No one believed Ryan’s suspicions about Oliver, not just Marissa. There is no way anyone could know how crazy Oliver was. Marissa isn’t to blame for Oliver’s actions, she thought she found a friend who ended up lying and manipulating her. To be honest Ryan was really hard on Marissa in the aftermath of Oliver, he forgave Seth and others for not believing him.
Built up rage from her selfishness. This is stuff we all know. Marissa is a selfish character. Maybe he could've said it nicer. But alot of it is the truth
She did encourage Lindsay to keep drinking hard liquor when she knew Lindsay had never drank alcohol before and had not eaten dinner. She even found it humorous. When taking that into consideration, she did deserve it...even here. That said, I like Marissa.
Marissas fault is that she had a ”what’s the big deal” mentality to everything she did, like she said ”it go a little bit out of control”. Like sure, Lindsey decided to drink, but Marissas knew she wasn’t used to drinking so she should have made sure that she didn’t drink to much.
Well from Luke drinking that it wasn't a big deal for him to be drinking. Also Ryan makes it sound like "you wanna make a mess out of your own life fine." Like sure, Lindsay didn't decide to drink, but Ryan always needs a reason to be right about everything if not for assuming that it was Marissa's fault when no one is at fault for drinking. Because no one asked Ryan to do anything about it when he didn't need to.
I've always hated Marissa. Ryan was justified telling her off. Ryan is the best thing to ever happen to her and she thanked him by constantly messing up his life.
Nick Coban Marissa didn’t force Lindsey to do anything! And Marisa didn’t mess up his life! Marissa suffered from depression and addiction but ignorant fans like yourself love to ignore those facts as if illnesses as those can just be put away
kirstenrox234, looking back on s1 now and the start of Marissa truly spiralling out of control and I find I have to disagree with you. Not for a moment saying they're things that can just be put away but they are issues that, if that's the hand you've been dealt in life, then the onus is on you to address it and she repeatedly chose not to.
I know what you mean, its frustrating to watch her do things to get herself and others into trouble but she is meant to be 17! She was basically abandoned by her father and had a mother who never cared for her i think we can cut her some slack for not understanding or knowing how to cope with all the things that happen to her. She's basically still a child.
Yaaaaassss, Ryan! Let her have it. "So this is the part where you blame it all on me?", I thought he'd say, 'Oh, you'd like that wouldn't you? For this drama to revolve around you". Marissa's a child, and she knew she deserved a telling off with her reaction at 0:36. Ryan's home truth's were spot on!
Not spot on. Because it turned out that Ryan and Lindsay are brother and sister. Which means he shouldn't have feelings for someone that is his sister. But it's like Ryan blames Marissa for no reason and he shouldn't get all angry at Marissa like that.
i can definitely see why ryan was frustrated at marissa, but the hurt on marissa’s face kills me. i’m glad they fixed things later onwards though. i feel like if marissa’s life was less messed up, she and ryan could’ve been more than a perfect match!! i would’ve liked to see more ryissa scenes but with no excess drama.
They shouldn't have fixed things onwards though. Because I feel like if Ryan's life was less messed up then he wouldn't need to blame Marissa for anything at all. Because I was never a fan of ryissa since they broke up and Marissa moved on to be with someone that she loves a lot and that is Alex.
I’m always shocked by how much the fans didn’t all love or like Marissa, I always liked her and even related to her a bit. I understood why Ryan was angry, but she didn’t deserve that, and it’s super interesting how since this show came out a while ago, the focus was never on mental illness, addiction, depression. It was always said in different ways but now in 2020 looking back it’s like yeah Marissa had a lot of problems and went through a lot of things...Again not her fault, people can be so harsh damn, show some kindness
I think that a problem is that Marissa didn't understand how much trouble she caused for Ryan, and I think in some ways she was sheltered from worse troubles. That's not to say she didn't have problems at home, but I think Marissa growing up in an environment where consequences aren't dire, in the grand scheme of things, may have put people off from her character. Looking at Ryan, who didn't have a great home life, and probably had no advantages in his young life, it's easier to see his desire to change. It didn't help that Marissa got involved with troubled crowds, and she turned to booze and drugs. Even if she didn't want to be preppy and peppy like Taylor (who was masking horrible insecurities herself), that was not a wise move for her to make. Not everything was Marissa's fault though, as Julie was not a very good mother. And, I think Marissa needed more time to finally get serious help, but she was killed off before making a change.
