Marty took on so much and no one ever asks him how his doing coz he hardly shows any emotion but that man is going through it, the ma just had to burn the body of his brother in law imagine what that does to someone, Jason Bateman deserves big praise for how he protrays this man
Yeah, I have seen people think Marty didn't like Ben because he wanted him to leave. I took it as him wanting fewer people involved and possibly harmed from the get go. As a family member of a few mentally ill people, you know they have been down the road with Ben during bad episodes before. Ben does act out and gets physical. That makes it hard to want that around your children even if you are not money laundering and having to keep the FBI, the KC mob, the cartel & Darlene off your back. The whole situation if Ben was to describe it to a doctor would sound like a manic delusion. It's paranoia fodder. I think Marty cares about Ben well enough as a brother in law but this was not a safe time for anyone to have Ben around. Obviously.
I genuinely don't understand what the writers are doing with Ruth/the Langmores, in general. 1. I don't understand why she's not THANKFUL that someone took care of her dad for her - he did NOTHING but tear her down emotionally, abuse her (both physically and emotionally), lie, cheat, steal, and basically do EVERYTHING in his power to drag both himself and his family down, ALL THE TIME. (Which takes me back to some of the writing choices from last season: if they hadn't just made him such a one-note, cardboard cutout villain...just taken the time to write SOMETHING redeeming in his character...I would now have no problem with Ruth's dedication to him.) 2. Ruth is mature enough/has seen enough shit, where she should 100% appreciate the seriousness (and lethality) of the business they're involved in. 3. Further, she has seen enough shit/been through enough shit, that she should know EXACTLY what Wendy sacrificed (with her brother) to save ALL THEIR LIVES. It just seems that all this was a LAZY way to get her and Wyatt and Darlene on one side of the chess board (for next season), opposite the Byrds...for "D R A M A". To be clear: generally the writing on this show is AMAZING, which is why the 1-2 times when its not, really stick out. A lot.
If you've never had an abusive dad its very hard to explain... There will still usually be love even in the most toxic of relationships like that, and its not like Cade didnt care about Ruth at all. He simply didn't see her going the other way other than being a criminal. Ruth's the definition of father issues. Also I don't see why Ruth disliking Wendy's decision is bad writing... Ruth is a literal idealist even after being exposed to the Cartel, heck, for a while so was Wendy. Both of them trying to get Ben to disappear off the Cartel's radar and actually believed(hoped) they could pull it off. The only difference is it became clear to Wendy it was just a pipe dream, while to Ruth it really wasnt. Now this is where it gets tricky, Ruth technically kills her uncles for Marty... And I guess you could call her a hypocrite for judging Wendy for killing Ben, but at the same time I dont think she sees it as the same. I personally believe the writing truly takes a drop in season 4... I really thought season 1-3 was done about as well as they could've been.
Darlene was gangster AF this episode. Shooting Frank Jr's junk off then going straight to his dad...the leader of the Kansas City Mob... furthermore telling him that she was responsible, and that if it's war then it's war 🤷♀️
In retrospect, it was brilliant that they started the season with Ben flipping out in the classroom & we all laughed as it seemed comical....yet it actually was showing how he was not able to control his emotions...& not funny at all.
Ozark Seasons 3 is extremely comical and it doesn't engage a more serious tone for about 5 eps. It genuinely feels like an Adam McKay movie in episode 1. Episode 2 Ruth jacks Cosgrove Jr. into the lake. Then Ben steals our hearts mid season. This show only takes away all charatcers you love.
Ruth calling Wendy out on "your own brother" and "were you too chicken spit to watch" is rich considering the date of her uncles and why she killed them And like many, she didn't bother to learn about mental illness or Ben's history before acting emotionally. Wendy isn't completely off base in feeling Ruth is part of why Ben is dead.
She wanted to be turned into a diamond. Remember at the funeral home right after she died? they were naming prices and that was one of her requests lol.
Another good example of an actor playing a character with Bipolar disorder is Claire Danes in Showtime's Homeland series. And this girl works for the CIA! But my man from Cinemax's Banshee, Tom Pelphrey was excellent!
Technically, we never see Ben dead or get killed... ( Marty would be in on it though, unless he never actually checked the body at all, which is unlikely). Maybe Nelson was told by Navarro not to actually kill Ben, as a way of pulling Wendy closer or something like that?
Since the very moment i seen this finale and knew you guys were watching, I have been patiently checking daily and waiting for this reaction from you both!
