Not gonna lie I find it very interesting when you take a character and workshop counter play with king and walk us through your thoughts and ideas a video series in which you take two to three characters and workshop counter plays with king would be amazing and informative and potentially lead to more of the same videos and we could learn as you learn. IDK I just love your approach to fighting games and would like to see more of the inner working of LilMajin gamer brain
@@keith333FACE I would love to have King videos dedicated to counter certain characters. That would make for a good video series. Teach me how to fight JUN!!!
He was playing since Tekken 1 when his father bought the first game for him as a gift for Christmas. And bro, He then keep using king and became a legend and the best king player that supplexed the gods of tekken
@@finetechnology1958 since 2017 and 2018 and his been a long time pro player since Tekken 5,Tekken 6,Tekken tag 2,Tekken 7 but he his still waiting for the right time to join EVO this year or maybe next year including the Tekken world tour
Having never played any fighting games before, I instantly fell in love with how King played in Story Mode and I've been playing and learning him for the past 3 weeks at this point. Your videos have definitely helped and I am learning what I can and can't manage in fights.
Tekken 8 is the first Tekken I’ve touched since Tekken 3. It took me ages to be competent at maining Feng, but I’m gonna be trying King out SOLELY through watching your videos. Love your channel ✌🏽
I’m sure you’re a busy man Majin but we need more of you! I don’t know if you understand how appealing your videos are or how much reach you truly have! I hope you do appreciate how much we support you and love your content. Either way keep going strong bro 💪🏽
That the kind of content I was looking for when I subscribed to this channel. Watching Lil Majin play is good. But him explaining what is good or not and when is exactly what I need. Because I don't lab. Playing ranked is good enough for me. I made it to Fujin. Some thinks it's not that hard with King. As casual player, I think it's not that bad. One mad guy said King had the most OP crushing moves(edit : "power crushes"). The thing is, I was not using them much. Same for heat moves and rage. I'm old-school Tekken player and I really can't stand all of that modern bullshit. But eventually it will be natural for me. That particular sore loser coping for underestimating me actually made me realize I should be spamming uf3+4 more. Same for those heat and rage buttons. Anyways.Thx for the good helpful content.
The amount of hate mail I get from playing king is ridiculous. People whine about him and that’s the reason he gets so many nerfs. Either way I’m still riding with king, nerfed or buffed.
People whine about a lot of characters. I'm an Alisa player and people whine about her all the time. Luckily she's not getting nerfed too much but yeah Idc lol
Hey Majin, great video as always. What moves would you recommend against Zafina? I find her difficult to deal with because of her low stances and I end up getting high/mid crushed a lot.
I love these kind of videos! You've inspired me to play King and your videos have been incredibly insightful. Looking forward to see you compete again!
I see a lot of people on X (Twitter) are calling for more King nerfs, claiming he's at the same level of Alisa in terms of being broken. I don't understand the hate for grapplers.
I don't get the complaint King is so basic like his moves are. If you watch all the great King players you know all the inputs to the moves but wonder why you can't do it. It's the execution of the inputs and the mind games of the player. You can't mash buttons with King. You have to be precise like a heart surgeon.
I think his armored jaguar sprint with heat activated should have some sort of stun effect, like if an enemy attacks the armor they get a sort of stagger, like have their arm swing up like how it looks when Steve and Victor get their punch parries off. Just a thought that came in mind
Man, I don't even play Tekken anymore but I love keeping up with it through your personality. I really loved this format, and would be stoked to hear your impressions on Yoshimitsu!
this is a great format majin. you're definitely one of the coolest minds in the game. I think you would make an unbelievable coach if there was more of a market for that in the tekken scene as well.
Better wall combo is 1,2 f3 then you have options like chest bump after which catches stand ups and some other options, or a ground grab for the ones who lay there
It would help if you put a updated full guide video of king I feel like I need help doing your df 1 +2 into throw like I don’t understand the movement I’ve looked it up nobody really speaks on it, and it would also help to include situational tips aswell like what to do when your throws are constantly being ducked and mids being checked
hey there ive basically never really been a tekken player but ive been learning it to get better but my friends sadly are very outside my skill level if they are trying hard. im curious do you still do coaching at all? ive been specifically learning king but i lack alot on just fundies in general.
