The book time on labor is spot on actually. This engine looks simple and easy to work on until you actually tear into it! The dipstick and the transmission dipstick are almost guaranteed casualties. Information on this engine’s repair is very scarce as it’s mega reliable. There’s a very high likelihood the head will be good as this has the old school head gasket design with the black rings. David as soon as you see the head gasket you’ll know what I mean. Good luck with this one and keep up the good work.
@@DylanL69 do you remember the video Title? I saw him say a hybrid Lexus head gasket job was 6500 but it was because he bought a new short block and cooler....etc. but where is a video where he did a 2tr-fe head gasket? The weird thing to me about 2tr-fe head gaskets costing 6500 bucks is that I thought you could buy the whole engine from Japan for 4500. I know he said you can't buy just the long block from Toyota of USA but I think people can buy whole engines from Japan.
@@hothmobile100 that was his latest one it was a month or 2 back and toyota doesn't sell long blocks at all the name of the video is the best toyota engine failed
The best part of that engine is calling the parts store looking for the water pump gasket and telling them you keep getting the wrong one so you need them to describe it to you.
TSS package is a dealership intalled package (mainly in the southern US states) added only to factory built SR5 tacomas, entails those T force wheels with all terrain tires, side steps that are "non toyota branded" usually and the rear unique bedside graphics. sometimes on later ones they also added those 'rivited' pocket style bushwacker fender flares and more aggressive bedside graphics
The 2TR-FE are very common engines here in Mexico inside the 07-19 Toyota Hiace that is used as a Collective Taxi in most of the country, you can see street mechanics working with them in almost every corner, I have seen them doing replacements of head gaskets and other important things by the sidewalks.
@@yelapa999 yeah! people actually reffer the Hiace as "combi" because of the vw kombi that was used as commuter Taxi decades ago, the word just kept in the collective as a name to every van used as public transport, wether is a vw or not.
👏👏👏 Qué padre leer historia de aquí en este canal, me hiciste recordar los taxis con un bote de Nivea como luz interior sólo de recordar las combis y peseros.
@@musijljajaja es que soy de ciudad de México, cada miércoles que no circula mi Impala me toca usar combi y metro para ir al trabajo, una lastima que las micros están a punto de desaparecer también, la ciudad va a extrañar mucho el sonido de sus V8
@@victoria.beilstein996 sé perfecto que eres de aquí, ese conocimiento y esa historia sólo es de gente que tenemos cierta edad y que sabemos qué es el D. F. y que los tacos al pastor ya no son lo que eran antes jaja.
Head gaskets get killed by two main causes: 1. Not changing your coolant at recommended intervals. I have a Subaru Outback LL Bean with the 3.0 H6, and every two or three years it gets changed. My '14 Cayman S says five years between changes, and I had it done last year. On Sue Baru, I do it myself but the Porsche needs to be hooked to a PIWIS computer to properly bleed off all the air pockets. 2. Driving your car hard when the engine is cold. The head gasket is not properly sealed when cold, and combustion gasses can sometimes slip past it during high throttle high rpm conditions at this point. This erodes the gasket quickly and you are in the repair shop. Drive your car normally for the first few miles until the engine warms up if you can. Warm up idling is a waste, just drive normally with no hard acceleration. Great video! I wonder what killed the gasket on this Toyota....
@Flies2FLL very good advice! Yeah don’t go over 3000 RPM if your temperature gauge is still not reached the middle. Always follow that advice with my 2006 Matrix and my 1986 Camry. I do have to change the coolant in the Matrix though.
Your head gasket isn’t sealed when cold? That is dumb as hell to say and not true at all. Apparently you have done z we o engine work, especially a simple compression test
@@DanielJohnson-ec8rk First of all, it is obvious that you know nothing of engines and their construction. Your head bolts/nuts are not as tight as you think they are. They are tightened to a very specific torque for a REASON. Manufacturers do this on purpose. Why? Because of the expansion of the block and head due to heat. You see, if they were to really torque those things down, as the head and block expanded due to heat, the studs/bolts would either become stretched or pull out of the block all together, destroying the head seal. So they torque them to a certain torque in order to provide sufficient clamping force to keep the seal of the head gasket while cold, while leaving enough room for the head and block to expand when heated so that the studs aren't damaged. What happens is that when you floor the throttle with the engine cold, that low clamping force will allow some combustion gas under pressure to seep between the gasket and the metal surfaces. Doing this once or twice or a few times won't damage the head gasket, but doing it all the time will cause a spot to weaken and eventually the superheated gas will breach the seal and just like an earthen dam breaking, the head gasket will be quickly ruined. So yes, you can do a compression test when cold. But while the gasket will hold that tiny amount of pressure, if you force the gasket to try to seal against hot combustion gasses under pressure while cold, you WILL destroy it. -In your case, I highly recommend you purchase a book on reciprocating engines. I had a class in college at Embry-Riddle in which we discussed exactly these sorts of things, blown head gaskets et cetera. Oh yeah, fuck you very much by the way-
Reminds me of my sons truck. An ‘07 Tacoma club cab 2.7 that I bought from a friend who was the original owner. Bought it 5 years ago with 261K on it needing a head gasket. Only issues were: 1)He’d driven it quite a while with the bad gasket and steam damaged the head and 2)Toyota had a pending recall to replace the frame due to a potential to rust (there was no major frame rust and the body was perfect). We had Toyota replace the frame (and a bunch of associated items) for free and I picked up an engine from a wrecked truck with only 25K on it and dropped it in. That was more than 100K ago and she still runs like new. Best part was the engine only cost $2500 and I was able to do the job myself at home. Nice simple truck to work on!
My father passed away a couple of years ago, and his favorite truck that he left me was a 2010 standard cab Tacoma. What a good truck, and the sentimental value now is priceless. The issue with the truck that I remember him dealing with was water pump related. It was always running hot. When I finally got back around to looking at it and getting my mechanic on it, it was determined that it was a blown head gasket. He ran a gasket sealer through it, which was great until it wasn't. Eventually, the thermostat went bad, so the coolant wasn't getting to the engine, so it was running hot very quickly - had a big smokeout where I wasn't sure what was going on...I literally pulled over and ran as fast as I could. Because of the thermostat messing up, the coolant hose got too hot and popped off during driving. That caused the coolant to get everywhere under the hood, and that's where all the smoke came from. I would love to get the truck fixed properly for a good price. Looking at this video confirms what I thought - that it's a great truck, but if you're one of the unlucky ones to have yours not be so great in the long run, it's gonna cost you.
Made my day hearing this. I have a 2020 tacoma extended cab with a 2.7. Never has been in the salt. Garaged all winter. I drive my corolla in the winter time
Great vid! Excellent advice "Word of caution, just because it is a Toyota, it does not mean it wll not cost you a kidney to repair if you fail to keep proper maintainence on it".
Yep. All cars fail. Even Toyotas. I've been a Toyota owner for decades and all of my cars have had issues over time. We tend to keep them from cradle to grave. They last longer before having issues than other brands, but they do break. And when they do, it is very expensive.
The value on these Toyota Tacomas is INSANE!!!! Borrowed my dad's 2016 Tacoma to haul some crap and was thinking, hey this is pretty nice. Figured hell its 8 years old now, maybe they've come down in price a bit. Looked up a similar spec(2wd, SR5, extra cab, v6/tow package) and they are still $30,000!!!! Maybe 23-25k for one with 200k miles on it. Went to the Toyota website, a new 2023 truck configured the same was $35k. Dad said he paid $30k for that truck back in 2016. If you can live with the smaller cab/no options it makes WAY MORE SENSE to buy a new Tacoma.
I bought a used 1999 Tacoma SR5, TRD, from a neighbor, 72,000 miles, back in 2006 for $10,200. In February of this year, I was t-boned by a lady in a Tesla. Truck was totalled. 263,000 miles. Insurance cut me a check for $10,700. Problem is if I want to replace it with a similar truck, they are going for between $9,000-$12,000.
Moms 05 v6 4Runners head gasket blew. At 250k she asked me should I get a new 4Runner? I said do you want to pay $50,000 for a backup camera and boxy styling. Because it has the same power train. It’s now got 275k and can’t wait for our Colorado to Wisconsin road trip this summer. Love that truck
In my research on TSS, I’ve found that a large dealership in Texas has developed this TSS on Tundra and Tacoma, usually base model or SR5 models, typically wheels and tire combination, steps and that decal that has nothing to do with Toyota or TRD
For those wondering: Texas and Louisiana (maybe a Mississippi) is the only region in US that still exclusively buys vehicles through a distributor as opposed to Toyota directly. Gulf states Toyota supplies them, TSS is basically them taking a standard tacoma and throwing optional/tforce wheels and tires on them. My truck has these exact wheels and stickers on it. Also for some reason they will install a sport series metal badge on only the drivers door?
