Inward as in inhale? I thought i was discovering somthing becauss I found out if u use the tongue shapes for the overtone whistles you can use these same tongue shaped while doing inhale vocals and get overtones to sound in it.
@@ras_krystafari3333 There is one musician that combines some throat singing with metal harsh vocals, called Florian Magnus Maier aka Morean. And the whistle is combined with shrierk or highs to get a very high piteched scream, by Dir en grey vocalist, or Youry raymond (unhuman)
just exhale by retaining it, then try vibrating parts of the back of your throat, 'hhouuu' sound for khoomei then amp the volume, it should tickle at first. start kargyraa vibration with a fake small cough at the very back pushing a bit up from the khoomei chords. sygyt you start khoomei and amp the abdo push a bit with a clean 'Lu' sound. hope it help some get started, those simple trick are not mine✌️✌️✌️✌️
they actually don't have too much of a special range in their vocal folds, it's in the overtones that they create most of the notes. listen closely and you can hear how they keep the same note all the time with their vocal folds. the overtones are created by manipulating the tongue. then there's the very very low style called kargyraa, but that's basicly like grunting with your vocal folds all the time. but as with all the other styles, kargyraa also uses overtones, still created by manipulating the tongue. i know these because i sing throat singing too. it's really fun and surprisingly easy once you get the hang of it, and the best thing about it is that you don't have to have a pretty voice to be able to do it! it get's hard when you wanna get several notes out at once and when you wanna add effects like a trill (borbangnadyr). :)
@@apple_with_a_human_butt I've always been into Mongolian throat singing and music in general. Once I learn throat singing, I will not stop hahah. I will annoy a lot of people. I won't care.
Some of these styles sounds like they'd only be possible on synthetic devices, but these folks are doing it with just their voices alone! It's really eye-opening and wonderful.
@@brk932 there is some sound changes, for example you say "asır asıp geldin bugüne" but we say "asır ashıp geldin bugüne", our every "sh" is "s" in Kazakh. Or in Orhun inscriptions we see old Turks said "Kök", "Köz", "Tag" or "Köl" but today we say "Gök", "Göz", "Dağ" and "Göl". Kazakhs preserved old sounds, for example you still say "Köl". A Oghuz Turks have to know such things, Thus we can read even poems of Magcan Cumabay
A lot of Turks, fuelled by a false sense of turkic nationalism, claim to understand all turkic languages whereas in reality, they struggle to even grasp full sentences in kazakh, let alone Tuvan. It's like an English person claiming to understand Swedish lmao
i kinda consider myself pretty well versed in khagyra, less so in sygyt and xoomei, but when he started with the glottal stops and bounces in sygyt, i was absolutely dumbfounded
I've posted this in other Tuvan Throat Singing videos......but I'd be scared out of my mind if I heard an army of Mongols coming towards me making that noise!!
Yeah. You'd be getting ready for battle, then these guys would come at you like they're going to align your chakras and instill a sense of peace with nature. Very scary.
Im glad this video exists. Previously, I saw the video "Throat Singing: Then and Now" with these three men. In that video, it definitely appeared as though each man specialized in one style of throat singing. Im happy to know this is not the case! All these men are so talented
We love Alash! My husband jokes that he's listened to that first song so often that he "knows all the words." (He doesn't really, but it's vary familiar.) We were so fortunate to hear Alash in concert with they sang at a local venue called Avogadro's Number in Fort Collins, and immediately bought a bunch of their CDs
Hearing this reminds me of the sounds that a deep.meditative mantra produces. In the right toom the sound travels around the room. Bet these guys know about that ....oh and deep medtation....theta......level of creatiion....and prayer. Love you all.....
Holy cow!! I am amazed at the sounds they are able to make. I have no idea if they ever form any words during their singing but it doesn’t matter to me. I have to admit that not only is cool but I honestly like what I hear!!
I've loved throat singing since the early 90's and I don't think I'll ever grow tired of listening to it. It's otherworldly in the best way and I love turning people on to it, and watching their jaws drop as they find out what all the human voice can get up to! The HU have gone a long ways toward bringing it to a more mainstream audience, and that only can be a good thing, IMO.