I real deal love the King matchups i get in blue rank. a lot of them are stuck using the same gameplan. Feels good to figure it out and stump them. i do run into the occasional beast tho.
I think king is really strong but everyone is really strong in at least one way or another, in a weird way I think king is more of an honest tekken character than most now that throws aren’t homing. Sure throws can be annoying but if you’re playing at intermediate to high level you’ll break most. Sure king has visual mixups on some of his throws (that are high) but think about how many situations you’re put into by certain characters where you just have to constantly guess in open play? Df2 is his best move and probably one of the best moves in all of tekken 8 but take that away and I think king would be in the bottom half of the tekken roster. Also his movement being so bad is such a problem against certain characters too, I think king is probably fine and pretty honest.
That’s literally it he’s just a very strong character, frustrating to fight against but not broken, and he just kills lower ranks. I hate this idea of wanting to completely nerf all the top fighters. There’s always going to be fighters at the top that are better than others, as long as they’re not outright broken I don’t see a problem with them being up there. It’s like people don’t understand that if you nerf king or any other top character, characters below them will just be powered up and take their spot
Do a tier Majin it’s time. We’ve been thru 3 patches already. King is bottom of top 15 in pro tournaments, more like bottom of top 10 in online play. Good but not great. Top top tier characters are like Jin, Kazuya, Devil Jin, Coffee girl, Yoshi, Reina, Eddie, Lili
i'm not sure how you counterhit using df 2,1 but based on the number of frames, it's not humanly possible to do it with just the counterhit spark. i just let it rip when i felt like i see the opponent looked like they pushed a button. At max delay, you can only press the 1 after 26 frames. and since the startup of df 2 already eats ups 13 frames, you only have 13 frames to react to the spark, which isn't humanly possible. what are other people's techniques to hit confirm rather than through raw visuals?
One thing I like about JGR2 is that I can use it against people who like to duck RKO on reaction, since it's 5 frames faster and is pretty much unreactable. Not amazing by any means but def something I like to do. Still sucks how they keep nerfing throws. I also wish that heat did a bit more for King besides giving him his super strong heat smash. Everyone else seems to get cool stuff. Why can't King? That being said, I still love playing him and he is undoubtedly a strong character. Landing stuff like King's Bridge or Tombstone is pure dopamine. Love your videos man, keep up the great work!
@@UltimatViolet think pass the layer 1 level my friend. The biggest strengh of jag sprint and muscle armor is you make your opponent stop and think or commit to an action. Jag sprint stop like a yoshi player does the run and run away.
@@rpgtimefire What makes Muscle Armor good is the fact that the built-in follow up is a safe mid heat engager that is extremely plus on hit, which inherently leads to free, unchallengeable mix. Muscle Armor can also be cancelled into a bunch of shit, such as any of King's throws, hopkick, ffn2, or whatever else. It's practically impossible to whiff punish. Armored Jaguar Sprint adds very little and is more of a gimmick at low to mid ranks. On hit, most of Jaguar Sprint's options are solid, especially RKO since it's a tracking heat engager and JGR1 having guaranteed follow-ups. However you tend to risk losing your turn or getting hard punished should they guess correctly. The risk-reward isn't always in King's favor. And if you choose to cancel the run after doing it, you're stuck unable to do anything besides block for a bit.
@@rpgtimefire Jag sprint is still pretty bad. They can just jab you out of it. It's not like the counterplay actually requires brainpower. The sprint itself also isn't really a mixup. RKO is completely reactable and the elbow isn't a mixup. People see the flash for the RKO and just duck and kill you. It's completely useless against high rank players. Forget the sprint in general. You're better off using heat for his f21 whiff punish or his heat smash.
I feel like the way that most characters/players win games, king can't utilize. The amount of risk you have to always take and the amount of shit you are forced to block is too much. They need to #1 fix King's movement and oki for sure. Also idk about y'all I don't like f,F,2. Might be just me me but for 31? frames the reach seems lackluster, no? I'm curious to how other people use this move.
Exactly. So many carried plus frame boosted character that don't even need to think about defence plus with panic evasive moves is ridiculous. To be good with king you have to actually be good at tekken.
