@@bikdav Most of the newer busses are equipped with Alison Automatic transmissions. What you do is steer, push the gas, step on the brake. You don't have to shift or use the clutch pedal. Most busses are now equipped with disc brakes.
Had a loaner dump truck years ago DT466 with the Spicer 6+1, started off with the clutch, was then able to "float" the gears(no clutch) great set up. Local gravel pit over loaded me with 39,880lbs of gravel, handled the load no problems even with juice brakes. My personal favorite is my 1987 S1900 with a DT466 and a 5+2 trans, air brakes and oh yeah the turbo sound!
Estos autobuses me traen buenos recuerdos ya que en casi todas las ciudades de los Estados del norte de México se usaban para transporte público, de hecho en algunas ciudades aún se usan
Man, I would love to see what it's like to drive a manual bus. Ohio only allows automatic buses for all school buses now. I learned how to drive stick when I was in trucking school. Had never driven a stick shift of any kind before I went to trucking school, but insisted on learning on a manual so my CDL would not have the restriction. Now I get to tell everyone I learned how to drive stick on an eighteen-wheeler.
Awesome test driving Eric! So sad school buses for sale that are manual transmission are very unpopular! Maybe Jonny Ringo and Alex from las vegas bus sales can do a test drive if they receive a manual transmission bus!
The manual transmissions were being phased out by the late 1980's early 1990's. Ford started installing automatic transmissions about 1970 as an option. Other manufacturers followed suit and most busses are now automatics and also gasoline engines are not available anymore. They use diesel, propane, CNG or LNG. Also disc brakes are now being used.
@@superbrownsheep3777 I did check and IC which is a subsidiary of International trucks has an 8.8 litre gasoline engine and so does Blue Bird. They also have CNG and propane powered buses in lieu of the diesel engines. Most buses are equipped with Allison automatic transmissions.
When I was in elementary school (94-00) all the school buses my district used were manual. After that they started becoming really scarce quickly, and by 9th grade (04) they were mostly gone. 😢
I wonder if you have to order it. I found a video of a 2010 Thomas C2 with a manual transmission ruclips.net/video/Y-bq9NoFaf8/видео.htmlsi=Fo5LIyuHfjFb5b2O
you guys did excellent video i love it how you driving that school bus blue bird i can't wait to see more driving videos about your school busses keep it up my friend
I've been driving school bus for 25yrs I started when I was 19 in 1997 , the first 5 yrs I drove I had a stick shift , I loved it . I wish I still had one today 😪
Late 2000s when buses in our city still used manual transmission, I often marveled at the bus drivers’ decisiveness and exaggerated movements in switching gears when they were making a 90° turn. Like in the video the gear shaft is connect to the floor so it’s quite long and requires a greater angle of motion to switch gears. The bus driver would sometimes make dramatic arm movements or tilt his his body forward and back to hit the right gear while his hand was spinning the stirring wheel at 30kph but his eyes were fixed on the road. It’s quite an amusing sight to behold for a kid
When I was in elementary school in iowa around 08 one of our spare busses was a Chevy bluebird with a manual, my bus driver was very rough driving that 🤣
I drove several old fire department vehicles that were straight shift and no synchronizers so we had to double-clutch the things. They were ladder trucks and pumpers.
The American companies should keep their stickshift line going for the export markets in the Caribbean, Latin American, African and Asian countries that uses manual gearboxes more than automatic transmission to handle the rugged terrain of countries
This is really a 7 speed manual,i don't know why american car companies does lable the gear pattern differently from the rest of the world when the L gear is a forward moving gear
Now let's do it with a non-synchromesh transmission. When I was a kid we had Internationals with 5-speed non-synchro, manual steering and turn signals.
That girl you hired to record did NOT get the MEMO about the title of the video, she thought it was about recording the sunshine! What a waste of time!!!!!
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WERE manual transmissions? How long ago are you talking and in what parts of WV? I know they used to like up into the early eighties. They were being phased out by the mid,late eighties except for the old couple spare buses they would bring out every once in a great while. In my neck of WV. Born,raised and still there. They have had automatic since the eighties an they have been gone since the early ninties in my area.
The school bus I rode in 2003 got a new bus and it was a manual international Bluebird. After that in 2005 they started purchasing all automatic. They went to Navistar IC and now they have all Thomas Saf-T-Liner.
