The Original Helluva Boss Story: You Would Have Hated Stolas!
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Helluva Boss Pilot was interesting.
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Now they're holding hands!
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I love this
When will they make out?
They basically gave Stolas Pilot personality to Andrealphus and we can all see how that went. 😂
That's probably a real point I didn't consider.
@@CartoonUniverseI liked it when Stolas is actually a dorky father and how nice and fluffy he is.😅😊
He also sounds a lot like the old voice actor of stolas
@@CartoonUniverseDude, I think Stolas (the pilot one) would have an EPIC villain.
Well I must say that Aandrealphus is a dick, I do see the huge resemblance between the pilot Stolas and Andrealphus.
In an alternate universe we’d be cheering for striker.
And Stella of all people.
Not if alternate striker was like current blitzø 😅
@@markthesapphicdumpsterfire1745 Yes Pilot Stella looked less bitchy and more sweet
No 'cause with the way Striker is now, he would be lamer than villain Stolas.
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IMO, Pilot Stolas is the way Blitz sees Stolas, just someone that uses him and has no real interest in seeing him as nothing more than a living sex toy, in exchange of keeping his job going.
I don't think he sees him as nearly that callous. He just can't see himself as that loveable, but he does love Stolas in a way he can't bring himself to acknowledge, as we see in his drug trip.
I don't think you understand the level of depressive thinking Blitzø is in, and that's honestly a good thing. You shouldn't go there
In the pilot it doesnt really feels that they are building a romance between Blitzo and stolas. It feels more like a "Leela and captain Zapp" situation
Thanks god stolas turned out to be a the cute fluffy owl he is
Yeah, thank goodness.
and a little deprest
True
all i hear is "thank god they turned him into a woobified uwu sadboy who can do no wrong"
@@iwantedtobethatanomaly2270 Bruh LOL
I think he would have the same personality as Stella’s brother.
No wonder there’s so much incest energy between Stella and Andrealphus
Them changing stolas is likely why they gave that personality to her brother
Andrealphus
Really the way I saw pilot stolas and the way he sounded made think that we would’ve seen some abusive relationship a little bit similar to angel dust and Valentino where stolas was more dominant than we have now.
Pilot Stolas was definitely Top because he wanted to do the Blow Job to Blitzø
@@ashlynwolff Actually, I saw people calling him a power bottom during the pilot days.
I liked the original Stolas because he made sense. You can over lay the original Stolas personality towards Blitz with new Stolas genuine fatherly love for his daughter Octavia creating a well balanced multi layered character. This also moves a bit of sympathy towards Blitz making both characters more nuanced.
I definitely prefer the current reality 😎😎
Don't we all?!🤩
I domt
I absolutely adore the Stolas we have now, but I would also have loved to gotten to meet a darker more villainous Stolas as well.
Actually at some times we can get Sassy and Cunning side of Stolas in show too
@@ashlynwolff sassy, cunning and villainous Stolas then
Having watched this video, I kind of wish we got a Stolas somewhere between the two. Have Stolas start of as a master manipulator just using Blitzo to screw over the other Ars Goetia for his own benefits, with sleeping with Blitzo just being an added bonus, only to eventually develop actual feelings for him. They could have then had the extra drama of the Ars Goetia finding out that Blitzo has the Grimoire and what he has been doing, and Stolas having to make the decision of whether or not to still let Blitzo take the fall or actually own up and come to the imp he now loves' defence.
Instead we got a sweet, caring, goofy, awkward, thirsty owl dad we all care very much about
Its fair that they rewrote stolas because in the pilot stolas still talked abt the arrangement and at some point he should have felt bad so i think they made stolas more of a emotional person who just wants someone who loves him
Considering Stolas was to have a family no matter which way he was written, I’d kind of love to have seen a darker version of his family, with him and Stella bickering but perhaps staying together because they can both barely tolerate how awful each other are. And then Octavia… imagine having a badass evil daughter of the antagonist getting back at Blitz for meddling with her dad cause of course she’d still have daddy issues. Idk. I’m sure what Viv would have given us would have been just as fun as what we have now if she decide to go with her first ideas, but I’m also happy with what we have now. I do sometimes with we could see a little evil creep out of Stolas from time to time, even if he’s kept soft, emotional and dramatic.