Nah leave king where he’s at, characters need weakness and strengths to give them identities just because the rest of the roster has certain things doesn’t mean he needs them as well. Despite his weaknesses he’s still a very strong character, He’s in a perfect spot, his entry level was definitely lowered but he’s still hard to master and takes a lot of skill at higher levels
Id put king at #6 spot personally, his backdash is trash but i think ur underselling his backwards jaguar step, it covers a lot of distance and low crushes while doing so. I also dont think his wavedash is as useless as u make it out to be, seeing as how he can do grabs out of em and can do ff,n.2 out of it as a low mix. Top 10 character for sure in my eyes Nice vid though! Love that you give more substance to your opinions.
I have a suggestion: who's the top 10 characters in tekken rn including king of course. I think the new characters are definitely in that top tier as well 🤷🏾🤷🏾♂️.
Does anyone know the inputs for the 80 damage combo? Cant for the life of me transition from the 2 to the f f3. Wondering if I’m getting something wrong.
Hey brother! Hope you're well. Could you please make a video on King's top 10 best moves, and King's top worst moves like did you on tekken 7? God bless.
Either armor king doesn’t make it or we get a completely new version of him. Which I think is most likely the case, Lidia and eddy both changed drastically
I think they nerf muscle buster,f3:1+2 and b3:1+2 oki maybe because using f2+3 heat enganger as okizeme because it is guarantee if enemy wake up backward and any get up kick.
Man, that instant tornado thing is real 😂. Shoot I can barely get past the purple rank with king in ranks. Ppl really know how to play against king players. And it's worse if I'm playing against an amateur king player with someone like Jun
If you look at the overall changes from tekken 7, he definitely got the shorter end of the stick compared to the rest of the roster. Lost oki from most of his throws, movement worsened (was already bad) and what did he gain? A gimmicky stance and running armor that aren't viable at higher levels. A real shame that bamco bent over to the knee jerk reactions of the playerbase instead of letting the meta settle a bit
Best armor in the game. Scariest wall pressure. Biggest back dash and with SS buff being big isn't that bad. One of the best CH. Blue spark throw maintains 10/9 frame to break window. Def not the short end of the stick. Devil jin got the short end of the stick.
@@rpgtimefire Uh, King does not have scary wall pressure relative to the rest of the cast. He may even have among the worst wall pressure due to how ST oki works. King in Tekken 7 had a better backdash, better CH combos, BK combos and setups, much better oki and a much better wall game. T7 King was a better overall character than T8 King is. Blue spark throws only have the reduced break window on CH and while the increased damage is nice, he actually got more damage overall in T7 due to the fact that his post-throw oki was better after iSW, TT, MB, and TS.
@@thefabledenglishman6000 really who kills you more for ducking at the wall ? Also everyone had better ch king is the only one who retained most of his ch utility. Wall pressure is more then oki. And king is more then oki now. Even tho he finally has a legit wall ender that leaves him like plus 6. He can actually play neutral without dying and its way easier to setup throws in this game. I said blue spark is short ch. He actually does more damage now because health is lower. Who else has a confirmable 13frame ch launch mid. A launch at the wall ch 9frame push. Ch whole rising chop. Also hit confirmable. Convict that might as well be safe. Also in this game rolling sobat hits so low his worse match ups have been made way easier. Shining actually gives you more nasty oki cause of deadly boomerrang. Im t7 he was in constant fear if being rushed down now he has the best get off me power crushs that all lead to ch follow ups. All this couple with adding extra damage at the wall for oki. Guaranteed ally kick off regular hit convict kick or it can wall splat. Wave dash for the mix on okay so people can't just step you. Plus easy gut punch input which has always been super cursed. Like come on bruh t7 king in this game would die a horrible death. Also he can back dash out of stuff normal characters can't. Despite having the slowest back dash its so big he can literally just regular back dash away from strings. Its crazy.
@@rpgtimefire Er, every character in the game can kill you for ducking at the wall and most other characters have higher wall damage and can force genuine 50/50s. Yoshi, Bryan, Lili, Lee, Paul. These are characters with top tier wall games with loopable oki. King is a long way behind these characters and if he wants to maximise his damage with the wall throw he loses the wall completely. In T7, King's wall game was much better. He had GTs that were actually worth a damn, unblockable setups, cross-ups, triple GT setups, tech catches, you name it. All of that is gone in T8. As for the rest of the stuff you mentioned, King had all of that in T7 - and it was all better in T7. Even iSW was better in T7 for oki because f3 and d3 always landed and he STILL had cross-up setups in that game. Dunno why you're mentioning convict kick so much, that shit is garbage and it has been for years at this point. The only thing he really gained in T8 was his armour, and specifically muscle armour. And we're all using it because his movement is so poor.