@@pianogospel05 That's awesome! What county in WV? Berkeley and Jefferson were as I described. Hard to believe they were ALL manual or even mostly manual in 2004.I have no reason to doubt you though. In any case that's cool.
I miss that generation of trucks. Styling, engine sounds, manual shifters. These new trucks are boring, and they all come with the same boring Cummins. That engine is too quiet, sounds like it’s all choked up and knocking rods.
It's a synchronized transmission so floating can cause lots of damage over time. Hes putting the clutch to the floor to shift so definitely synchronized.
It's good smooth shifting though. Where I used to work we had sync 6&7 speed spicers in 5 tons. Tandems had 10&13 speeds. Tractors were 10, 13&18. Had to keep in mind what you were driving from shift to shift. Both work shift and transmission shift
How nice are these manual transmissions? What I mean is, some old simple transmissions shift like a piece of farm equipment, and do not feel like modern, "automotive-like" shifting. Are these Spicers more like shifting a F-350, or more like the sloppy, worn-out shifter of a some old John Deer tractor from the '50s?
what a nice smooth looking bus, i used to drive a 1969 manual crown school bus 10 years ago for the San Bernadino unified schools in indio ca not sure if they still have them but fun ole times
Is a nice test and nice bus, we love this cane buses because what we do is swap the engine 8.3 Cummins or 5.9 and run like champion, thanks for the video amigo!👌🏽👋
@@ChristinaHutton-c5t the engines are banned. The emissions are too dirty and California won’t let you renew registration. Thousand and thousand of good trucks made illegal.
At one time the automatics weren't reliable & without electronic controls the shifting logic was terrible. Today driver "training & retention" would suffer (more than covid) if they had manuals.
Can you do a Test Drive of an Automatic School Bus too? That would be Great. Although nobody knows how to drive a Stick then what is so fascinating about stick shifts? Like who wants to mess with a shifter? In my opinion I think automatics are just easier so you can focus on the road. Not many people can multi task and shift while watching the road.
If there is anyone who cannot drive any large Commercial vehicle with a Manual Shift Transmission, then they have no business getting behind the wheel of these vehicles at all. All Large Commercial Vehicles, including School Buses should have Manual Transmissions, and Air Brakes, and this should be a Federal Mandate, there should never be any large Commercial Vehicles with Automatic Transmissions, or Hydraulic Brakes.
I like driving manuals. They are more fun and engaging for me. The automatic feels boring to drive. It’s like paying to win, smash the accelerator and the thing goes. Just feels cool to me to be in control of the beast.
Driving stick is a lost art!!! Daggummit, Eric!!!!! You and Jack are the MEN!!!!!! Roll that bus!!!! LOL Lovin it man!!!!!
You’re so right about that. I’ve been away for a long time.
@@bikdav Most of the newer busses are equipped with Alison Automatic transmissions.
What you do is steer, push the gas, step on the brake.
You don't have to shift or use the clutch pedal. Most busses are now equipped with disc brakes.
@@frankdenardo8684 Yes, I’ve seen the disc brakes.
@@bikdav You can get about 500.000 miles before changing them.
We have plenty of manual bus drivers here in Malaysia
Long Live the Manuals!
Had a loaner dump truck years ago DT466 with the Spicer 6+1, started off with the clutch, was then able to "float" the gears(no clutch) great set up. Local gravel pit over loaded me with 39,880lbs of gravel, handled the load no problems even with juice brakes. My personal favorite is my 1987 S1900 with a DT466 and a 5+2 trans, air brakes and oh yeah the turbo sound!
But I love the clutch
@Ozzie1st_ Ours were rentals. Always use the clutch on my '87.
Best combo, Bird , Binder and a DT.
Estos autobuses me traen buenos recuerdos ya que en casi todas las ciudades de los Estados del norte de México se usaban para transporte público, de hecho en algunas ciudades aún se usan
Man, I would love to see what it's like to drive a manual bus. Ohio only allows automatic buses for all school buses now. I learned how to drive stick when I was in trucking school. Had never driven a stick shift of any kind before I went to trucking school, but insisted on learning on a manual so my CDL would not have the restriction. Now I get to tell everyone I learned how to drive stick on an eighteen-wheeler.