@@Joe_Parmesan yeah exactly. just when marissa was going to work on a boat and getting a change in her life, she was killed off. she could’ve had great character development from there point onwards.
Now that the fact that Ben and Marissa dated and she broke it off with him and he apparently felt a lot of resentment has come out, scenes like this feel a lot more uh...."real."
I need the whole cast to just retell their stories cause she’s the only one irl who has and a lot of them contradict what the other cast members say. It’s annoying 😭
@@spookysins4784 i’m searching for it till i finished the 1rst season , but i didn’t find anything 😭 i know rachel bilson ( summer) did a sort of podcast about the o.c. With some of the main actors but i don’t think they explain what happened between them. I’d love to see a reunion of the cast anyway 🙈
I'm not even that much of a Marissa fan however I'll always think that was not deserved and really harsh of Ryan... Lindsay's responsible for her own decisions you can't blame Marissa for possibly "inspiring" one of them l
Wow at all the anti Marissa comments! I really hope none of your loved ones ever struggle with depression and addiction (though I wouldn’t have been surprised if Marissa had bipolar) Yes she was chaotic and Ryan often had to deal with that. But he loved her and she loved him and it’s not like she wanted to be the way she was. She just needed the right help.
Marissa is not exactly a very popular character. I guess you just have to deal with it. Would help her popularity if she wouldn´t be so damn passive and weak about literally anything.
@@critical_analysis You clearly have no understanding or sympathy for people with depression and poor mental health or of the terrible toll addiction can take on a person. I'm not excusing all of Marissa's behaviour however I am stating people are being to hard on her. Like you, they are acting like she is just a spoiled party girl who just wants to have a good time and doesn't know when to stop. However it isn't. She is depressed and doesn't know how to deal with her negative emotions, so she buries them in drink and drugs. Her privileged background is irrelevant. Rich people can suffer from depression too.
@@NarnianHogwart Just to clarify, I am always sympathetic towards people who learn from their mistakes and put earnest efforts to overcome issues. The basic traits which differentiate a human from animals are his self-control, discipline and learning from mistakes. Without these traits, we are no better than animals. Marissa was given numerous chances to redeem herself but she always had issues in controlling herself and ruined not only her life but also made life miserable of her loved ones. She was sent to therapists for treatment, had loving friends, a dedicated lover, a loving father and so on, but still she did not have the courage or strength to overcome her demons. Indulging in mindless and meaningless sex, cheating are no excuses for depression. Marissa is probably one of the shallowest mainstream TV characters without any interest or talents or any passion. She was always indulged in drugs, alcohol, and sex. She was academically poor, never had any interest in arts/sports/creative skills or any other skills for that matter but simply indulged in drugs, alcohol and sex. That is the reason you see even a person like Ryan who loved her unconditionally loses his temper and states that she ruins everything. I always look up to people who rise to the top without any support and overcome tremendous odds because of their strength of character. Everyone in this world has some issues, but we should strive to overcome those and become a better human, if we don't do that, then our lives become miserable and we make life hell for our loved ones.
That's of little comfort to a character like Ryan. He was trying lead a better life which Marissa almost destroyed more than once. The first time, deciding to cope with her problems through drinking, being too drunk to drive and having an open container in the car, which forced Ryan into a position of having to drive her home while he was on probation. The second situation, Oliver, and the way she neglected their relationship for him, and disregarded Ryan's feelings as jealousy. Yea, Seth didn't have his back either but his relationship with Seth is different to Marissa's. He was intimate with Marissa; physically, emotionally. Feelings were involved. Makes the abandonment/betray much, much worse. It wasn't intentional, but she dragged him down. His reaction here, although disproportionate to the immediate situation, is completely justified for the overall context of their relationship.
