Jarvis is so laid back, it somehow gives weight to what he's saying - him just suggesting that michael jackson should get a bit of reality in his life makes the whole affair seem ridiculous.
совушка сова i am also from Asia. Pulp is big. Jarvis is a star. Just as popular as blur and oasis in asian countries, for anyone who actually listens to music. Like real music i mean.
@@сиднипрескотт-щ3л pulp is great band, jarvis is great musician, and im from asia i know who pulp was, i know who jarvis is. And great music isn't for everyone so thats why you didn't know it.
I know I'm so late to your comment, but I have to agree. After watching him do it I kind of felt bad for Michael, he was just doing what he loved, but I hear what Jarvis is saying. As a Michael fan I gotta say, it was annoying to see Michael portraying himself as a messiah type figure
He's right. That performance Michael was really up his own arse. He needed a reality check and Jarvis gave him one... I just wish I was there to see it. You can't expect to not get any hate when you're on stage acting like you're Jesus.
BLTKellys Exactly. Michael would be the first to say he never ever thought of himself as Christ but that he did try to live a Christ-like life which by the way he did.
Its not even just the performance. Putting it in the context of time, the allegations that he had just been facing, it was in very bad taste. And to all the people saying "Oh, he was just playing a Messianic role" - irrelevant. He was playing Messianic role at a time when he should have been playing a fucking humbled role.
Typical fucking MJ fans. Seriously - wtf is up with you lot? Why are you so insecure that you can't handle the fact that some people don't think every single thing MJ did was brilliant? Why can't you handle the fact that some people don't like MJ? Why do you care? You just reinforce all the negative things people said about him by acting out the way that you do. Grow the fuck up.
earinsound People like you wanted him to be a child molester so badly. It hurts you that he was found NOT guilty when he took it to trial the 2nd time and when Chandler released the audio recording of his wicked father coercing him into LYING on the King of Pop during the 90s with the first false allegation. He admitted there was nothing inappropriate and that his father made him do it. Michael Jackson was not a child molester. It was all fun and games to make fun of him when we were kids. But we are all grown and the truth has already been revealed. Quit being willfully ignorant and grow up already.
SwingRiots why be forced into extreme humility (which he was already very humble) if you know you are innocent. Only weak minded people let others mold them and let the opinions of others bend their will.
+TheDoughboy1996 Michael Jackson is the KING PIN of the music industry, and that is why jarvis couldn't release FUCK ALL after that incident. FUCK jarvis cokcer.... he is now a nobody!
jahnkonoo egugu ah the king of pin I see, yea no, Jarvis is still a hero in most people’s eyes, mj was so retarded to act like Jesus’s with poor people, and you’re even stupid to take on mjs side
@mcdinkity No man, he wasn't just having fun, he was accusing Jackson for his "christ-behavior" and that's all. He was not trying to imitate christ, he was just singnin "Earth Song".
you can read alot into why Jackson was surrounding by kids and making himself a god like figure. Javis smelled something was very wrong with Jackson and it turned out he was right!
@strangefurt64 yeah ok all right, I think when a person don't wanna admit something is better to live him in peace, cause you're not going to change opinion so nice to met you and take care! :D
You do know that Michael gave over 300 million dollars to over 40 different charities, plus on several occasions donated money from his concerts to help kids and hospitals in the different cities he toured.
@nuitetjuors1 You've been saying what he did, not what you think he did, and there's a big difference. I'm tired of responding to you and won't be doing so in future, but just want to make clear that it's important you make clear what your opinion is, rather than false statements. Also, I beleive in innocent until proven guilty. Thank you
Jarvis Cocker is the one who needs reality. I don't see him helping children or donating money to dying children or spending time with children at orphanages and hospitals.
2014 "Earth Song" voted best performance of the Brits The performance of Michael Jackson Earth Song 1996 singing has been voted the best performance in the history of the BRIT Awards in a new survey. "Someone Like You" by Adele second in 2011 and the Spice Girls with "Who Do You Think You Are" 1997 in third place. No prizes for your ass, Jarvis
+Holly Butler "He thought he was the messiah. He wasn't. Just another person." What does that even mean ? Makes no sense. Reality check ? Did Michael thought that he could fly and heal a cancer patient by sliding his hand down the patient's face. :-D
Holly Butler How did MJ think he was some sort of god? The Bible actually says to be "Christ-like" and that's all the King of Pop was trying to do. Now following the Bible is wrong? The King of Pop is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't with you people. That's probably why this song and video went on to win so many accolades and to be critically acclaimed. It was a great song with a much needed message. Just look at the problems we still face today....
@@michaeljacksonsaguiltypref3600 No, but he did knock up and impregnate a twelve year old girl. You left that part out. Is that the answer you were looking for?
All these people that think Cocker only was famous for this stunt.. It just shows their lack of musical knowledge. Jackson never wrote a song half as good as common people.
Erm billie Jean? I love pulp but to say mj didn’t write songs as great as common people is a load of bs when he literally wrote some of his biggest songs 😭
Jarvis cocker, artist and realist commenting on MJ , performer and wierdo. It's all about keeping in touch with REALITY, and of corse The Common People.