Man, the f+4 trick for when they want to get up is amazing. I had a lot of trouble lately with people getting up in all sort if weird ways that would hit me, to the point that I was afraid of approaching anymore when they were down. But I just had a few matches in which I used f+4 and it worked so well! The jaguar jump back is also, as you mentioned, quite risky. And I am tired of people being able to easily react to my jaguar sprint ending. They will literally duck or block around 80% of my attempts if they are a good player. Plus, some characters can actually just jab me and they will cancel my attack before I even get to do it, wtf... After getting side-stepped like crazy I tried to do the same thing with my enemies but I always get wrecked if they spam, it's quite sad. Thanks for sharing! Everything here was very informative. King is the only character I play ever since I saw you playing him.
I think he was arguable top 5 prepatch, but definitely not now. I think people are overestimating him way too much. I know people don't understand the character when they say that king's new crouch dash is a buff.
Not gonna lie I find it very interesting when you take a character and workshop counter play with king and walk us through your thoughts and ideas a video series in which you take two to three characters and workshop counter plays with king would be amazing and informative and potentially lead to more of the same videos and we could learn as you learn. IDK I just love your approach to fighting games and would like to see more of the inner working of LilMajin gamer brain
100 percent majin
Right now im taking tips from ui potato.. he's the best just like you brother
@@keith333FACE I would love to have King videos dedicated to counter certain characters. That would make for a good video series. Teach me how to fight JUN!!!
Huge combat knowledge you have bro, we really want you to participate in tournaments.
Kings dont compete until the time is right. Now is not the time.
He was playing since Tekken 1 when his father bought the first game for him as a gift for Christmas. And bro, He then keep using king and became a legend and the best king player that supplexed the gods of tekken
@@Kingmain707 is he playing EVO
@@finetechnology1958 since 2017 and 2018 and his been a long time pro player since Tekken 5,Tekken 6,Tekken tag 2,Tekken 7 but he his still waiting for the right time to join EVO this year or maybe next year including the Tekken world tour
Having never played any fighting games before, I instantly fell in love with how King played in Story Mode and I've been playing and learning him for the past 3 weeks at this point. Your videos have definitely helped and I am learning what I can and can't manage in fights.
Tekken 8 is the first Tekken I’ve touched since Tekken 3. It took me ages to be competent at maining Feng, but I’m gonna be trying King out SOLELY through watching your videos. Love your channel ✌🏽
King is a very fun character so get ready for a great experience!
@@lilmajin bro ak is better and much more fun to play with looking forward for his release
@@4lat4oot Wow Tekken 3 you had to be like WTF is this😂
Don't even play King but love watching your videos, always insightful and interesting
I’m sure you’re a busy man Majin but we need more of you! I don’t know if you understand how appealing your videos are or how much reach you truly have! I hope you do appreciate how much we support you and love your content. Either way keep going strong bro 💪🏽
King's always gonna be #1 in my heart, tierlist be damned
Bryan, King and Steve will always be my favourite characters!
That the kind of content I was looking for when I subscribed to this channel.
Watching Lil Majin play is good.
But him explaining what is good or not and when is exactly what I need.
Because I don't lab. Playing ranked is good enough for me. I made it to Fujin.
Some thinks it's not that hard with King.
As casual player, I think it's not that bad.
One mad guy said King had the most OP crushing moves(edit : "power crushes").
The thing is, I was not using them much.
Same for heat moves and rage.
I'm old-school Tekken player and I really can't stand all of that modern bullshit.
But eventually it will be natural for me.
That particular sore loser coping for underestimating me actually made me realize I should be spamming uf3+4 more.
Same for those heat and rage buttons.
Anyways.Thx for the good helpful content.
The amount of hate mail I get from playing king is ridiculous. People whine about him and that’s the reason he gets so many nerfs. Either way I’m still riding with king, nerfed or buffed.