I much prefer Ryan and Summer. Because they're always playful with each other and have more in common with each other like the whole privacy thing. Because Ryan would somehow like her Dad Neal Roberts.
It’s not Ryan or Marissa’s fault that Lindsey got wasted. Lindsey chose to drink the way she did. I get she felt pressure by Marissa and Alex who were experienced drinkers. But she still chose to drink.
Yeah Ryan just wanted them to be friends and that's true. But it shouldn't matter that he didn't expect all of them to get drunk. Because that had nothing to do with him at all.
I KNOW I'm gonna get serious hate for this. But after so much problems these two went through, I think Taylor was the healthier choice for Ryan. Marissa was a dark tunnel for Ryan for a long time, and Taylor was the light at the end of it. Her positive outlook combined with her more thoughtful nature and natural quirkiness made for a breath of fresh air. But that's my opinion
Ashley Morales omg I totally agree. And honestly after everything marissa put Ryan through, she deserved to be yelled at. It gave me some satisfaction to be honest.
Ashley Morales if it makes you feel better I think the same, Marissa was a massive ball of problems and I was tired of her, every chapter was chaos with her life. And Taylor, I really think she is the best for Ryan, she is funny, sweet, cute, intelligent, good and a lovely character
Marissa completely ruined Her and Ryan in season one with Oliver. They were never the same after that
Justin Caldero thank god someone else agrees
Definitely Marissa was self destructive. I wish he would’ve got back Theresa
@@houseofmatrix6174 Theresa was my favorite.. She's so matured and understanding
@@multifandomtribe9554 exactly she was ride or die
No one believed Ryan’s suspicions about Oliver, not just Marissa. There is no way anyone could know how crazy Oliver was. Marissa isn’t to blame for Oliver’s actions, she thought she found a friend who ended up lying and manipulating her. To be honest Ryan was really hard on Marissa in the aftermath of Oliver, he forgave Seth and others for not believing him.
She didn't deserve it at this moment, but it's something that had been building up for a long time. It had to happen eventually.
Nicky Morris I know but he doesn't have to take it out on her
facts. ugh i miss this show :(
Built up rage from her selfishness. This is stuff we all know. Marissa is a selfish character. Maybe he could've said it nicer. But alot of it is the truth
She did encourage Lindsay to keep drinking hard liquor when she knew Lindsay had never drank alcohol before and had not eaten dinner. She even found it humorous. When taking that into consideration, she did deserve it...even here. That said, I like Marissa.
yeah i can understand ryan’s frustration, but he didn’t have to take it out on marissa
That was most likely the Best 'Fine' in tv history..
Definitly was the BEST!
Marissas fault is that she had a ”what’s the big deal” mentality to everything she did, like she said ”it go a little bit out of control”. Like sure, Lindsey decided to drink, but Marissas knew she wasn’t used to drinking so she should have made sure that she didn’t drink to much.
Well from Luke drinking that it wasn't a big deal for him to be drinking. Also Ryan makes it sound like "you wanna make a mess out of your own life fine." Like sure, Lindsay didn't decide to drink, but Ryan always needs a reason to be right about everything if not for assuming that it was Marissa's fault when no one is at fault for drinking. Because no one asked Ryan to do anything about it when he didn't need to.
Ben's acting is on spot 👌
One of my favorite scenes in the show good acting
I've always hated Marissa. Ryan was justified telling her off. Ryan is the best thing to ever happen to her and she thanked him by constantly messing up his life.
Nick Coban Marissa didn’t force Lindsey to do anything! And Marisa didn’t mess up his life! Marissa suffered from depression and addiction but ignorant fans like yourself love to ignore those facts as if illnesses as those can just be put away
kirstenrox234, looking back on s1 now and the start of Marissa truly spiralling out of control and I find I have to disagree with you. Not for a moment saying they're things that can just be put away but they are issues that, if that's the hand you've been dealt in life, then the onus is on you to address it and she repeatedly chose not to.
