This needed platform is becoming more mature and insightfu byl every broadcast. Everything need training/schooling by those gifted, talented exposed or skilled/trained for relevance direction /guidance or maximization. This notion of saying doing things the natural way and it should not be taught to me it brings more harm than good. Apostle Paul addressed this seemingly legalistic and static mindset in, Philippians 4:8. Whatever is excellent, prudent etc... Keep going with this noble platform for learning unlearning and relearning. Shalom
Let us be realistic and help the woman who is not getting certified with kadora. The woman needs help, not criticism. Advice the woman that both of them should come up with foul play to make their bedroom enjoyable. Machinda, we all know kuti hombe dziriko uye diki dziriko. Don't make her regret asking for help. Advise her kuti romance ngaiwande dora risati rapinda maari. And avoid everything to make it a Christian pospetive . You have a wider audience. Let's try to reach everyone.
Next week ngavadzoke vari 2 vafundisi ava. I see their clips on RUclips, and they are great marriage teachers. I am an single guy and I am really learning a lot.
Gents muri kubata basa, thanks a lot you are discussing hot topics dzaiva taboo tichikura but this why our generation is lost. Evangelist Marufu vano layer ma facts zvaari and funny at the same time.Please this shouldn’t be Apostle Joe Daniels last visit. The three of you guys were in sync. Yakurumidza yapera guys. Twice a week munenge matigonera
Itai muchiisa same question to both parties. Let them debate on the issue. I sensed a little avoidance to disagreement. Make the conversation open. I think that will be the best for us who are watching to learn
If you listen carefully the two guests were actually giving different explanations, the idea is not debate but discussion , there is no one answer to these questions. Debate unfortunately wastes time because someone needs the last day, yet in most cases you are saying the same thing in different ways , in principle the point is the same, but what is important is to have it from different angles so that more people relate. Debate is not good, it's about ego and brings negative emotions. Discussion ndiyo mboma ...
@@shiningstartomoro6772 I disagree, debate is not all about ego but expressing your true feelings about a topic and this brings clarity and can be used as a way of finding common ground rather than hiding one's true opinions
@@keithmawodzwaMy whole response is not premised on the ego issue per SE, we can remove the ego component in my response bro. I am simply saying there are disagreeing without emphasizing the disagreement part, which is what debate does, because in debate there has to be a winner of the topic. This is a discussion , if you listen carefully there are both expressing their points in slightly different ways, marufu is touching other aspects joe Daniels is not and vice versa, it is still enriching , because in principle they are agreeing but their understanding of the issues by virtue of them having different life experiences and schooling they are not giving identical answers ... The fact that you prefer debate is what prompted me to say you are looking for a kind of energy and vigour that traditional debate brings , like I said people go back and forth on one point in debate, they can get emotional. I have studied a lot of debates, in most cases people are saying the same thing in different ways , they just want the next person to use their same words to an issue, or sometimes you are just not understanding what the other person is trying to say because you are hell bent on making your point. Generally we are not good listeners and even readers. Sometimes you may need to read a message three times and look at a possible 3 different meanings from the same message to understand what the other person is saying , but the moment you pick that maybe I am disagreeing with you , you end up reading the whole passage already engulfed in your own thoughts waiting to reply, or you end up picking one part of a whole passage and extract it then respond to it, but neglecting the whole context of the passage , the same thing all these prophets do with bible verses, they run away from the context of the whole bible and focus on their own narratives.
Why should we debate if there is no answer , if there is no one size fits all. Because both answers can apply so what is there to debate, we can only discuss, like when they started marufu talked about forgiveness needing divine intervention. Joe Daniels went further and explained the processes in between before divine intervention, he expanded the response to break it down more and explain the role of the forgiver in healing in order to connect with the divine, so that is enriching , instead of them debating that no forgiveness needs healing and not divine intervention. In debate we tend to deliberately avoid agreeing even on issues we agree so that one of us appears more knowledgeable , people end up disagreeing for the sake of it, most debates end up being petty. A mature debate is exactly what is happening here, there are saying their point in different ways , and they are both learning from each other. These issues require discussions, so that we all get an opportunity to learn a thing or two ... It is simply iron sharpening iron. Like I said before these things have no one answer. If we debate who is going to determine the winner, who are the judges and what are the parameters for assessment. Let us discuss and not debate.