In all seriousness...and I'm a fan of MJs and NOT Jarvis Cockers...but Michael Jackson clearly had a bizarre grasp on "reality" himself. The man needed help, and the kind of fan who held him up as what appears to be the zenith of mankind probably did him more damage than the negative media. Because they indulged and made excuses for some of his more dubious actions...thereby giving him license to carry on down the same road.
HIs face is what's so wrong! He and many here missed the whole point of what Michael was trying to do. He never claimed to be Jesus. He said he wanted to be like him. Jesus came to save the world. Michael was trying to save our planet through song. He was always using metaphors to get his point across. Lighten up people!
Exactly! Cocker cocked-up! What some don't get is - what MJ sang about *IS* REALITY. He wrote this song back in the mid-90's, BEFORE so-called global-warming experts etc, arrived on the scene. MJ was well clued-in to the REALITIES going on. A performer who expressed this song with extra visual messages that night; His video version ends differenty. Also, MJ has often worn white shirts on stage for other songs which don't have any profound message. Some people should research before commenting.
My first reaction was to bitch about Mr Cocker, despite thinking MJ had gone too far with his Jesus act. Blessing all the people of the world... give me a damn break. And I love MJ. But Jarvis did what he had to do I guess.
@@annesophiejp haha they have done nothing but defend him for years now. See if u wernt filled in with the facts, Michael was found completly innocent with the 2 kids admitting that it was their parents looking money. So how dare u make such remarks. Move along and do some educating before commenting on such matters.
@@annesophiejp hahaha yea no problem. U ever thought that because there was this whole movement in hollywood with children coming forward with stories about being abused... hmm i think that would be the time.m where hundreds of children turned against michael. Oh but no, why u ask? Because theres nothing to be said apart from defenfing him and his innocence. When u actually gonna sit down at look at this whole thing logically and with the evidence as well as looking at Michael, the human being... instead of yapping on about the man the media "attempted" to create, this weirdo who molests kids, yea we all know that was just to drag his name down.. now go do some research, seriously
100% Agreed. People are just so ignorant. Till this day, they still believe that Michael was guilty for those allegations. It annoys me how people seems to be seeking drama instead of the truth. For that reason, I will always come to MJ's defense no matter what. Here's a tip for all those haters:Don't ask us to prove MJ's innocence because the trial has already done that for us. Ask yourself HOW he's guilty for all those charges and be prepared to have concrete evidence to back up your claims.
@nuitetjuors1 Think about this; it wasn't him who paid them off. That happened once, and was the decision of Sony who didn't want the bad image to effect his upcoming album release.
Does he ever wash his hair? Oh I love how he says he thought Michael's performance was in "bad taste" so that's why he did what he did? Oh but what he did was in GOOD TASTE????? What an asshole. Jealous of Michael's talent and popularity.
+Holly Butler Michael Jackson is the KING PIN of the music industry, and that is why jarvis couldn't release FUCK ALL after that incident. FUCK jarvis cokcer.... he is now a nobody!
Listen ***** it is very obvious you are very MISINFORMED, MISGUIDED, COLOUR-PEJUDICE,STUPID and have been HOODWINKED by the MEDIA...... One the four 'M's" you people use the POLUTE the entire planet with. When you attack BLACK/AFRICA people or even your own people who doesn't agree with your FILFTH, the MEDIA(paparazzi,propaganda), MONITORY(money which is fake), MEDICINE(aids,ebola,the flues,germ warfare) and FUCKING HELL ON EARTH...... THE MILITARY.... WAR WAR WAR waged upon the people of this planet....... Go and research and stop spreading propaganda... talking out your BLOOD-CLAAT RECTUM. jarvis cocker is SHIT.....!
@nuitetjuors1 Did he? Wow.. how do you know that? Please send me the evidence, and whilst your at it send it to the US legal system, they investigated that for 17 years!
Ohhh, so just because some people in Britain has heard of him - can he be called a legend? Sorry dude, but it takes more than that to get the title "Legend".
Well, I respect that, but I am with Jarvis on this one, Michael would have needed some reality in his life, I'm not saying he wasn't a great human being and a great entertainer, it was just sad to me the way he ended. I mean his music was never the issue it was always him, the way he presented himself, it was like a two sided coin, on the one side it was all really playful and peaceful, but on the other it was all weird and strange and just unnatural in a way.
2. We're well aware MJ was always & continues to be missed, loved & celebrated by millions & millions the world over. However, we are also well aware of the way he was unfairly treated by the media - who also had docile sheep who fed off & digested everything reported as the truth & nothing but the truth. We also know of the backstabbers & not forgetting the money-hungry vultures, who turned something he genuinely cared for and tried to turn it into something sinister for financial gain.
1. Learn what? Not to trust or help people/ children anymore, just b/s of Daddy Chandler? He didn’t “persistently” hang around children, either. He continued to invite bus loads poor / underprivileged parents and their kids to his ranch because he genuinely wanted to help those less fortunate than him. The only families that had stayed were those he had become particularly close to. If a family stayed, the kids followed him everywhere, short of following him to the loo.