This video could be the manual for 4cyl Tacoma ownership, and the story of my life. Right down to the u-joints. I differed coolant change on my 05 5spMT pre-runner, inevitable overheating was misdiagnosed.we replaced fan, but damage was done. Went through same analysis of options, new&used market , and decided to drop in remanufactured short block, available summer 2020, and a new clutch. $7500 ,labor about $100/hr. All the recall work had been done including new frame & leaf springs, so it made sense. I think it's made dollars too. I have 28k on new motor,165k total on the truck and I plan on keeping it forever. The prospect of such major repair can be daunting, but often times is the way to go, especially if you have the advice of a wizard! Keep em serviced and keep on trucking.
These trucks are great. I actually bought a 2013 off-road a couple years ago. Only changed the oil regularly for 2 years and no issues. As a former Toyota dealer master tech, these and 4runners were the most mechanically sound, with the Tundra/Sequoia close behind.
I've been in this situation for over a year, with an 2006 Tacoma. This video was extremely helpful. My symptoms were a rough idle, which led to diagnosis of coolent in the #1 cylinder. The truck never overheated. Nobody could (or would) provide a reasonable explanation for the price of the 6K head gasket job. I mean, if they told me it included replacing the timing chain, it would have at least softened the blow! So I used Barrs Leak as a temporary fix, in contemplation of replacing the motor. Interestingly, I got a quote from Toyota for the bottom end $2,200, lower than the 3K mentioned in the video. Living in the San Francisco Bay area, I'm not used to that! While the oil is clean now, initially, it did show signs of water which, would be expected. I wonder how much that changes the viability of simply doing the head gasket?
That's why you always get a 2nd or 3rd opinion. My jeep was overheating a few years ago, so I took it to a shop, and the guy told me, "You have a blown head gasket, and your engine is trash,". That will be $6000, please, and thank you. Took it to another place, and I was told it was just trapped air in the cooling system. 😅 It just needed to burp, and what do you know? It was free of charge!
Wow! You must have been walking on clouds for the rest of the day! Of course, it looks like you're prettier than I am. They would have replaced my head gasket!🙃
@@Blakecryderman7244 every vehicle fails eventually. Not doing maintenance only shortens the time between the beginning of ownership and failure. These new engines use low friction piston rings and multi-displacement systems. Both tend to cause an engine to burn oil around 100,000 miles. Some designs fail at very low mileage and some make it out to over 100,000 but all designs eventually break. It's the nature of the beast when it comes to anything mechanical.
The rust belt eats all cars in about 20 years. A Toyota engine and transmission will likely last the entire time if people don't drive that much. But a Nissan/Hyundai/Fiat will likely fail in years 12 -15 or so. .
@@mitchhedberg4415 People in the south have no idea how good they have it as far as vehicles go. Road salt just kills vehicles. It's why you don't see a lot of the older reliable vehicles that guys like the wizard recommend, on the road up here unless they're kept in the garage in the winter.
You should talk to Amid from the Car Care Nut channel. He is a certified Toyota technician and he knows Toyota never offers reman engines because you can't sleeve the cylinders. And as long as the timing chain has its bright colors on the timing marks, the timing chain is still good and not overheated.
Do you have a video of this job actually doing it. I’m impressed watching you technicians do these big jobs. Thanks for posting. I have a Tacoma with the 4.0
A lot of JDM suppliers also do sell used low mileage engines from Japan I'm not sure if they use that engine in any vehicles over there but usually they give you like a 90-day warranty
years ago i got a 2006 ford explorer at auction for my personal use that had blown cam phasers the spring broke and went through the valve cover but the engine ran well i should have known better as it was a repo it was intentionally done the ford 4.6 is not as known as a problem with with the 3 valves as the 5.4 are however they do not like being over heated and they had done that to this one and the sticker shock i got to repair the heads was sicking i can only imagine what it would be today so i put a low mileage engine in an you just can’t do that on Toyotas it’s most of the time the same price to get new i honestly love them for this because you take care of the maintenance they really give you little issues other people than service parts an wear and tear it’s really impressive
Did you and Eric over at South Main Auto Repair LLC coordinate your uploads this week? He had an overheating problem on his channel today too... so it was kind of cool to see both of you walk through a diagnosis using similar tools.
@@davehorlacher - no... actually he didn't repair it. He had a car that overheated only after building compression/temps. I don't even know if he plans to do the repair... or if the customer wants him to. He just diagnosed it when everyone was telling him it was the cap, or a clogged radiator, or a water pump... Anyway... very similar. The Wizard is actually going to repair it.
Back around 2000 I remember putting a head gasket, water pump and timing chain, etc in my 88 Toyota 4x4 4cyl for under 500$. 20 hours seems like an incredibly high amount of labor hours, but, that's what the book says...
I did head gaskets on my GM 6.5L diesel last year - parts cost was about $1200, almost half of which was machine shop cost to resurface the heads and install some sleeves for a known issue (and they cleaned all of the EGR guck out of the intake too - they had to put it in the hot tank 3 times he said). I replaced a lot more than I needed to while I was in there - new glow plugs, new radiator hoses, new water pump - I took the injectors apart, cleaned them, and inspected the internal parts under a microscope, etc etc. It took me quite a while, but the only cost for the labor was a bunch of swearing, and rolling around on the driveway taking the exhaust apart so I could get the heads off with the exhaust manifolds attached.
The Toyota timing chains have paint marks on them. If the paint is still visible on the chain, the chain is reusable. If the paint has faded, replace it. Easiest way to check if the chain has overheated/stretched.
Would love a follow up video after its repaired showing the full price and the actual amount of labor is involved. Having a 21 with the 2tr-fe 2.7 which i plan to keep for a long time always like to know more about the mostly bulletproof 4cyl
Yeah, the labor time is set very high because most mechanics can't work on anything anymore, I had to tell a dealer show what was wrong with my truck, after they tried to fix it 3 times, the good thing is they did not charge me for the work they did trying to fix it. it was running bad at idle or when you stopped at a light but ran OK down the road. man, they changed a lot of sensors, then said it was the catalytic converter and changed that, it still did the same thing, so I broke the rule and told them that I was thinking it could be the torque converter. and they sent it to a transmission shop and what do you know, it was and at 200k miles let's do a transmission rebuild, so I paid for that, I did have a good Warranty.
I remember doing quite a few head gaskets on the old toyota 4 cylinder engines like the 22re even the 20r 22r etc.. those seemed to commonly blow head gaskets ive done more than i can count. I even had one beater truck i took the head off of and replaced a rod and piston too with a used one from the wrecking yard no new parts other than gaskets and seals and miscellaneous and ive never done anything like that before usually im super picky but that was fun for a change i paid 50 dollars for the truck and cobbled it together over a weekend for like 150 or 200 dollars including oil and everything and that sucker ran and ran for years i saw it driving around for a very long time. I ended up giving the truck to someone and they used it to run around for their little coffee shop cafe thing it was one of the funky old 2 wheel drive dually supposed 1 ton pickups so it was pretty recognizable i wouldn't be surprised if it was still running around with one re-homed adopted piston. Lol.
I love these videos! It amazes me how "professionals" can get it wrong. But me Mr DIY hardly ever gets it wrong because I do the diagnostic work instead of shooting the parts cannon at it. Have a great weekend brother!
Is it worth it? Hell Yes! if the rest of the truck is solid. It's crazy to think it will take 20 hours to complete the job, but I trust AMD from the CCN channel (who, by the way, speaks highly of the Car Wizard) and he also commented on this video.
I've been through several truck brands (GMs, Fords .. etc) then I had a chance to buy a '15 Tundra, I was so angry that I didn't start with a Tundra and kept myself there! .. Toyota really knows how to build a durable and reliable truck!
Great video on the alternatives for repair (not always a clear-cut answer), plus a clear-eyed look at the cost. Also, great logic on why spending $6,000 to repair this truck makes economic sense.
Just speculation, but the previous shop may have be bitten by a 2AZ head gasket that went south on the tech, or the shop. The aluminum-block Toyota engines will pull the threads out of the block if the engine was overheated severely. The 2.7 isn't bad for that, though. I'd slap a gasket/timing set on it, and have the head checked by a reputable machine shop, and it should be good for another 200k.
This is a great video. However, who came up with the cryptic title?! How about: "Blown head gasket on a 2.7 L Toyota Tacoma. Diagnosis and fixes!". I have this exact problem (no, my never overheated), and the video was extremely helpful. An avid Tacoma enthusiast shared it with me. I would have never found it in a million, years given the title.