There is no divine power that allows u a man to forgive an unfaithful woman... Mwari instructed you to divorce that woman and such a lady should never be married again
Regai tiisewo muwono wangu panyaya yekuwacha maunderwears.... Ini ndichikura ndaidzidziswa kuti pandinogeza paye ndipo pandinogezawo underwear yangu. So pandinongogeza, i make sure i was my pant. Zvitori mandiri kuzvigezera.
Phatisani's question about divorce was very good but wasn't complete and so was answered incorrectly. The question is about marriage and divorce and marrying again. God hates divorce but people are free to divorce if they can't stay together but remarrying is where the problem is. The only recorded reason for divorcing and marrying again is fornication not adultery. The apostle erred there. Fornication and adultery are one same act but the player status is what makes the difference. Mathew 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for *fornication,* and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. The issue is on marrying another. Divorce for your own reasons apart from fornication but stay single until the other part dies.
This is pure sexist. If you expect women to forgive men who commit infidelity, the same expectation should be applied to women who commit infidelity. Bottom line, everyone should be faithful!
I don't think they disagree with your point that everyone should be faithful, there is no point they suggested that men can be unfaithful, truth be told, the way we are structured a family that holds and goes the distance more often than not has a strong woman, the strength of a woman and that of a man are different, notwithstanding some outliers. No matter how hard we try, we will never change how we were designed, man and woman are not the same, they were created to complement each other. The do have similarities but they also have differences, so we are not carbon copy we are different by design and we must embrace that and co - exist and not try to substitute each other. That structure does not hold of women who want be like men, and men who want to be like women, we are doomed as a people once it gets there.
Tiripo madzimai tirikuzvinzwa😂😂😂😂
But pafair chaipo this Dare is jus too gd❤......tirikudzidza
Ini I appreciate the respect and the common ground these men give to each other despite each being big in their own right
This Dare is very educative and more entertaining than Dstv and Netflex combined!
taura hako
Agreed 💯
Dare iri should be twice a week guys
I agree
Phathisani ,your panel is now well balanced and complete
Team kukambura let's gather here
Tiripo baba kukambura sembwa
Wow apostle Joe Daniel's on the show nice to have you 👍
Thanks for increasing makurukota emudfare with Apostle Joe Daniels. It helps give different views on issues
Thank you phathisani fr bringing those two good teachers
Pano parikudzidzwa ndatoonawo pandiri kurasika thank you guys. Your combination makadai moto 🔥🔥🔥
This needed platform is becoming more mature and insightfu byl every broadcast.
Everything need training/schooling by those gifted, talented exposed or skilled/trained for relevance direction /guidance or maximization.
This notion of saying doing things the natural way and it should not be taught to me it brings more harm than good. Apostle Paul addressed this seemingly legalistic and static mindset in,
Philippians 4:8. Whatever is excellent, prudent etc...
Keep going with this noble platform for learning unlearning and relearning.
Shalom
Entertaining and informative...worthy listening
I have always wanted apostle Joe Daniel’s to be part of this. Hopefully we will go to 100th episode.
Aiwa iDare, thank you so much.
Let us be realistic and help the woman who is not getting certified with kadora. The woman needs help, not criticism. Advice the woman that both of them should come up with foul play to make their bedroom enjoyable. Machinda, we all know kuti hombe dziriko uye diki dziriko. Don't make her regret asking for help. Advise her kuti romance ngaiwande dora risati rapinda maari.
And avoid everything to make it a Christian pospetive . You have a wider audience. Let's try to reach everyone.
MARUFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU KKKKK CHAKAIPA ICHO
This combination is lekker 😂😂😂😂😂
Toda twice week plizz phatisani
My fav people together 🔥🔥🔥
Pasara Apostle Chiwenga 😂
Pairwiwa
Tikudzidza wo pano👏👏👏👏
Hmmm dare iri rachabestera varume vakawanda gentlemen even isusu tisaty taroora, this discussion are very insightful
Dare Guru,Thanks for bringing Joe
I like this episode this was life changing and positively focused
Next week ngavadzoke vari 2 vafundisi ava. I see their clips on RUclips, and they are great marriage teachers. I am an single guy and I am really learning a lot.
