This man is a true artist all his creations are unique every video is as writing history mark your blades with your symbol, thousands of years from now they will be in museums or in the hands of people fighting for freedom.
I got my magic pen and forge hammer on the black market...shhhhh just don't tell anyone! Now tell me how you get such a nice finish right out of the quench without using any anti-scale. Soap? You are not using salts. More magic items you have that YOU got off the black market? Tell me your secrets...please. :)
The blade is still covered in a light layer of scale that needs to be sanded off. If the blade goes into the heat treat clean and the temp is right for the steel, most of the scale flakes off in big pieces at the quench. Be careful with those black market forge pen/hammer sets, sometimes they explode on impact.
To be fair, this is mostly fabrication techniques. I have no idea how I’d form such a blade with nothing but a forge, anvil, and hammer as I’m a novice. Still impressive work!
No, I'd say that (with the exception of pattern welded steel) the steel mill does considerably More than I do by hand. The steel is poured several inched thick at the mill and is then rolled and refined out to a fraction of an inch in thickness. Far more forging happens at the mill than most do by hand.
I ACTUALLY thought soemthing was up with the magic pen.. I'm like.. The hell? Magic pen!?? Let me see.. Ah ok what is it? Like a torch or soemthing? He's cutting the shape out with some sort of pen torch!??? Man that's so cool.. And he just taps it and it comes apart like that.. Damn I gotta get one of those.. "just kidding, use the bandsaw" Annnnnnd I feel utterly dumb... 😂
Zach Beaman The blade is about 31 inches and shouldn't be much more than 4 pounds once it's done. It should be fairly useable in one hand but I prefer having both hands on. I'd call it more of a hand and a half or bastard sword. Jeffrey has done an outstanding job of realizing my sword!
Manuel Guerra Wow it looks much larger in the video, but at that length I agree it most likely is more of a hand and a half. If I may ask, where did you draw inspiration for this sword from?
There are still stresses in the steel from cutting and grinding as well as in a plain bar straight from the mill. Normalization is still needed to remove these stresses and to aid in refining grain structure. It's possible to skip the normalization in a stock removal blade, just as it's possible to skip it in a forged blade, but the results for either would be less than optimal.
brotherbanzai thank you for the response. I never would have thought about stresses from cutting/grinding or even from the mill. I forge and normalize but have wanted to try stock removal and wouldn’t have even considered normalizing my blade. Thanks again and beautiful work, I’ve subscribed!
Glad to help. If you ever do a really long blade by stock removal and then do the hardening without normalizing, you could get a nasty surprise. I've found, on a fairly regular basis when doing a forged and stock removal blade side by side in the heat treat, that the stock removal blade will need more normalizing than the forged one.
What Jeffrey said is dead on about stresses. As you take away material the piece is heated in that one local spot and will lead to stress risers later, corrosion and weakness. Also just hitting the metal will cold work it and cause the same. Jeffrey is a real professional. By the way...I'd love to try caribou! :)
Really enjoy your style of videos! When you are using the angle grinder to start the distal taper, are you counting your passes to ensure you are taking roughly the same amount from either side of the blade? Or do you just take care of that on the belt sander? Thanks!
I count the passes, but that's not super accurate as the amount of pressure and the speed you're moving at will vary as you work. I'm usually grinding to a line I've already measured out on the side of the blade and then fine tuning with the belt sander.
I like it a lot and use it for most of my monosteel blades. I leave a good bit of meat on the edge before heat treating, so even if there was more than the usual amount of decarb, I wouldn't have noticed it.
Do you have a preferred RC hardness for your swords or does the steel type dictate that? I’ve made several knives both forged and stock removal but have been itching to try a short sword. I’m sitting on some S7 but can’t seem to find any info online on the hardness after temper for a 16-18” blade.
It will depend to some extent on the steel. For the steel I use, I generally aim for the low to mod 50s. Generally speaking, shorter blades can go harder and swords with differential heat treating can have a harder edge is supported by a softer spine or core. Generally speaking.
Man I love watching you work
Thanks, glad you like it.
I'm very grateful every time you decide to gift us with a new upload.
Thank you, glad you like them.
This man is a true artist all his creations are unique every video is as writing history mark your blades with your symbol, thousands of years from now they will be in museums or in the hands of people fighting for freedom.
Thanks very much.
I got my magic pen and forge hammer on the black market...shhhhh just don't tell anyone! Now tell me how you get such a nice finish right out of the quench without using any anti-scale. Soap? You are not using salts. More magic items you have that YOU got off the black market? Tell me your secrets...please. :)
The blade is still covered in a light layer of scale that needs to be sanded off. If the blade goes into the heat treat clean and the temp is right for the steel, most of the scale flakes off in big pieces at the quench. Be careful with those black market forge pen/hammer sets, sometimes they explode on impact.
Magic forging wouldnt that be nice
If only
To be fair, this is mostly fabrication techniques. I have no idea how I’d form such a blade with nothing but a forge, anvil, and hammer as I’m a novice. Still impressive work!
Prometheus was punished by the Gods for giving man fire! They lied.. He gave man..the Angle grinder!
Your work is incredible ..... thumbs way up...
Thank you
Good to see ya back Banzai. Hope ya got some cool casting work planed for this!
Thanks. Nothing too extreme, the rest of the sword/scabbard will have a functional fantasy look.
Do you have a tempering oven for a blade that large or do you use a blow torch or something to temper? Thanks!
Would you say that the foundry that produces the bar stock has, more or less, done the same process, on a massive scale, that you would do by hand?
