy I think she met a family on vacation and they invited her to stay.
@@nicholaswilliams4336 I hope so!!
Even without knowing what the ex-con had been convicted before, I'm not impressed by his denials.
Feel a bit sorry for him really cos everybody is pointing the finger at him, seems like they’ve already found him guilty
I don't know if there's something supernatural going on in these cases. What I do know is when it comes to children it only takes that split second you let your guard down and there gone.
100 feet apart in a white out is a long ways away.. Just my 2 cents. Wonder if this was for avalanche concerns? Otherwise, I'd stay closer.
I can only speculate that Pamela was either taken by something or that she stepped into an alternate dimension. As for David, I have no idea. Bad weather seems to be a common scenario in many missing 411 cases sadly.
Here is the issue I have with other dimensions. The energy required to open a portal to go into another dimensions would have to be immense. Cern has been playing around with that and has happened. They are pooring immense amounts of energy into the collider. Nuclear bombs have been detonated and lighting has been striking all over the planet. Not one known or even possible event of a portal opening. Scientists suppose a lot. The idea of multiple dimensions is just am idea. They used to swear time was a thing. I have argued for years its a concept. A system of measurement we use to order our day. It's not something you can travel in or manipulate. Science has now getting the idea space/time isn't real. Mathematics proves it as equations beyond the plank scale fall apart when time is introduced. As hard as it is to imagine that little girl just got lost. She is very very lucky she made it back. Many don't. I hope this helps explain things. Now I have looked into many of the missing persons cases, so many of them have natural explanations. There are a very few that, I have to just say it's weird and I can't explain it. Things happen hopping dimensions I doubt is one. So I'm not a doubters of the weird I have seen things I just don't talk about. Yet even I can't get into dimension hopping. I always try to find a natural reason first and foremost. Then after long reading and trying to find all the info I can I may say it's strange. I hope this helps and makes the woods not quite so scary a place. Best of luck to you and yours
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You think it's strange to go missing in bad weather? Your thinking is backwards.
Btw, Paulides exaggerates, misleads and outright lies in his videos and books and so do many of the people touting the "Missing411" false narrative. National parks and forests are safer than city streets, unless you do something stupid.
@@freedapeeple4049 your absolutely right,there is so much David leaves out of things.? From drug addiction, to alcohol withdrawal to major depression and suicidal tendency. There are a few cases that come off strange but for the other 99% it's all normal with stuff left out that makes it seem like it's a mystery when most likely it's not. I don't know how many I looked into and found drug use, depression, possible suicidal tendency as told by close family, or someone just fell and wasn't found until later. He leaves all that out. It's not much of a mystery otherwise is it.
@@vikingskuld These circumstances are ruled out.
Wow, that lil girl Pamela had had some lucky parents, and obviously she was very lucky as well. I wonder if there Was a third party involved and she was drugged
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Don’t think anything bad happened to little Pamela, I think she met a little girl, made friends and got invited to stay in their camper van
Both strange cases, but the second one is especially chilling. That snow and fog suddenly descending like that makes me wonder if this was by design somehow.
I guess you have not had much experience with mountain weather...
@@freedapeeple4049 None.
@@owie4070 It is not unusual for these things to happen very quickly or suddenly in the mountains.
I think Carl killed David, and that they were never even close to the area where he killed him
Reminds me of the Stephen King novel The Girl That Loved Tom Gordon.
I’m still waiting for the romance story of a lifetime to be written... the girl who loved Nicholas Williams !
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Poor Pamela. One of the tricks of abductors is "If you tell anyone I'll kill your family and take you again." Missing hair ribbons, which she mentions, taken as a souvenir? And if she had been molested, would they have revealed 'her shame' at that time? (Not that it was her shame, but the abductor's).
Another common tactic I’ve heard of is making the kid believe their parents will hate them, be disgusted and sometimes even outright abandon them if they new the truth, which can be really effective in keeping a kid quiet. If it was ever found out they were abducted sometime later I imagine the family would probably try to keep it out of media headlines, I know if it was my kid I’d probably want that privacy for them.
@@Sanakudou It's the same trick child molesters use. There are a few in my family. I found out when I was an adult.
Also, do you by chance live in NSW?
I don’t think anything bad happened to little Pammy I think she met some people camping and they invited her to stay with them, then they decided to move on, maybe their holiday was over I mean most people holidays last two weeks, I should think they had a little girl of their own and Pammy made friends with her
@@nicholaswilliams4336 I hope you're right.
When the parents realised the woods were crawling with search and rescue calling out her name, they advised her to leave
It could be that Pamela wasn't taken but was found by a recluse or recluses and cared for in a remote cabin or camp, then placed in a location where he/she/or they knew where she could be found.
Nah I reckon she met a family on a camping holiday who had a little girl, Pammy made friends with and they invited her to stay.. If she was abducted by a Peedy why would he let her go ?
@@nicholaswilliams4336 As long as the little girl was missing, there was still a chance that a search would continue and reveal where this person or persons lived. If all these people wanted was solitude, putting the child back would end the search.
True but if all they wanted was solitude..... why kidnap her in the first place and upon letting her go there’s always a danger she could lead the feds to the area she was held in Why would a peedy take that risk ?
Nah I don’t think she met with foul play cos she came out unscathed, I think she stayed in a camper van with a family on vacation
@@nicholaswilliams4336 But do we know she was abducted? She could have simply arrived on their proverbial doorstep unexpectedly and they weren't sure what to do.
Climbing Mt Rainer in mid November is stupid, a park ranger should know better.
What great story telling. So glad for the little girl. Disappearances are scary.
I hope they bought the ex-convict lunch.
The poor bloke was probably completely innocent, been in the clink myself for small drug offences, does that make me an ex convict ?
@@nicholaswilliams4336 No' it makes you a poor bloke.
Boy I’d like to see you say that to my face
Did anyone think to look up into the trees?If she was somehow dragged up into a tree it could have happened as fast as they said she vanished.It wasn't someone that took the little girl it was something that took her.
Pamela was taken by someone then let go. GOD'S mercy brought that child home.
Nah she probably joined in with a family on holiday