Engine rebuilders often use melt tabs with their heads and blocks; warranty is voided if the tabs melt.. If the 225F tab is melted, but the 250 melt tab is not: the coolant must have gotten over 225F, and for a sustained period. This sort of overheating often goes unnoticed, and does not necessarily result in the coolant boiling over or immediate engine damage. Even still, it could lead to an eventual, premature failure of the engine in the way of a failed water jacket seal or burned valve, for example. If the 225F and the 250F tabs are both melted, there must have been a very severe and noticeable overheating episode involving coolant boiling-over. This type of event typically does not go unnoticed. Depending on how quickly the engine is shut down, severe engine damage may or may not occur. But once the coolant boils (turns into a gas), there is nothing to absorb the energy the 1500 degree combustion gasses are generating and rarely does it not lead to severe, if not catastrophic engine damage.
My 1993 discovery with the 4 cylinder gasoline engine also had a blown head gasket. However it never overheated unless under high load. It did pump loads of pressure into the cooling system and burst a radiator hose. I suspect the lack of overheating is because of how massive the radiator is compared to the engine (the radiator is basically the same as the one on the v8 models). After getting the head gasket done she's not overheating even when under high load so that's good. Edit: my disco also had a failed water pump when i got it so... coincidence? I think not!
@@laurat1129yes and specifically the issue of overheating only occuring under load when there is more pressure in the cooling system to push through the damaged head gasket, so still relevant.
Just LS swap it for a couple grand 😄 I hope there is a part 2 of this or a video on Danielsons channel that shows the amount of work, because 20 hours is insane
Yeah, I would take my 2002 Sierra 1500HD 6.0 any day over risking having to pay that much for a head gasket on a 4 cyl Toyota. Also, my GMC has 240,000 miles on it. The only issue that it ever had was a 4L80E trans replacement at 200,000 miles. It has always been used for heavy towing as well, Campers, Boats etc.
Yah- -from lizard sand that the agent had everything easy to get to kind of flies in the face of a $6,000 quote. However, as an owner of a 1999 Toyota Solara 3.0 L V6 automatic, I tend to know what it means that Toyota parts are pricey. Over $159.00 dollars for a rear motor mount w/bushing.
My 2022 Tacoma has the same 2.7 2tr-fe. It’s torque-y (especially in 4-low) but slow. Generally these are bulletproof power plants, but there’s always exceptional circumstances.
Hi, the steering wheel right hand blanking plate is where the controls would be for the enhanced digital display in the instrument cluster. My Yaris has conventional dials and blanking plate, my wife’s (later model) has a digital display between the dials. Options are speed, fuel consumption (live), overall trip info, audio controls etc. the controls are a small 4 way cursor switch and a return button.
Fun fact Wizard- a frame replacement on this very same truck for warranty time with brake lines and everything 5 years ago was over 18,000 in parts and only about 40 hours of labor!
40 hours is what they cut it down to and what they still pay today for frame replacements on the K0D recall. The older frame replacements paid 60 from what I've heard from techs that were with Toyota in that time frame. Problem is that most shops threw two guys at a frame, they'd powerhouse it in a day and walk away with 30 hours each. Toyota saw those warranty time punches and went "Oh hell no, not on our dollar!"
My coworker got his frame replaced under warranty, he was talking about selling the truck afterwards I told him he's a fuckin madman. Its a brand new truck at this point. He still has it
@@philb707 My 03 Taco got a new frame in 2007, sadly, 10 years later and it was getting rotting again yet the body still has no rust. It's bad enough now that I'm gonna have to begin doing some cutting and welding...
The new frames had the same problems as the old ones? If I was toyota I galvanised all the new frames just to keep the good reputation. I had my old lexus es300 from 95 with 200k miles just checked out and there was 0 rust. So toyota IS capable to build something good :)
I purchased a civic from a dealer. Took it for a test drive. Everything seemed fine and drove great. Drove it to my dad's on back roads. It's still fine. Started driving it home on the highway, and after about 50 miles, it was overheating due to the head gasket being bad. The guy did pay my dad and brother to fix it and the tow home. I was working 50-60 hours a week and unable to do it myself.
In the current, 3rd gen, TSS is the name for Toyotas Safety System (front grille sensor, lane mitigation, lane departure, etc) I believe they use SX for the base SR package they used to called the TSS package you see here. This was southern thing IIRC, think originated in Texas - on the bSR trim, I believe someone told me it was to spruce up the SR model so they didn’t fell left out by not having a TRD package and decals LOL - def sounds ridic.
2TR-FE You can find it all over in UAE. Toyota Hiace is the most sold and the most crashed / casualties leader in Dubai. You can find this engine for around Dhs 5-6k in excellent condition. I bet even grocery stores have it
It's definitely a different world when it's worth it to put $6K or more into a 10 year old fairly basic pickup. As crazy as $25K for a similar one in good condition is, it's more like $50K for a new one. Hopefully they didn't run it much while overheated and the head won't need to be replaced or any other additional work. It's also amazing how much else has to be replaced these days when doing a head gasket, but you definitely don't want to try to "save" a few dollars by skipping those other items.
New cars are trash, even big ones. They put small turbo-charged engines for the sake of efficiency, emissions, and lower fuel consumption, but they are unreliable and cost a fortune to fix. Result, people buy new cars after three years. So much for the environment. Give an old Toyota truck for $20K over a new truck for $50K any day. Actually, give me a new Hybrid Toyota Corolla. Hopefully will be as reliable as they are cracked up to be.
Great video wizard a lot of people don't realize with things cost nowadays it's not a small block Chevy and you're right those engines rarely ever fail and water pump and kill it have a great day I'll keep watching I enjoy your videos very educational I may be old and retired I still want to learn about new stuff I don't know if I mentioned it but the 2024 Buick Skylark is incredibly beautiful might be the coolest looking car ever have a great day
I used to work treating water for boiler/heat exchangers .Everyone should know where the water comes from that they put in their cooling system . The city where I live sources water from wells . I do not use well water or other high mineral water .Over time the minerals will degrade the cooling effectiveness of the water system .I learned this the hard way.Scale build up happens .Now I get water from a rain barrel(filtered through a coffee filter).Or I would recommend buying the coolant with the D I water already mixed in .
Well, I just had my Daughter's Dodge Durango fixed (still more to do) ( Colorado) at a "reputable shop" there. It had something to do with leaking oil and causing the computer to put the vehicle in "limp" mode! She has been driving it for about 10 years now and besides tires and oil changes, hasn't done anything to it at all!! The shop quoted me $2400.00! as the repair requires that the engine (intake) needed to be taken off in order to fix it! I figure that at todays costs, it would be way cheaper to spend the $$$$ to have it fixed than buy some "Dirt Bag" used vehicle that might need more than her car did!!! Plesent Surprise!! It costs $2200! when finished! The shop gave it at least 3 driving test of 10 miles or more to make sure it was fixed and the parts used were from NAPA and had a 3 year/36,000 mile Nationwide Warranty!! My Daughter said it had way more "get up and go!" now!
Unlike cars from the 50s to the 70s, there are no easy fixes on cars. This is by design as governments all over want to end personal transportation, so that is why cars are under constant government attack. Have you not noticed that?
@@jayjaynella4539 No haven't noticed government attack. However, I have noted the demands imposed on car companies by customers. Customers wan't a car that is cheap to purchase, runs on the smell of an oily rag, requires no maintenance, has the power and torque of a 7.2 litre V8 engine of the late 1960s, contains every option conceivable that can be activated by a simple push of a button, and reverts to a soft cushion cocoon when that car is crashed. Can't be that hard - right?
Good luck getting it fixed. Service and replacement parts are pretty low on the list of priorities Chrysler and its present owner consider for those owning their products. Sell em and forget em has been their policy for way too long.
TSS is a “Gulf States” Toyota Sport Series package on top of the SR5 package. Wheels, larger tires, running boards, spray in bed liner (Tundra) bed lights, TSS stickers, and floor mats. Other areas of the country have similar such as the “SX” series.
The TSS Sport thing is a package by the distributor. There are three distributors in the USA. Toyota Motor Sales, Gulf States Toyota and Southeastern Toyota. This is a package done by either Gulf States or SE Toyota. Most likely Gulf States. What is included or added I do not know.
Something tells me that working on the 22RE in my '86 4Runner might be at least slightly less pricey than this 2.7. Not that I'd mind a 2.7 manual regular cab to run around in.
I miss the old days. My 77 Corolla blew a head gasket. No fancy diagnosis needed, bubbles in the radiator. I drove my dad's car to the parts store and got a new gasket. Less than an hour later, I was driving it. Less than $50 total. Admittedly, we ran an import shop out of the garage and I was pretty fast under the hood for an 18 year old.
I worked with Toyota in the south east region. South East Toyota, and Southern Toyota (Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missippi.) Are owned by companies seperate from Toyota. The regions are managed by companies approached in the late 60's to help introduce toyota to the us when people were still pissed about ww2. Jim Moran built SET. His company still survives today. Toyota tried to buy the rights back for the region in the early 90's. Jim said "90 billion and its yours"
@@Blakecryderman7244 A clean engine is a happy engine. If u have grease all over, it's like frying an egg. PLUS, it makes working on your car ALOT BETTER. Can't be dumb, been doing it for 50yrs! 🤔
If that was an overhead valve engine. It would be an easy decision to replace the headgasket. Overhead cam and vvt, are nice but sure makes things more complex and more expensive.