Double Vision she’s been dead for over a decade and still has u pressed. The power she has. The lack of life u have.
NolanEP kapp
I know what you mean, its frustrating to watch her do things to get herself and others into trouble but she is meant to be 17! She was basically abandoned by her father and had a mother who never cared for her i think we can cut her some slack for not understanding or knowing how to cope with all the things that happen to her. She's basically still a child.
One of my favorite scenes period in this series
It was all directed at Marissa, but it’s the first and only time Seth looks legitimately afraid of Ryan
0:42 FHINE
Boidink Twistie oh u plan to mock Ryan sweet.
lulwut
Boidink Twistie YAS!
I WAS LIKE : OOOOOOOOH DAYMMMMMM
he was really angry
Yaaaaassss, Ryan! Let her have it. "So this is the part where you blame it all on me?", I thought he'd say, 'Oh, you'd like that wouldn't you? For this drama to revolve around you". Marissa's a child, and she knew she deserved a telling off with her reaction at 0:36. Ryan's home truth's were spot on!
fancy0face WTF it'll be better if Marissa took it out on u someday. If I saw her take it out on u I'll be laughing at u. sucker
Not spot on. Because it turned out that Ryan and Lindsay are brother and sister. Which means he shouldn't have feelings for someone that is his sister. But it's like Ryan blames Marissa for no reason and he shouldn't get all angry at Marissa like that.
hes lowkey right...😭
you tell her ryan!
fleurgi oh give me a break Ryan is a total bastard who don't give a fuck about anyone but himself
i can definitely see why ryan was frustrated at marissa, but the hurt on marissa’s face kills me. i’m glad they fixed things later onwards though. i feel like if marissa’s life was less messed up, she and ryan could’ve been more than a perfect match!! i would’ve liked to see more ryissa scenes but with no excess drama.
They shouldn't have fixed things onwards though. Because I feel like if Ryan's life was less messed up then he wouldn't need to blame Marissa for anything at all. Because I was never a fan of ryissa since they broke up and Marissa moved on to be with someone that she loves a lot and that is Alex.
She did coerce Lindsay into it though. Alex shouldn't have gotten in the middle of it, that's between Ryan and Marissa.
Alex is right even if you don't want to admit that.
Alex always bothered the crap out of me
The Chino Kid was about to whoop that ass
dude I wanted to punch her here. She was such a useless character
I actually loved that she defended marissa
@@mfancyketchup6701 fr
nah i think alex just didn’t really the context of the situation. so i’m glad she tried to defend marissa.
I’m always shocked by how much the fans didn’t all love or like Marissa, I always liked her and even related to her a bit. I understood why Ryan was angry, but she didn’t deserve that, and it’s super interesting how since this show came out a while ago, the focus was never on mental illness, addiction, depression. It was always said in different ways but now in 2020 looking back it’s like yeah Marissa had a lot of problems and went through a lot of things...Again not her fault, people can be so harsh damn, show some kindness
I think that a problem is that Marissa didn't understand how much trouble she caused for Ryan, and I think in some ways she was sheltered from worse troubles. That's not to say she didn't have problems at home, but I think Marissa growing up in an environment where consequences aren't dire, in the grand scheme of things, may have put people off from her character.
Looking at Ryan, who didn't have a great home life, and probably had no advantages in his young life, it's easier to see his desire to change. It didn't help that Marissa got involved with troubled crowds, and she turned to booze and drugs. Even if she didn't want to be preppy and peppy like Taylor (who was masking horrible insecurities herself), that was not a wise move for her to make.
Not everything was Marissa's fault though, as Julie was not a very good mother. And, I think Marissa needed more time to finally get serious help, but she was killed off before making a change.
@@Joe_Parmesan Well said! 👏
@@Joe_Parmesan yeah exactly. just when marissa was going to work on a boat and getting a change in her life, she was killed off. she could’ve had great character development from there point onwards.
Marissa isn't blameless here. She coerced Lindsay into it.