Probably no evil will ever happen, but I can definitely see two things that can set him off, just like he did with the DHORKS, the first time. Seeing Blitz and Octavia in a position of grave danger. And yes, right now, it doesn't look like he would care about Blitz, but we know that things will change anyway, and they will reconcile. While for Octavia.. he literally had no hesitation to petrify an imp who wanted to attack him and Octavia. He definitely wasn't afraid of the guy. He did this for Octavia's safety and only hers, since she doesn't know how to fight. If she ended up in a very dangerous, where she would be about to be killed, Stolas would have all the reasons to go mad and trying to kill whoever is getting close to her.
As someone who doesn't like Stolas as he is, I would've preferred villain Stolas at this point. Sure, he might parallel Alastor as a villain deutagonist too much, but Alastor is more chaotic evil while Stolas could be the lawful evil counterpart that takes the story in its own direction.
Plus, we'd likely get a good, more complex Stella to make up for Vivziepop's lack of competence at making good female characters (Only two of them are solid). I think Stolas could've been more entertainingly evil while still showing a caring side for his daughter, instead of neglecting her so much when he's supposed to be the good guy like in the actual show.
All in all, we love the version they gave us of Stolas! His is character development is amazing, he went from horny comic relief to one of the most tragic and beautiful characters in the show.
Hazbin and helluva as just 1 show all together would've been really interesting
I do think the Cherubs so just go work w/ Charlie instead of hunting I.M.P.
@ZeldaSam1 The goat girl and Cleetus, by their actions, feels like they are going to descend further into messed up stuff. While their sheep friend, (which I also forgot the name of, and probably the animal he is too..), might end up telling them to fck off, considering we keep seeing that he doesn't want to do any of that. Also, another point to add to this real quick, they tried to kill hellborbs. So unless this rule of not attacking hellborns is only for the exorcists, these guys lost all chances to ever be accepted back into heaven.
@@skaynne54Keenie and Collin.
@@ZeldaSam1tbh idk if they would considering how corrupt they and the rest of Heaven are shown to be
I kinda want stolas to be the bad guy again
A broken heart sure would do it if Blitzo doesn't do something in time.
me too
For Stolas to begin his villain arc, he would have to go through a very painful character break. And yes, it would be a very interesting arc to see, How that person, who despite his flaws was still someone sweet who just wanted to be loved, breaks completely and no longer cares about anything, he will take what he wants and will not let them hurt him again
I hate him now, the original one would have made me liked him
would hate him? my brother in Christ, i hate him still. I've been hating him since the beginning!
I bet Viv is glad she took this route, especially after all the rigorous theory videos and barely clothed Stolas merch
Thank goodness they did. I love my sweet sad owl prince.
Kinda Happy he ain’t Evil Cuz Geez he’s Was kinda a Monster in the Original ideas for the show.
Pilot and Episode 1 Stolas is so FUCKING HORNY
I agree. Also I love your profile picture of Velvette.😅😁
I guess they rewrote Stolas not after pilot but after episode 1 after hearing Bryce Pinkham (new VA) voice recording and all crew went "aaaaaaw it's too cute, we must rewrite it!" (yes in original source it was stated that was the main reason of changing Stolas's personality to more sweet)
@@ashlynwolff I really love it.😍💕
Likewise in heaven, especially when Adam admits about global warming is not a heaven problem, but a human problem.
So heaven and hell has the same mindset
i like both versions, "and it gets lonely here you know what happens when im lonely blitzy" both voices are burnt into my brain
I personally am super glad that they decided to give the show an emotional heart and really took advantage of newly-cast-at-the-time Bryce Pinkham's acting range, which in turn pushed Brandon Rogers to show off more of HIS range. For me, the show would've been exhausting and somewhat offputting if it was wacky kill-the-humans antics all episode every week, that's my least favorite part of the show. I mean for real, if you've got Bryce Pinkham and you're not using him to sing big dramatic ballads what are you even DOING with your life?
Video idea: The original Hazbin Hotel story. Because you can’t tell me what they did to Lucifer isn’t a sign that there were major and minor changes done to Hazbin Hotel.