The CA governor signed a bill which requires new vehicles to be EV only. If this goes into effect, older cars will be worth it to spend money on more than you are seeing now. If I had the room for storage, I would be saran wrapping a few and wait for the day it really gets tight used car wise.
I think you can pretty much guarantee eventually CA will sign a bill to BAN all petrol cars from the roads, no matter what year!! You guys keep voting the same way, and expect things to change for the better, and wonder why they dont.
I ordered a 2022 Tacoma with that exact intent, I do use it for work though. Strange times, CA is a bit messed up with its timing, it will bite them in the ass. And why are so many people leaving CA 😉
I have a 2012 Tacoma and what’s missing on the steering wheel is the voice control for the navigation. With that package you also got an automatic garage door opener as well but it’s on the rear view mirror so you still get two sunglass holders for whatever reason 😂
What an informative video... would the customer be better off buying a second hand Toyota to replace this one as they do not break down often and hopefully the next one will last forever ... well at the current market value... not going to happen... maybe in a year or so when all the covid logistics issues are are thing of the past it might be ?
Eric at South Main Auto just checked a Chrysler 200 today with that kit. It failed the test. I'm shocked that Alex from LegitStreetCars missed the head gasket on his Ford Lightning. He had freaking chocolate milk in his overflow reservoir. I think he's a really good mechanic, so I was really surprised.
It's pretty obvious when there is goop in the coolant res.... Only other cause for that would be a failed trans cooler or oil cooler, so you have to be real suspicious if you have overheating AND see expansion tank oil.
@@volvo09ord used a coolant/oil filter or sender bracket that varied according to the vehicle. They fail and you replace the gasket. You have to flush the radiator a lot after fixing the problem.
A crack in the windshield is a huge safety issue. The passenger airbag uses the windshields strength to hold the bag in place in a collision when the passenger is bouncing into it. Cracked glass allows the bag to push through the glass, doesn't hold the passenger as it should, can get cut and deflate doing nothing.
The other shop was not wrong for their quote when you consider all that must be replaced on this engine .... there are risks with both shop quotes. 1. Replace engine with a salvage engine... no history of the engine. 2. Wizard quote risk problems once you tare into the engine... the upside is you know the history... it doesn't use oil...
Here's a news flash.... if you develop a crack in a head gasket, reach for a can of Bars Head Gasket Sealer, follow the directions to the letter and worry no more. That stuff really does work!
Two uncles driving their own taxis in Hampshire. One choose a 2003 Avensis d, the other a 2003 Vectra 1.8. Both drained the Boxes after 1000 miles, (good move in the GM gearbox, factory fill's poor quality) then took them up to 300,000 miles. The Toyota needed a new box at 190,,000, two AC compressors, a rack, an alternator, 4 wheel bearings,, a head gasket, fuel pump and injectors, a starter and two flywheels. The GM product needed one compressor, new banana arms, an alternator and two wheel bearings.
My Ford Windstar blew a head gasket, as they all did inevitably, and the symptom was it would not warm up to operating temperature. I had no hot air coming out of the ducts.
My daughter drove the 4 cylinder 2010 sr5 double cab for 8 years, bought with 29k drove to 115k at that point she was tired of shifting and started using my wife’s car as she no longer drove. Sold that for the Toyota cross which is an awesome suv . Keep telling them Toyota Toyota Toyota.
I know the older ones I have a crazy belt pattern and three or more idler pulleys with rollerskate style bearings. I’ve seen these rust and catch the belt, then burn up another new belt. Hard to replace the bolt if it gets bent just replace it with the same grade or you might be giving yourself more problems. You can pay 10 bucks at the auto parts store or $.75 at a hardware store for the same bolt.
From my understanding, on new Toyotas. The water pumps tend to fail earlier than what they use to. One of the. Theories I've heard, is because of the newer long life coolant not requiring as frequent changes as the older stuff being the possible culprit of the earlier water pump failures on Toyotas.
😊.... Well, I went through 2 radiators with high mileage vehicles they clog up internally and need replaced. Sounds like that is what contributed to the over temp.. hot engine = angry aluminum head warping. This also might be remedied proactively by installing a performance or higher capacity radiator. The manufacturer matches exactly without margin of error.
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The book time on labor is spot on actually. This engine looks simple and easy to work on until you actually tear into it! The dipstick and the transmission dipstick are almost guaranteed casualties. Information on this engine’s repair is very scarce as it’s mega reliable. There’s a very high likelihood the head will be good as this has the old school head gasket design with the black rings. David as soon as you see the head gasket you’ll know what I mean. Good luck with this one and keep up the good work.
Didn’t you just do one of these?
@@retiredafce3373 yes I did. But it was for oil burning in addition to head gasket leak
@@TheCarCareNut yes that’s right. Thank you.
TheCarCareNut is hands down the best there is, yes I'm a Toyota owner and love all your quality work and knowledge.
As soon as I clicked on this video I thought of you!
The car car nut did this a couple months ago. It was an interesting job and it did take him (a Toyota technician) close to 20 hours
Was just thinking the same thing. I watched that video too
On this 2TR-FE or you mean on a 6 cylinder? Got a link to the video?
@@hothmobile100 was the 2 tr fe 4cyl
@@DylanL69 do you remember the video Title? I saw him say a hybrid Lexus head gasket job was 6500 but it was because he bought a new short block and cooler....etc. but where is a video where he did a 2tr-fe head gasket? The weird thing to me about 2tr-fe head gaskets costing 6500 bucks is that I thought you could buy the whole engine from Japan for 4500. I know he said you can't buy just the long block from Toyota of USA but I think people can buy whole engines from Japan.
@@hothmobile100 that was his latest one it was a month or 2 back and toyota doesn't sell long blocks at all the name of the video is the best toyota engine failed
The best part of that engine is calling the parts store looking for the water pump gasket and telling them you keep getting the wrong one so you need them to describe it to you.
TSS package is a dealership intalled package (mainly in the southern US states) added only to factory built SR5 tacomas, entails those T force wheels with all terrain tires, side steps that are "non toyota branded" usually and the rear unique bedside graphics.
sometimes on later ones they also added those 'rivited' pocket style bushwacker fender flares and more aggressive bedside graphics
Port installed not dealer installed. Gulf states Toyota mainly.
I have the TSS package and I have a SR.
Good comment, saw that TSS and was like "What in the world is that??"
Yep, my 1999 taco had it fresh from Florida
Enkei 14 inch wheels, bucket seats and console, and decal package
dont go into water unless you have the frame recall done, your life worth more than a pos toyota
i love how you guys politely review the car before explaining how bad or not "the other shop" is
The 2TR-FE are very common engines here in Mexico inside the 07-19 Toyota Hiace that is used as a Collective Taxi in most of the country, you can see street mechanics working with them in almost every corner, I have seen them doing replacements of head gaskets and other important things by the sidewalks.
So right! Mexico is all about the Toyotas and the good kind of VW equipment. Ha!
@@yelapa999 yeah! people actually reffer the Hiace as "combi" because of the vw kombi that was used as commuter Taxi decades ago, the word just kept in the collective as a name to every van used as public transport, wether is a vw or not.
👏👏👏 Qué padre leer historia de aquí en este canal, me hiciste recordar los taxis con un bote de Nivea como luz interior sólo de recordar las combis y peseros.
@@musijljajaja es que soy de ciudad de México, cada miércoles que no circula mi Impala me toca usar combi y metro para ir al trabajo, una lastima que las micros están a punto de desaparecer también, la ciudad va a extrañar mucho el sonido de sus V8
@@victoria.beilstein996 sé perfecto que eres de aquí, ese conocimiento y esa historia sólo es de gente que tenemos cierta edad y que sabemos qué es el D. F. y que los tacos al pastor ya no son lo que eran antes jaja.
please make the update video for this one , would be nice to see how it turned out in the end :)
Head gaskets get killed by two main causes:
1. Not changing your coolant at recommended intervals. I have a Subaru Outback LL Bean with the 3.0 H6, and every two or three years it gets changed. My '14 Cayman S says five years between changes, and I had it done last year. On Sue Baru, I do it myself but the Porsche needs to be hooked to a PIWIS computer to properly bleed off all the air pockets.
2. Driving your car hard when the engine is cold. The head gasket is not properly sealed when cold, and combustion gasses can sometimes slip past it during high throttle high rpm conditions at this point. This erodes the gasket quickly and you are in the repair shop. Drive your car normally for the first few miles until the engine warms up if you can. Warm up idling is a waste, just drive normally with no hard acceleration.
Great video! I wonder what killed the gasket on this Toyota....
