hahaha, so true. plastering is so easy. I stuccoed my exterior wall and overhang with ZERO experience. I did a better job than my plaster guy did. swimming pool steve is all scare here
I am a DIY guy and can tackle almost anything, and I completely agree. I did every aspect of my pool remodel except the plaster. It is an art form that demands respect. My process took 11 guys, each with their own job in a symphony of skill. It cost $10k just for pebble plaster and I would pay it again. Thanks Steve.
It warms my heart when people "get it" like this. I am not being elitest when I say plaster is not a DIY project. I am saying this with hundreds of plaster jobs under my belt...it is literally not possible. Yes, you could push around some plaster material in your pool, but as you have indicated in your comment, the amount of experienced people it takes, each with their own job done at a specific time during the process is hard to understand until you see and do it for yourself. It takes more skill than it looks like, to be sure.
Hi Steve, my wife and I are eying a property for our retirement at the moment. It has a “pebble-crete” finish swimming pool, which looks terrible. Do you have any suggestions for re-finishing to a smooth surface ? I’m assuming it’ll have to be emptied and done by a professional. Thanks.
Definitely professionals. You need a plaster so the current surface needs to come out. Either by chipping or sand blasting, but either way it will cost a few bucks. Then you add a new plaster layer. Pebbletec actually makes smooth finish options as well, so perhaps they might be a good starting point to talk with since you have one of their surfaces already.
I come to this channel to get good advice. Steve you do a great job with your videos. I do see the pool guy mentality that you have to hire all this stuff out. I have champagne taste on a beer budget and I do everything myself. There are so many great products and videos out there on how to do practically everything that there is no excuse not to try. If you could get a plaster crew to do yourpool for a reasonable hourly wage per guy then hire them. I doesn't work like that. These guys want to make thousands of dollars off you in one day or two. I've been around all aspects of the construction trade and most so call professionals are sub par at best. They do have time acquired skills but most do a half assed job. Even the ones who charge the most. If you have common sense and are particular about detail and willing to follow instructions and do your research there is no reason you can't plaster a pool. I get tired of the you have to hire an expert mentality. My house is proof that I can do any work as good or better than the professionals. This isn't rockets science. My pool is 12 x21x5 ft deep with a fastlane swim current that I'm currently building. I will be sealing the pool surface myself.
hi Steve, I am planning to do my own DIY in ground pool with full tile. Is it necessary or beneficial to plaster my new pool if I tile the entire pool? Thank you.
Full tile pools are not plastered. They are tiled only. DO NOT think this is a small doable job. A full tile pool costs many 10's of thousand of dollars extra over other surface...but part of that is the labor component. When done skillfully, a pool tile job takes weeks to do with every cut laid out before the first tile goes in. You need a waterproofing layer like Basecrete before the tile work, but you need tile prep before the waterproofing. That is three individual layers which all require skill to accomplish. I am not saying don't do it. Maybe you are the worlds best tile setter. Just from my experience people talk about tiling a pool like it is something that anyone can do. It is 100% not that way. One of those things that is much harder to do than it seems, with a lot of ways to botch it. Be careful and good luck with your project!