Good idea
@@deepcut7788 Thank you very much! This video idea is entirely for you!
I'm glad Viv changed Stolas' character and gave him sympathy, because it would be harder to watch the pilot Stolas on screen.
It would be easier since they're trying to demonize him 😂
Bold of you to assume i don't already hate stolas lol
Personally, I would prefer if Stolas remained as a villain. I mean, Stolas, the series was very clear and frank with himself and with others, but Stolas, in the pilot episode, was ambiguous and somewhat suspicious, and also Stolas’s sexual desires would have been likely to be a play prepared by Stolas to lure Blitz into carrying out his desires, and that was the plot. It will develop into a crossover between Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel
Don't get me wrong, I like Stolas being sympathetic and kind, but the plot would have been better if he was evil
Personally I dislike him now too. Like at first I liked they changed him, but when someone pointed how Viv make everyone around them being the bad one so he can be good made me dislike him a little bit
I know this is mostly speculation, but it would've made for a good plot in an alternate universe. Ultimately, I'm happy that Stolas became a character that we want to empathise with. After all, it is hell, and there is no shortage of potential evil big bads.
4:02 I would honestly LOVE to see the Cherubs go work w/ Charlie instead of hunting I.M.P.!!!
Stolas' character development was amazing. From some rich dude who just seemed to want to sleep with the hot imp next door and saying dirty things at every opportunity to a caring father, who is unhappy with his wife and falling in love with Blitz for real and not caring for their differences in status, to outright confess his feelings to Blitz, even trough he knows that their relationship is not the standard. Best character! ❤️
Im so glad they didnt make stolas like valentino 😌
I like pilot stolis SOOOoOOOoOOOOoo MUCH Better then this lame crybaby one we have now
Lame crybaby?
I'm with you. We're one of the few people who like pilot Stolas more.
@@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982
Have you seen him lately? 😂
Pilot Stolas stans rise up! ✋
@@ApricityGlow Hell yeah!
That explains why Stolas looked like a villain in the show's original poster
You mean the one where they're all kind of falling and Stolas is looking down?
I’m gonna say it: Unpopular opinion but I don’t like how current Stolas has changed the trajectory of the show.
I went into _HB_ hoping for a more episodic, Brandon Rogers-vibed, _Invader Zim_-esque murder comedy. The kind of show I feel I could comfortably recommend to _Invader Zim_ fans. Like _IZ,_ the primary premise doesn’t need to interfere with expanding the world (there are plenty of episodes that are more about Zim’s background than his actual mission to infiltrate and conquer Earth, and even among the Earth episodes, there are a lot of episodes that offer a peek into Irken society and Zim’s actual skills at almost anything other than his mission). “Harvest Moon”, for instance, probably could have worked mostly unchanged were Stolas the main antagonist instead; Striker just maybe could have been acting independently as someone who, like most Wrath imps, just hates the elite and wants them dead and Stolas is an easy target at the moment, but, though Blitzø can sympathize, he still needs Stolas alive to keep his business afloat.
Besides, the hints about Blitzø’s past showed up as early as “Loo Loo Land” with Robo Fizz (technically before that if you count the circus stuff in the background all around I.M.P.’s office in the pilot and “Murder Family”). We still would have had plenty of opportunity to see more around Hell without having to involve Stolas as the central love interest. Heck, maybe Stolas in an antagonistic role would have made for more excuses to explore around Hell regardless because, again, with this premise, we kinda want to root against him but Blitzø still needs him alive for his business.
Look, *TL;DR:* I would’ve really loved to see this version of _Helluva Boss._ If I wanted an inter-class romance drama, I’d go to any trashy visual novel app.
You know when the pilot episode, I didn’t really like him by chance, but in the full series, we get to see more of his personality changes in real life. It also makes sense that he wants to admit his feelings towards the man he loves in real life and I’m not trying to blow it all up this time like he did previous episodes.