I loved it when the video started. They were singing like Chinese. It reminded me of my friends and teachers at my old school. I transferred to La Salle in the Philippines. My old school was Trinity Christian School (also located in the Philippines and no, I am not a foreigner. I’m Filipino.). I’m so proud of these guys. All the time, I curse and swear in the comments but I add a *. But these guys made me remind me of everything above that I didn’t curse and swear. Thank you Alash.
That's because native americans migrated from Asia where turkic people lived to America in times when the platform of America and Russia used to be connected. Also turkic and indigenous culture and even their appearence are very similar: f. e. the connection to nature, the shamans, nomadism and so on
Wow! The Khöömei of this man is just astoundingly good, his 2nd harmonic is super loud, so basically you can hear at least three notes at the same time even if you're not too used to listening to overtone singing.
@@myprophet1 One person using harmonics to create different lines is not exactly polyphonic, since one person has just one main sound (the voice). I would say di-phonic like in spanish, french, italian latin languages, where "di-" means "to split". Polyphonic fits better a choir with more people
@@overtonefinds6385 polyphonic overtone singing is aptly named because in music 'polyphonic' just means an instrument that can play two or more notes at the same time, including the voice (unless it is referring to melody, in which case it means there are two or more melodies).
It seems like there is a spiritual component that can't be overlooked in order to create the right mood. I imagine they're feeling at one with the cosmos or channeling some divine power.
Of course one can feel it oneself simply by listening on a recorded video. Its incredible. One feels the energy thru goosebumps in ones body. Imagine being there in person and feeling the vibrations in your body. Imagine singing this and making all the water in your body vibrate in tune to this.. They are 100% channeling divine power.
@@drainer_333 Put your hand in your chest and chant 'Aaaaaauuuuuummmmmmm' If you cant feel any vibration them im sorry you are probably morbidly obese LOL! :D
I imagine the first person who throat sang was bored and on a mountain. Just started making noises and made one s/he liked. Yes, there are female throat singers! They are amazing
I've been learning it also. Have you made any progress? I have and one thing I was messing up is that I was closing my throat way too much and also most places I've seen giving tutorials on Sygyt never mention the fact that the air should be rerouted through the nose. So obviously is should still come out your mouth but you should be able to fill the air going out your nose too. It's hard to focus on tongue position and pushing air out through the nose but it's getting easier. Hopefully this helps.
@@zyriab5797 Well. I am more focusing on learning the Makams and the notes and the scales. Its quite difficult I always played it without knowing the makams and the notes. But I've gotten more comfortable with the Oud and I am ready to learn the makams. And with throat singing I haven't really practiced that yet.
Interesting question. I think it's just a way to punctuate the end of the song. There's something really similar in Norwegian folk music, where they often say "sann" at the end of a type of song called slåttestev/slåtterim, the same way as "shoo" in the tuvan folk songs. I highly doubt that it's a coincidence, but I'm really curious about the connection. Would surprise me if we didn't find something similar in other folk traditions as well.
Hmm interesting. The reason I asked is because in Peruvian Shamanism, a similar sound is used to communicate thanks to the spirits at the end of a session. Also, there is a link between Tibetan/Siberian Shamanism and South American Shamanism because of the migration across the Bering Strait. So maybe the Mongolians were part of that tradition also and they used it in their music?
Who knows who first started using it, or if it's even the same tradition, but it wouldn't surprise me if the more casual use originated from some spiritual use originally. Wonder why the shamanic aspect would survive over the sea but not over the continent on its way to Norway though. This is just guesswork though, I have no idea where to look for more information. I guess a google search for "shoo" wouldn't be of much help...
This is the common and health way to end the pressure of the diafragm of this 3 techniques, cause it demands energy and careful to starts and end the technic properly. 😀 I practice this styles from a couple of years, and this "shoosss" or "hhhooaa" is the correct way to finalize the technic releasing the air pressure.
These in the video are like the basic styles and the two are like sub-styles :D Borbangnadyr is just the Xorekteer (the 'sheep' sound) or the Kargyraa but you move your mouth a lot faster and Chylandyk is Kargyraa + Sygyt
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When Bady-Dorzhu demonstrates kargyraa, it seems he’s performing the same kargyraa piece that Huun Huur Tu performs simply named “Kargyraa.” I wonder if it’s a well-known folk song in Tuvan culture or something like that
2:09 Voice 1
4:14 Voice 2
6:18 Voice 3
I can finally do Voice 3
Khomei, Sıgıt, Kargyra
@@thebonkera1221 Me too
@@thebonkera1221 nice one! How did you learn?