@@Swimmingpoolsteve Hi Steve, can you elaborate on the 3 prep layers before basecrete for tiling a pool please? Also would u recommend to basecrete after a chip out if you're going to redo with pebble finish? Thx
I read the information at your site trying to find information on a more detail explanation of a structural cracks vs. cosmetic, also a bit more on pros and cons of sandblasting vs, jack hammer chipping the existing plaster, when is good for either one, I have my own thoughts on this, but would like to hear it from an expert. I have a pool that had a coating of epoxy paint over plaster 10 years ago and it has extended the life of our 25 year concrete in ground pool, but I am debating whether to add another coat of epoxy, or tearing the old walls completely and re-plastering to further extend the life of our pool, more permanently. Cost is always an issue, and life is all about maintaining a balance in my view. I assume tearing would involved jack hammering and not sand blasting, as jack hammering would leave a pitted surface for the new plaster to lock on to, but concerned about jackhammering since this can introduced structural damage, from past experience in seeing workers jack hammer a driveway that led to cracking the nearby base of cement columns. From a visual perspective the walls and tiles look sound, but I do have delamination issues by the steps and some hairline cracks on the shallow end of the pool so I emptied the pool to inspect better. I noticed some of the pool tiles, sounded hollow, when taping with hand, but a close inspection especially under the border of the pool edge, I saw no cracks or separations between the tiles, grout lines or where they meet the pool deck (cool deck), all looked well sealed and intact, if this is so, I have to give credit to our foundations here in AZ in Mesa, this area is ROCK SOLID! try digging a hole in our ground ! . Therefore, my suspicion is that the hollow sound on some of the tiles is due to original installation perhaps they did not use enough mortar or even a notched trowel to spread the mortar consistent to secure the tiles completely, but I don't think is is from leakage, considering I have done my share of tile installations in my own homes, over the years, to know about how improperly installed tiles sound and possible reasons. But I'd hate to rip off the existing tiles to confirm this. I have done a good amount of remodeling in various areas, also and while I am not an expert, in construction or remodeling of pools, I understand the mechanics of things with logic and practicality, but always seeking good information. You provide a great deal of knowledge via your videos and site and I hope this message reaches you and can help me answer the specific questions above, I am not planning on doing the work myself but simply trying to get more information to make a better educated decision. Thank you.
@@J_Strong it is. You take white 1in sheet tile, bc most big commercial jobs is white plaster, and just make a tile break so you can continue the next day, and it isn't that noticable. The biggest pool I've done was 29k square feet and We've done 9.4k square foot of that in one day 🥵.
I have family that are concrete finishers. Doesn't sound like they'd be able to do my pool plaster but I'm still tempted for them to try and save me some $$$.
It took a crew to replaster my pool and they did a great job. It helps when the plaster guy knows the people with the water trucks on a Sunday. It is not a one man job.
not even close to one man. I would do most pools with a four man crew, but that is still lean. But when you watch it you think it must be easy. Those four guys started at 6am and were done by noon! It only looks easy in the hands of the pro's!
I plaster pools for a living and let me tell you it takes minimal of 1 year to fully learn how to plaster. Lots of different troul shapes and sizes. Gotta know what time to switch your sizes. Yes we do this everyday but every pool is different.
i use one trowel. it takes way more than a year to fully learn how to plaster properly, imo. i know guys thave been doing it for 20 to 45 years and some of them suck.
@@joeydigrado382 2 years a go I did it with a roller and it still is great as brand new - dont let anybody convince yoiur otherwise - you can do it and you can do a btter job as the companies calling themselves pros - go for it
@@searcholex that's different material and a different thing. Try rolling on a mix consisting of ground up marble mixed with federal white cement, 340lbs in one mix, and you need 14 mixes for an average pool. It's not happening. Plaster isn't a thin layer it has to be 1/2 to 3/4 inch thick. Not only does it take a lot of years to learn, it's also extremely hard and very few people actually get good at it. Most of our pools look like a porcelain bath tubs when we are done.
Yes that is what I am saying. And since I plaster pools for a living I think it's probably good advice for people asking this question...because if I can't and I know what I am doing then a person who does not know how to plaster a pool is going to have a pretty hard time.
@@Swimmingpoolsteve Some people just can't afford not to do it on their own. For some people, it would cost half a year of their salary (after taxes) or more to pay for someone to do it.
@@josevictorino.9343 I can not disagree that pools and pool renovations are expensive, especially in the Cadillac of pools - a concrete swimming pool. However, the lack of money to spend does not give people the skill to plaster a pool. If my transmission breaks when I am broke then I can not simply rebuild it myself without specialized training...no matter how bad I do not want to spend the money. I think painting applications for pools exist to fill this gap between affordability and something that is able to be taken on by a DIY pool owner. Still, that is a whole can of worms onto itself, painting pools. Bottom line is that plastering a pool is a learned skill and no amount of want in the world can give you a skill you have not the experience to know yet.