The actor who played Ben also played as a reformed nazi/racist in the last season of a show called Banshee and had the same effect of this show..I think you guys will love it. Nonstop action with a great storyline
Omg i want to believe so bad that Ben is still alive but idk. We never saw him actually get killed. Only a body but idk if its actually him. Plus Helen's own hit man, Nelson, kills her. And since shes dead there would be no reason to kill Ben. Another thing that makes me think hes alive is Marty isnt effected when he sees "Bens" body. I think he might have made a phone call between scenes to save Bens life while keeping it secret from Wendy and Ruth. 🙏🙏
@@babyfood9537 yes also when Ben stupidly goes to the casino to say sorry to ruth Nelson walks in. Marty gets him out on the boat and passes him on for wendy to get him out of the state. Marty must have gone back to the Casino and Nelson might have still been there, giving him a chance to maybe pay him off or do something to save his life that we as the viewers dont see. I just feel hes too good of a character to be kill off in one season and I think he could really turn into an asset in the story line.
@@Baranello92 I forgot about that scene...so either Marty called Navaro straight up OR he paid off the hitman. I think the former is much more likely though. Maybe trying to bribe the hitman would be way too risky of a move even for Marty; he's probably loyal AF to Navaro. Agreed...Ben was too incredible of a character to just dispose of that soon. I think we will definitely be seeing him next season. Maybe they even did intend to kill him off (like how it was rumored Jesse was meant to be offed season 1 BB) but after seeing his performance and the fan reception they would be fools not to bring him back.
Go back to the first scene Ben was in at the school. He was doing the same thing back then, just at lower stakes. He wanted to make things right for that kid so he took all the phones and it escalated from there due to impulse.
Helen overplayed her hand big time. Her not realizing the ever growing importance of Marty (and Wendy) to Navaro's plans AFTER his whole family was gunned down at the baptism...was a MASSIVE oversight. He needs Marty's laundering expertise now more than ever to secure that legitimate inheritance for his children. It actually reminded me a little of Gus' henchman in Breaking Bad who got too big for his boots, thinking he could handle cooking the meth in place of Walt and Jesse, thinking that Gus would be fine with that. ..like what 🤨and we all know how that worked out for him 🩸🩸🩸😅
After you guys finish this you should really consider watching Animal Kingdom, its about a crime family of young boys and their mother. It is 4 seasons long as far as I know, I am in season 3 and it is as addicting as Breaking Bad and Ozark.
I'm willing to bet Ben isn't dead. Seems to me that Marty knows something. I think he may have paid off the hitman and is hiding Ben somewhere. That's why we don't actually see Ben die or see his body. Just a thought!
Yes. Kind of wondering too. Dunno if Marty could pay off Nelson bc that would be the end of Nelson’ hit man cred. Depending on if Wendy called Nelson or she called Helen and Helen called Nelson, I think it would have to be Helen. But 2 theories from there; Marty could have got hold of Navarro to explain bc he knows Navarro holds family to high regard. Navarro would be the only one to call off a hit. Marty was the one that suggested for Wendy to call Navarro so unless Helen told Navarro she ordered the hit, Navarro wouldn’t know, so when Wendy called him she could have been calling to ask for an extraction or that Ben was in trouble and needed help or anything at all. It was Navarro that jumped in and ‘guessed’ she had him killed. Or maybe Helen told Navarro she ordered the hit and threw more shade on the Byrdes but Navarro is already getting annoyed with her and hearing she was going to have Ben killed confirmed for him it was time to end Helen. So he called Nelson to call off the hit on Ben and put the hit on Helen. Either way maybe Nelson kidnapped Ben and had him abducted to Mexico and we will get a family reunion at the fortress in 4-1
@@jameshawkins6619 I'd bet that if this is what happened that Nelson would have access to a body or Navarro shipped him a sub. There's certainly been no shortage of corpses!
@@jmominis fair enough. Here's another thing. There were people there at the restaurant Wendy left Ben at. You don't think he could have hitched a ride with one of them? Just a thought.