7 - been given for very painful scalp reconstruction surgery - (where a balloon is inserted into the scalp to expand it) - due to Pepsi ad burn. That was carried out just before his Dangerous tour. When the allegations broke during his tour, he began to over-consume them in order to block out what was happening. He went to rehab for that. Get over it. Like millions the world over, he had an on/off dependency on prescription medicines described for genuine ailments which - Contd -
@lilyphilia84 No I don't think it is over pretentious. He was trying to convey a message that was on his heart. In the same fashion, someone may think that something you are passionate about is over pretentious. You would have to understand why he wrote it. Read Earth Song by Joel Vogel. It took him several years. It's ok if you think that is over pretentious and it ok if I think it isn't. Everyone will not like everything that an artist does. That's what makes us different.
1. The “Red flags” are plentiful regarding those who made allegations against him. But you wouldn’t know that, because something compels you to remain clueless - Which appears to stem from your personal, underlying bias toward MJ. Everyone / and families have issues of some sort! Especially the ones who suffer from MJ-bias syndrome! And, as for stories being true - it depends on* what * story you’d be referring to. And, Hush with your childish, “world against MJ”. Your OWN words…As usual.
Why doesn't he just admit he was drunk and wanted to be silly? I'd respect him more if he'd just admit it. Sure, Michael could have used 'a reality check', but religion has been a source for inspiration for music practically since the first lyrics were set to notes.
6 - in that courtroom back in 05. Why do you think jurors are told NOT to read or listen to anything outside during a trial? This is where I introduce Aphrodite Jones, (A True Crime writer, who was with other reporters covering the 05 trial) who originally thought MJ was guilty, until she was given access to the actual court transcripts, which she needed for a project. She was shocked - Hence, her eventual book,’ Michael Jackson Conspiracy’ - which is a chunk of the court transcripts.
@ThisLazyMan Michael did use his money, buy you don't have to believe me, look up for yourself. He gave away over $300 million dollars to different charities, not to mention his time and love. What more can one person do? If he didn't get his message out on an award show, where was he supposed to do it? On the street corner and get mobbed? A commerical? No matter what Michael Jackson did or did not do, he still would have been criticized by people who have done far less or nothing at all..
He was a Christian though, the whole point of being a christian is to "become" Jesus and to have His teachings and actions become your own teaching and actions. His showing himself as the victim of the mismanagement of the earth's resources presents the idea that we must become better through helping our fellow man and practicing conservation for ourselves.
"Funny how some people speak in defence of MJ like they personally knew him" Then you may as well say - Funny how some people speak about and accuse MJ of being guilty "like they personally knew him", There are plenty of people who have defended MJ who DID know him more on a personal level and they have said and still say nothing but good about him. Funny how many choose to IGNORE what these people have to say too.
@Viczey nice to meet you too. and you're not going to change anyone's opinion either, especially by saying someone can't possibly be a paedophile on the grounds of "not having had a childhood".
I just...noone comes out of this whole saga very well do they. It is essentially one self indulgent man criticising another self indulgent man for being self indulgent....by being self indulgent
Jarvis came out of it great. I remember watching that performance on TV and thinking that it was a bit much to present himself as Messiah/ healer and the different faiths 'kissing the ring'.
2. His childish nature and aura was like a magnet to them. MJ had made it clear that if a kid/s asked if they could stay in his room instead of their own, he would always tell them that they had to ask their parents first. If they were allowed, he always GAVE his bed to them, (NOT slept in it with them, as many ignorant seem to think). Even though it was his duplex, He had a kind nature & obliged. However, he slept on the floor - many times with his own cousins who were over - Contd -
I'll take if any other man asked for your permission for your child to sleep in their bed you be ok with it then? If that happen to me, I would report them to the police.
@wattdabny No, I don't think you get the point. Earth Song wasn't supposed to be what others wanted to hear. It's about getting a point across that there is just too much destruction and devastation. Okay, you may think that Jarvis was right, but just think about how YOU would feel... It's not fair -.-"
4. You could start by answering the Daddy Chandler question… (Though he is no longer alive, because he committed suicide a few months after MJ died) Actually, he shot himself in the head a within days after This Is It was released. So, which is it? You can remain ignorant, clueless, or learn a few facts that the majority of the public still don’t know about, until an honest film is made. Facts are Facts …whether one is a fan of anyone or not. Fact!
The only thing I read from it is that Michael Jackson was a Christian. All Christians are called to become in every way like Jesus. We are called to seek perfection and act towards that goal of becoming not like God, yet God like. Michael's performance wasn't the best. I mean, the stage didn't really allow him to dance or move around like he normally does.
jarvs when was on stage with pulp he was flying on stage and to say he did not like mj over mj doing earth song but was ok for jarvis to fly i just wish the knob and fell on stage
I made this username when I was 11 years old and haven't deactivated it haha. I can assure you I know stars outside of the High School Musical franchise. This guy's name never rang a bell until Michael made him relevant.@@sophie.c7
3. We know & understand the ones who often comment that they feel he may be guilty / are not sure / are confused - whatever, and suggest to them to just research more deeply. What we are pissed with, is the laud mouths like you, who just burst in with smart-arsed, self-righteous comments, while calling him the usual, robotic nick-names. The kind who listen to and read ALL the sensationalistic BS and take it as gospel - Yet, at the same time, IGNORE a NOT guilty verdict that -
And, one could also say - If you were GENUINELY concernd for your child, then WHY walk straight to a CIVIL LAWYER instead of contacting police / child services? Different scenario - Same principle! So you're admitting you haven't a clue / done NO relevant research! (Rolls eyes)! Anyway...Test time: 1. Why did daddy Chandler DEMAND to meet MJ BEFORE the story went public? 2. What did he demand from MJ during that meeting & how did MJ react to demand? 3. Who reported the story to the police?