Dare keep it up .
We are learning a lot
Good job bafowethu,sifunda okunengi
Heavy heavy team kukambura
Team kukambura😅😅😅
We've learned a lot 😊
Worried about only 9 episodes left now 😢
Good combination 🔥 🔥
Please twice a week this programme is Naka
Joe Daniels diverts from the bible and bends a lot of scriptures to suit his own opinions
Very educative
I have learned something from this Dare thank Phathisan
haaaa Boiz will be here everyday
I like the combination
mature conversations ..
Please bring Prophet Madungwe also to the panel.
this is a good program but i feel like you should also add Mr Aurther Marere
I Love this show
a daily show will do us good
This is very informative
Pliz make it a bit longer as well
Good programme for the internet.
Baaad combination ❤
Gents muri kubata basa, thanks a lot you are discussing hot topics dzaiva taboo tichikura but this why our generation is lost. Evangelist Marufu vano layer ma facts zvaari and funny at the same time.Please this shouldn’t be Apostle Joe Daniels last visit. The three of you guys were in sync. Yakurumidza yapera guys. Twice a week munenge matigonera
😂😂 Mereji inokura osara wakatete😅
Tese taitonzi uyu ndijohn uyu ndihuku 😅😅😅😅
MUKOMA PATISANI HWINZAI MKOMA SHADHAYA
Powerful
I like this episode ramba muchidipisa
Itai muchiisa same question to both parties. Let them debate on the issue. I sensed a little avoidance to disagreement. Make the conversation open. I think that will be the best for us who are watching to learn
True
If you listen carefully the two guests were actually giving different explanations, the idea is not debate but discussion , there is no one answer to these questions. Debate unfortunately wastes time because someone needs the last day, yet in most cases you are saying the same thing in different ways , in principle the point is the same, but what is important is to have it from different angles so that more people relate. Debate is not good, it's about ego and brings negative emotions. Discussion ndiyo mboma ...
@@shiningstartomoro6772 I disagree, debate is not all about ego but expressing your true feelings about a topic and this brings clarity and can be used as a way of finding common ground rather than hiding one's true opinions
@@keithmawodzwaMy whole response is not premised on the ego issue per SE, we can remove the ego component in my response bro. I am simply saying there are disagreeing without emphasizing the disagreement part, which is what debate does, because in debate there has to be a winner of the topic. This is a discussion , if you listen carefully there are both expressing their points in slightly different ways, marufu is touching other aspects joe Daniels is not and vice versa, it is still enriching , because in principle they are agreeing but their understanding of the issues by virtue of them having different life experiences and schooling they are not giving identical answers ... The fact that you prefer debate is what prompted me to say you are looking for a kind of energy and vigour that traditional debate brings , like I said people go back and forth on one point in debate, they can get emotional. I have studied a lot of debates, in most cases people are saying the same thing in different ways , they just want the next person to use their same words to an issue, or sometimes you are just not understanding what the other person is trying to say because you are hell bent on making your point. Generally we are not good listeners and even readers. Sometimes you may need to read a message three times and look at a possible 3 different meanings from the same message to understand what the other person is saying , but the moment you pick that maybe I am disagreeing with you , you end up reading the whole passage already engulfed in your own thoughts waiting to reply, or you end up picking one part of a whole passage and extract it then respond to it, but neglecting the whole context of the passage , the same thing all these prophets do with bible verses, they run away from the context of the whole bible and focus on their own narratives.
Why should we debate if there is no answer , if there is no one size fits all. Because both answers can apply so what is there to debate, we can only discuss, like when they started marufu talked about forgiveness needing divine intervention. Joe Daniels went further and explained the processes in between before divine intervention, he expanded the response to break it down more and explain the role of the forgiver in healing in order to connect with the divine, so that is enriching , instead of them debating that no forgiveness needs healing and not divine intervention. In debate we tend to deliberately avoid agreeing even on issues we agree so that one of us appears more knowledgeable , people end up disagreeing for the sake of it, most debates end up being petty. A mature debate is exactly what is happening here, there are saying their point in different ways , and they are both learning from each other. These issues require discussions, so that we all get an opportunity to learn a thing or two ... It is simply iron sharpening iron. Like I said before these things have no one answer. If we debate who is going to determine the winner, who are the judges and what are the parameters for assessment. Let us discuss and not debate.