@@kickasscorm if you're looking to learn it, I teach online lessons :)
Throat singing is one of the coolest things in the world
Afx, throat singning and a didgeridoo. Nice conbination
Indeed
Especially when they sing overtones, so overwhelming!
A bunch of cool dudes right there
lol lol it’s their culture, and they were raised learning how to do it.
@lol lol stfu
@lol lol LMAO this dude is ruthless i love it
@@guidomonto3742 Correct
And I thought I was badass when I got my metal screams .
*Laughs in inward bass*
Im discovering an inward bass overtone so in theory they can be combined, try it guy. There was an epic metal style btbx wildcard for 2020
Inward as in inhale? I thought i was discovering somthing becauss I found out if u use the tongue shapes for the overtone whistles you can use these same tongue shaped while doing inhale vocals and get overtones to sound in it.
@@ras_krystafari3333 There is one musician that combines some throat singing with metal harsh vocals, called Florian Magnus Maier aka Morean. And the whistle is combined with shrierk or highs to get a very high piteched scream, by Dir en grey vocalist, or Youry raymond (unhuman)
Throat singing and growling are primal cousins, black metal has both
"it's like sculpting with music" oh i love that
This video explained more to me than the other 99% of the videos on throat singing
shit i just learned kargara in like ten minutes but i use my fingers to press on throat
sygyt > 'Lu' sound tongue position. thats all i needed to get it, how the tongue should be placed is rarely said.
just exhale by retaining it, then try vibrating parts of the back of your throat, 'hhouuu' sound for khoomei then amp the volume, it should tickle at first. start kargyraa vibration with a fake small cough at the very back pushing a bit up from the khoomei chords. sygyt you start khoomei and amp the abdo push a bit with a clean 'Lu' sound. hope it help some get started, those simple trick are not mine✌️✌️✌️✌️
wild. as a kid, i used to try to do this. never knew it was a legit singing style.
🌙 Nope.
Jack Marentette yeah it is
Yeah in front of a fan..... I always do the same
The like button is always blue it’s not as simple as that
Since I think the beginning of this year, I also often try that
I can hear like a whistle in the middle while they sing. It is absolutely amazing, honestly.
Thanks! I heard it thanks to your comment!
Good stuff. Those guys have amazing range. My phone was shaking lol
So powerful it broke that guys arm 🙋
they actually don't have too much of a special range in their vocal folds, it's in the overtones that they create most of the notes. listen closely and you can hear how they keep the same note all the time with their vocal folds. the overtones are created by manipulating the tongue. then there's the very very low style called kargyraa, but that's basicly like grunting with your vocal folds all the time. but as with all the other styles, kargyraa also uses overtones, still created by manipulating the tongue. i know these because i sing throat singing too. it's really fun and surprisingly easy once you get the hang of it, and the best thing about it is that you don't have to have a pretty voice to be able to do it! it get's hard when you wanna get several notes out at once and when you wanna add effects like a trill (borbangnadyr). :)
@@apple_with_a_human_butt I've always been into Mongolian throat singing and music in general. Once I learn throat singing, I will not stop hahah. I will annoy a lot of people. I won't care.
Range sounds pretty standard for epicanthal folds, idk what you are hearing
@@becketthor shut the fuck up
6:35 when ur mom tells u pick a toy as a present
Ahahhhaahah
Some of these styles sounds like they'd only be possible on synthetic devices, but these folks are doing it with just their voices alone! It's really eye-opening and wonderful.
As a Turk from Turkey i can understand so many words. You guys are so great.
I am not surprised. Oghuz Turks originate from the Altai region. You should be able to understand some Kazakh as well.
@@brk932 there is some sound changes, for example you say "asır asıp geldin bugüne" but we say "asır ashıp geldin bugüne", our every "sh" is "s" in Kazakh. Or in Orhun inscriptions we see old Turks said "Kök", "Köz", "Tag" or "Köl" but today we say "Gök", "Göz", "Dağ" and "Göl". Kazakhs preserved old sounds, for example you still say "Köl". A Oghuz Turks have to know such things, Thus we can read even poems of Magcan Cumabay
@@brk932 Българин ли си?