That's such a shame, you should start listening music that is not very commercial. Most of the times is a lot better than what sound on TV or awards. Not that Pulp wasn't very popular, but you know what I mean.
This time, read ALL my comments (Below) properly - You are either scanning over one or two or deliberatley ignoring them - No wonder you are missing big chunks of what is being said to you when you attempt a reply.
5 - wanted to know MORE than what was being said and printed out in the public domain. You would have wanted BOTH sides of this, because the accusations are now directed toward one of your OWN, or someone who you’ve admired & have a gut feeling all does not seem as is being presented on the surface. More so, you’d have sat in the courtroom hearing and watching things unfold in a COMPLETELY opposite manner to what you were being fed in the outside world. That is EXACTLY what happened -
All Cocker was”pointing out was his arse” -& that he "cleary, cleary" had a personal inferiority complex. He made more an arse of himself, (no pun) by doing what he did. Very adult-like - NOT! I never had time for anyone who is full of themselves, but many (through following & /or studying) MJ understand the full & exact context of that performance. Cocker even stated MJ invented the moonwalk, (backslide) - which he didn’t. He hasn’t a clue a/b the actual man, so takes him at face-value.
@amaya0625 Are you accusing Jarvis Cocker for wanting the limelight, when what he did was protest against Michael Jackson's "Jesus" performance. Are you serious?!
Actually, it was Jarvis Cockey who was being a total "anus"- almost revealing it while mooning on stage. As for religion, Michael studied all religions &respected them, but did not conform to any. He was more "spiritual" & believed in following a Christ-like format in his life. To love & help others; to look after the planet that is being left to our children, etc. "I will never stop helping and loving people the way Jesus said to. He said, 'Continue to love. Always love." ~ Michael Jackson.
Jarvis is so laid back, it somehow gives weight to what he's saying - him just suggesting that michael jackson should get a bit of reality in his life makes the whole affair seem ridiculous.
Exactly.
Jarvis should have received an MBE for his stance that night.
When you set yourself up as the Messiah then you deserve every kind of ridicule that comes your way. Jarvis played a blinder.
I love how people think Jarvis Cocker was only famous for this stunt. It's actually painful hahaha
It's really most Americans who think that. They have no idea about Pulp and how much of a talented songwriter and performer he was.
@@LegoDonut18 I'm from Asia, that cock is nobody and no one outside England knows him, i know him only because of MJs performance
совушка сова i am also from Asia. Pulp is big. Jarvis is a star. Just as popular as blur and oasis in asian countries, for anyone who actually listens to music. Like real music i mean.
@@archangel9235 nobody in my country ever heard of pulp, but everybody knows MJ even if they don't listen him
@@сиднипрескотт-щ3л pulp is great band, jarvis is great musician, and im from asia i know who pulp was, i know who jarvis is. And great music isn't for everyone so thats why you didn't know it.
The irony about this is that Jarvis became something a Jesus figure in the British music press himself after this incident.
Jarvis song went out of the charts soon after but mj earth song went back in top 20 after the brits ah ha
@@jazmorrison9030 Truth!!
Seriously?..
A Jesus?
As for MJ, he never said he WAS Jesus but he would act LIKE Jesus. Being good to people.
If Jarvis is Jesus, what does that make Bob Mortimer, John the Baptist?
the difference is that we know the truth about mj, just because some things are written in the tabloids doesnt mean they're true
I'm laughing way too hard at Jarvis' reaction when he walks in.
Wow, some serious vitriol for Jarvis here. Guys, it was 22 years ago and it was funny.
I know I'm so late to your comment, but I have to agree. After watching him do it I kind of felt bad for Michael, he was just doing what he loved, but I hear what Jarvis is saying. As a Michael fan I gotta say, it was annoying to see Michael portraying himself as a messiah type figure
He's right. That performance Michael was really up his own arse. He needed a reality check and Jarvis gave him one... I just wish I was there to see it. You can't expect to not get any hate when you're on stage acting like you're Jesus.
BLTKellys Exactly. Michael would be the first to say he never ever thought of himself as Christ but that he did try to live a Christ-like life which by the way he did.
Its not even just the performance. Putting it in the context of time, the allegations that he had just been facing, it was in very bad taste. And to all the people saying "Oh, he was just playing a Messianic role" - irrelevant. He was playing Messianic role at a time when he should have been playing a fucking humbled role.
Typical fucking MJ fans. Seriously - wtf is up with you lot? Why are you so insecure that you can't handle the fact that some people don't think every single thing MJ did was brilliant? Why can't you handle the fact that some people don't like MJ? Why do you care? You just reinforce all the negative things people said about him by acting out the way that you do. Grow the fuck up.
earinsound People like you wanted him to be a child molester so badly. It hurts you that he was found NOT guilty when he took it to trial the 2nd time and when Chandler released the audio recording of his wicked father coercing him into LYING on the King of Pop during the 90s with the first false allegation. He admitted there was nothing inappropriate and that his father made him do it. Michael Jackson was not a child molester. It was all fun and games to make fun of him when we were kids. But we are all grown and the truth has already been revealed. Quit being willfully ignorant and grow up already.