People whine about a lot of characters. I'm an Alisa player and people whine about her all the time. Luckily she's not getting nerfed too much but yeah Idc lol
Because those characters are annoying that's it they just dont nerf correctly
"So many nerfs"
😂😂😂
Played king since playstation 1
Perfer fighting kings vs fighting xioyu Lilly or zafina
A dear friend of mine is main King (actually he just opened up his channel too, @BatMajin … yes that’s actually a small tribute to you
No nerf gonna break King’s spirit my friend ;)
Butt majin lul
2:04 that mid combo side step is crazy hard. I just learned that recently and it's a pain to perfectly execute it
I can't believe I watched the entire video at 3am, I don't even play Tekken. I just love watching your gameplay Majin, keep it up!
I don't condone your decisions at 3am.... but I also understand why. LilMajin is still The People's Champ.
Love your coaching King...❤❤
YAAAAAAAAAAYY MAJIN GOONNA START COMPETING AGAIN!!! LETS GO MAJIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!
I love your videos man keep up the good work
hearing Dudley's Third Strike theme always makes me grin from ear to ear, thanks for keeping it classy
Hey Majin, great video as always. What moves would you recommend against Zafina? I find her difficult to deal with because of her low stances and I end up getting high/mid crushed a lot.
ffn2
d3
f4 (hits grouned to it should be good)
@@DEMONICBANANA7087I recommend db3 as well. Long range low that gets guaranteed follow up on counter hit
@@dako91196 db3 is actually great against zafina since her ws i14 punish is just ws4.
Mid launchers with lows, she Is anoying bcs her low stance , u canlab her
@@dako91196 Thats true but i think it might be on the slower side
The Evo event came and went, and still no appearance from Lil Majin. I for one am devastated.
I love these kind of videos! You've inspired me to play King and your videos have been incredibly insightful. Looking forward to see you compete again!
Very excited to see you in tournament again haha
Enjoyed the video, really like the breakdown of Kings buffs and debuffs.
I see a lot of people on X (Twitter) are calling for more King nerfs, claiming he's at the same level of Alisa in terms of being broken. I don't understand the hate for grapplers.
To be fair 99 percent of players are not breaking throws consistently. Which means counter play is locked for 99 percent of people.
You also have to consider that Twitter is where people go to complain and not much else.
I don't get the complaint King is so basic like his moves are. If you watch all the great King players you know all the inputs to the moves but wonder why you can't do it. It's the execution of the inputs and the mind games of the player. You can't mash buttons with King. You have to be precise like a heart surgeon.
Would love to hear your opinion the match ups you believe King has the advantage in, is fairly neutral, or struggles in since patch 1.05. Much love!
I think his armored jaguar sprint with heat activated should have some sort of stun effect, like if an enemy attacks the armor they get a sort of stagger, like have their arm swing up like how it looks when Steve and Victor get their punch parries off. Just a thought that came in mind
Man, I don't even play Tekken anymore but I love keeping up with it through your personality. I really loved this format, and would be stoked to hear your impressions on Yoshimitsu!
this is a great format majin. you're definitely one of the coolest minds in the game. I think you would make an unbelievable coach if there was more of a market for that in the tekken scene as well.
hey how come you havent posted in a while, you at evo's?
Need to get my throw punishes up, great informative video man
I’ve gotten to fujin with king purely by watching this man’s streams, and this is my first tekken game haha
It would be cool to see a video of your thought process when playing other characters
This was very informational, thanks majin, tekken 8 my first tekken i played ranked, and man is it hard. Thanks for all these videos.
I would love an updated oki guide!
I would really like to see you again in the competitive game!!! ❤
I definitely enjoyed hearing your knowledge while watching you
The time is almost here. Lil Majin makes his return to Evo. The fans await. The King is back
No estuvo en la Evo hermano:'(
Didnt see him in pools
He sin't playin this year
I would love to listen to your insight on what you believe is top 5 currently. Thank you for the videos!
Better wall combo is 1,2 f3 then you have options like chest bump after which catches stand ups and some other options, or a ground grab for the ones who lay there
I think being able to punish power crushes with throws is huge for him
It would help if you put a updated full guide video of king I feel like I need help doing your df 1 +2 into throw like I don’t understand the movement I’ve looked it up nobody really speaks on it, and it would also help to include situational tips aswell like what to do when your throws are constantly being ducked and mids being checked
I’m really struggling against tier hors in Raijin, it’s all people who already finished max rank with their main character, so I’m kinda stuck now
hey there ive basically never really been a tekken player but ive been learning it to get better but my friends sadly are very outside my skill level if they are trying hard. im curious do you still do coaching at all? ive been specifically learning king but i lack alot on just fundies in general.