Ryan isn't blameless here. Because he let Lindsay to hang out with Marissa and no one told Lindsay to not keep on drinking alcohol tbh.
Lindsay was cute af. Hollywood should've done more with that actress.
Shafer Hart I agree and she’s also a great actress
Now that the fact that Ben and Marissa dated and she broke it off with him and he apparently felt a lot of resentment has come out, scenes like this feel a lot more uh...."real."
Really ?! How much time did they spend together ?
I need the whole cast to just retell their stories cause she’s the only one irl who has and a lot of them contradict what the other cast members say. It’s annoying 😭
@@spookysins4784 i’m searching for it till i finished the 1rst season , but i didn’t find anything 😭 i know rachel bilson ( summer) did a sort of podcast about the o.c. With some of the main actors but i don’t think they explain what happened between them. I’d love to see a reunion of the cast anyway 🙈
I'm not even that much of a Marissa fan however I'll always think that was not deserved and really harsh of Ryan... Lindsay's responsible for her own decisions you can't blame Marissa for possibly "inspiring" one of them l
CK Ck oh it sounds like to me that we have another Marissa hater what did Marissa ever do to u? cheap shit
Are you broken? do you have a head injury??
SRHD Gaming No do u?
Sarah Heizer can you read?
@@pinkaholicsarah1796 are you stupid?
Marissa irritates me so get her Ryan
Tad Strange Marissa is my best friend u back off her give her a break u dimwit
Sarah Heizer she's so monotone, whiny and pathetic
Marissa had mental illness. her life was crappy enough without fans giving her a hard time.
Tad Strange oh be quiet ryan is whiny and a total jerk. Role play Marissa should be the one that yells at Ryan. Ryan Atwood u piece of shit. Lmfao.
Yeah her life was crappy enough with fans giving her a hard time.
Wow at all the anti Marissa comments! I really hope none of your loved ones ever struggle with depression and addiction (though I wouldn’t have been surprised if Marissa had bipolar) Yes she was chaotic and Ryan often had to deal with that. But he loved her and she loved him and it’s not like she wanted to be the way she was. She just needed the right help.
Marissa is not exactly a very popular character. I guess you just have to deal with it. Would help her popularity if she wouldn´t be so damn passive and weak about literally anything.
That's an excuse! She came from a privileged background but lacked integrity. People like her ruin themselves and others.
@@critical_analysis You clearly have no understanding or sympathy for people with depression and poor mental health or of the terrible toll addiction can take on a person. I'm not excusing all of Marissa's behaviour however I am stating people are being to hard on her. Like you, they are acting like she is just a spoiled party girl who just wants to have a good time and doesn't know when to stop. However it isn't. She is depressed and doesn't know how to deal with her negative emotions, so she buries them in drink and drugs. Her privileged background is irrelevant. Rich people can suffer from depression too.
@@NarnianHogwart Just to clarify, I am always sympathetic towards people who learn from their mistakes and put earnest efforts to overcome issues.
The basic traits which differentiate a human from animals are his self-control, discipline and learning from mistakes. Without these traits, we are no better than animals. Marissa was given numerous chances to redeem herself but she always had issues in controlling herself and ruined not only her life but also made life miserable of her loved ones. She was sent to therapists for treatment, had loving friends, a dedicated lover, a loving father and so on, but still she did not have the courage or strength to overcome her demons.
Indulging in mindless and meaningless sex, cheating are no excuses for depression. Marissa is probably one of the shallowest mainstream TV characters without any interest or talents or any passion. She was always indulged in drugs, alcohol, and sex. She was academically poor, never had any interest in arts/sports/creative skills or any other skills for that matter but simply indulged in drugs, alcohol and sex.
That is the reason you see even a person like Ryan who loved her unconditionally loses his temper and states that she ruins everything.
I always look up to people who rise to the top without any support and overcome tremendous odds because of their strength of character. Everyone in this world has some issues, but we should strive to overcome those and become a better human, if we don't do that, then our lives become miserable and we make life hell for our loved ones.