El desarrollo del personaje de Stolas fue asombroso. Desde un tipo rico que parecía querer acostarse con el diablillo atractivo de al lado y decir cosas sucias en cada oportunidad hasta un padre cariñoso, que no está contento con su esposa y se enamora de Blitz de verdad y no le importan sus diferencias. estado, para confesar abiertamente sus sentimientos a Blitz, incluso aunque sabe que su relación no es el estándar. ¡El mejor personaje!
Unrelated but I have a theory. It will eventually be revealed that the royal that Blitz was tricked by was Andrealphus!
Stolas as a villain now that’s interesting if we ever get a Helluva Boss, [What If]
Jokes on you, I ended up hating him, thanks to bad writing.
I agree Millie was probably not originally trans, she just was a white haired imp who wanted dark hair for some reason. The hair color tied to birth sex seemed to have started in the series post- pilot as you see other imps in the pilot with inconsistent designs, too.
I do think it's cool that they standardized the hair colors later as another trait that doesn't get as much notice as the horns.
In the pilot I think you see some imps with even naturally bi-colored hair, and the mom with the carriage has white hair but also doesn't have normal imp horns at all. The pilot was really a whole separate rodeo before the world building was finalized. Like a beta level of a familiar game that surprises you with its differences.
I wonder if this recon of the season 2 episode 1 was done because Viv realize that Stolas came across as a Weinstein which would have gotten her alot more backlash from the full moon episode.
So this is basically “Helluva Boss: The Good Version.”
I love a well done evil royal and i would have liked to have seen pilot stolas more in the regular series. However i cant deny that stolas has become one of my favorite characters regardless of the changes made.
If this concept was kept, we would have definitely gotten some kind of rendition of "You'll Be Back" from Hamilton. lol
I find I interesting of how Stolas was originality going to be.
I think we may be headed towards a focus more in the direction of what was originally intended now with the asmodean crystal and them technically being under Asmodeus jurisdiction - Asmodeus may have some political agendas behind the scenes he will have the IMP carry out (or possibly rent out to the other sins), getting the IMP involved in earth politics after all and giving the characters originally intended for that more time to shine (like DHORKS)
Viv definitely made stolas to be one of the fan favs with shipping him with the mc
He was already a fan favorite before the change though.
I’m so glad that they made Stolas way more sympathetic and nicer than how he was in the pilot, and it seems to me like they then gave that manipulative, evil personality to Andrealphus.🤔
Tbh if Stolas was a villain...I'd probably still be simping for him.
Wait a second, isn’t racer rabbit just the Alastor vs Vox thing
its actually modeled after a scene from the Sonic the Hedgehog OVA where Sonic fights Metal Sonic
@@CartoonUniverse I don’t remember sonic holding hands with his metal counterpart
@@CartoonUniverseAWESOME!🤩
Well I promised to make it gayer
@@CartoonUniverse NOOOOOOO-
I hate stolas now.
Theory: Pilot Sella would actually end up being in love with Blitzo and becoming the victim of spousal abuse.
Do you think it would have been possible to have kept the villain stolas but write him slowly becoming the version we got? Or would the way he started have been too unredeemable?
If they went with the original, most of us will be rooting for Stella more because she is the one who is in love with Stolas and would even found it is very tiring to deal with Stolas kept prioritizing the politics and power plays of the Ars Goetia over his own family, which is something he most likely told her and Octavia in case they discovered that the grimiore happened to be in Blitz's possession.
To think in the original plot Stella would be the birb we all know and love and might of even gotten a focus episode.
I’m happy we got the helluva boss we have because it’s a lot more interesting especially stolas and I’m happy instead of earth (I mean who wants to see a lot of episodes of this dump) the other rings are being explored and I can’t wait for the final sins to be revealed which Satan is next and then probably leviathan considering someone from helluva boss I THINK it was vivziepop but I could be wrong said they were really close with being done with the designs and stuff for Satan and leviathan and then the princess of sloth bellephegor who’ll be the last one because she wasn’t mentioned about being close to completion (unless I’m wrong)
White spots on an imp are meant to indicate scars, like with Fizz and his entire face scarred white except for his nose, so I always thought the white spots in the hair meant that character at one point had a head injury.