I think you need to add more time padare
Tirikudzidza. Tinoda 2 hours chaidzo
😂😂😂😂😂 dare iri huchi
when a woman is loved right zvese zvekuwacha undergarments haumbozvione sezvine basa unowacha wakadekara. Chimumu chakazotaura hahahahaha ndafa ini
Pa 36:24
Vakadzi takanzi zviise pasi pemurume coz vanoziva pamusoro topada if u allow us totonga
Dare to the fullest
Never to be predictable ...
twice a week please
There is no divine power that allows u a man to forgive an unfaithful woman... Mwari instructed you to divorce that woman and such a lady should never be married again
It's also a choice to forgive or put away
Unokaaaambuuuuriiiiiirwaaaaa
Dzimai ma lights 😂🤣
Makadiiii rambayi muchitidzora muchitipa ruzivo rwekuramba tichimunamata Mwari
😂😂very informative
Zvino mukawedzera maguest musire kuwedzera duration yeprogram tichangonzwa ma answers to a few questions
Dare rine vanhu vane wisdom iri
Kikkk ndaseka
Kunzwanana kunoita vanhu vamwari ava kunondiita bhoo
I think Shadaya fits to be on this panel
Dare ramachinda munogona kaimi nhaimi nhaimi
Dare Ravakomana😂
Dare rekukambura
To use who likes before watching the episode
Panzi kukambura sembwa 😢 ma bars awo ma rappers #bling4 tora line iro #voltage jt
Mharidzo yanga iri kupiko iyo
Team.kukambura 😂😂 motigonera
Dare remachinda chiredzi kutapira
The comments about bofu and chimumu were said with crude and unrespectiful language. Could have been said better. Pained.
Kukambura family
murikutidzidzisa shuwa
Please vanogona partner with them
sisonke
Regai tiisewo muwono wangu panyaya yekuwacha maunderwears.... Ini ndichikura ndaidzidziswa kuti pandinogeza paye ndipo pandinogezawo underwear yangu. So pandinongogeza, i make sure i was my pant. Zvitori mandiri kuzvigezera.
deedzai apostle chiwenga next episode timbotukwa zvedu😂
Dare rema gallis
Naka😂😂😂
Pasangana people with the same views dare rakanaka
Murikubata basa
muvhangeri pakugeza apo manyudza gejo
Phatisani's question about divorce was very good but wasn't complete and so was answered incorrectly. The question is about marriage and divorce and marrying again. God hates divorce but people are free to divorce if they can't stay together but remarrying is where the problem is. The only recorded reason for divorcing and marrying again is fornication not adultery. The apostle erred there. Fornication and adultery are one same act but the player status is what makes the difference.
Mathew 19:9
And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for *fornication,* and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
The issue is on marrying another. Divorce for your own reasons apart from fornication but stay single until the other part dies.
kukambura
I hope my future husband is taking notes
😂😂 Am listening
@josephnyoni4711 hahahahahaha finish
Madhara aya anotofungawo saShadaya
This is pure sexist. If you expect women to forgive men who commit infidelity, the same expectation should be applied to women who commit infidelity. Bottom line, everyone should be faithful!
I don't think they disagree with your point that everyone should be faithful, there is no point they suggested that men can be unfaithful, truth be told, the way we are structured a family that holds and goes the distance more often than not has a strong woman, the strength of a woman and that of a man are different, notwithstanding some outliers. No matter how hard we try, we will never change how we were designed, man and woman are not the same, they were created to complement each other. The do have similarities but they also have differences, so we are not carbon copy we are different by design and we must embrace that and co - exist and not try to substitute each other. That structure does not hold of women who want be like men, and men who want to be like women, we are doomed as a people once it gets there.
Tiri kudzidzi zvakawanda.muzotitsvagirewo anoita zvechiwanhu timbonzwawo dzidziso dzawo