@@Swimmingpoolsteve I disagree. I think repairing a transmission is much more complex and requires more specialized training than replastering a pool. However, I still think it can be done with the right amount of research. Also, why repair the transmission when you can buy a new car? For the price of replastering, you can buy a new car. When the ends justify the means some people will figure out how to do it. People are much more clever and skilled than you think they can be.
@@josevictorino.9343 nah, most men who want to be a mechanic can be one. most men are not cut out to be plasterers, its a different beast and takes a special kind of crazy person. mechanics is a lot of tinkering and remembering things. its easier to do that than to trowel 10k square ft 3-4 times over in a 140 degree white pool while pushing on your trowel as hard as you possibly can; while making everything baby smooth while the plaster is drying at a rate only an athelete can keep up with. you either got it or you dont, and most people dont.
You work on a crew assisting plaster installations for 5 to 10 years. This is how you learn to plaster. At 100 plaster jobs completed you will still need a more experienced plasterer to come behind and finish the imperfections.
Thanks for the reply I live in one of the most expensive communities in California everyone rips you off here.... I need a fix for a pool that is plaster but not willing to spend 10,000 dollars to have someone re-plaster what do you recommend. @@Swimmingpoolsteve
I want to just paint it, but you don't recommend that either, it seems that I can do something without spending a ton of money on a pool we use a few times a year, it's mostly just an eye sore for me and just annoys me to look not something I want to throw a lot money into
I see your in Canada too bad if you were here I just pay you. I know Im going to hire someone pay a fortune and then have them be annoyed with me because they think they should be making more.
@Cryptokent yes, such is the nature of concrete pools and it has always been this way. If you want to own one of the most expensive single luxuries a human can own...you might need to save some money to care for it. If you buy a car worth $250,000 do you get upset when there is no cheap and easy DIY repairs ypu can do? Im trying to HELP YOU by making you aware of the technical aspects of the thing you own, and to help you avoid destroying and causing tens of thousands of dollars to your pool by thinking you can do something yourself which takes years, decades even to learn how to do a passable job on (plastering).
no and i wouldnt even attempt it. make mix, dump, shovel to yourself? put it up, seal, make mix etc. its gotta be a very cool day and you would have to put crystal meth in your red bull, on top of knowing what youre doing.
@@mikepompano4248 it all varies some more than others a small pool about 150$ And bigger 220$ that's in the city more out in high valley 350$ a pool.. I work for a company called presidential..what's the pay out there
I'm plastering my 4.5mx3mx1.4m deep pool with my mate with marblite next week the hard part is do your research 10 times over🤔 then again 😅 then go for it but only if you have past your DIY test first, practice smaller tasks 🤏then work your way up 💪😏 I built my pool from scratch plumbed the lot 😁never done one before but have got this far and so far so good , MY MOTTO YOU'LL NEVER KNOW UNLESS YOU GIVE IT A GO, good day to you all 👍
Sadly, even with your statement the pros can sometimes do worse than the DIY. The difference in DIY vs Pro is the DIY is invested in the property. In the end you're wrong. A DIYer that has experience with plastering walls or anyone who has worked with the media can do this. Thing is, regardless of who does it, it mostly comes down to Demo, Prep, and abiding by instructions. A pro that is in a rush to get to the next job or stand bye a bond coat to account for crap work is going to do worse than many DIY.
Plastering a wall and successfully plastering a pool are entirely different in both scope and scale. I agree with the DIY person being more invested, but this is about physical skill with a trowel. It is HARD to plaster a pool. I had 100 plaster jobs under my belt before I started doing my own plaster jobs. With help, and experienced workers...and we still almost lost a bunch of jobs from issues that come up during the plaster. Ypu would be making a massive mistake to think a couple of people who have plastered a wall are going to plaster a swimming pool properly. It's orders of magnitude more difficult.
Is it getting to the point that we all should maybe start thing about poly liners? 25k plaster jobs and 6 dollar a pound chlorine is getting out of hand of the average middle class family.