@@jameshawkins6619 That is totally possible, seeing that they didn't show us the actual encounter between Nelson and Ben. Although I think Nelson is probably (for a hit man) pretty honest so he would have to lie about having finished the job, especially with Ben's condition and how he would impulsively tell everyone he meets or try to come back. Nelson would want to secure him until things were settled back in Mexico. On a side note I noticed that when Marty was talking to Wendy when she was in the van she asked "do you have THE ashes" and not HIS ashes... and "are THEY heavy?" and not is HE heavy... so Marty technically wasn't lying to her. I think Wendy would still be pissed at him for letting her go through such grief but Marty probably be okay with her hating him if it meant she got to keep her brother. (edit - I stand corrected, the audio on you tube wasn't clear - when I watched the episode again on NF Wendy does say "do you have HIS ashes". My bad!) And Marty was pretty incistent that Ruth not go after Nelson or anyone, but I think if Ruth was going to go after anyone it would be the person that ordered the hit not the hitman, I think she would know that Nelson is just carrying out orders...except in this case maybe he was carrying out different orders and Marty didn't want Ruth getting taken out by Nelson or if she got the drop on him that he would tell her the truth to save himself. Oh well, a lot of theorization out the window if the bad news is verifeid in the premiere! But its fun to speculate!
P.S. BB, BCS, and Ozark are the 3 best crime dramas in TV history, and it's not really close!!! The new show with Kevin Hart and Wesley Snipes (True Story) is a really good show too, but not on the same level. In a way, it even caught me more by surprise, but still not the same level of writing, directing, producing, and acting...but deserves a mention!
So I don't believe that Ben is dead. That zoom in on the license plate in the last episode.... Tennessee plates. Why is she driving a vehicle with Tennessee plates? Ben mentioned he had some friends in Knoxville so that's where she was taking him, but they live in Missouri. The the part when she asks about his ashes and if they're heavy... he says "not very". I read that a human being after cremation weighs 4-8 pounds, so that's not that heavy at all but why ask that question? Marty is carrying that bag around like weighs nothing. Then their son's reaction after looking at the ashes. Why shoot out the window? Idk... maybe they're just throwing something at us to give us hope that Ben is alive, but all that was for something you would think. I wonder if they paid Nelson off, and they burned a bunch of paper or something. One more thing, I think Wendy drives a Honda minivan... I've owned a Honda and the tail lights don't look that way. I'm thinking that Ben's friends picked him up.
26:23 Marty: "We need to burrow right into the center of this thing." If you can't go above it, below it, or around it, then you go right through it. LOL! I know Darlene is bat-shit, but ....DAMN!!! Thanks for the 2-parter. 😊🌺🏝️❤️
19:38: Marty: "I don't think you give a shit about whose life you destroy." Heh. That's rich, AFTER Marty preyed on a very naïve Sam to launder money for him via casino gambling with large amounts of money and assured him that it would all be A-OK if he did so. How many lives has Marty destroyed, by the way -- including his own?
@@Angryegaroq Hahahaha, well, no. Not really. He’s the sort of antihero that falls along the lines of Tony Soprano and Walter White. Complete sociopaths who ruin almost everyone they come in contact with, but…as a viewer of the show, you’re still rooting for them, at least to an extent. Jason Bateman and Laura Linney absolutely OWN those two roles.
I am convinced that had Ruth not got Ben out of the hospital Helen or someone else involved with Navarro would have got him killed in there. He was *not* safe in there. He was (in their eyes) still someone with too much information, with a tendency to fly off the rails, who was feeling wronged by the Byrdes and so now even had a lot of reason to maybe try and exact some revenge/try to explain himself by spilling a couple secrets. He was a huge liability and I am a 100% sure he wouldn't have survived his hospital stay for very long, someone would have killed him. His death was *not* Ruth's fault for getting him out. He was doomed from the start, through no fault of his own, as sad as that is.
Love you guys, this season was something else! Really hope yous can react to peaky blinders in the future! Season 6 should be sometime in 2021 its amazing!
My brother is bi-polar. This is kind of an over dramatized interpretation of it. When he goes manic he talks a lot and is impulsive but wouldn't attack someone for wearing a weird tie.
That is your experience. You are fortunate. So many are not so fortunate. In my experience, with multiple family members and years of professional experience, this is a pretty accurate and humane portrayal of how it goes for some bi polar people.
Honestly guys, this show is too much. I have a really thick skin, and like most anyone I'm desensitized by watching all kinds of horror, drama, murders, and just pure insanity of the movies and tv shows we've become accustomed to. I've watched almost all of the "great" tv shows: Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, Son of Anarchy, etc. The kind of shows that takes you on an emotional journey where you feel personally connected to a character or story. This show makes me feel terrible, there are zero moments of levity or calm. Watching Ozark literally leaves me in a state of panic, the actions of these "people" are just inexcusable. I look at my life and think about the things that stress me out like having a silly argument with my wife or losing a big sale at work. I would drop dead from sheer panic over what these people have to live through in one day, What kind of life is this, why would anyone, seriously guys, why would you get involved in this world??? The scariest thing about this show is that these characters mirror actual people who are able to sleep at night after skinning people alive, murdering families, you name it. WTF is wrong with the people in this world that live these horrendous lives and then they have hell to look forward to. I'm honestly done watching TV like this, and I'm a grown ass man.