@Flies2FLL very good advice! Yeah don’t go over 3000 RPM if your temperature gauge is still not reached the middle. Always follow that advice with my 2006 Matrix and my 1986 Camry. I do have to change the coolant in the Matrix though.
good advice. I start up and leave immediately but drive like a slow turtle until the coolant is at full operating temperature here in TN.
Your head gasket isn’t sealed when cold? That is dumb as hell to say and not true at all.
Apparently you have done z we o engine work, especially a simple compression test
@@DanielJohnson-ec8rk First of all, it is obvious that you know nothing of engines and their construction.
Your head bolts/nuts are not as tight as you think they are. They are tightened to a very specific torque for a REASON. Manufacturers do this on purpose. Why? Because of the expansion of the block and head due to heat. You see, if they were to really torque those things down, as the head and block expanded due to heat, the studs/bolts would either become stretched or pull out of the block all together, destroying the head seal. So they torque them to a certain torque in order to provide sufficient clamping force to keep the seal of the head gasket while cold, while leaving enough room for the head and block to expand when heated so that the studs aren't damaged.
What happens is that when you floor the throttle with the engine cold, that low clamping force will allow some combustion gas under pressure to seep between the gasket and the metal surfaces. Doing this once or twice or a few times won't damage the head gasket, but doing it all the time will cause a spot to weaken and eventually the superheated gas will breach the seal and just like an earthen dam breaking, the head gasket will be quickly ruined.
So yes, you can do a compression test when cold. But while the gasket will hold that tiny amount of pressure, if you force the gasket to try to seal against hot combustion gasses under pressure while cold, you WILL destroy it.
-In your case, I highly recommend you purchase a book on reciprocating engines. I had a class in college at Embry-Riddle in which we discussed exactly these sorts of things, blown head gaskets et cetera.
Oh yeah, fuck you very much by the way-
@@Flies2FLL hey idiot? TTL head bolts. Made to stretch upon installation not when at operating temperature.
Reminds me of my sons truck. An ‘07 Tacoma club cab 2.7 that I bought from a friend who was the original owner. Bought it 5 years ago with 261K on it needing a head gasket. Only issues were: 1)He’d driven it quite a while with the bad gasket and steam damaged the head and 2)Toyota had a pending recall to replace the frame due to a potential to rust (there was no major frame rust and the body was perfect). We had Toyota replace the frame (and a bunch of associated items) for free and I picked up an engine from a wrecked truck with only 25K on it and dropped it in. That was more than 100K ago and she still runs like new. Best part was the engine only cost $2500 and I was able to do the job myself at home. Nice simple truck to work on!
At least the owner can write off the repair costs as a business expense.
My father passed away a couple of years ago, and his favorite truck that he left me was a 2010 standard cab Tacoma. What a good truck, and the sentimental value now is priceless. The issue with the truck that I remember him dealing with was water pump related. It was always running hot. When I finally got back around to looking at it and getting my mechanic on it, it was determined that it was a blown head gasket. He ran a gasket sealer through it, which was great until it wasn't. Eventually, the thermostat went bad, so the coolant wasn't getting to the engine, so it was running hot very quickly - had a big smokeout where I wasn't sure what was going on...I literally pulled over and ran as fast as I could. Because of the thermostat messing up, the coolant hose got too hot and popped off during driving. That caused the coolant to get everywhere under the hood, and that's where all the smoke came from. I would love to get the truck fixed properly for a good price. Looking at this video confirms what I thought - that it's a great truck, but if you're one of the unlucky ones to have yours not be so great in the long run, it's gonna cost you.
Made my day hearing this. I have a 2020 tacoma extended cab with a 2.7. Never has been in the salt. Garaged all winter. I drive my corolla in the winter time
I do the same with my 21 tundra. Drive my accord in the salt , tundra stays in the garage for ab 3 months.
Great vid! Excellent advice "Word of caution, just because it is a Toyota, it does not mean it wll not cost you a kidney to repair if you fail to keep proper maintainence on it".
Yep. All cars fail. Even Toyotas. I've been a Toyota owner for decades and all of my cars have had issues over time. We tend to keep them from cradle to grave. They last longer before having issues than other brands, but they do break. And when they do, it is very expensive.
@@toddjamison77 I like Toyota and considering today's market price for used vehicles I would probably pay as much as $10k to keep one on the road.
@@Bdamazyn well gee, I could get another Tacoma for that
@@swamp-yankee What planet do you live on?
@@Bdamazyn the one where mine was 2k
Wow! A dipstick for the transmission! I wish my '07 V6 had one of those.
Just had our done for 2100 in Nebraska. It’s worth the drive. Lavanders automotive.
The value on these Toyota Tacomas is INSANE!!!! Borrowed my dad's 2016 Tacoma to haul some crap and was thinking, hey this is pretty nice. Figured hell its 8 years old now, maybe they've come down in price a bit. Looked up a similar spec(2wd, SR5, extra cab, v6/tow package) and they are still $30,000!!!! Maybe 23-25k for one with 200k miles on it. Went to the Toyota website, a new 2023 truck configured the same was $35k. Dad said he paid $30k for that truck back in 2016. If you can live with the smaller cab/no options it makes WAY MORE SENSE to buy a new Tacoma.
Yeah, I would love one but they aren't giving them away lol😂 even early 2000 to 2010 are pretty pricy
I bought a used 1999 Tacoma SR5, TRD, from a neighbor, 72,000 miles, back in 2006 for $10,200.
In February of this year, I was t-boned by a lady in a Tesla. Truck was totalled. 263,000 miles. Insurance cut me a check for $10,700.
Problem is if I want to replace it with a similar truck, they are going for between $9,000-$12,000.
Moms 05 v6 4Runners head gasket blew. At 250k she asked me should I get a new 4Runner? I said do you want to pay $50,000 for a backup camera and boxy styling. Because it has the same power train. It’s now got 275k and can’t wait for our Colorado to Wisconsin road trip this summer. Love that truck
In case you don't know, back up cams are really easy , and cheap, to add onto a car.
In my research on TSS, I’ve found that a large dealership in Texas has developed this TSS on Tundra and Tacoma, usually base model or SR5 models, typically wheels and tire combination, steps and that decal that has nothing to do with Toyota or TRD
For those wondering:
Texas and Louisiana (maybe a Mississippi) is the only region in US that still exclusively buys vehicles through a distributor as opposed to Toyota directly. Gulf states Toyota supplies them, TSS is basically them taking a standard tacoma and throwing optional/tforce wheels and tires on them. My truck has these exact wheels and stickers on it. Also for some reason they will install a sport series metal badge on only the drivers door?
@@Heyyo_Friday incorrect. Southeast Toyota is a distributor as well that covers the whole southeast. Similar to gulf states but much larger.
Toyota Sport Series you are correct it's just a different package.Catback exhaust,TSS floor mats and I think 17 inch rims
@@andybub45 learned something new today. I thought it was only gulf states left
I have a TSS Toyota SR and it's an off-road package for two-wheel drive trucks.
This video could be the manual for 4cyl Tacoma ownership, and the story of my life. Right down to the u-joints. I differed coolant change on my 05 5spMT pre-runner, inevitable overheating was misdiagnosed.we replaced fan, but damage was done. Went through same analysis of options, new&used market , and decided to drop in remanufactured short block, available summer 2020, and a new clutch. $7500 ,labor about $100/hr. All the recall work had been done including new frame & leaf springs, so it made sense. I think it's made dollars too. I have 28k on new motor,165k total on the truck and I plan on keeping it forever. The prospect of such major repair can be daunting, but often times is the way to go, especially if you have the advice of a wizard! Keep em serviced and keep on trucking.
Deferred
These trucks are great. I actually bought a 2013 off-road a couple years ago. Only changed the oil regularly for 2 years and no issues. As a former Toyota dealer master tech, these and 4runners were the most mechanically sound, with the Tundra/Sequoia close behind.
I've been in this situation for over a year, with an 2006 Tacoma. This video was extremely helpful.
My symptoms were a rough idle, which led to diagnosis of coolent in the #1 cylinder. The truck never overheated.
Nobody could (or would) provide a reasonable explanation for the price of the 6K head gasket job. I mean, if they told me it included replacing the timing chain, it would have at least softened the blow! So I used Barrs Leak as a temporary fix, in contemplation of replacing the motor. Interestingly, I got a quote from Toyota for the bottom end $2,200, lower than the 3K mentioned in the video. Living in the San Francisco Bay area, I'm not used to that!
While the oil is clean now, initially, it did show signs of water which, would be expected. I wonder how much that changes the viability of simply doing the head gasket?
That's why you always get a 2nd or 3rd opinion. My jeep was overheating a few years ago, so I took it to a shop, and the guy told me, "You have a blown head gasket, and your engine is trash,". That will be $6000, please, and thank you.
Took it to another place, and I was told it was just trapped air in the cooling system. 😅
It just needed to burp, and what do you know? It was free of charge!