I think everything is getting expensive for just about all families right now. A swimming pool is the single biggest luxury that most people will ever own, so it stands to reason that it is hard to afford. Hard to afford at best of times. And I do not think we are in best of times right now. You are not wrong about chlorine costs. Huge increases and more than just chlorine. As for poly liners there exists a market for both 30 mil and less vinyl liners as well as 50 or 60 mil pvc membranes for some applications. There is no perfect system. Oh, and get this...a $25k plaster job in one area of the country will cost you $7500 in a different area. Demand, cost of labor, quality of the product all variables. Cheers.
This is nonsense because me and my buddies did my huge pool and it came out awesome!!....Chip out, retiled , new coping, new plumbing, added water feature....It is not difficult if you have experience with a trowel.
If plaster is too technique sensitive and difficult, How about paper mache? I’m good at that.........good vid. I actually considered it here in NY where it’s $ like you said. (Heck, I have a well. Just draining and refilling the pool is a couple of Gs.
A LOT OF SCARE TACTICS HERE. Yes, what you said is "correct", but DIYs can of course get it done (it is not that hard) .
no, its hard. and if it isnt, youre doing it wrong and you will have a problem.
Exactly my husband did ours and did a great job!! This guy doesn’t know everything I promise!! Nope it can def be done by a go getter
hahaha, so true. plastering is so easy. I stuccoed my exterior wall and overhang with ZERO experience. I did a better job than my plaster guy did. swimming pool steve is all scare here
I am a DIY guy and can tackle almost anything, and I completely agree. I did every aspect of my pool remodel except the plaster. It is an art form that demands respect. My process took 11 guys, each with their own job in a symphony of skill. It cost $10k just for pebble plaster and I would pay it again. Thanks Steve.
It warms my heart when people "get it" like this. I am not being elitest when I say plaster is not a DIY project. I am saying this with hundreds of plaster jobs under my belt...it is literally not possible. Yes, you could push around some plaster material in your pool, but as you have indicated in your comment, the amount of experienced people it takes, each with their own job done at a specific time during the process is hard to understand until you see and do it for yourself. It takes more skill than it looks like, to be sure.
What about the sider roll on concrete replastering?
I have seen too many failures with this product to feel comfortable endorsing it.
My husband did it and did a great job! Saved 20k!!! Naaahhh I say if you think you can you can def do it!!!
Have you had any experience with the roll on plaster.
I just received roll on plaster material. Will know more in a few days
@@ujustswim how did it come out ???
You can tell from what santorini(white) pools made of ? Maybe its cover in plaster ?
Does a pool need to be replastered because the plaster gradually dissolves?
What do you think about roll on plaster
Hi Steve, my wife and I are eying a property for our retirement at the moment. It has a “pebble-crete” finish swimming pool, which looks terrible. Do you have any suggestions for re-finishing to a smooth surface ? I’m assuming it’ll have to be emptied and done by a professional. Thanks.
Definitely professionals. You need a plaster so the current surface needs to come out. Either by chipping or sand blasting, but either way it will cost a few bucks. Then you add a new plaster layer. Pebbletec actually makes smooth finish options as well, so perhaps they might be a good starting point to talk with since you have one of their surfaces already.
@@Swimmingpoolsteve you cant bond coat on top of pebble crete? thanks in advance.
I come to this channel to get good advice. Steve you do a great job with your videos. I do see the pool guy mentality that you have to hire all this stuff out. I have champagne taste on a beer budget and I do everything myself. There are so many great products and videos out there on how to do practically everything that there is no excuse not to try. If you could get a plaster crew to do yourpool for a reasonable hourly wage per guy then hire them. I doesn't work like that. These guys want to make thousands of dollars off you in one day or two. I've been around all aspects of the construction trade and most so call professionals are sub par at best. They do have time acquired skills but most do a half assed job. Even the ones who charge the most. If you have common sense and are particular about detail and willing to follow instructions and do your research there is no reason you can't plaster a pool. I get tired of the you have to hire an expert mentality. My house is proof that I can do any work as good or better than the professionals. This isn't rockets science. My pool is 12 x21x5 ft deep with a fastlane swim current that I'm currently building. I will be sealing the pool surface myself.