That's of little comfort to a character like Ryan. He was trying lead a better life which Marissa almost destroyed more than once. The first time, deciding to cope with her problems through drinking, being too drunk to drive and having an open container in the car, which forced Ryan into a position of having to drive her home while he was on probation. The second situation, Oliver, and the way she neglected their relationship for him, and disregarded Ryan's feelings as jealousy. Yea, Seth didn't have his back either but his relationship with Seth is different to Marissa's. He was intimate with Marissa; physically, emotionally. Feelings were involved. Makes the abandonment/betray much, much worse.
It wasn't intentional, but she dragged him down. His reaction here, although disproportionate to the immediate situation, is completely justified for the overall context of their relationship.
This the best part of the season
It's her own fault she is who she is but when she was with Ryan she became a better person she wanted to be for RYAN
0:42 DAYMMMM
i dont think she deserved it. i mean, yeah she made a lot of mistakes but this wasn't her fault.
Lindsay HAD free will! As if people are blaming marissa.
Frr i dont like marissa but cleary it was lindsays fault
poor marissa :(
She had it coming
Really???
poor ryan :(
I much prefer Ryan and Taylor... I never thought Id think that!
1918Kayleigh They can have each other, Taylor is disgusting
I much prefer Ryan and Summer. Because they're always playful with each other and have more in common with each other like the whole privacy thing. Because Ryan would somehow like her Dad Neal Roberts.
It’s really Ryan’s fault because he made Linsey hang out with marissa even though she didn’t want to
It’s not Ryan or Marissa’s fault that Lindsey got wasted. Lindsey chose to drink the way she did. I get she felt pressure by Marissa and Alex who were experienced drinkers. But she still chose to drink.
but ryan obviously didn’t expect all of them to get drunk? he just wanted them to be friends.
Yeah Ryan just wanted them to be friends and that's true. But it shouldn't matter that he didn't expect all of them to get drunk. Because that had nothing to do with him at all.
Ouch ouch ouch and ouch!
I KNOW I'm gonna get serious hate for this. But after so much problems these two went through, I think Taylor was the healthier choice for Ryan. Marissa was a dark tunnel for Ryan for a long time, and Taylor was the light at the end of it. Her positive outlook combined with her more thoughtful nature and natural quirkiness made for a breath of fresh air. But that's my opinion
Ashley Morales omg I totally agree. And honestly after everything marissa put Ryan through, she deserved to be yelled at. It gave me some satisfaction to be honest.
Ashley Morales if it makes you feel
better I think the same, Marissa was a massive ball of problems and I was tired of her, every chapter was chaos with her life.
And Taylor, I really think she is the best for Ryan, she is funny, sweet, cute, intelligent, good and a lovely character
I agree there was so much damage done that I don’t think it would have worked out between Ryan and Marisa
titi smith I mean I was so relaxed when she died, because Ryan was save and without troubles the whole season 4
Ashley Morales it’s sad to see people put down ppl with mental issues. Marissa suffered from depression and addiction.
Lindsay and Ryan together were so lame
He should have punched Alex and Marissa - that would have been funny
That wouldn't be funny
LOL
che puntata è?
Marissa💗💔
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0:43
What's the season ? And the episode ?
It was S2 but I don’t know which episode
@@mammaboy1 2x09
i never really never liked marissa
Sarah Heizer haha why are you so mad?
Marissa is a bitch !
sysgh idk what ur talkin about
Blown Mind marissa is awesome. and Ryan hmm a total ass?
If i sew this scane i flt bad ryan to marissa i m hurt cause ryan talk to shout with marissa love u marissa
What did happen to Ryan why was he wet?
melanie borges cuz he was looking for Lindsey in the water
Sarah Heizer lmfao
ItsJustMel lol
Yeah that was when Seth told Ryan that Lindsay is passed out in Alex's office in The Bait Shop.
Ho season 2, sorry ;)
lindsay and ryan terrible couple
Why would it be Marissa's responsibility to look after Lindsay? Marissa is not her babysitter. Lindsay is old enough to decide how much she drinks.