Honestly by going off the story with stop as a blitz drama I would like this stolas better
4:07 i got a theory that yk blitz shows up in the hh pilot, imagine he's trying to keep charlie in business by starting I.M.P. like yk he brings more sinners in but charlie brings sinners out 😃
Blitz was originally going to be a secondary character to HH who would act as an "opposite" to Charlie, the opposite side of the coin. As Charlie tries to redeem the sinners and put the past behind them, Blitz adds fuel to the fire by inciting them to take revenge, causing the sinners to act on their resentment.
in the nicest way possible-bryce pinkham doesnt have a villainous voice. he has a softer voice that wouldnt fit a mean/evil stolas. *in no way am i shitting on bryce, ive seen him in 2 broadway shows and hes fabulous*
But he still gave off pilot-like vibes in episode one. One could get the impression that he was being purposefully condescending and manipulative. It could have been a neat contrast for this devious, cool villain to have a soft, light voice. (To be clear, I would have greatly preffered Baker, but I would take what I could get if Stolas could have remained a villain.)
Bold to assume I would have hated villain Stolas when I loved him from the beginning and was disappointed and heartbroken to see him be rewritten. What happened to all my fellow fans thirsting over Stolas during the pilot days? 😭
Oh, don't worry. I still very much dislike him (hate is to strong a word for me)
I get a strong feeling you want Stolas to be the Villain with the personality since you keep bringing him up in your videos
I think I speak for us all when I say I’m glad we got the Stolas we have now instead of the one from the pilot. The Stolas we have now is a lot better, I mean a lot. If the pilot Stolas was the official version we see now, I might not be able to watch Helluva Boss.
You don't speak for us all. I'm disappointed and heartbroken that the menacing, regal, intimidating, and intelligent Stolas was canned. It's actually hard for me to watch Helluva Boss when he's on-screen because I think of how far he's fallen.
@@ApricityGlowso true
In my opinion stolas being the villian would have been more interesting.
Personally i feel the story would have been more interesting if they stuck to keeping stolas as a villain. If that did happen I could probably imagine Blitz and Stolas's relationship to be very simalar to angel dust and valentino, albiet to a lesser extent due to no soul contract. It would have definitely made Blitz more tragic as a result due to having to deal with Stolas's sexual and emotional abuse towards him piled on top of the circus fire tragedy that blitz was already having a hard time dealing with. Now as for stella, I know some might think that if stolas was the villain she'd be the innocent one trying to keep the peace, however for me that wouldn't be that interesting because it'd just be a reversal of what is currently known. So instead I'd probably I have stella's personality be close to the same as it is in the show, She'd be cruel towards him but more understandibly so considering his actions. As for Via, well I think she'd stay the same but her situation with dealing with her parents constantly fighting and what would be worse is that stolas wouldn't be trying to act all innocent but instead verbally insulting stella and making via just fed up with it.
these are just a few ideas i thought of for villains stolas, but what would you all think.
They should have stuck with the original plot.
I also wonder if how they would have met would be different. I’d Viv had gone with the pilot story, I genuinely wonder if she would have kept them being friends as kids. I know she’s said she always imagined them meeting as kids, but she might have changed her mind if this is how the story would’ve gone.
I’m glad they changed him to be softer and more sympathetic
I really wish that the show followed the original plot, not that I hate the way it goes now but I SIGNIFICANTLY would have liked the original idea better, the show has truly changed wether it was planned or not, I have been watching since the first episode came out and I remember being so extremely in love with the plot, but it has changed and feels so much like a different show
Yeah honestly that sounds like it would've been a much more compelling show.
I do hate Stolas. I sympathize with him and think he may yet redeem himself. But it doesn't change the shitty decisions he's made. And the person he is informs those decisions.
He's a great character. And a victim of his own traumas. But he's just not a good person. Not yet at least.
Here is a thought: would pilot Stolas and Stella have had a more happy relationship? Stella seems to hate Stolas in part because of what a soft boi he is. If Stolas where more manipulative/cruel Stella and Stolas would probably have been able to have a marriage of convenience with them being friends of sorts, if not having an out right romantic relationship. I could see Stella having no problem with pilot Stolas having sex with Blitzo so long has Stolas keeps it on the down low. In this cause it would be Stolas just getting his jolly's off at the novelty of being rough dogged by a peasant so Stella wouldn't have to worry about loosing all the perks she gets from being married to Stolas.