If they learned to do it, I can learn to do it, too!!
abolsutely ! you can do it
hi Steve, I am planning to do my own DIY in ground pool with full tile. Is it necessary or beneficial to plaster my new pool if I tile the entire pool? Thank you.
Full tile pools are not plastered. They are tiled only. DO NOT think this is a small doable job. A full tile pool costs many 10's of thousand of dollars extra over other surface...but part of that is the labor component. When done skillfully, a pool tile job takes weeks to do with every cut laid out before the first tile goes in. You need a waterproofing layer like Basecrete before the tile work, but you need tile prep before the waterproofing. That is three individual layers which all require skill to accomplish. I am not saying don't do it. Maybe you are the worlds best tile setter. Just from my experience people talk about tiling a pool like it is something that anyone can do. It is 100% not that way. One of those things that is much harder to do than it seems, with a lot of ways to botch it. Be careful and good luck with your project!
Steve im loving these responses 100% spot on i seen huge all tile pools and they cost a pretty penny
@@Swimmingpoolsteve Hi Steve, can you elaborate on the 3 prep layers before basecrete for tiling a pool please? Also would u recommend to basecrete after a chip out if you're going to redo with pebble finish? Thx
I read the information at your site trying to find information on a more detail explanation of a structural cracks vs. cosmetic, also a bit more on pros and cons of sandblasting vs, jack hammer chipping the existing plaster, when is good for either one, I have my own thoughts on this, but would like to hear it from an expert.
I have a pool that had a coating of epoxy paint over plaster 10 years ago and it has extended the life of our 25 year concrete in ground pool, but I am debating whether to add another coat of epoxy, or tearing the old walls completely and re-plastering to further extend the life of our pool, more permanently. Cost is always an issue, and life is all about maintaining a balance in my view. I assume tearing would involved jack hammering and not sand blasting, as jack hammering would leave a pitted surface for the new plaster to lock on to, but concerned about jackhammering since this can introduced structural damage, from past experience in seeing workers jack hammer a driveway that led to cracking the nearby base of cement columns.
From a visual perspective the walls and tiles look sound, but I do have delamination issues by the steps and some hairline cracks on the shallow end of the pool so I emptied the pool to inspect better. I noticed some of the pool tiles, sounded hollow, when taping with hand, but a close inspection especially under the border of the pool edge, I saw no cracks or separations between the tiles, grout lines or where they meet the pool deck (cool deck), all looked well sealed and intact, if this is so, I have to give credit to our foundations here in AZ in Mesa, this area is ROCK SOLID! try digging a hole in our ground ! . Therefore, my suspicion is that the hollow sound on some of the tiles is due to original installation perhaps they did not use enough mortar or even a notched trowel to spread the mortar consistent to secure the tiles completely, but I don't think is is from leakage, considering I have done my share of tile installations in my own homes, over the years, to know about how improperly installed tiles sound and possible reasons. But I'd hate to rip off the existing tiles to confirm this.
I have done a good amount of remodeling in various areas, also and while I am not an expert, in construction or remodeling of pools, I understand the mechanics of things with logic and practicality, but always seeking good information. You provide a great deal of knowledge via your videos and site and I hope this message reaches you and can help me answer the specific questions above, I am not planning on doing the work myself but simply trying to get more information to make a better educated decision. Thank you.
Hey Steve. Got a question for you when they build a lazy river is the plaster all done in one shot or are there cold joints thanks.
they most likely use tile breaks.
@@joeydigrado382 That is an excellent suggestion. That sounds like the secret to break a big job into smaller more doable jobs.
@@J_Strong it is. You take white 1in sheet tile, bc most big commercial jobs is white plaster, and just make a tile break so you can continue the next day, and it isn't that noticable. The biggest pool I've done was 29k square feet and We've done 9.4k square foot of that in one day 🥵.
I have family that are concrete finishers. Doesn't sound like they'd be able to do my pool plaster but I'm still tempted for them to try and save me some $$$.
It took a crew to replaster my pool and they did a great job.