I real deal love the King matchups i get in blue rank. a lot of them are stuck using the same gameplan. Feels good to figure it out and stump them.
i do run into the occasional beast tho.
A big buff id like to see is better frame after wall grab -10 or whatever is dumb
People complaining a counter hit mid why??? That my favorite way to launch king player.
Not decent king is just gonna rip df2,1 it's incredibly confirmable
I think king is really strong but everyone is really strong in at least one way or another, in a weird way I think king is more of an honest tekken character than most now that throws aren’t homing. Sure throws can be annoying but if you’re playing at intermediate to high level you’ll break most. Sure king has visual mixups on some of his throws (that are high) but think about how many situations you’re put into by certain characters where you just have to constantly guess in open play? Df2 is his best move and probably one of the best moves in all of tekken 8 but take that away and I think king would be in the bottom half of the tekken roster. Also his movement being so bad is such a problem against certain characters too, I think king is probably fine and pretty honest.
That’s literally it he’s just a very strong character, frustrating to fight against but not broken, and he just kills lower ranks. I hate this idea of wanting to completely nerf all the top fighters. There’s always going to be fighters at the top that are better than others, as long as they’re not outright broken I don’t see a problem with them being up there. It’s like people don’t understand that if you nerf king or any other top character, characters below them will just be powered up and take their spot
Do a tier Majin it’s time. We’ve been thru 3 patches already. King is bottom of top 15 in pro tournaments, more like bottom of top 10 in online play. Good but not great. Top top tier characters are like Jin, Kazuya, Devil Jin, Coffee girl, Yoshi, Reina, Eddie, Lili
Majin still the coolest dude. Always an inspiration
It would be interesting to see your thoughts on the tier list of Tekken 8. But yeah I agree King is knocked down a bit but still top 10. Thanks Majin!
I picked up feng as my secondary. I'm a king rank Jack main and picking up feng is really difficult for me so I'll probably give king a shot :)
Would love to see you compete again majin!❤
Where are you majin 😢
Hello Lil majin 😺💕 I like to see Craig and armor king story line I bet is interesting
i'm not sure how you counterhit using df 2,1 but based on the number of frames, it's not humanly possible to do it with just the counterhit spark. i just let it rip when i felt like i see the opponent looked like they pushed a button. At max delay, you can only press the 1 after 26 frames. and since the startup of df 2 already eats ups 13 frames, you only have 13 frames to react to the spark, which isn't humanly possible. what are other people's techniques to hit confirm rather than through raw visuals?
Definitely enjoy this kind of content
One thing I like about JGR2 is that I can use it against people who like to duck RKO on reaction, since it's 5 frames faster and is pretty much unreactable. Not amazing by any means but def something I like to do.
Still sucks how they keep nerfing throws. I also wish that heat did a bit more for King besides giving him his super strong heat smash. Everyone else seems to get cool stuff. Why can't King?
That being said, I still love playing him and he is undoubtedly a strong character. Landing stuff like King's Bridge or Tombstone is pure dopamine.
Love your videos man, keep up the great work!
Armor jag sprint is actually crazy.
@@rpgtimefire All fun and games until they realise that they can just throw you out of it
@@UltimatViolet think pass the layer 1 level my friend. The biggest strengh of jag sprint and muscle armor is you make your opponent stop and think or commit to an action. Jag sprint stop like a yoshi player does the run and run away.
@@rpgtimefire What makes Muscle Armor good is the fact that the built-in follow up is a safe mid heat engager that is extremely plus on hit, which inherently leads to free, unchallengeable mix. Muscle Armor can also be cancelled into a bunch of shit, such as any of King's throws, hopkick, ffn2, or whatever else. It's practically impossible to whiff punish. Armored Jaguar Sprint adds very little and is more of a gimmick at low to mid ranks. On hit, most of Jaguar Sprint's options are solid, especially RKO since it's a tracking heat engager and JGR1 having guaranteed follow-ups. However you tend to risk losing your turn or getting hard punished should they guess correctly. The risk-reward isn't always in King's favor. And if you choose to cancel the run after doing it, you're stuck unable to do anything besides block for a bit.
@@rpgtimefire Jag sprint is still pretty bad. They can just jab you out of it. It's not like the counterplay actually requires brainpower.
