@@hamzahaxyeah but even though it's not easy also tekken 8 Jin is more stronger than before. I am simply in love with his gameplay and especially his movements
Not gonna lie this is the problem with fans ya'll like putting a concerning amount of salt on a wound Atif won CEO be proud of that and not just slap all his defeats in his face
cant speak for everyone but can say with confidence a lot of us will thoroughly enjoy whatever content you put out simply cos ur a cool as dude, hope ur still loving making content as much as we love watching it
@@doublejacketjimmy391 the fact that there were 3 Jins to beat is a clear signal that there is something broken with Jin. Atif is just on a level of his own.
@@B1gLupu Just because a player can play tekken well with a character doesn't mean the character is inherently broken/OP. Evidentally if you study the match up and you're good at tekken yourself, you can beat him. When was the last time we saw this many jins? We just happen to get a tournament where most of the jin specialists were competeing and doing well. But they all got stopped. Some of Jin's big weaknesses is the amount of gaps he has and the fact that he is the most popular character so most people know his basics. I can't tell you how many times people duck punish with consistency and react to d2. Every character in this game has some sort of "bs". People just cry louder because now Jin isn't delegated to only being for those specialists to get good mileage out of him. Imo he's perfect where he's at. There are plenty of characters that are flat out better than him, and characters that are weaker, and the balance changes should address under performing characters to bring them up instead of nerfing everything to the ground.
I think everyone agrees Jin needs a nerf, I have him as a 2nd character backup and he feels a little too strong. I still have much to learn about his playstyle but thats what I've been seeing in my games.
@@zetsuz3828 he went from top 3 to like somewhere outside top 5. Did you not see how bad dragunovs (outside of Atif) did in the tournament? If the best players in the world like Ulsan can't win with Drag, top 5 is a strech.
@@B1gLupu Nerfs are not that sufficient, pro players just figured out the matchup, which goes without saying, given how often they had to deal with this character.
I would love it if you would continue just snowing good matches, already watch your vod of the top 8. I feel like part of your value as a commentator is showing matches we didn't knoe we wanted to see
Phi, i believe in you and I wanna see you commentating AT major tournaments. In order for you to be considered at that level. YOU HAVE TO WORK ON NOT CURSING! Start today!
Damn Daniel mado played so shit I just have to say it like that, he pressed so much after getting hit I thought for a second I watch a green rank Jin, then at 4:53 he pressed after ballerina spin and got easily killed for it (it puts you at like -13). I didn't understand his gameplan at all here
atif plays kuma and he had more than enough knowledge to beat kuma, credit goes to rangchu and still atif played very good 2nd place from looser side is still an achievement
Complete downplay of rangchu as a player to say he only won because of matchup knowledge , you're making exeuses for his loss. Rangchu was better in that set so he won. While against drag at that, learning a matchup doesn't mean you'll beat everyone on that character btw.
Atif knows kuma very well, he used to play him. There were some nerves because Arslan and Jon got eliminated but ultimately he lost because rangchu was simply better, stop with the disrespect.
@ i aint singling atif out but the whole pakistani pro players bruh.. they too good, wayy too good!! almost winning every tournaments they join. either win 1st, second, or 3rd almost all the time..
The grand finals of tekken are always bogus and bullshit. Losers side is at a disadvantage, which doesn't happen in any other sport. Imagine in soccer, if in the finals, one team got a 3-goal headstart! I think there shouldn't be any advantage in the grand finals. In fact, I think the person qualifying from losers side has a more difficult journey than the one in winners side; every match for them is an elimination match, while asswipes on the winners side keep joining the losers bracket. Overall, tekken tournaments are designed to keep talented players from winning tournaments.
Everyone in the tournament has two lives; why should the grand finals suddenly take one of players' lives? Yes winners' side progresses faster and losers' side is harder
You know that's how it's always been right? Hell in basketball, a team can get home court advantage for having a higher seed which means a lot for the mental of the players Also, if those players were as talented as you said, they'd be in the Winners side instead of Losers. Just doesnt work like that. They are all talented and the better player will win despite the disadvantages
The Loser's side is supposed to be at a disadvantage.....THEY LOST AND GOT SENT DOWN THERE. You are not supposed to reward failure. Loser's side should not even exist.....it should first to 5 total elimination. If you lose....youre out.