SwingRiots why be forced into extreme humility (which he was already very humble) if you know you are innocent. Only weak minded people let others mold them and let the opinions of others bend their will.
The comments section to this vid is a real shitshow.
Jarvis = legend
There are no legends in this time of age.
Singers and performers are just overrated shitty people, like everyone else for that matter.
TheDoughboy1996 Legend of bullshit? I agree.
Could be a legend of kiddy fiddling instead like...
+TheDoughboy1996 Michael Jackson is the KING PIN of the music industry, and that is why jarvis couldn't release FUCK ALL after that incident.
FUCK jarvis cokcer.... he is now a nobody!
jahnkonoo egugu ah the king of pin I see, yea no, Jarvis is still a hero in most people’s eyes, mj was so retarded to act like Jesus’s with poor people, and you’re even stupid to take on mjs side
@Mike182Jones He was not trying to be Jesus! He was just singing with some people around!
He looks like Tobey Maguire at the beggining
lol
Bully Maguire
@mcdinkity No man, he wasn't just having fun, he was accusing Jackson for his "christ-behavior" and that's all. He was not trying to imitate christ, he was just singnin "Earth Song".
Watch the performance. He starts thinking he's the messiah. Especially when Jarvis left the stage.
@@hvern0n I didn't know you could read thoughts 🙄
@@nunyabiznes6243 dressed in white, the bloke acts like a nob
you can read alot into why Jackson was surrounding by kids and making himself a god like figure. Javis smelled something was very wrong with Jackson and it turned out he was right!
You’re projecting.
The performance was obnoxious, and ego drivel drivel.
So he went to mock it.
i love his quip when asked about jackson fans thrwoing eggs
Could made a fine yorkshire pudding with them
Someone who hits someone and hospitalizes someone gets zero outrage, someone who enters the stage for a moment gets a huge outrage....
So much respect for Jarvis.
no. and to you no also.
@strangefurt64 yeah ok all right, I think when a person don't wanna admit something is better to live him in peace, cause you're not going to change opinion so nice to met you and take care! :D
Nobody asked his opinion about Michael’s performance.
considering there was a press conference, I'd reckon a few people had
You do know that Michael gave over 300 million dollars to over 40 different charities, plus on several occasions donated money from his concerts to help kids and hospitals in the different cities he toured.
sure but as jarvis said he didnt have a personal vendetta against him he just didnt like that performance
this guy was trying to get 5 seconds of fame outside of the shire.
@nuitetjuors1 You've been saying what he did, not what you think he did, and there's a big difference. I'm tired of responding to you and won't be doing so in future, but just want to make clear that it's important you make clear what your opinion is, rather than false statements. Also, I beleive in innocent until proven guilty. Thank you
"I just think it would be good for him to get a bit of reality into his life." Even hardcore MJ fans would have to admit Jarvis had a point.
still a legend.
Jarvis Cocker is the one who needs reality. I don't see him helping children or donating money to dying children or spending time with children at orphanages and hospitals.
What a legend
You have to be dead to be a legend
Totally
2014 "Earth Song" voted best performance of the Brits
The performance of Michael Jackson Earth Song 1996 singing has been voted the best performance in the history of the BRIT Awards in a new survey.
"Someone Like You" by Adele second in 2011 and the Spice Girls with "Who Do You Think You Are" 1997 in third place.
No prizes for your ass, Jarvis
+Holly Butler just so you know , your opinion is not a fact; maybe you are the ignorant
+Holly Butler "He thought he was the messiah. He wasn't. Just another person."
What does that even mean ? Makes no sense.
Reality check ?
Did Michael thought that he could fly and heal a cancer patient by sliding his hand down the patient's face. :-D
***** " *Michael thought he was a god of some sort.* "
Facepalm
THISISIT562 yessss you tell em! Jarvis is TRASH, Michael Jackson is the Greatest Entertainer of ALL Time, the King of Pop 👑
Holly Butler How did MJ think he was some sort of god? The Bible actually says to be "Christ-like" and that's all the King of Pop was trying to do. Now following the Bible is wrong? The King of Pop is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't with you people. That's probably why this song and video went on to win so many accolades and to be critically acclaimed. It was a great song with a much needed message. Just look at the problems we still face today....
"In no way do I think I am God, but I do try to be God-like." -MJ
Did god entice other people's kids into his room?
@@michaeljacksonsaguiltypref3600 LOL here you are again. What the f
@@michaeljacksonsaguiltypref3600 No, but he did knock up and impregnate a twelve year old girl. You left that part out. Is that the answer you were looking for?
@nuitetjuors1 This makes him guilty? I do hope you never work in a court of law.
All these people that think Cocker only was famous for this stunt.. It just shows their lack of musical knowledge. Jackson never wrote a song half as good as common people.
We Are The World
Billie Jean
I was with you till "never wrote a song half as good as common people". Utter tripe.
What a dumb comment holy shit
Erm billie Jean? I love pulp but to say mj didn’t write songs as great as common people is a load of bs when he literally wrote some of his biggest songs 😭
Jarvis cocker, artist and realist commenting on MJ , performer and wierdo.
It's all about keeping in touch with REALITY, and of corse The Common People.