No, I'd say that (with the exception of pattern welded steel) the steel mill does considerably More than I do by hand. The steel is poured several inched thick at the mill and is then rolled and refined out to a fraction of an inch in thickness. Far more forging happens at the mill than most do by hand.
why was the band saw cutting so slowly?
David Cross Its a band saw, not really meant to hog off material super quickly with metal
I ACTUALLY thought soemthing was up with the magic pen.. I'm like.. The hell? Magic pen!?? Let me see.. Ah ok what is it? Like a torch or soemthing? He's cutting the shape out with some sort of pen torch!??? Man that's so cool.. And he just taps it and it comes apart like that.. Damn I gotta get one of those..
"just kidding, use the bandsaw"
Annnnnnd I feel utterly dumb... 😂
I enjoyed the humor, gave a good giggle!
Glad you liked it ;)
Thank you
You're welcome :)
Brilliant as always! I'm loving the size of that sword; looks like it's going to be a solid two hander.
Thank you.
Zach Beaman The blade is about 31 inches and shouldn't be much more than 4 pounds once it's done. It should be fairly useable in one hand but I prefer having both hands on. I'd call it more of a hand and a half or bastard sword. Jeffrey has done an outstanding job of realizing my sword!
Manuel Guerra Wow it looks much larger in the video, but at that length I agree it most likely is more of a hand and a half. If I may ask, where did you draw inspiration for this sword from?
Zach Beaman From one of my Dungeons & Dragons characters
Manuel Guerra Nice! I can't wait to see it finished
Just curious since it wasn’t forged why the normalizing cycles?
There are still stresses in the steel from cutting and grinding as well as in a plain bar straight from the mill. Normalization is still needed to remove these stresses and to aid in refining grain structure. It's possible to skip the normalization in a stock removal blade, just as it's possible to skip it in a forged blade, but the results for either would be less than optimal.
brotherbanzai thank you for the response. I never would have thought about stresses from cutting/grinding or even from the mill. I forge and normalize but have wanted to try stock removal and wouldn’t have even considered normalizing my blade. Thanks again and beautiful work, I’ve subscribed!
Glad to help. If you ever do a really long blade by stock removal and then do the hardening without normalizing, you could get a nasty surprise. I've found, on a fairly regular basis when doing a forged and stock removal blade side by side in the heat treat, that the stock removal blade will need more normalizing than the forged one.
What Jeffrey said is dead on about stresses. As you take away material the piece is heated in that one local spot and will lead to stress risers later, corrosion and weakness. Also just hitting the metal will cold work it and cause the same. Jeffrey is a real professional. By the way...I'd love to try caribou! :)
John T. Watterson III thanks for the additional info (and caribou is excellent. We Alaskans love it).
... and beard
for making a stock removal blade, what steel do you recommend and where could someone buy that steel bar?
Really enjoy your style of videos! When you are using the angle grinder to start the distal taper, are you counting your passes to ensure you are taking roughly the same amount from either side of the blade? Or do you just take care of that on the belt sander? Thanks!
I count the passes, but that's not super accurate as the amount of pressure and the speed you're moving at will vary as you work. I'm usually grinding to a line I've already measured out on the side of the blade and then fine tuning with the belt sander.
Always wanted this sword, Can you send me yours? Its awesome!
Thanks. I would definitely send it to you, but I don't have it anymore as the client who commissioned it got it once it was done.
How do you like that 80CrV2? Any issues with decarb?
I like it a lot and use it for most of my monosteel blades. I leave a good bit of meat on the edge before heat treating, so even if there was more than the usual amount of decarb, I wouldn't have noticed it.
Do you have a preferred RC hardness for your swords or does the steel type dictate that? I’ve made several knives both forged and stock removal but have been itching to try a short sword. I’m sitting on some S7 but can’t seem to find any info online on the hardness after temper for a 16-18” blade.
It will depend to some extent on the steel. For the steel I use, I generally aim for the low to mod 50s. Generally speaking, shorter blades can go harder and swords with differential heat treating can have a harder edge is supported by a softer spine or core. Generally speaking.
fantastic work,!!!! i'm always excited to see that you have posted a new project video. :-)
Thank you, glad you like it.
Thanks for posting Jeffrey. My sword is coming along beautifully!
You're welcome, glad you like it so far. Working on your guard and pommel now.
So the magic forge pen isn't even legal in Texas! I thought anything was legal here
Only if you can find one that was grandfathered in before the laws changed, very rare.
Hi Jeffery old boy how are things, drop me a line some time my friend.
Things are good, how's it going up north?
What happened to your glorious mustache?!?
I haven't had a mustache or beard in quite a while, and even then it was pretty closely trimmed.
Wheres the rest?
In the video title "Forge Free Fantasy Sword Part 2".
Thank you for not forgetting us .
You're welcome, more videos on the way at some point, just been really busy.
Great to see a new vid BB. Hey I'm back up north LOL.
What happened to Florida? Did you realize it sucks there?
Hey sorry I forgot I commented. No the wife kept coming back to visit her boyfriend so I moved out so she could just move him in :)
Well, glad you extricated yourself from that situation.
Seeing you use "plate steel" , hoping you dont start speaking in a Irish accent and making swords that weight 75 lbs lol.
Dats bretty swet brah
Thanks
did you get my pm bro?
Just got it. RUclips is getting rid of their pm system shortly.
yes! awesome, havent even watched it through yet. clicked immediately.
Thanks :)