The sprint itself also isn't really a mixup. RKO is completely reactable and the elbow isn't a mixup. People see the flash for the RKO and just duck and kill you. It's completely useless against high rank players.
Forget the sprint in general. You're better off using heat for his f21 whiff punish or his heat smash.
I feel like the way that most characters/players win games, king can't utilize. The amount of risk you have to always take and the amount of shit you are forced to block is too much. They need to #1 fix King's movement and oki for sure. Also idk about y'all I don't like f,F,2. Might be just me me but for 31? frames the reach seems lackluster, no? I'm curious to how other people use this move.
Exactly. So many carried plus frame boosted character that don't even need to think about defence plus with panic evasive moves is ridiculous. To be good with king you have to actually be good at tekken.
Nah leave king where he’s at, characters need weakness and strengths to give them identities just because the rest of the roster has certain things doesn’t mean he needs them as well. Despite his weaknesses he’s still a very strong character, He’s in a perfect spot, his entry level was definitely lowered but he’s still hard to master and takes a lot of skill at higher levels
did they make his grab combos way easier from tekken 7? i feel like i keep fuckin up the inputs but i still end up doing some form of the grab combo
Yes buffering grabs
will aim to be the best king in my country , Thankyou majin!
I'm still so upset they nerfed muscle buster. It feels so unnatural not being able to press back turn 4 after I land it.
Im trying to choose my second main. I’ve had dappled with multiple characters through from tekken 3 to 8.
Right now im in between Jin, Lee or King
You going to participate in Evo this year?
Id put king at #6 spot personally, his backdash is trash but i think ur underselling his backwards jaguar step, it covers a lot of distance and low crushes while doing so. I also dont think his wavedash is as useless as u make it out to be, seeing as how he can do grabs out of em and can do ff,n.2 out of it as a low mix.
Top 10 character for sure in my eyes
Nice vid though! Love that you give more substance to your opinions.
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I have a suggestion: who's the top 10 characters in tekken rn including king of course. I think the new characters are definitely in that top tier as well 🤷🏾🤷🏾♂️.
Does anyone know the inputs for the 80 damage combo?
Cant for the life of me transition from the 2 to the f f3. Wondering if I’m getting something wrong.
I don’t play King but I notice big differences when I go against him. Aside from getting caught in a throw, you can easily work King into trouble.
Does anyone know the track from 16:51?!
song @16:43 ?
Очень много всего подчерпываю с твоих видео, спасибо❤
Thanks 😊
Nice 😎
Hey brother! Hope you're well. Could you please make a video on King's top 10 best moves, and King's top worst moves like did you on tekken 7? God bless.
I wanna know what you think they'd have to do to make Armor King viable in T8 as an option. King has a lot of AKs moves and now has an easy wavedash
at this rate he very well may not get in
Either armor king doesn’t make it or we get a completely new version of him. Which I think is most likely the case, Lidia and eddy both changed drastically
The biggest king isse is: everyone know this matchup 👀
I think they nerf muscle buster,f3:1+2 and b3:1+2 oki maybe because using f2+3 heat enganger as okizeme because it is guarantee if enemy wake up backward and any get up kick.
Best stage music
Man, that instant tornado thing is real 😂. Shoot I can barely get past the purple rank with king in ranks. Ppl really know how to play against king players. And it's worse if I'm playing against an amateur king player with someone like Jun
I think what you tell me too!! Your the pro 😂😂
Good afternoon good brother
king is KING but i need to work on my execution, and better combos. like the two combos in this video. combos videos
If you look at the overall changes from tekken 7, he definitely got the shorter end of the stick compared to the rest of the roster. Lost oki from most of his throws, movement worsened (was already bad) and what did he gain? A gimmicky stance and running armor that aren't viable at higher levels. A real shame that bamco bent over to the knee jerk reactions of the playerbase instead of letting the meta settle a bit
Best armor in the game. Scariest wall pressure. Biggest back dash and with SS buff being big isn't that bad. One of the best CH. Blue spark throw maintains 10/9 frame to break window. Def not the short end of the stick. Devil jin got the short end of the stick.
@@rpgtimefire Uh, King does not have scary wall pressure relative to the rest of the cast. He may even have among the worst wall pressure due to how ST oki works.
King in Tekken 7 had a better backdash, better CH combos, BK combos and setups, much better oki and a much better wall game. T7 King was a better overall character than T8 King is.