In all seriousness...and I'm a fan of MJs and NOT Jarvis Cockers...but Michael Jackson clearly had a bizarre grasp on "reality" himself. The man needed help, and the kind of fan who held him up as what appears to be the zenith of mankind probably did him more damage than the negative media. Because they indulged and made excuses for some of his more dubious actions...thereby giving him license to carry on down the same road.
Jarvis is completely in the wrong here, but I still think it's hilarious and wouldn't want him to have done any differently.
HIs face is what's so wrong! He and many here missed the whole point of what Michael was trying to do. He never claimed to be Jesus. He said he wanted to be like him. Jesus came to save the world. Michael was trying to save our planet through song. He was always using metaphors to get his point across. Lighten up people!
Exactly!
Cocker cocked-up! What some don't get is - what MJ sang about *IS* REALITY. He wrote this song back in the mid-90's, BEFORE so-called global-warming experts etc, arrived on the scene. MJ was well clued-in to the REALITIES going on. A performer who expressed this song with extra visual messages that night; His video version ends differenty. Also, MJ has often worn white shirts on stage for other songs which don't have any profound message. Some people should research before commenting.
My first reaction was to bitch about Mr Cocker, despite thinking MJ had gone too far with his Jesus act. Blessing all the people of the world... give me a damn break. And I love MJ. But Jarvis did what he had to do I guess.
Perhaps Michael invited those kids that performed with him that night back to his Neverland Ranch for some cookies and milk.
Thomas turner I knew I wouldn't get through these comments before some asshole would make a bullshit comment about children.
I hope one day those children speak out and all those defending this abuser feel ashamed.
@@annesophiejp haha they have done nothing but defend him for years now. See if u wernt filled in with the facts, Michael was found completly innocent with the 2 kids admitting that it was their parents looking money. So how dare u make such remarks. Move along and do some educating before commenting on such matters.
@@rhys992 just wait, truth will come out one day 😊
@@annesophiejp hahaha yea no problem. U ever thought that because there was this whole movement in hollywood with children coming forward with stories about being abused... hmm i think that would be the time.m where hundreds of children turned against michael. Oh but no, why u ask? Because theres nothing to be said apart from defenfing him and his innocence. When u actually gonna sit down at look at this whole thing logically and with the evidence as well as looking at Michael, the human being... instead of yapping on about the man the media "attempted" to create, this weirdo who molests kids, yea we all know that was just to drag his name down.. now go do some research, seriously
who is Jarvis Cocker though?
Singer for Pulp. Didn't you know?
alcadelin5 Who gives a shit?
I'm sorry for the people who don't know him.
100% Agreed. People are just so ignorant. Till this day, they still believe that Michael was guilty for those allegations. It annoys me how people seems to be seeking drama instead of the truth. For that reason, I will always come to MJ's defense no matter what. Here's a tip for all those haters:Don't ask us to prove MJ's innocence because the trial has already done that for us. Ask yourself HOW he's guilty for all those charges and be prepared to have concrete evidence to back up your claims.
Fucking hero.
Good on him
@nuitetjuors1 Think about this; it wasn't him who paid them off. That happened once, and was the decision of Sony who didn't want the bad image to effect his upcoming album release.
Does he ever wash his hair? Oh I love how he says he thought Michael's performance was in "bad taste" so that's why he did what he did? Oh but what he did was in GOOD TASTE????? What an asshole. Jealous of Michael's talent and popularity.
Well it's better than touching up little children.
+Holly Butler Michael Jackson is the KING PIN of the music industry, and that is why jarvis couldn't release FUCK ALL after that incident.
FUCK jarvis cokcer.... he is now a nobody!
Listen ***** it is very obvious you are very MISINFORMED, MISGUIDED, COLOUR-PEJUDICE,STUPID and have been HOODWINKED by the MEDIA......
One the four 'M's" you people use the POLUTE the entire planet with.
When you attack BLACK/AFRICA people or even your own people who doesn't agree with your FILFTH, the MEDIA(paparazzi,propaganda), MONITORY(money which is fake), MEDICINE(aids,ebola,the flues,germ warfare) and FUCKING HELL ON EARTH...... THE MILITARY.... WAR WAR WAR waged upon the people of this planet....... Go and research and stop spreading propaganda... talking out your BLOOD-CLAAT RECTUM.
jarvis cocker is SHIT.....!
Mooseman He was found innocent. Grow up. Those type of jokes are played out.
It's hilarious that you think Jarvis Cocker would be 'jealous' of anyone. 😂 That nonsense is for American divas.
@majorager he was not a pedo. And he wasn't bleatching his skin. Stop sayin stupid things and get informed.
i was rudely hassled and ranted at by MJ fan "tonm08" But I do agree completely with Jarvis on this one, well done to him!!
MJJ forever the King of Music.
@nuitetjuors1 Did he? Wow.. how do you know that? Please send me the evidence, and whilst your at it send it to the US legal system, they investigated that for 17 years!
Jarvis Cocker deserves a knighthood.
Ohhh, so just because some people in Britain has heard of him - can he be called a legend? Sorry dude, but it takes more than that to get the title "Legend".
Fame doesn't factor into your status of legend, it's what you do that defines you.