A lot of Turks, fuelled by a false sense of turkic nationalism, claim to understand all turkic languages whereas in reality, they struggle to even grasp full sentences in kazakh, let alone Tuvan.
It's like an English person claiming to understand Swedish lmao
@@brk932
Oghuz Turks originated from Turkmenistan which is thousands of miles to the south west. They branched off of Altaic history ages ago
i kinda consider myself pretty well versed in khagyra, less so in sygyt and xoomei, but when he started with the glottal stops and bounces in sygyt, i was absolutely dumbfounded
it is done the same way you do to change notes. Changing the position of your tongue :)
I'm currently learning all 3 styles. I'm decent at the Kargyraa style. A long way to go. Brilliantly sung. I will follow these guys
The sound is absolutely sublime, extraordinary, stunning...are there even the right words to describe??? Wow.
It's amazing, but I'm actually so impressed by sygyt, how it raises the overtone to prevail over the base tone, Is just beautiful.
I've posted this in other Tuvan Throat Singing videos......but I'd be scared out of my mind if I heard an army of Mongols coming towards me making that noise!!
Yeah. You'd be getting ready for battle, then these guys would come at you like they're going to align your chakras and instill a sense of peace with nature. Very scary.
Have a listen-The Hu Band: The Wolf Totem
I think an army making any noise should scare you out of your mind
Oof these guys are Tuvan which is in Russia...
@@zalesRU yeah but throat singing is traced back to first appearing and is probably the most common in mongolia
Wow! There was a brief Khagyra demonstration in the new "Dune" movie.
Im glad this video exists. Previously, I saw the video "Throat Singing: Then and Now" with these three men. In that video, it definitely appeared as though each man specialized in one style of throat singing.
Im happy to know this is not the case! All these men are so talented
We love Alash! My husband jokes that he's listened to that first song so often that he "knows all the words." (He doesn't really, but it's vary familiar.) We were so fortunate to hear Alash in concert with they sang at a local venue called Avogadro's Number in Fort Collins, and immediately bought a bunch of their CDs
just for a moment, let us forget what have we learned about music, and open our hearts to the world we live in for thousands of years.
2:09 The shaver when the barber shaves the side of my head
Nobody:
My stomach after 2 hours without eating: 6:19
Me fasting: REY MYSTERIO
bruh the sygyt one was amazing
I could listen to this all day I love tuvan throat singing
These guys have been performing for years now. I’ve seen a previous video of theirs from when they were kids. Still as talented as ever 🙏
Hearing this reminds me of the sounds that a deep.meditative mantra produces. In the right toom the sound travels around the room. Bet these guys know about that ....oh and deep medtation....theta......level of creatiion....and prayer. Love you all.....
Holy cow!! I am amazed at the sounds they are able to make. I have no idea if they ever form any words during their singing but it doesn’t matter to me. I have to admit that not only is cool but I honestly like what I hear!!
I've loved throat singing since the early 90's and I don't think I'll ever grow tired of listening to it. It's otherworldly in the best way and I love turning people on to it, and watching their jaws drop as they find out what all the human voice can get up to! The HU have gone a long ways toward bringing it to a more mainstream audience, and that only can be a good thing, IMO.
I feel like this vibrates my soul.
What a great analysis by the manager and Kudos to the artists!
I love these guys!
I love this art of singing. Beautiful.
Hoping to see the Alash Ensemble someday soon!
Best group that I have ever seen ♥
So powerful. Absolutely gorgeous
Thank you. Highly interesting. These singers seem to be very nice persons. No arrogance at all.
Thank you for this
4:19 is my mum saying "hurry, hurry!" when she calls me in my room because it's time to have dinner
I loved it when the video started. They were singing like Chinese. It reminded me of my friends and teachers at my old school. I transferred to La Salle in the Philippines. My old school was Trinity Christian School (also located in the Philippines and no, I am not a foreigner. I’m Filipino.). I’m so proud of these guys. All the time, I curse and swear in the comments but I add a *. But these guys made me remind me of everything above that I didn’t curse and swear. Thank you Alash.