Where did you get the idea that Stella hates Stolas for being soft? I'm curious because all she said when asked was "I enjoy tormenting you" with no elaboration as to why. I myself headcanon a little she hates being in an arranged marriage and takes it out unfairly on him, but it's just a headcanon because there's literally zero insight into Stella's hatred.
The original stolas would've been way better. The stolas we have is jar-jar binks 😂
I think this developed prospect is confusing. First of all I think stolas should've been evil in the entire series. I would love to see this different version but NOPE!!! We get to see more stolas loving to blitz! I think stella in the pilot was originally supposed to be a good mother and stolas to be a bad father. But in season 2 is the opposite way and that upset me!
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honestly I feel like evil stolas would've been better written
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Really the way I saw pilot stolas and the way he sounded made think that we would’ve seen some abusive relationship a little bit similar to angel dust and Valentino where stolas was more dominant than we have now
I on the contrary would have loved to get that Evil Stolas, I've seen lots of stories featuring evil Stolas and holy fuck...I can only dream of
Ghost: wait stolas was a bad guy?
Imp: yeah.
Ogre: well at least they changed him.
I hate Stolas NOW. Wait, leme finish the video.
Kinda Wish he was a Villain but his series is ok
What do I prefer cruel stolas or nice stolas. I think pilot stolas could be an interesting character to explore but I like series stolas.
"We would have hated original Stolas". Nope. I would have actually loved the amoral, cool, mysterious, cunning, regal, and actually powerful villain WAY more than the woobified man baby we're stuck with now. I love me a good villain. Stolas being the villain doesn't mean he couldn't have been compelling or interesting, or gotten actually good character development. The Stolas we have now is NOT interesting to me BECAUSE he is never presented as being in the wrong for anything (even though he is) it's everyone else who are in the wrong. Completely taking away a character's flaws and moral grayness doesn't mean "better". Quite the opposite actually.
I absolutely couldn't agree more
I mostly agree, but most people are blaming stolas for stuff that's not really his fault.
It would've been fun having a character similar to alastor on helluva boss though
YES! Thank you for putting it in words I couldn't! He was so deliciously menacing and could have brought in plots that could be way more interesting than what we got. I also prefer intelligent characters, and soft Stolas just isn't it.
OMG...
i think i just got an idea for a new AU and comic..
Brb. ✌️
“Would you ship them”
Me: why the hell not, they act like sonic and shadow and I already ship those fools
That's basically the joke is its a series where you get a Sonic/Shadow or Naruto/Sasuke kind of dynamic, but we play it up for laughs and bonding.
I hate him in both instances btw 0_0
Some people really don’t know that the pilot isn’t canon anymore, and it doesn’t help that it (edit: used to be) a part of the official playlist when it shouldn’t be, so this can confuse a LOT of fans! It’s no wonder many people have issues with this show - the pilot vs the final show has thrown a lot of people off. It doesn’t help that in contrast, Hazbin’s pilot IS canon to the final show….it’s a mess. In any case, I’m glad they saved the original Blitz/Stolas dynamic for Hazbin Hotel, since Angel Dust and Valentino already have that dynamic, and explore a different one in Helluva Boss. Discrediting HB’s pilot just is something more fans/viewers should be aware of….
the pilot isn’t on the helluva boss playlist
@@gabbyslvr it used to be, glad they removed it. I hope that’ll help clear things up for future viewers of the show.
Still dont like he isnt like ancient
I would prefer the pilot it could work very well
0:53 is this supposed to be sonadow because that’s how I see it C:
yess
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I think I prefer an evil Stolas over what we got.
I like pilot stoles wayyy more tbh
Geez, I remember how Stolas acted in the Pilot and yeah it was just pretty weird. I heard he's going to be a main villain in the show, I mean if he was a villain then I'm sure he'll treat Blitz badly and possibly rape him especially during that phone call in the Pilot. Luckily, Stolas would never rape Blitz on the main series even though calling Blitz a plaything is definitely not okay. Also we don't need a Valentino 2.0!😬