Wow! You must have been walking on clouds for the rest of the day! Of course, it looks like you're prettier than I am. They would have replaced my head gasket!🙃
Every single car breaks 100% of the time. Some may take 150,000 to see it happen others literally take 500 miles but all machines have downtime.
That's what I keep telling my wife.
@Pike all depends how you take care of the vehicle as well.
@@Blakecryderman7244 every vehicle fails eventually. Not doing maintenance only shortens the time between the beginning of ownership and failure. These new engines use low friction piston rings and multi-displacement systems. Both tend to cause an engine to burn oil around 100,000 miles. Some designs fail at very low mileage and some make it out to over 100,000 but all designs eventually break. It's the nature of the beast when it comes to anything mechanical.
The rust belt eats all cars in about 20 years. A Toyota engine and transmission will likely last the entire time if people don't drive that much. But a Nissan/Hyundai/Fiat will likely fail in years 12 -15 or so. .
@@mitchhedberg4415 People in the south have no idea how good they have it as far as vehicles go. Road salt just kills vehicles. It's why you don't see a lot of the older reliable vehicles that guys like the wizard recommend, on the road up here unless they're kept in the garage in the winter.
You should talk to Amid from the Car Care Nut channel. He is a certified Toyota technician and he knows Toyota never offers reman engines because you can't sleeve the cylinders. And as long as the timing chain has its bright colors on the timing marks, the timing chain is still good and not overheated.
Do you have a video of this job actually doing it. I’m impressed watching you technicians do these big jobs. Thanks for posting. I have a Tacoma with the 4.0
A lot of JDM suppliers also do sell used low mileage engines from Japan I'm not sure if they use that engine in any vehicles over there but usually they give you like a 90-day warranty
years ago i got a 2006 ford explorer at auction for my personal use that had blown cam phasers the spring broke and went through the valve cover but the engine ran well i should have known better as it was a repo it was intentionally done the ford 4.6 is not as known as a problem with with the 3 valves as the 5.4 are however they do not like being over heated and they had done that to this one and the sticker shock i got to repair the heads was sicking i can only imagine what it would be today so i put a low mileage engine in an you just can’t do that on Toyotas it’s most of the time the same price to get new i honestly love them for this because you take care of the maintenance they really give you little issues other people than service parts an wear and tear it’s really impressive
Did you and Eric over at South Main Auto Repair LLC coordinate your uploads this week? He had an overheating problem on his channel today too... so it was kind of cool to see both of you walk through a diagnosis using similar tools.
Eric showed the repair, not talk about it.
@@davehorlacher - no... actually he didn't repair it. He had a car that overheated only after building compression/temps. I don't even know if he plans to do the repair... or if the customer wants him to. He just diagnosed it when everyone was telling him it was the cap, or a clogged radiator, or a water pump... Anyway... very similar. The Wizard is actually going to repair it.
Wrenching WIth Kenny uploaded with a similar problem today, as well.
Back around 2000 I remember putting a head gasket, water pump and timing chain, etc in my 88 Toyota 4x4 4cyl for under 500$. 20 hours seems like an incredibly high amount of labor hours, but, that's what the book says...
I did head gaskets on my GM 6.5L diesel last year - parts cost was about $1200, almost half of which was machine shop cost to resurface the heads and install some sleeves for a known issue (and they cleaned all of the EGR guck out of the intake too - they had to put it in the hot tank 3 times he said). I replaced a lot more than I needed to while I was in there - new glow plugs, new radiator hoses, new water pump - I took the injectors apart, cleaned them, and inspected the internal parts under a microscope, etc etc. It took me quite a while, but the only cost for the labor was a bunch of swearing, and rolling around on the driveway taking the exhaust apart so I could get the heads off with the exhaust manifolds attached.
There's alot more stuff on a 2013 compared to an 88, newer cars are alot more complicated when it comes to repairs.
I want to see a video of this job! You should detail it for everyone since it is such a rare problem.
The Toyota timing chains have paint marks on them. If the paint is still visible on the chain, the chain is reusable. If the paint has faded, replace it. Easiest way to check if the chain has overheated/stretched.
that's not going to work I need a new full retail price chain to make any uh... warranty on this
@@billmelcher625 I work at a Lexus dealership. We rarely ever sell timing chains. I've maybe sold 4-5 in the 7 years I've worked at the dealership.
Would love a follow up video after its repaired showing the full price and the actual amount of labor is involved. Having a 21 with the 2tr-fe 2.7 which i plan to keep for a long time always like to know more about the mostly bulletproof 4cyl
you can look at the care care nut he did one of these recently. Also would recommend following his advice on the maintenance schedules.
Really looking forward to the follow up video on this one.
Yeah, the labor time is set very high because most mechanics can't work on anything anymore, I had to tell a dealer show what was wrong with my truck, after they tried to fix it 3 times, the good thing is they did not charge me for the work they did trying to fix it. it was running bad at idle or when you stopped at a light but ran OK down the road. man, they changed a lot of sensors, then said it was the catalytic converter and changed that, it still did the same thing, so I broke the rule and told them that I was thinking it could be the torque converter. and they sent it to a transmission shop and what do you know, it was and at 200k miles let's do a transmission rebuild, so I paid for that, I did have a good Warranty.
I remember doing quite a few head gaskets on the old toyota 4 cylinder engines like the 22re even the 20r 22r etc.. those seemed to commonly blow head gaskets ive done more than i can count. I even had one beater truck i took the head off of and replaced a rod and piston too with a used one from the wrecking yard no new parts other than gaskets and seals and miscellaneous and ive never done anything like that before usually im super picky but that was fun for a change i paid 50 dollars for the truck and cobbled it together over a weekend for like 150 or 200 dollars including oil and everything and that sucker ran and ran for years i saw it driving around for a very long time. I ended up giving the truck to someone and they used it to run around for their little coffee shop cafe thing it was one of the funky old 2 wheel drive dually supposed 1 ton pickups so it was pretty recognizable i wouldn't be surprised if it was still running around with one re-homed adopted piston. Lol.
I love these videos! It amazes me how "professionals" can get it wrong. But me Mr DIY hardly ever gets it wrong because I do the diagnostic work instead of shooting the parts cannon at it. Have a great weekend brother!
First I'm in the UK so these are not sold.
The Tundra looks a beast!
Is it worth it? Hell Yes! if the rest of the truck is solid. It's crazy to think it will take 20 hours to complete the job, but I trust AMD from the CCN channel (who, by the way, speaks highly of the Car Wizard) and he also commented on this video.
I got a brand new 2023 Taco TRD Off-Road earlier this year for 37k. I'm feeling pretty good about that deal after seeing this.
Yeah I don't know where the wizard gets his used prices - up here you can get used Tacomas like this one without issues for about $12k.
37k? That’s a steel. Most dealers around me would list for $48-55k.
37k? That’s a steel. Most dealers around me would list for $48-55k.
Bought it near Baltimore...the dealership had several others selling for close to the same price in January.
I've been through several truck brands (GMs, Fords .. etc) then I had a chance to buy a '15 Tundra, I was so angry that I didn't start with a Tundra and kept myself there! .. Toyota really knows how to build a durable and reliable truck!
The 5.7L I-Force V8 in the Toyota Tundra is one heck of a beast and they'll definitely outlast any EcoBoost engine Ford makes with ease.
Great video on the alternatives for repair (not always a clear-cut answer), plus a clear-eyed look at the cost. Also, great logic on why spending $6,000 to repair this truck makes economic sense.
Just speculation, but the previous shop may have be bitten by a 2AZ head gasket that went south on the tech, or the shop. The aluminum-block Toyota engines will pull the threads out of the block if the engine was overheated severely.
The 2.7 isn't bad for that, though. I'd slap a gasket/timing set on it, and have the head checked by a reputable machine shop, and it should be good for another 200k.
Its crazy that this little 4 cylinder engine headgasket cost the same as a head gasket job on a LB7/LLY duramax
Crazy no one cares
@@flight2k5 I think everyone that owns the truck or considers owning one cares.
@@googolplex2789 is that somehow justo faction in your simple brain of how a duramax is a superior engine?
@@flight2k5 your brain is malfunctioning go talk to your doctor.
This is a great video. However, who came up with the cryptic title?! How about: "Blown head gasket on a 2.7 L Toyota Tacoma. Diagnosis and fixes!".
I have this exact problem (no, my never overheated), and the video was extremely helpful. An avid Tacoma enthusiast shared it with me. I would have never found it in a million, years given the title.
That’s a very nice truck! Hope all goes well! Tacoma pride! 🙌
Engine rebuilders often use melt tabs with their heads and blocks; warranty is voided if the tabs melt..
If the 225F tab is melted, but the 250 melt tab is not: the coolant must have gotten over 225F, and for a sustained period. This sort of overheating often goes unnoticed, and does not necessarily result in the coolant boiling over or immediate engine damage. Even still, it could lead to an eventual, premature failure of the engine in the way of a failed water jacket seal or burned valve, for example.