What makes people laugh is because their skills are unbelievable and incredible
Totally stunning.
Unbelievable. That’s so fantastic
Are they the little boys in other vids?
Gen D.G. Yes they are
They were so cute! And their teacher so obviously proud.
@@woody3555 i thought the two childs was a girls 😂😂
@@myprophet1 their teacher is a famous throat singer called Kongar ool ondar
no they are not the 3rd voice is kongar ool ondars father and the other 2 are just friends or students
I could have sworn some native Americans have a version of the last type of singing
That's correct. Altai is the answer my friend.
That's because native americans migrated from Asia where turkic people lived to America in times when the platform of America and Russia used to be connected. Also turkic and indigenous culture and even their appearence are very similar: f. e. the connection to nature, the shamans, nomadism and so on
6:20 to 7:40 I can feel my phone vibrating from the kagyraa technique
Thanks for the explanation! We saw you last night in Baraboo, WI. Wonderful!
Love this thank you so much!!!🙏♥️
the last guy is just adorable i totally love him
Outstanding!
Beautiful and amazing!
This form of singing is just incredible.
This is both amazing and beautiful in my opinion.
Thank you.
Wow! The Khöömei of this man is just astoundingly good, his 2nd harmonic is super loud, so basically you can hear at least three notes at the same time even if you're not too used to listening to overtone singing.
this is so inspiring
6:18 i somehow..can hear two sounds coming from him
Yes you can hear the overtones with all three, not just the third one. Try giving it another listen.
Poly, meaning many. Phonic, meaning sound.
@@myprophet1 One person using harmonics to create different lines is not exactly polyphonic, since one person has just one main sound (the voice).
I would say di-phonic like in spanish, french, italian latin languages, where "di-" means "to split".
Polyphonic fits better a choir with more people
@@overtonefinds6385 polyphonic overtone singing is aptly named because in music 'polyphonic' just means an instrument that can play two or more notes at the same time, including the voice (unless it is referring to melody, in which case it means there are two or more melodies).
@@overtonefinds6385 a person using their voice to sing two notes is polyphonic, just as a piano or guitar is polyphonic.
that was amazing
This is incredible!
Simplemente HERMOSO
It seems like there is a spiritual component that can't be overlooked in order to create the right mood. I imagine they're feeling at one with the cosmos or channeling some divine power.
Of course one can feel it oneself simply by listening on a recorded video. Its incredible. One feels the energy thru goosebumps in ones body. Imagine being there in person and feeling the vibrations in your body. Imagine singing this and making all the water in your body vibrate in tune to this.. They are 100% channeling divine power.
@@drainer_333 Put your hand in your chest and chant 'Aaaaaauuuuuummmmmmm' If you cant feel any vibration them im sorry you are probably morbidly obese LOL! :D
can kinda do all 3, to a degree. but I have tried 3, an my gag reflex was like "lol no".
thank you for this video!
cool guys
that's why I wanted to move to Tuva
At 5:23 he says "whew!" Me too, only I was just listening!
These guys make me out of breath!
They say "shu" at the end of a song, short for shu-de, which means “giddyup” or “let's go” in Tuvan. I'm not sure why. :-)
When I finally get the overtones while singing, my cat goes absolutely mad!
Be careful, else it will become a tiger
Alash will come in Switzerland one time ? Huge fan here :)
Throat singing so powerful Chinggis Khan back from the grave
this is such a cool video dude. really well done.
I imagine the first person who throat sang was bored and on a mountain. Just started making noises and made one s/he liked. Yes, there are female throat singers! They are amazing
6:54 that sounds amazing wew
I love this so much!
İnsanın orta asyaya göç edesi geliyor
2:47 I will make this as my alarm
This sound is fantastic..can many people do this?
The second one is wild like I never thought that was even possible
I can do the last one with no problem. But the first two i have not got the whisle down. Would love to meet some one to learn from them. Beautiful
I've been learning it also. Have you made any progress? I have and one thing I was messing up is that I was closing my throat way too much and also most places I've seen giving tutorials on Sygyt never mention the fact that the air should be rerouted through the nose. So obviously is should still come out your mouth but you should be able to fill the air going out your nose too. It's hard to focus on tongue position and pushing air out through the nose but it's getting easier. Hopefully this helps.