I'd suggest you guys watch Banshee, but it's not hugely popular 🤷🏾♂️ I just know you two would love that show so maybe watch it on your own time apart from the YT channel
Marty knew he knew it was gonna happen that's why he told him to leave and everybody else baited him into staying and Ruth enabled him to stay off his meds he would have been fine if he just stayed on his meds but Marty knew you can not blame Marty for his death Marty implored him to leave told him the leave Wendy told him to stay so did Ruth it's actually more Wendy's fault Marty had it all set up to leave
@@NikkiStevenReact Agreed. At its current trajectory 📈 who knows, it may end up comparable, seeing as it has gotten better every season. The final seasons of BB were fire 🔥🔥🔥 though. Ozark still has a lot of work to do in my opinion but amazing so far, both great shows.
Do you think Ben could still be alive? 🤔 Edit: nvm I just watched until the end. Call me an optimist but I'm 75% sure he's still alive. Why wouldn't we see his death on screen? I feel like Navaro instructed Frank not to kill him for whatever reason
Friends, I am not lying when I say that we all have waited for the reaction to this specific episode ever since you started!
Totally get it. Absolutely shocking moments all over the place.
I second that.
Marty took on so much and no one ever asks him how his doing coz he hardly shows any emotion but that man is going through it, the ma just had to burn the body of his brother in law imagine what that does to someone, Jason Bateman deserves big praise for how he protrays this man
Yeah, I have seen people think Marty didn't like Ben because he wanted him to leave. I took it as him wanting fewer people involved and possibly harmed from the get go. As a family member of a few mentally ill people, you know they have been down the road with Ben during bad episodes before. Ben does act out and gets physical. That makes it hard to want that around your children even if you are not money laundering and having to keep the FBI, the KC mob, the cartel & Darlene off your back. The whole situation if Ben was to describe it to a doctor would sound like a manic delusion. It's paranoia fodder.
I think Marty cares about Ben well enough as a brother in law but this was not a safe time for anyone to have Ben around. Obviously.
"Are they heavy?" "Not really." is such a powerful two lines.
The acting in this series is amazing.
I genuinely don't understand what the writers are doing with Ruth/the Langmores, in general.
1. I don't understand why she's not THANKFUL that someone took care of her dad for her - he did NOTHING but tear her down emotionally, abuse her (both physically and emotionally), lie, cheat, steal, and basically do EVERYTHING in his power to drag both himself and his family down, ALL THE TIME. (Which takes me back to some of the writing choices from last season: if they hadn't just made him such a one-note, cardboard cutout villain...just taken the time to write SOMETHING redeeming in his character...I would now have no problem with Ruth's dedication to him.)
2. Ruth is mature enough/has seen enough shit, where she should 100% appreciate the seriousness (and lethality) of the business they're involved in.
3. Further, she has seen enough shit/been through enough shit, that she should know EXACTLY what Wendy sacrificed (with her brother) to save ALL THEIR LIVES.
It just seems that all this was a LAZY way to get her and Wyatt and Darlene on one side of the chess board (for next season), opposite the Byrds...for "D R A M A".
To be clear: generally the writing on this show is AMAZING, which is why the 1-2 times when its not, really stick out. A lot.
If you've never had an abusive dad its very hard to explain... There will still usually be love even in the most toxic of relationships like that, and its not like Cade didnt care about Ruth at all. He simply didn't see her going the other way other than being a criminal. Ruth's the definition of father issues.
Also I don't see why Ruth disliking Wendy's decision is bad writing...
Ruth is a literal idealist even after being exposed to the Cartel, heck, for a while so was Wendy. Both of them trying to get Ben to disappear off the Cartel's radar and actually believed(hoped) they could pull it off. The only difference is it became clear to Wendy it was just a pipe dream, while to Ruth it really wasnt.
Now this is where it gets tricky, Ruth technically kills her uncles for Marty... And I guess you could call her a hypocrite for judging Wendy for killing Ben, but at the same time I dont think she sees it as the same.
I personally believe the writing truly takes a drop in season 4... I really thought season 1-3 was done about as well as they could've been.
Marty told Wendy not to make friends with Helen, and keep Ben away from the family business. Whelp.
He really did but Wendy didn't listen, not at first anyway
It still sucks she lost a brother.
Marty also says shit that is wrong all the time. The whole point is him and Wendy always argue and think they’re right.