The player in losers only has a harder journey because they have already lost once. They make their job difficult themselves. In fact, the system is civil enough to give them a second chance *after* losing. We can argue balancing and chars and everything, but regarding tournament rules, they specifically work in a way that benefits the strongest and most consistent player, which was without a doubt Rangchu, whilst still giving a fair chance to the other players who have lost once, but may still adapt and overcome the challenge. It seems unfathomable that a grown up adult, with a functioning brain and voting rights, can't seem to grasp something so simple. Please, take some moments to think and realize how tournaments work before embarrassing yourself again.
Now I don’t wanna hear Jin is S tier. He’s not. He got his ass handed to him by Drag and the latter proceed to get HIS ass handed to him by Rangchu’s Kuma.
Take a good long look at how many Jin players there were with deep runs in this tournament. When Dragunov had this much representation, he got nerfed and there is a lot less. Not to mention that Jin's best tool is reactable by pros in offline, online it's basically unreactable.
Atif murdered all 3 Jins
Atif playe Jin in older Tekken alot
he's aware of his bs
@@hamzahaxyeah but even though it's not easy also tekken 8 Jin is more stronger than before.
I am simply in love with his gameplay and especially his movements
He Hella Locked in after the Arslan loss. One day he will win it all.
@@hamzahaxIn older Tekken Jin had no bs.
Now I don’t wanna hear Jin is S tier. He’s not.
I have become Atif, the destroyer of Jins
Atif has a phenomenal record vs Jin players. 2-0 vs Raef at DH Dallas, 5-2 vs Cbm at EWC and now these 3 murders at TWT finals
Atif... Unlickiest player of this year...
EVO 2nd
EWC 2nd
TWT 2nd
like qudans in 2018 TWT EVO and CEO all 2nd and lost to rangchu
Lacks practice and over confident.
Not using other characters
@@raheelali973 getting 2nd isn’t lacking practice but okay
Bro is harry kane of tekken
That tells he's the most consistent player in tekken. I think he's a better player than arslan but that's a hot take
I really feel for Atif ngl. Man ended up 2nd three times this year. EVO in Vegas, EWC, and now TWT Finals.
I felt for him during awards distribution seeing him crying 🙂
Feel bad for Atif man, such good Tekken from him all year but always one step short of the trophy
Not gonna lie this is the problem with fans ya'll like putting a concerning amount of salt on a wound
Atif won CEO be proud of that and not just slap all his defeats in his face
@@petergriffin5539arslan won evo no¿ no Salt just wondering
@@arrozhuevo6735 yes
He's the most consistent player in tekken. But coming 2nd three times in a row gotta hurt bad.
AK moment 😂
having a playlist with it all in chronological order would be baller my brotha
cant speak for everyone but can say with confidence a lot of us will thoroughly enjoy whatever content you put out simply cos ur a cool as dude, hope ur still loving making content as much as we love watching it
"Jin needs buffs" 😂😂😂
Atif beat 3 Jin specialists he indeed needs buffs. Jin is in shambles.
@@doublejacketjimmy391 the fact that there were 3 Jins to beat is a clear signal that there is something broken with Jin.
Atif is just on a level of his own.
@@doublejacketjimmy391 wtf u smoking u salty hater
@@B1gLupu Just because a player can play tekken well with a character doesn't mean the character is inherently broken/OP. Evidentally if you study the match up and you're good at tekken yourself, you can beat him. When was the last time we saw this many jins? We just happen to get a tournament where most of the jin specialists were competeing and doing well. But they all got stopped.
Some of Jin's big weaknesses is the amount of gaps he has and the fact that he is the most popular character so most people know his basics. I can't tell you how many times people duck punish with consistency and react to d2. Every character in this game has some sort of "bs". People just cry louder because now Jin isn't delegated to only being for those specialists to get good mileage out of him. Imo he's perfect where he's at. There are plenty of characters that are flat out better than him, and characters that are weaker, and the balance changes should address under performing characters to bring them up instead of nerfing everything to the ground.
@@ryanyaques9500 What gaps? And also what characters are better than Jin?
Jin has no clear weaknesses, he has both good offensive and defensive tools.
3:44 AH! HN! HA!!!!!
5:04 oh my god tekken 8 is all buttons
6:46 Yes Yes Check Him
6:48 OH 😮
" Beating aggression with Straight DEFENSE " okay but what if we beat him with gay defense
This joke would have done numbers in 2009
Ain't nothing straight about me, and that includes my defense 😤
You become the Queen of the Iron Fist Tournament
PhiDX always doing the heatsmash noises has me rolling 😂
It's so hard not to do them for Dragunov 😂 I always do em too
PhiDX, this commentary of yours is The Best. You get into it and not hesitate to fire jokes off. I like this so much.