If the 225F and the 250F tabs are both melted, there must have been a very severe and noticeable overheating episode involving coolant boiling-over. This type of event typically does not go unnoticed. Depending on how quickly the engine is shut down, severe engine damage may or may not occur. But once the coolant boils (turns into a gas), there is nothing to absorb the energy the 1500 degree combustion gasses are generating and rarely does it not lead to severe, if not catastrophic engine damage.
My 1993 discovery with the 4 cylinder gasoline engine also had a blown head gasket. However it never overheated unless under high load. It did pump loads of pressure into the cooling system and burst a radiator hose. I suspect the lack of overheating is because of how massive the radiator is compared to the engine (the radiator is basically the same as the one on the v8 models). After getting the head gasket done she's not overheating even when under high load so that's good. Edit: my disco also had a failed water pump when i got it so... coincidence? I think not!
They don’t make a Tacoma with a V8. 😧
@@stomper2582 I believe the OP here is talking about his Land Rover Disco.
@@laurat1129yes and specifically the issue of overheating only occuring under load when there is more pressure in the cooling system to push through the damaged head gasket, so still relevant.
@@laurat1129 they never made a 4 cylinder gasoline engine for a discovery 1
@@mikemike690 FFS, read the 1st comment in this thread! Then tell it to the OP w/the LR Disco, not me.😑
Just LS swap it for a couple grand 😄
I hope there is a part 2 of this or a video on Danielsons channel that shows the amount of work, because 20 hours is insane
With the LS you'd have more power and probably better fuel economy
Yeah, I would take my 2002 Sierra 1500HD 6.0 any day over risking having to pay that much for a head gasket on a 4 cyl Toyota. Also, my GMC has 240,000 miles on it. The only issue that it ever had was a 4L80E trans replacement at 200,000 miles. It has always been used for heavy towing as well, Campers, Boats etc.
Yah-
-from lizard sand that the agent had everything easy to get to kind of flies in the face of a $6,000 quote.
However, as an owner of a 1999 Toyota Solara 3.0 L V6 automatic, I tend to know what it means that Toyota parts are pricey. Over $159.00 dollars for a rear motor mount w/bushing.
The garage door button is in the rearview mirror along with the back up camera.
My 2022 Tacoma has the same 2.7 2tr-fe. It’s torque-y (especially in 4-low) but slow. Generally these are bulletproof power plants, but there’s always exceptional circumstances.
Hi, the steering wheel right hand blanking plate is where the controls would be for the enhanced digital display in the instrument cluster.
My Yaris has conventional dials and blanking plate, my wife’s (later model) has a digital display between the dials. Options are speed, fuel consumption (live), overall trip info, audio controls etc. the controls are a small 4 way cursor switch and a return button.
Buick and the Toyota videos are the best would love to see more , thank you mr and mrs wizard
-Nellie
Petersburg VA
Fun fact Wizard- a frame replacement on this very same truck for warranty time with brake lines and everything 5 years ago was over 18,000 in parts and only about 40 hours of labor!
40 hours is what they cut it down to and what they still pay today for frame replacements on the K0D recall. The older frame replacements paid 60 from what I've heard from techs that were with Toyota in that time frame. Problem is that most shops threw two guys at a frame, they'd powerhouse it in a day and walk away with 30 hours each. Toyota saw those warranty time punches and went "Oh hell no, not on our dollar!"
My coworker got his frame replaced under warranty, he was talking about selling the truck afterwards I told him he's a fuckin madman. Its a brand new truck at this point. He still has it
@@philb707 My 03 Taco got a new frame in 2007, sadly, 10 years later and it was getting rotting again yet the body still has no rust. It's bad enough now that I'm gonna have to begin doing some cutting and welding...
The new frames had the same problems as the old ones? If I was toyota I galvanised all the new frames just to keep the good reputation. I had my old lexus es300 from 95 with 200k miles just checked out and there was 0 rust. So toyota IS capable to build something good :)
@@peterdevreter as far as I know the replacements were improved. Not sure how though
I purchased a civic from a dealer. Took it for a test drive. Everything seemed fine and drove great. Drove it to my dad's on back roads. It's still fine. Started driving it home on the highway, and after about 50 miles, it was overheating due to the head gasket being bad. The guy did pay my dad and brother to fix it and the tow home. I was working 50-60 hours a week and unable to do it myself.
Thank you for the video
Love that AMD from “The Car Care Nut” posted here very cool of him!
Can’t wait to see the work involved
In the current, 3rd gen, TSS is the name for Toyotas Safety System (front grille sensor, lane mitigation, lane departure, etc) I believe they use SX for the base SR package they used to called the TSS package you see here. This was southern thing IIRC, think originated in Texas - on the bSR trim, I believe someone told me it was to spruce up the SR model so they didn’t fell left out by not having a TRD package and decals LOL - def sounds ridic.
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You can find it all over in UAE. Toyota Hiace is the most sold and the most crashed / casualties leader in Dubai.
You can find this engine for around Dhs 5-6k in excellent condition.
I bet even grocery stores have it
There are a lot of shade trees out there David. That cracked windshield wouldn't pass NC Inspection. It is over 6".
Most states don't have inspections.
It will as long as it’s not in the line of site
These 2.7s also have oil consumption issues in addition to the common head gasket failure.
I wonder how many Toyota dealers the owner had to go to before he found one with a 4 cylinder Tacoma equipped like this one in stock?
I had to go all the way to another state to find one, specifically with a manual transmission
I am really surprised to see color matched fender flares on a '13 4 cyl 2WD. That stood out on an otherwise bare bones SR5.
A manual and four cylinder AND 4WD are the holy grail of Tacomas.
Almost bought one just like this 10 years ago. Wish I had.
@@taylorc2542 That is why I am still holding on to my 98 2.7l 4WD manual with locking hubs lol.
It's definitely a different world when it's worth it to put $6K or more into a 10 year old fairly basic pickup. As crazy as $25K for a similar one in good condition is, it's more like $50K for a new one. Hopefully they didn't run it much while overheated and the head won't need to be replaced or any other additional work. It's also amazing how much else has to be replaced these days when doing a head gasket, but you definitely don't want to try to "save" a few dollars by skipping those other items.
It is. But like he said, they hold their value so well. We definitely are living in a crazy world right now.
New cars are trash, even big ones. They put small turbo-charged engines for the sake of efficiency, emissions, and lower fuel consumption, but they are unreliable and cost a fortune to fix. Result, people buy new cars after three years. So much for the environment.
Give an old Toyota truck for $20K over a new truck for $50K any day. Actually, give me a new Hybrid Toyota Corolla. Hopefully will be as reliable as they are cracked up to be.
@@0bzen22 I couldn’t agree more with you about that.
@@0bzen22buy 90s-2006 toyotas while u still can. Gen 1 tundra
Great video wizard a lot of people don't realize with things cost nowadays it's not a small block Chevy and you're right those engines rarely ever fail and water pump and kill it have a great day I'll keep watching I enjoy your videos very educational I may be old and retired I still want to learn about new stuff I don't know if I mentioned it but the 2024 Buick Skylark is incredibly beautiful might be the coolest looking car ever have a great day
I used to work treating water for boiler/heat exchangers .Everyone should know where the water comes from that they put in their cooling system . The city where I live sources water from wells . I do not use well water or other high mineral water .Over time the minerals will degrade the cooling effectiveness of the water system .I learned this the hard way.Scale build up happens .Now I get water from a rain barrel(filtered through a coffee filter).Or I would recommend buying the coolant with the D I water already mixed in .
Believe that is standard practice nowadays...?
.99 cents a gallon for distilled water at Walmart 😂
Toyota recommends buying premixed 50/50 permanent coolant solution or using distilled water to mix with undiluted permanent type antifreeze.
sounds scary, but sound true... this is is the cost of repair. thanks Mr Wizard for being honest!
Well, I just had my Daughter's Dodge Durango fixed (still more to do) ( Colorado) at a "reputable shop" there. It had something to do with leaking oil and causing the computer to put the vehicle in "limp" mode!
She has been driving it for about 10 years now and besides tires and oil changes, hasn't done anything to it at all!!
The shop quoted me $2400.00! as the repair requires that the engine (intake) needed to be taken off in order to fix it!
I figure that at todays costs, it would be way cheaper to spend the $$$$ to have it fixed than buy some "Dirt Bag" used vehicle that might need more than her car did!!!
Plesent Surprise!! It costs $2200! when finished! The shop gave it at least 3 driving test of 10 miles or more to make sure it was fixed and the parts used were from NAPA and had a 3 year/36,000 mile Nationwide Warranty!!
My Daughter said it had way more "get up and go!" now!
Unlike cars from the 50s to the 70s, there are no easy fixes on cars. This is by design as governments all over want to end personal transportation, so that is why cars are under constant government attack. Have you not noticed that?