@@Cream-2128 What call has he made to this point (that wasn't trying to counter Wendy's erratic decisions) that's been wrong?
Darlene was gangster AF this episode. Shooting Frank Jr's junk off then going straight to his dad...the leader of the Kansas City Mob... furthermore telling him that she was responsible, and that if it's war then it's war 🤷♀️
I LOVED Darlene in this ep.
In retrospect, it was brilliant that they started the season with Ben flipping out in the classroom & we all laughed as it seemed comical....yet it actually was showing how he was not able to control his emotions...& not funny at all.
Yeah, they basically showed us all what was going to happen
At first he just seemed kinda eccentric and passionate. Then they show some repeated behaviors.
But also a person with values. He got angry because of bullying. So eventhough he's violent and unhinged he always had good intentions
Ozark Seasons 3 is extremely comical and it doesn't engage a more serious tone for about 5 eps. It genuinely feels like an Adam McKay movie in episode 1. Episode 2 Ruth jacks Cosgrove Jr. into the lake. Then Ben steals our hearts mid season. This show only takes away all charatcers you love.
“Is she gonna try to take out Frank Jr.?”
Nope. Just Frank Jr. Junior.
Do not recommend Darlene for a vasectomy
That’s a big no. Ha!!
As soon as you guys seen her walk up with that shotgun you knew she was going to do something impulsive and reckless 🤣
Tom Pelphrey's performance as Ben blew my mind!! His performance in Banshee was soooo good too!! I will be watching for him in the future.
Its too good for him to be dead 😉
Ruth calling Wendy out on "your own brother" and "were you too chicken spit to watch" is rich considering the date of her uncles and why she killed them
And like many, she didn't bother to learn about mental illness or Ben's history before acting emotionally. Wendy isn't completely off base in feeling Ruth is part of why Ben is dead.
When they say ‘All in’ they mean it.
They sure do
Lmaoooo steven loves the savagery, couldnt even hide his smile at 29:00
Of course!! a show’s first job is to shock and entertain the viewer.
I guess you could say, things won’t be so hard for Frank Jr anymore….
"I ain't hard to find.." love that quote
Ruth and Wendy just throwing sledgehammers at eachother just oozes real catharsis. The writing and the acting on this show is incredible.
Ben's story def had the Of Mice n Men plot
She wanted to be turned into a diamond. Remember at the funeral home right after she died? they were naming prices and that was one of her requests lol.
"Darlene no!"
Darlene YES!
Another good example of an actor playing a character with Bipolar disorder is Claire Danes in Showtime's Homeland series. And this girl works for the CIA! But my man from Cinemax's Banshee, Tom Pelphrey was excellent!
Steven's reaction when the hitman in the church is coming for the baby gets shot is epic. @16:19
Can you Believe that the actor who played BEN never got a Nomination for his Brilliant Portrayal in that Episode ?...Unbelievable
Lets goo! Wonder how many times “insane” will be used cos damn we might have a couple of drunk people 😂
Finally I'm earlier to the best reactors
Appreciate that!
I concur.
Technically, we never see Ben dead or get killed... ( Marty would be in on it though, unless he never actually checked the body at all, which is unlikely). Maybe Nelson was told by Navarro not to actually kill Ben, as a way of pulling Wendy closer or something like that?
Since the very moment i seen this finale and knew you guys were watching, I have been patiently checking daily and waiting for this reaction from you both!
I have a family member with Bens condition. It’s exactly like that. Can destroy a whole family with their actions.
Indeed.
You know the Byrds have messed up when the only people you agree with on this show is Darleen and Jonah.
We made it!!!!!! The Finale that gave me 10,000 heart attacks!!!!!! Love you N&S!!!
I've been waiting for this. About to watch part 2 and I honestly cant wait to see your reaction how it ended.
AMAZING!! I wasn't ready!! LETS GO!
Wow, I literally had joy after Steven said "still a chance..."
Even though I knew the outcome over a year ago!
I was waiting so much for this reaction
Wendy is going through now what Marty did in the first episode. Marty was genuine, he knows she can get through this because he did.
And here we go...this episode is MINDBLOWING
29:01 stevens reaction was perfect coming from another guy lmfaoooo
Here we go! Already said insane in the 2nd line lol. So excited!
Frank Jr. totally got TheonGreyjoy'd.