4:25 clever use of chip damage.
Atif did a banger job
I wish we could see Atif’s Jin again
"Now I've become Atif , The destroyer of Jins "
Great job Atif
I love your Energy in this video!
I just saw the outro and ITS FIRE 🔥!!
I prefer to watch the matches that you think would make a more interesting discussion. I really enjoy your breakdowns and I always learn something new
Phi please do yourself and everyone else a favor by becoming a commentator for the next twt
Nice thumbnail of Atif. He's easy on the eyes
I never want to hear the sentence "Jin needs buffs" ever again.
Buffs? He needs nerfs
I think everyone agrees Jin needs a nerf, I have him as a 2nd character backup and he feels a little too strong. I still have much to learn about his playstyle but thats what I've been seeing in my games.
This just proves jin's down 2 needs to launch on normal hit and we need to nerf devil jin to the ground.
Chronology of the matches really don't matter phi. Most people are super busy so they want to see the best matches
"Jin downplayers frothing at the mouth for the chance to downplay Jin again" 😂😂😂
spoiler!
8:00 wise words from a wise man
"jin downplayers frothing at the mouth..." hahaha i fucking died
Atif the jin slayer
PhiDX cheering for Atif like Drag is not the same monster matchup as Jin is 😂😂😂
Dragu has been nerfed repeatedly. All the oppressive moves from Drag, so Hatchet, QCF4 and WR2 have all been tuned down massively.
@@B1gLupu Okay, maybe he has been moved from TOP-1 to TOP-2, it doesn't change the fact.
@@zetsuz3828 he went from top 3 to like somewhere outside top 5. Did you not see how bad dragunovs (outside of Atif) did in the tournament?
If the best players in the world like Ulsan can't win with Drag, top 5 is a strech.
@@B1gLupu Nerfs are not that sufficient, pro players just figured out the matchup, which goes without saying, given how often they had to deal with this character.
@@B1gLupuur smoking crack
I wanna see whatever you enjoy analyzing. I trust your judgement to show me good matches and explain why it's so good
"Atif absorbed Ulsan's power" lmaooo true that, bro even picked Ulsan's fav Drag costume. 😂
appreciate all the content boss 🫡
Drag still busted. Glad Atif tier whoring self was beat. 😊
And Kuma murdered all dragonov and atif
You'll forever be my favourite commentator, Phi.
The Outro is amazing❤️
I would love it if you would continue just snowing good matches, already watch your vod of the top 8. I feel like part of your value as a commentator is showing matches we didn't knoe we wanted to see
God these vids are so good, even after watching ot live
good matches
I would like to see good matches and the grand final. Thanks for the work.
dang some of these sets are just so good
Master class!
I wonder if all of this deep thinking in pro matches done consciously or subconsciously.
LCQ was easily the best matches
7:50 bro thought this was Tekken 7😂
Phi, i believe in you and I wanna see you commentating AT major tournaments. In order for you to be considered at that level. YOU HAVE TO WORK ON NOT CURSING! Start today!
Atif just doing his job fr
Atif loser run is so insane ❤
don't forget dragunov broken mouvement also
so.... you are not posting any video on Rangchu...
Atif changed his tactic, Daniel didn't. That doesn't mean people were wrong. lol.
Atif : )
shoutDX
I need a phidx tmm dual com pronto
I have one very important Question what the HELL happen to Yagami We saw him 1 once
last time I was this early covid started
Jin stays getting beat by Dragunov lol
I be wanting Jin to win but then it would add to the “invincible character” agenda so he just gotta chalk it up to the game man lol
Him being broken before Drag is a filthy propaganda.
@@xXSonTJXx”agenda” that shit true asf tho 😂😂
@ yet he loses all the time at the top of tournaments lol still a strong character and top 5 tho
the plus frame/back off for parry then engage strat… something I’m most def taking 🤘🏽 thx phi! Keep the great content coming 👑
Are you practicing to be a commentator, Phi?
PhiDx cosplay dragonuv!!!!!
I want Jin to get nerfed so I can not feel like a turd playing him. I'm not touching him until then
Not clicking away today cuz i watched the twt finals, but i usually click away due to spoilers
Just to let you know
Sick gameplay but it really is a shame how drag still has a solid KBD (insane execution by atif) but most of the cast kinda doesn’t
2nd in evo 2nd in ewc and now 2nd in twt. it must be hard
Dude's having AK moments
@@kusakabehibana31 Ak only came 2nd in evo jp. Atif came 2nd in three biggest tk8 tournaments.