It helps when the plaster guy knows the people with the water trucks on a Sunday.
It is not a one man job.
not even close to one man. I would do most pools with a four man crew, but that is still lean. But when you watch it you think it must be easy. Those four guys started at 6am and were done by noon! It only looks easy in the hands of the pro's!
I plaster pools for a living and let me tell you it takes minimal of 1 year to fully learn how to plaster. Lots of different troul shapes and sizes. Gotta know what time to switch your sizes. Yes we do this everyday but every pool is different.
i use one trowel. it takes way more than a year to fully learn how to plaster properly, imo. i know guys thave been doing it for 20 to 45 years and some of them suck.
@@joeydigrado382 2 years a go I did it with a roller and it still is great as brand new - dont let anybody convince yoiur otherwise - you can do it and you can do a btter job as the companies calling themselves pros - go for it
@@searcholex that's different material and a different thing. Try rolling on a mix consisting of ground up marble mixed with federal white cement, 340lbs in one mix, and you need 14 mixes for an average pool. It's not happening. Plaster isn't a thin layer it has to be 1/2 to 3/4 inch thick. Not only does it take a lot of years to learn, it's also extremely hard and very few people actually get good at it. Most of our pools look like a porcelain bath tubs when we are done.
Right on
What he's trying to say is that he doesn't think he could do it on his own.
Yes that is what I am saying. And since I plaster pools for a living I think it's probably good advice for people asking this question...because if I can't and I know what I am doing then a person who does not know how to plaster a pool is going to have a pretty hard time.
@@Swimmingpoolsteve Some people just can't afford not to do it on their own. For some people, it would cost half a year of their salary (after taxes) or more to pay for someone to do it.
@@josevictorino.9343 I can not disagree that pools and pool renovations are expensive, especially in the Cadillac of pools - a concrete swimming pool. However, the lack of money to spend does not give people the skill to plaster a pool. If my transmission breaks when I am broke then I can not simply rebuild it myself without specialized training...no matter how bad I do not want to spend the money. I think painting applications for pools exist to fill this gap between affordability and something that is able to be taken on by a DIY pool owner. Still, that is a whole can of worms onto itself, painting pools. Bottom line is that plastering a pool is a learned skill and no amount of want in the world can give you a skill you have not the experience to know yet.
@@Swimmingpoolsteve I disagree. I think repairing a transmission is much more complex and requires more specialized training than replastering a pool. However, I still think it can be done with the right amount of research. Also, why repair the transmission when you can buy a new car? For the price of replastering, you can buy a new car. When the ends justify the means some people will figure out how to do it. People are much more clever and skilled than you think they can be.
@@josevictorino.9343 nah, most men who want to be a mechanic can be one. most men are not cut out to be plasterers, its a different beast and takes a special kind of crazy person. mechanics is a lot of tinkering and remembering things. its easier to do that than to trowel 10k square ft 3-4 times over in a 140 degree white pool while pushing on your trowel as hard as you possibly can; while making everything baby smooth while the plaster is drying at a rate only an athelete can keep up with. you either got it or you dont, and most people dont.
So my question is ....how do you practice then?
😂
Just send it bud
You work on a crew assisting plaster installations for 5 to 10 years. This is how you learn to plaster. At 100 plaster jobs completed you will still need a more experienced plasterer to come behind and finish the imperfections.
Absolutely correct.
That wasn't helpful
Well sometimes the truth is not what you want to hear but still what you need to hear.
Thanks for the reply I live in one of the most expensive communities in California everyone rips you off here.... I need a fix for a pool that is plaster but not willing to spend 10,000 dollars to have someone re-plaster what do you recommend. @@Swimmingpoolsteve
I want to just paint it, but you don't recommend that either, it seems that I can do something without spending a ton of money on a pool we use a few times a year, it's mostly just an eye sore for me and just annoys me to look not something I want to throw a lot money into
I see your in Canada too bad if you were here I just pay you. I know Im going to hire someone pay a fortune and then have them be annoyed with me because they think they should be making more.