I think the interpreter broke his arm trying to “throat sing”. I almost did the same thing
Lol
I ❤ TUWA
love the pixinguinha shirt
2:09 🐝
4:14 🐥
6:18😎
Cala boca...
6:18 my uncles singing normally
0:06 my uncles singing when drunk
Any infos on the Kagyraa style ? I've started to (poorly) sing Tuvan while playing Oud and I'm looking for that deep bass...
Zyriab There's group called Yat Kha that uses that style
I also play the Oud. But I never throat sung with the Oud. Thanks for giving me an idea
@@ginyu9894 Thanks only seeing your comment now, I'll check it out :)
@@liamp1379 Happy to help. :) How is it going?
@@zyriab5797 Well. I am more focusing on learning the Makams and the notes and the scales. Its quite difficult I always played it without knowing the makams and the notes. But I've gotten more comfortable with the Oud and I am ready to learn the makams. And with throat singing I haven't really practiced that yet.
Mm! Them whistle tones! 😙👌
Nice.
Anybody know why they all made that quiet “shoo” sound when they finished singing?
Interesting question. I think it's just a way to punctuate the end of the song. There's something really similar in Norwegian folk music, where they often say "sann" at the end of a type of song called slåttestev/slåtterim, the same way as "shoo" in the tuvan folk songs. I highly doubt that it's a coincidence, but I'm really curious about the connection. Would surprise me if we didn't find something similar in other folk traditions as well.
Hmm interesting. The reason I asked is because in Peruvian Shamanism, a similar sound is used to communicate thanks to the spirits at the end of a session. Also, there is a link between Tibetan/Siberian Shamanism and South American Shamanism because of the migration across the Bering Strait. So maybe the Mongolians were part of that tradition also and they used it in their music?
Who knows who first started using it, or if it's even the same tradition, but it wouldn't surprise me if the more casual use originated from some spiritual use originally. Wonder why the shamanic aspect would survive over the sea but not over the continent on its way to Norway though. This is just guesswork though, I have no idea where to look for more information. I guess a google search for "shoo" wouldn't be of much help...
This is the common and health way to end the pressure of the diafragm of this 3 techniques, cause it demands energy and careful to starts and end the technic properly. 😀 I practice this styles from a couple of years, and this "shoosss" or "hhhooaa" is the correct way to finalize the technic releasing the air pressure.
It is like the correct and the security scape valve to release all the remaining breath at all time.
Your breath is very impressive
Когда слушаеш их в наушниках звук как у сверзвукового самолёта.
Was that Mongolian or Russian cuz they both use cirillic letters
@@iliketurtles3415 яussiaи
Денис yea ik I just realized Tuva is in Serbia which is in Russia not Mongolia
@@iliketurtles3415 did you mean Siberia? Serbia is a country in south-east Europe. Also Tuva borders Mongolia
Awesome
Radiation sounds
Wow!
I've got #3 down pretty good, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to make that whistle... Any tips?
Following ;)
There are training courses in Udemy with Exercises.
Tip of your tongue on the top of your mouth to create two cavities
I teach online lessons of tuvan throat singing and I can teach you Sygyt :)
What about the Borbagandyr and Chylandyk styles?
These in the video are like the basic styles and the two are like sub-styles :D Borbangnadyr is just the Xorekteer (the 'sheep' sound) or the Kargyraa but you move your mouth a lot faster and Chylandyk is Kargyraa + Sygyt
Somebody please share the link to the song they were singing at start
ruclips.net/video/0IKqi4Ue9ic/видео.html
what do they say between breaths?
Shew
Это феноменально!!!осваиваейте и исцеляйтесь братья и сёстры всего Мира!!!!! Люблю Вас всех!!!плохих и хороших!!!духи предков простят всех!!!творите добро!!!будьте счастливы всегда и везде!!!
Niiice my brothers 👏
Thanks Thomas Dolby's clone, brilliant explanation!
Who is Yuri and why must he hurry?
When Bady-Dorzhu demonstrates kargyraa, it seems he’s performing the same kargyraa piece that Huun Huur Tu performs simply named “Kargyraa.” I wonder if it’s a well-known folk song in Tuvan culture or something like that
I think these are isolated pieces they use as practice and to show the styles.