Just show good matches.
no guessing right is king
be more apologetic to this awful game design
Damn Daniel mado played so shit I just have to say it like that, he pressed so much after getting hit I thought for a second I watch a green rank Jin, then at 4:53 he pressed after ballerina spin and got easily killed for it (it puts you at like -13). I didn't understand his gameplan at all here
nerf the jailing mechanic..
Atif will win next year
Nerf Devil Jin
Atif's Basics are unmatched he's just lost because of less practice with this match-up kuma is not that hard to learn
atif plays kuma and he had more than enough knowledge to beat kuma, credit goes to rangchu and still atif played very good 2nd place from looser side is still an achievement
Complete downplay of rangchu as a player to say he only won because of matchup knowledge , you're making exeuses for his loss. Rangchu was better in that set so he won. While against drag at that, learning a matchup doesn't mean you'll beat everyone on that character btw.
Rangchu outplayed him heavily just like Ulsan did at Gamers8. Stop with the bullshit and being disrespectful to the other finalists.
Atif knows kuma very well, he used to play him. There were some nerves because Arslan and Jon got eliminated but ultimately he lost because rangchu was simply better, stop with the disrespect.
Rangchu was just better that day / the time frame. it happens.
Sick and tired of pakistani pro players dragunov and nina .. glad they lost. They winning too much…
atif won 1 time not even with drag and nina won 1 time evo
@ i aint singling atif out but the whole pakistani pro players bruh.. they too good, wayy too good!! almost winning every tournaments they join. either win 1st, second, or 3rd almost all the time..
@@arielmadridejo yea alr i understand... and its sad that atif has been going 2nd every tourney. it weighs your mental so much.
Im Pakistani but im sayin lmao. Keisuke needs to get a dub stat
@ what is a dub stat?
The grand finals of tekken are always bogus and bullshit. Losers side is at a disadvantage, which doesn't happen in any other sport. Imagine in soccer, if in the finals, one team got a 3-goal headstart! I think there shouldn't be any advantage in the grand finals. In fact, I think the person qualifying from losers side has a more difficult journey than the one in winners side; every match for them is an elimination match, while asswipes on the winners side keep joining the losers bracket. Overall, tekken tournaments are designed to keep talented players from winning tournaments.
Everyone in the tournament has two lives; why should the grand finals suddenly take one of players' lives?
Yes winners' side progresses faster and losers' side is harder
You know that's how it's always been right? Hell in basketball, a team can get home court advantage for having a higher seed which means a lot for the mental of the players
Also, if those players were as talented as you said, they'd be in the Winners side instead of Losers. Just doesnt work like that. They are all talented and the better player will win despite the disadvantages
It seems like bro is new to fighting games.Grand finals reset exists in every fighting game lol
The Loser's side is supposed to be at a disadvantage.....THEY LOST AND GOT SENT DOWN THERE. You are not supposed to reward failure.
Loser's side should not even exist.....it should first to 5 total elimination. If you lose....youre out.
The player in losers only has a harder journey because they have already lost once. They make their job difficult themselves.
In fact, the system is civil enough to give them a second chance *after* losing.
We can argue balancing and chars and everything, but regarding tournament rules, they specifically work in a way that benefits the strongest and most consistent player, which was without a doubt Rangchu, whilst still giving a fair chance to the other players who have lost once, but may still adapt and overcome the challenge.
It seems unfathomable that a grown up adult, with a functioning brain and voting rights, can't seem to grasp something so simple.
Please, take some moments to think and realize how tournaments work before embarrassing yourself again.
Now I don’t wanna hear Jin is S tier. He’s not. He got his ass handed to him by Drag and the latter proceed to get HIS ass handed to him by Rangchu’s Kuma.
oh brother
Jin downplayer spotted 👆👆👆👆
Just because Atif is good you can't degrade characters
Take a good long look at how many Jin players there were with deep runs in this tournament. When Dragunov had this much representation, he got nerfed and there is a lot less.
Not to mention that Jin's best tool is reactable by pros in offline, online it's basically unreactable.
doublejackjimmy ohhhh boy jin is fkin S+ tier i think its ur first time
Atif destroyed all jin 🔥🔥🔥