The actor who played Ben also played as a reformed nazi/racist in the last season of a show called Banshee and had the same effect of this show..I think you guys will love it. Nonstop action with a great storyline
Omg i want to believe so bad that Ben is still alive but idk. We never saw him actually get killed. Only a body but idk if its actually him. Plus Helen's own hit man, Nelson, kills her. And since shes dead there would be no reason to kill Ben. Another thing that makes me think hes alive is Marty isnt effected when he sees "Bens" body. I think he might have made a phone call between scenes to save Bens life while keeping it secret from Wendy and Ruth. 🙏🙏
I think he's alive too. Good theory about Marty I think that could be it, he seemed a little too composed about the whole thing 🤔
@@babyfood9537 yes also when Ben stupidly goes to the casino to say sorry to ruth Nelson walks in. Marty gets him out on the boat and passes him on for wendy to get him out of the state. Marty must have gone back to the Casino and Nelson might have still been there, giving him a chance to maybe pay him off or do something to save his life that we as the viewers dont see. I just feel hes too good of a character to be kill off in one season and I think he could really turn into an asset in the story line.
@@Baranello92 I forgot about that scene...so either Marty called Navaro straight up OR he paid off the hitman. I think the former is much more likely though. Maybe trying to bribe the hitman would be way too risky of a move even for Marty; he's probably loyal AF to Navaro. Agreed...Ben was too incredible of a character to just dispose of that soon. I think we will definitely be seeing him next season. Maybe they even did intend to kill him off (like how it was rumored Jesse was meant to be offed season 1 BB) but after seeing his performance and the fan reception they would be fools not to bring him back.
Go back to the first scene Ben was in at the school. He was doing the same thing back then, just at lower stakes. He wanted to make things right for that kid so he took all the phones and it escalated from there due to impulse.
Helen overplayed her hand big time. Her not realizing the ever growing importance of Marty (and Wendy) to Navaro's plans AFTER his whole family was gunned down at the baptism...was a MASSIVE oversight. He needs Marty's laundering expertise now more than ever to secure that legitimate inheritance for his children.
It actually reminded me a little of Gus' henchman in Breaking Bad who got too big for his boots, thinking he could handle cooking the meth in place of Walt and Jesse, thinking that Gus would be fine with that. ..like what 🤨and we all know how that worked out for him 🩸🩸🩸😅
I just love Nikki and Steve’s reaction! They are my go to couple for the analysis
Been waiting for this from the start!!! Sooooo excited!
After you guys finish this you should really consider watching Animal Kingdom, its about a crime family of young boys and their mother. It is 4 seasons long as far as I know, I am in season 3 and it is as addicting as Breaking Bad and Ozark.
I'm willing to bet Ben isn't dead. Seems to me that Marty knows something. I think he may have paid off the hitman and is hiding Ben somewhere. That's why we don't actually see Ben die or see his body. Just a thought!
Yes. Kind of wondering too. Dunno if Marty could pay off Nelson bc that would be the end of Nelson’ hit man cred.
Depending on if Wendy called Nelson or she called Helen and Helen called Nelson, I think it would have to be Helen. But 2 theories from there;
Marty could have got hold of Navarro to explain bc he knows Navarro holds family to high regard. Navarro would be the only one to call off a hit. Marty was the one that suggested for Wendy to call Navarro so unless Helen told Navarro she ordered the hit, Navarro wouldn’t know, so when Wendy called him she could have been calling to ask for an extraction or that Ben was in trouble and needed help or anything at all. It was Navarro that jumped in and ‘guessed’ she had him killed.
Or maybe Helen told Navarro she ordered the hit and threw more shade on the Byrdes but Navarro is already getting annoyed with her and hearing she was going to have Ben killed confirmed for him it was time to end Helen. So he called Nelson to call off the hit on Ben and put the hit on Helen.
Either way maybe Nelson kidnapped Ben and had him abducted to Mexico and we will get a family reunion at the fortress in 4-1
@@jmominis I wonder what he would have to substitute his body.
@@jameshawkins6619 I'd bet that if this is what happened that Nelson would have access to a body or Navarro shipped him a sub. There's certainly been no shortage of corpses!
@@jmominis fair enough. Here's another thing. There were people there at the restaurant Wendy left Ben at. You don't think he could have hitched a ride with one of them? Just a thought.
@@jameshawkins6619 That is totally possible, seeing that they didn't show us the actual encounter between Nelson and Ben. Although I think Nelson is probably (for a hit man) pretty honest so he would have to lie about having finished the job, especially with Ben's condition and how he would impulsively tell everyone he meets or try to come back. Nelson would want to secure him until things were settled back in Mexico.