@@prongs0611 Then what? A failed Actor or Singer like Jarvis cocker 👿
@@ProofCare his music was amazing though, doesn’t matter if he wasn’t as popular.
jarvis has a good point, he just made it in the wrong way. you dont counter bad taste with bad taste
Well, I respect that, but I am with Jarvis on this one, Michael would have needed some reality in his life, I'm not saying he wasn't a great human being and a great entertainer, it was just sad to me the way he ended. I mean his music was never the issue it was always him, the way he presented himself, it was like a two sided coin, on the one side it was all really playful and peaceful, but on the other it was all weird and strange and just unnatural in a way.
2. We're well aware MJ was always & continues to be missed, loved & celebrated by millions & millions the world over. However, we are also well aware of the way he was unfairly treated by the media - who also had docile sheep who fed off & digested everything reported as the truth & nothing but the truth. We also know of the backstabbers & not forgetting the money-hungry vultures, who turned something he genuinely cared for and tried to turn it into something sinister for financial gain.
👏👏Well said!👏 👏
He’s a brave man who understands the pain that abused children go through.
1. Learn what? Not to trust or help people/ children anymore, just b/s of Daddy Chandler? He didn’t “persistently” hang around children, either.
He continued to invite bus loads poor / underprivileged parents and their kids to his ranch because he genuinely wanted to help those less fortunate than him. The only families that had stayed were those he had become particularly close to. If a family stayed, the kids followed him everywhere, short of following him to the loo.
5 mins of fame, he clearly enjoyed the attention Michael gave me. Mj forever.
jarvis is so much better
i love jarvis what a man
I like how wearing white and spreading awareness is apparently impersonating God lol
7 - been given for very painful scalp reconstruction surgery - (where a balloon is inserted into the scalp to expand it) - due to Pepsi ad burn. That was carried out just before his Dangerous tour. When the allegations broke during his tour, he began to over-consume them in order to block out what was happening. He went to rehab for that. Get over it.
Like millions the world over, he had an on/off dependency on prescription medicines described for genuine ailments which - Contd -
@lilyphilia84 No I don't think it is over pretentious. He was trying to convey a message that was on his heart. In the same fashion, someone may think that something you are passionate about is over pretentious. You would have to understand why he wrote it. Read Earth Song by Joel Vogel. It took him several years. It's ok if you think that is over pretentious and it ok if I think it isn't. Everyone will not like everything that an artist does. That's what makes us different.
The first 3 questions are only the beginning of your test!
RUclips Charles Thomson, Aphrodite Jones, William Wagner and Mary Fisher about Michael Jackson. Get the facts !!!!!!!!!!!
1. The “Red flags” are plentiful regarding those who made allegations against him. But you wouldn’t know that, because something compels you to remain clueless - Which appears to stem from your personal, underlying bias toward MJ. Everyone / and families have issues of some sort! Especially the ones who suffer from MJ-bias syndrome! And, as for stories being true - it depends on* what * story you’d be referring to. And, Hush with your childish, “world against MJ”. Your OWN words…As usual.
Why doesn't he just admit he was drunk and wanted to be silly?
I'd respect him more if he'd just admit it.
Sure, Michael could have used 'a reality check', but religion has been a source for inspiration for music practically since the first lyrics were set to notes.
6 - in that courtroom back in 05. Why do you think jurors are told NOT to read or listen to anything outside during a trial? This is where I introduce Aphrodite Jones, (A True Crime writer, who was with other reporters covering the 05 trial) who originally thought MJ was guilty, until she was given access to the actual court transcripts, which she needed for a project. She was shocked -
Hence, her eventual book,’ Michael Jackson Conspiracy’ - which is a chunk of the court transcripts.
@ThisLazyMan Michael did use his money, buy you don't have to believe me, look up for yourself. He gave away over $300 million dollars to different charities, not to mention his time and love. What more can one person do? If he didn't get his message out on an award show, where was he supposed to do it? On the street corner and get mobbed? A commerical? No matter what Michael Jackson did or did not do, he still would have been criticized by people who have done far less or nothing at all..
who cares? he fuckin aplogized, thats all that matters
He knew it lol
He was a Christian though, the whole point of being a christian is to "become" Jesus and to have His teachings and actions become your own teaching and actions. His showing himself as the victim of the mismanagement of the earth's resources presents the idea that we must become better through helping our fellow man and practicing conservation for ourselves.
"Funny how some people speak in defence of MJ like they personally knew him"
Then you may as well say - Funny how some people speak about and accuse MJ of being guilty "like they personally knew him",
There are plenty of people who have defended MJ who DID know him more on a personal level and they have said and still say nothing but good about him. Funny how many choose to IGNORE what these people have to say too.
@Viczey
nice to meet you too. and you're not going to change anyone's opinion either, especially by saying someone can't possibly be a paedophile on the grounds of "not having had a childhood".
"get a bit of reality into his life"
Seriously? You just mooned infront of a crowd..
I just...noone comes out of this whole saga very well do they. It is essentially one self indulgent man criticising another self indulgent man for being self indulgent....by being self indulgent
Jarvis came out of it great. I remember watching that performance on TV and thinking that it was a bit much to present himself as Messiah/ healer and the different faiths 'kissing the ring'.