@@jayjaynella4539 No haven't noticed government attack. However, I have noted the demands imposed on car companies by customers. Customers wan't a car that is cheap to purchase, runs on the smell of an oily rag, requires no maintenance, has the power and torque of a 7.2 litre V8 engine of the late 1960s, contains every option conceivable that can be activated by a simple push of a button, and reverts to a soft cushion cocoon when that car is crashed. Can't be that hard - right?
Good luck getting it fixed. Service and replacement parts are pretty low on the list of priorities Chrysler and its present owner consider for those owning their products. Sell em and forget em has been their policy for way too long.
TSS is a “Gulf States” Toyota Sport Series package on top of the SR5 package. Wheels, larger tires, running boards, spray in bed liner (Tundra) bed lights, TSS stickers, and floor mats. Other areas of the country have similar such as the “SX” series.
The TSS Sport thing is a package by the distributor. There are three distributors in the USA. Toyota Motor Sales, Gulf States Toyota and Southeastern Toyota.
This is a package done by either Gulf States or SE Toyota. Most likely Gulf States. What is included or added I do not know.
Another great video. I was expecting a crunchy gearchange
The beauty of owning a Toyota ... when it fails it's luxury German vehicles prices to fix it 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Something tells me that working on the 22RE in my '86 4Runner might be at least slightly less pricey than this 2.7. Not that I'd mind a 2.7 manual regular cab to run around in.
I miss the old days. My 77 Corolla blew a head gasket. No fancy diagnosis needed, bubbles in the radiator. I drove my dad's car to the parts store and got a new gasket. Less than an hour later, I was driving it. Less than $50 total. Admittedly, we ran an import shop out of the garage and I was pretty fast under the hood for an 18 year old.
4:22 In my experience, those screws are there because the owner spotted them in his driveway, and didn't want to find them in his tires later.
Could be. I figured they were in his pocket, and he didn’t want them there anymore.
@@shiftfocus1 Another valid reason.
I worked with Toyota in the south east region. South East Toyota, and Southern Toyota (Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missippi.) Are owned by companies seperate from Toyota. The regions are managed by companies approached in the late 60's to help introduce toyota to the us when people were still pissed about ww2. Jim Moran built SET. His company still survives today. Toyota tried to buy the rights back for the region in the early 90's. Jim said "90 billion and its yours"
Thank u for all your analysis on Toyotas. Mrs Wizard is awesome with her views. Owner should hose engine bay. Otherwise, great shape! 👍
@Rice Burner dumb idea to do that. You’re not eating under your hood.
@@Blakecryderman7244 A clean engine is a happy engine. If u have grease all over, it's like frying an egg. PLUS, it makes working on your car ALOT BETTER. Can't be dumb, been doing it for 50yrs! 🤔
Toyota Safety Sence, or appearance package. Is TSS . It adds cosmetic upgrades to tires, step bar, and exhaust tips.
If that was an overhead valve engine. It would be an easy decision to replace the headgasket. Overhead cam and vvt, are nice but sure makes things more complex and more expensive.
Well thank you for your honesty on this.
The CA governor signed a bill which requires new vehicles to be EV only. If this goes into effect, older cars will be worth it to spend money on more than you are seeing now. If I had the room for storage, I would be saran wrapping a few and wait for the day it really gets tight used car wise.
I think you can pretty much guarantee eventually CA will sign a bill to BAN all petrol cars from the roads, no matter what year!! You guys keep voting the same way, and expect things to change for the better, and wonder why they dont.
Good luck even getting gasoline anywhere locally once that bullshit goes into full effect. That's the REAL long term problem.
I ordered a 2022 Tacoma with that exact intent, I do use it for work though.
Strange times, CA is a bit messed up with its timing, it will bite them in the ass.
And why are so many people leaving CA 😉
@@whoknows8678 Somehow I don't think the big oil companies will bend over and take that, they love their profits.
@@MattsRageFitGarage They won't have a choice.
I have a 2012 Tacoma and what’s missing on the steering wheel is the voice control for the navigation. With that package you also got an automatic garage door opener as well but it’s on the rear view mirror so you still get two sunglass holders for whatever reason 😂
TSS - Toyota Sports Series (appearance package).
invaluable diagnostics tips!! thank you!
What an informative video... would the customer be better off buying a second hand Toyota to replace this one as they do not break down often and hopefully the next one will last forever ... well at the current market value... not going to happen... maybe in a year or so when all the covid logistics issues are are thing of the past it might be ?
Eric at South Main Auto just checked a Chrysler 200 today with that kit. It failed the test.
I'm shocked that Alex from LegitStreetCars missed the head gasket on his Ford Lightning. He had freaking chocolate milk in his overflow reservoir. I think he's a really good mechanic, so I was really surprised.
It's pretty obvious when there is goop in the coolant res.... Only other cause for that would be a failed trans cooler or oil cooler, so you have to be real suspicious if you have overheating AND see expansion tank oil.
Typically that's the oil filter adapter gasket which is notorious for allowing oil into the coolant but not vice versa.
@@volvo09ord used a coolant/oil filter or sender bracket that varied according to the vehicle. They fail and you replace the gasket. You have to flush the radiator a lot after fixing the problem.
A crack in the windshield is a huge safety issue. The passenger airbag uses the windshields strength to hold the bag in place in a collision when the passenger is bouncing into it. Cracked glass allows the bag to push through the glass, doesn't hold the passenger as it should, can get cut and deflate doing nothing.
Can't wait for the bus video... It's sure to be an interesting change of flavor
The other shop was not wrong for their quote when you consider all that must be replaced on this engine .... there are risks with both shop quotes.
1. Replace engine with a salvage engine... no history of the engine.
2. Wizard quote risk problems once you tare into the engine... the upside is you know the history... it doesn't use oil...
Here's a news flash.... if you develop a crack in a head gasket, reach for a can of Bars Head Gasket Sealer, follow the directions to the letter and worry no more. That stuff really does work!
Two uncles driving their own taxis in Hampshire. One choose a 2003 Avensis d, the other a 2003 Vectra 1.8. Both drained the Boxes after 1000 miles, (good move in the GM gearbox, factory fill's poor quality) then took them up to 300,000 miles. The Toyota needed a new box at 190,,000, two AC compressors, a rack, an alternator, 4 wheel bearings,, a head gasket, fuel pump and injectors, a starter and two flywheels. The GM product needed one compressor, new banana arms, an alternator and two wheel bearings.
My Ford Windstar blew a head gasket, as they all did inevitably, and the symptom was it would not warm up to operating temperature. I had no hot air coming out of the ducts.
Follow the CARE CARE NUT for Toyota Engine Short Block builds !! Great Toyota shop !!
My daughter drove the 4 cylinder 2010 sr5 double cab for 8 years, bought with 29k drove to 115k at that point she was tired of shifting and started using my wife’s car as she no longer drove. Sold that for the Toyota cross which is an awesome suv . Keep telling them Toyota Toyota Toyota.
I have a 2013 6cyl Tacoma prerunner with 40k miles. The stereo screen and driver window mirror went out in the first 5 years. Toyota is the best!
Note to self: stick to the V6 for the Tacoma.
It's still an engine, and it can still blow headgaskets, especially if you ignore replacing water pumps and thermostats.
@@houseofno yes but replacements are available
@@ewxlt Replacements are available for the 4 cylinder. They range from 3 to 4 thousand.
The V6’s blow head gaskets too. 😅 Especially the 4.0’s at high mileage.
I know the older ones I have a crazy belt pattern and three or more idler pulleys with rollerskate style bearings. I’ve seen these rust and catch the belt, then burn up another new belt. Hard to replace the bolt if it gets bent just replace it with the same grade or you might be giving yourself more problems. You can pay 10 bucks at the auto parts store or $.75 at a hardware store for the same bolt.
The 2.7L in the 1st gens have three serpentine belts.
From my understanding, on new Toyotas. The water pumps tend to fail earlier than what they use to. One of the. Theories I've heard, is because of the newer long life coolant not requiring as frequent changes as the older stuff being the possible culprit of the earlier water pump failures on Toyotas.
😊.... Well, I went through 2 radiators with high mileage vehicles they clog up internally and need replaced. Sounds like that is what contributed to the over temp.. hot engine = angry aluminum head warping. This also might be remedied proactively by installing a performance or higher capacity radiator. The manufacturer matches exactly without margin of error.
@@k9underwant believe this? Say again?
@jamescarroll7777 😁
@Matt Mittens 2 radiators? You gotta change your coolant regularly buddy. The only reason why it would clog up, dirty sludgy acidic coolant
Dave a well thought out Video! Thanks!!
TSS is a package that contains a sticker on each rear fender
Great truck. Toyota builds excellent trucks. Thanks for the video on this one.
"not sure why you have 2 sunglass holders" 1 for sunglasses 1 for night glasses (vision correction). Or 2 drivers each with their own glasses.