Blue spark throws only have the reduced break window on CH and while the increased damage is nice, he actually got more damage overall in T7 due to the fact that his post-throw oki was better after iSW, TT, MB, and TS.
@@thefabledenglishman6000 really who kills you more for ducking at the wall ? Also everyone had better ch king is the only one who retained most of his ch utility. Wall pressure is more then oki. And king is more then oki now. Even tho he finally has a legit wall ender that leaves him like plus 6. He can actually play neutral without dying and its way easier to setup throws in this game. I said blue spark is short ch. He actually does more damage now because health is lower.
Who else has a confirmable 13frame ch launch mid. A launch at the wall ch 9frame push. Ch whole rising chop. Also hit confirmable. Convict that might as well be safe. Also in this game rolling sobat hits so low his worse match ups have been made way easier. Shining actually gives you more nasty oki cause of deadly boomerrang. Im t7 he was in constant fear if being rushed down now he has the best get off me power crushs that all lead to ch follow ups. All this couple with adding extra damage at the wall for oki. Guaranteed ally kick off regular hit convict kick or it can wall splat. Wave dash for the mix on okay so people can't just step you. Plus easy gut punch input which has always been super cursed. Like come on bruh t7 king in this game would die a horrible death. Also he can back dash out of stuff normal characters can't. Despite having the slowest back dash its so big he can literally just regular back dash away from strings. Its crazy.
@@rpgtimefire Er, every character in the game can kill you for ducking at the wall and most other characters have higher wall damage and can force genuine 50/50s. Yoshi, Bryan, Lili, Lee, Paul. These are characters with top tier wall games with loopable oki. King is a long way behind these characters and if he wants to maximise his damage with the wall throw he loses the wall completely. In T7, King's wall game was much better. He had GTs that were actually worth a damn, unblockable setups, cross-ups, triple GT setups, tech catches, you name it. All of that is gone in T8.
As for the rest of the stuff you mentioned, King had all of that in T7 - and it was all better in T7. Even iSW was better in T7 for oki because f3 and d3 always landed and he STILL had cross-up setups in that game. Dunno why you're mentioning convict kick so much, that shit is garbage and it has been for years at this point.
The only thing he really gained in T8 was his armour, and specifically muscle armour. And we're all using it because his movement is so poor.
King was not good in 7 bro
Is somebody able to explain how to execute a running giant swing like the jon ?
when you’re running you need to already buffer the arrow movement before you reach the opponent and press 1
Why short combos on king have more damage then the bigger combos
They don't. You should probably get your eyes checked.
have to practice punishing with throws for armors
I agree heat bursts needs to have less range
If we got better base movement instead of mishma dashes i think hed still be top 5. Top 3 A tiers, but not S/S+ anymore
Man, the f+4 trick for when they want to get up is amazing. I had a lot of trouble lately with people getting up in all sort if weird ways that would hit me, to the point that I was afraid of approaching anymore when they were down. But I just had a few matches in which I used f+4 and it worked so well!
The jaguar jump back is also, as you mentioned, quite risky. And I am tired of people being able to easily react to my jaguar sprint ending. They will literally duck or block around 80% of my attempts if they are a good player. Plus, some characters can actually just jab me and they will cancel my attack before I even get to do it, wtf...
After getting side-stepped like crazy I tried to do the same thing with my enemies but I always get wrecked if they spam, it's quite sad.
Thanks for sharing! Everything here was very informative. King is the only character I play ever since I saw you playing him.
Great video. Very informative!
Tracking throws in general really hurt King
Harada should add armor king
Yeah that backwards JS needs to be fixed period.
imagine if in season 2 they give king a back dash😂
I guess they need to do something about his movement because it’s not fair that I’m better at movement but I can’t use it
Goat Majin!
king will always be on the top rank characters, it's non-negotiable
I think he was arguable top 5 prepatch, but definitely not now. I think people are overestimating him way too much. I know people don't understand the character when they say that king's new crouch dash is a buff.
It's still a wavu.
I hope they revert that crouch dash change, it doesn’t make sense for his character at all
Is Lil Majin on a break..?
Hopefully at evo
He going to evo?
Fighting king is a great learning experience and pretty fun for me imo feels good leaving with the win or breaking throws
I like king moves king of beasts
I play with iron king though