On a side note I noticed that when Marty was talking to Wendy when she was in the van she asked "do you have THE ashes" and not HIS ashes... and "are THEY heavy?" and not is HE heavy... so Marty technically wasn't lying to her. I think Wendy would still be pissed at him for letting her go through such grief but Marty probably be okay with her hating him if it meant she got to keep her brother. (edit - I stand corrected, the audio on you tube wasn't clear - when I watched the episode again on NF Wendy does say "do you have HIS ashes". My bad!)
And Marty was pretty incistent that Ruth not go after Nelson or anyone, but I think if Ruth was going to go after anyone it would be the person that ordered the hit not the hitman, I think she would know that Nelson is just carrying out orders...except in this case maybe he was carrying out different orders and Marty didn't want Ruth getting taken out by Nelson or if she got the drop on him that he would tell her the truth to save himself.
Oh well, a lot of theorization out the window if the bad news is verifeid in the premiere! But its fun to speculate!
My Bi Polar ex was very impulsive and never learned from his mistakes. Very frustrating. And dangerous even for us regular non cartel people! LOL
Very true.
2 parts in a row, I love you guys♥️
They are the absolute best!!!❤️❤️
You almost sound surprised... its the same episode.. what did you expect??
P.S. BB, BCS, and Ozark are the 3 best crime dramas in TV history, and it's not really close!!!
The new show with Kevin Hart and Wesley Snipes (True Story) is a really good show too, but not on the same level. In a way, it even caught me more by surprise, but still not the same level of writing, directing, producing, and acting...but deserves a mention!
Fun fact: the average human remains weigh about eight pounds. That's a gallon of milk.
So I don't believe that Ben is dead. That zoom in on the license plate in the last episode.... Tennessee plates. Why is she driving a vehicle with Tennessee plates? Ben mentioned he had some friends in Knoxville so that's where she was taking him, but they live in Missouri. The the part when she asks about his ashes and if they're heavy... he says "not very". I read that a human being after cremation weighs 4-8 pounds, so that's not that heavy at all but why ask that question? Marty is carrying that bag around like weighs nothing. Then their son's reaction after looking at the ashes. Why shoot out the window? Idk... maybe they're just throwing something at us to give us hope that Ben is alive, but all that was for something you would think. I wonder if they paid Nelson off, and they burned a bunch of paper or something. One more thing, I think Wendy drives a Honda minivan... I've owned a Honda and the tail lights don't look that way. I'm thinking that Ben's friends picked him up.
I couldn't click on this one quick enough! You are the best!
26:23 Marty: "We need to burrow right into the center of this thing." If you can't go above it, below it, or around it, then you go right through it.
LOL! I know Darlene is bat-shit, but ....DAMN!!!
Thanks for the 2-parter. 😊🌺🏝️❤️
One Of The Best React Channels I Enoyed This !
No idea what a bitch wolf is but it is SO what I'm calling the next person that aggravates me. 😂😂
3 years late but i think that line was improvised🤣
One of the best episodes in TV history!
This finale was intense,I initially wasn't gonna watch this show but I always give anything Jason Bateman is in a chance and I'm glad I did.
I was waiting so much for you guys react to this episode!!!! Thank you!
What an episode
19:38: Marty: "I don't think you give a shit about whose life you destroy." Heh. That's rich, AFTER Marty preyed on a very naïve Sam to launder money for him via casino gambling with large amounts of money and assured him that it would all be A-OK if he did so. How many lives has Marty destroyed, by the way -- including his own?
You really dislike Marty.
@@Angryegaroq Hahahaha, well, no. Not really. He’s the sort of antihero that falls along the lines of Tony Soprano and Walter White. Complete sociopaths who ruin almost everyone they come in contact with, but…as a viewer of the show, you’re still rooting for them, at least to an extent. Jason Bateman and Laura Linney absolutely OWN those two roles.
Frank jr got his jr shot off😂😂
Thats gonna leave a mark
I am convinced that had Ruth not got Ben out of the hospital Helen or someone else involved with Navarro would have got him killed in there. He was *not* safe in there. He was (in their eyes) still someone with too much information, with a tendency to fly off the rails, who was feeling wronged by the Byrdes and so now even had a lot of reason to maybe try and exact some revenge/try to explain himself by spilling a couple secrets. He was a huge liability and I am a 100% sure he wouldn't have survived his hospital stay for very long, someone would have killed him. His death was *not* Ruth's fault for getting him out. He was doomed from the start, through no fault of his own, as sad as that is.
AAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYOOOOOO!!!!!!! LETS GO!!!!🙌🏾
VERY excited for the final season.