2. His childish nature and aura was like a magnet to them.
MJ had made it clear that if a kid/s asked if they could stay in his room instead of their own, he would always tell them that they had to ask their parents first. If they were allowed, he always GAVE his bed to them, (NOT slept in it with them, as many ignorant seem to think). Even though it was his duplex, He had a kind nature & obliged. However, he slept on the floor - many times with his own cousins who were over - Contd -
I'll take if any other man asked for your permission for your child to sleep in their bed you be ok with it then? If that happen to me, I would report them to the police.
good old jarv!
@wattdabny No, I don't think you get the point. Earth Song wasn't supposed to be what others wanted to hear. It's about getting a point across that there is just too much destruction and devastation. Okay, you may think that Jarvis was right, but just think about how YOU would feel... It's not fair -.-"
4. You could start by answering the Daddy Chandler question… (Though he is no longer alive, because he committed suicide a few months after MJ died) Actually, he shot himself in the head a within days after This Is It was released.
So, which is it? You can remain ignorant, clueless, or learn a few facts that the majority of the public still don’t know about, until an honest film is made.
Facts are Facts …whether one is a fan of anyone or not. Fact!
The only thing I read from it is that Michael Jackson was a Christian. All Christians are called to become in every way like Jesus. We are called to seek perfection and act towards that goal of becoming not like God, yet God like. Michael's performance wasn't the best. I mean, the stage didn't really allow him to dance or move around like he normally does.
jarvs when was on stage with pulp he was flying on stage and to say he did not like mj over mj doing earth song but was ok for jarvis to fly i just wish the knob and fell on stage
It was just a joke Micheal was just trying to impress his audience and do something that nobody else has ever done
The only reason I know this guy exists is because he tried to jump on stage during Michael Jackson’s performance
Your username is about Corbin Bleu, I’m not surprised you don’t know who Jarvis is.
He was famous before this
I made this username when I was 11 years old and haven't deactivated it haha. I can assure you I know stars outside of the High School Musical franchise. This guy's name never rang a bell until Michael made him relevant.@@sophie.c7
He did this get his 5 mins off fame cause know one know who he was until he did this.
he wanted a limelight
3. We know & understand the ones who often comment that they feel he may be guilty / are not sure / are confused - whatever, and suggest to them to just research more deeply.
What we are pissed with, is the laud mouths like you, who just burst in with smart-arsed, self-righteous comments, while calling him the usual, robotic nick-names. The kind who listen to and read ALL the sensationalistic BS and take it as gospel - Yet, at the same time, IGNORE a NOT guilty verdict that -
There's no evidence of that.
And, one could also say - If you were GENUINELY concernd for your child, then WHY walk straight to a CIVIL LAWYER instead of contacting police / child services? Different scenario - Same principle!
So you're admitting you haven't a clue / done NO relevant research! (Rolls eyes)!
Anyway...Test time:
1. Why did daddy Chandler DEMAND to meet MJ BEFORE the story went public?
2. What did he demand from MJ during that meeting & how did MJ react to demand?
3. Who reported the story to the police?
Who is Jarvis ? first time l hear about this guy !
Kenza Sanchez a loser who disrespected himself and the King of Pop by mooning smh what a cornball
That's such a shame, you should start listening music that is not very commercial. Most of the times is a lot better than what sound on TV or awards. Not that Pulp wasn't very popular, but you know what I mean.
This time, read ALL my comments (Below) properly - You are either scanning over one or two or deliberatley ignoring them - No wonder you are missing big chunks of what is being said to you when you attempt a reply.
EXACTLY!!!!
5 - wanted to know MORE than what was being said and printed out in the public domain. You would have wanted BOTH sides of this, because the accusations are now directed toward one of your OWN, or someone who you’ve admired & have a gut feeling all does not seem as is being presented on the surface.
More so, you’d have sat in the courtroom hearing and watching things unfold in a COMPLETELY opposite manner to what you were being fed in the outside world. That is EXACTLY what happened -
Ngl as someone who is a fan of both Jarvis and Jackson this was a chad move I wish I could have done that
@MJJFanVideos
how do you know he didn't? because he got away with it, or because you like the way he dances?
It cost him millions to sway that though.
ROY ORBISON!
All Cocker was”pointing out was his arse” -& that he "cleary, cleary" had a personal inferiority complex. He made more an arse of himself, (no pun) by doing what he did. Very adult-like - NOT!
I never had time for anyone who is full of themselves, but many (through following & /or studying) MJ understand the full & exact context of that performance. Cocker even stated MJ invented the moonwalk, (backslide) - which he didn’t. He hasn’t a clue a/b the actual man, so takes him at face-value.
A fair statement lol
@jorilyne17
that's no way to start a fight! you're supposed to tell me to piss off or something! (love and peace to you)
@amaya0625 Are you accusing Jarvis Cocker for wanting the limelight, when what he did was protest against Michael Jackson's "Jesus" performance. Are you serious?!
Actually, it was Jarvis Cockey who was being a total "anus"- almost revealing it while mooning on stage. As for religion, Michael studied all religions &respected them, but did not conform to any. He was more "spiritual" & believed in following a Christ-like format in his life. To love & help others; to look after the planet that is being left to our children, etc.
"I will never stop helping and loving people the way Jesus said to. He said, 'Continue to love. Always love." ~ Michael Jackson.
How sad are these people shouting abuse at Jarvis?
Probably the same people that send in flowers when people die on Eastenders.