@Cryptokent yes, such is the nature of concrete pools and it has always been this way. If you want to own one of the most expensive single luxuries a human can own...you might need to save some money to care for it. If you buy a car worth $250,000 do you get upset when there is no cheap and easy DIY repairs ypu can do? Im trying to HELP YOU by making you aware of the technical aspects of the thing you own, and to help you avoid destroying and causing tens of thousands of dollars to your pool by thinking you can do something yourself which takes years, decades even to learn how to do a passable job on (plastering).
no and i wouldnt even attempt it. make mix, dump, shovel to yourself? put it up, seal, make mix etc. its gotta be a very cool day and you would have to put crystal meth in your red bull, on top of knowing what youre doing.
I myself plaster pools in arizona and you are spot on
Hi I'm a plaster guy in Florida with 20 years experience I was wondering what the pay is out there
@@mikepompano4248 it all varies some more than others a small pool about 150$ And bigger 220$ that's in the city more out in high valley 350$ a pool.. I work for a company called presidential..what's the pay out there
@@marlonvelasquez228 150 here . I'm thinking of moving out there
I work all around the valley and to be honest it's getting bigger and bigger alot of new houses and here in az almost all houses have pools
I'm plastering my 4.5mx3mx1.4m deep pool with my mate with marblite next week the hard part is do your research 10 times over🤔 then again 😅 then go for it but only if you have past your DIY test first, practice smaller tasks 🤏then work your way up 💪😏 I built my pool from scratch plumbed the lot 😁never done one before but have got this far and so far so good , MY MOTTO YOU'LL NEVER KNOW UNLESS YOU GIVE IT A GO, good day to you all 👍
Sadly, even with your statement the pros can sometimes do worse than the DIY. The difference in DIY vs Pro is the DIY is invested in the property. In the end you're wrong. A DIYer that has experience with plastering walls or anyone who has worked with the media can do this. Thing is, regardless of who does it, it mostly comes down to Demo, Prep, and abiding by instructions. A pro that is in a rush to get to the next job or stand bye a bond coat to account for crap work is going to do worse than many DIY.
Plastering a wall and successfully plastering a pool are entirely different in both scope and scale. I agree with the DIY person being more invested, but this is about physical skill with a trowel. It is HARD to plaster a pool. I had 100 plaster jobs under my belt before I started doing my own plaster jobs. With help, and experienced workers...and we still almost lost a bunch of jobs from issues that come up during the plaster. Ypu would be making a massive mistake to think a couple of people who have plastered a wall are going to plaster a swimming pool properly. It's orders of magnitude more difficult.
Listening to this killed my dreams of dyi solo plaster my pool hahaha 😆
Is it getting to the point that we all should maybe start thing about poly liners? 25k plaster jobs and 6 dollar a pound chlorine is getting out of hand of the average middle class family.
I think everything is getting expensive for just about all families right now. A swimming pool is the single biggest luxury that most people will ever own, so it stands to reason that it is hard to afford. Hard to afford at best of times. And I do not think we are in best of times right now. You are not wrong about chlorine costs. Huge increases and more than just chlorine. As for poly liners there exists a market for both 30 mil and less vinyl liners as well as 50 or 60 mil pvc membranes for some applications. There is no perfect system. Oh, and get this...a $25k plaster job in one area of the country will cost you $7500 in a different area. Demand, cost of labor, quality of the product all variables. Cheers.
This is nonsense because me and my buddies did my huge pool and it came out awesome!!....Chip out, retiled , new coping, new plumbing, added water feature....It is not difficult if you have experience with a trowel.
Jesus man! You must be a hoot on the juice, chin up sunny.
Negative Nancy!
I've had success DIY--just take time to watch more youtube videos on how to do it.
This guy is the most negative guy on RUclips. We come to RUclips to DIY ! Guy sitting in a chair is not scaring me.
If plaster is too technique sensitive and difficult, How about paper mache? I’m good at that.........good vid. I actually considered it here in NY where it’s $ like you said. (Heck, I have a well. Just draining and refilling the pool is a couple of Gs.