Ruth Is def the star of this show..
Love you guys, this season was something else! Really hope yous can react to peaky blinders in the future! Season 6 should be sometime in 2021 its amazing!
Oh lord. Here we are. The season 3 finale. 😲
Laura Linney is such a great actress. It's insane how good she is
Nelson doesn't miss dude.
I'll just say this much I have bipolar 2 not bipolar one. And I never have any issues with any of this.
Ozark 10/10
Anyone else on team Darlene and Ruth?
My brother is bi-polar. This is kind of an over dramatized interpretation of it. When he goes manic he talks a lot and is impulsive but wouldn't attack someone for wearing a weird tie.
That is your experience. You are fortunate. So many are not so fortunate. In my experience, with multiple family members and years of professional experience, this is a pretty accurate and humane portrayal of how it goes for some bi polar people.
OMG! OMG! It's here!
23:03
Honestly guys, this show is too much. I have a really thick skin, and like most anyone I'm desensitized by watching all kinds of horror, drama, murders, and just pure insanity of the movies and tv shows we've become accustomed to. I've watched almost all of the "great" tv shows: Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, Son of Anarchy, etc. The kind of shows that takes you on an emotional journey where you feel personally connected to a character or story. This show makes me feel terrible, there are zero moments of levity or calm. Watching Ozark literally leaves me in a state of panic, the actions of these "people" are just inexcusable. I look at my life and think about the things that stress me out like having a silly argument with my wife or losing a big sale at work. I would drop dead from sheer panic over what these people have to live through in one day, What kind of life is this, why would anyone, seriously guys, why would you get involved in this world??? The scariest thing about this show is that these characters mirror actual people who are able to sleep at night after skinning people alive, murdering families, you name it. WTF is wrong with the people in this world that live these horrendous lives and then they have hell to look forward to. I'm honestly done watching TV like this, and I'm a grown ass man.
I'd suggest you guys watch Banshee, but it's not hugely popular 🤷🏾♂️ I just know you two would love that show so maybe watch it on your own time apart from the YT channel
Marty knew he knew it was gonna happen that's why he told him to leave and everybody else baited him into staying and Ruth enabled him to stay off his meds he would have been fine if he just stayed on his meds but Marty knew you can not blame Marty for his death Marty implored him to leave told him the leave Wendy told him to stay so did Ruth it's actually more Wendy's fault Marty had it all set up to leave
NIKKI AND STEVE WHATS BETTER BREAKING BAD OR OZARK ?
Need to see how Ozark ends before answering that one.
@@NikkiStevenReact Agreed. At its current trajectory 📈 who knows, it may end up comparable, seeing as it has gotten better every season. The final seasons of BB were fire 🔥🔥🔥 though. Ozark still has a lot of work to do in my opinion but amazing so far, both great shows.
Breaking bad is better obviously , and adding BCS together because of the same universe ..Ozark is nowhere near ..but still a awesome show
Do you think Ben could still be alive? 🤔
Edit: nvm I just watched until the end. Call me an optimist but I'm 75% sure he's still alive. Why wouldn't we see his death on screen? I feel like Navaro instructed Frank not to kill him for whatever reason
I’ll die on this hill.
No death scene=no death.
Ruth act like Ben's dead all over wendy. She's the one make Ben escape from hospital. Stupid ruth. I think she will be dead in final season
we didn't see Ben's body. it might not be him.
I've been thinking this
Bugger Ozark....(yes it's awesome but....) The Expense drops today
YES!!! Can’t wait!! 🔥
Episode 9 and 10 dried my throat..
The writers of ozark should have wrote dexter new blood. This show is just…. Wow…
You guys should react to “Dark” after you’re finish with this season. Amazing show
Right off the bat: Steven there goes that 5% lol
LET'S GOOOOOO!
I would like if you guys could react to the series bashee i rate this series just as good as ozark ben also play a part in this series
here we go........eeek
Ben is not dead. It's not him im think, he managed to escape, and Nelson had to fall back on someone else, so as not to be killed, too.
I love Ruth!!!!!!
Bro I love y’all reactions. But Nikki is the biggest baby ever😂😂😂😂
just saying .. they never showed him.. i'm probably wrong, but still hoping.
oh shit.
LETS GO
watch gommora ffs! best series ever made ffs
React to Naoki Urasawa's Monster it's a masterpiece, Parasyte: The Maxim, Claymore and Eden of the East.
Monster is fantastic
Finalllyyyyyyyy !
Ruth killed Ben
Heavy BrBa vibes...