I agree about the restriction 100%!!
Great video! Can you please do more bus test drive videos?
I concur!
Awesome test driving Eric! So sad school buses for sale that are manual transmission are very unpopular! Maybe Jonny Ringo and Alex from las vegas bus sales can do a test drive if they receive a manual transmission bus!
The manual transmissions were being phased out by the late 1980's early 1990's. Ford started installing automatic transmissions about 1970 as an option. Other manufacturers followed suit and most busses are now automatics and also gasoline engines are not available anymore. They use diesel, propane, CNG or LNG. Also disc brakes are now being used.
@@frankdenardo8684 You sure about that? Because from what I heard, Bluebird and IC provides a gasoline option for their Conventional school buses now
@@superbrownsheep3777 I did check and IC which is a subsidiary of International trucks has an 8.8 litre gasoline engine and so does Blue Bird. They also have CNG and propane powered buses in lieu of the diesel engines. Most buses are equipped with Allison automatic transmissions.
Great gearing for that hill!!
Go Erick!!! Thanks for uploading a test drive!
Back in the early 90s, I drove school bus for a company that had a few busses with manuals and air brakes.
Wish the seats had more cushioning and confort.
You don't see a lot of school busses with that Transmission but Eric is shifting like a boss
looks like that tranny is a synchromesh, no need double clutch
Good driving skills
As a kid,I was weirdly mesmerized by watching our bus driver operate the stick. Almost asmr-y!😮
When I was in elementary school (94-00) all the school buses my district used were manual. After that they started becoming really scarce quickly, and by 9th grade (04) they were mostly gone. 😢
Love it. That baby’s got some Torque!!!
I didn't know they still had manual transmission busses into the 2000's.
I wonder if you have to order it. I found a video of a 2010 Thomas C2 with a manual transmission
ruclips.net/video/Y-bq9NoFaf8/видео.htmlsi=Fo5LIyuHfjFb5b2O
I didn't either...this is blowing my mind! I thought manual school buses went out of vogue back in the late '70s.
A manual transmission compensates for a sedentary lifestyle, because the driver moves much more😂
you guys did excellent video i love it how you driving that school bus blue bird i can't wait to see more driving videos about your school busses keep it up my friend
I love your vids!!
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I’ve driven a many of those transmissions. The only problem with them are the gears are very far forward and to reach. Annoying!
That transmission is the one that you have to double clutch like the semi truck?
I'm hoping to get my own Bluebird international school bus after I get a driver's license from Northwest Bus sale
My girlfriend learned how to drive stick on a video game at the age of 41
What video game was this?
I am looking for a 6 window, and a manual would be neat but then I would need AIR HORNS. Edmonton Alberta.
I’d love to have a manual transmission in my bus.
Regardless of what the placard says it's a 7-speed.
What’s the price for this bus do you have more in interest
Thanks for the video!!
I reamber I went to school all old buses we 5 speed both gas and diesel manuals love ride them bus 184 Gas 210 diesel we're manals
I've been driving school bus for 25yrs I started when I was 19 in 1997 , the first 5 yrs I drove I had a stick shift , I loved it . I wish I still had one today 😪
🔥🔥🔥
DAYUM dats a sweet ride... And in a '00 model ❤️❤️❤️❤️... I want one!
Partridge Family bus?
no heel/toe rev-matching?
This guy: "Hyuk! Hyuk! Gen-Z can't drive stick. Nobody can drive stick no more."
Also this guy: **shifts from second to fifth**
Late 2000s when buses in our city still used manual transmission, I often marveled at the bus drivers’ decisiveness and exaggerated movements in switching gears when they were making a 90° turn. Like in the video the gear shaft is connect to the floor so it’s quite long and requires a greater angle of motion to switch gears. The bus driver would sometimes make dramatic arm movements or tilt his his body forward and back to hit the right gear while his hand was spinning the stirring wheel at 30kph but his eyes were fixed on the road. It’s quite an amusing sight to behold for a kid
When I went to school old ladies would drive those. The only thing missing is the manual door handle.
When I was in elementary school in iowa around 08 one of our spare busses was a Chevy bluebird with a manual, my bus driver was very rough driving that 🤣
I drove several old fire department vehicles that were straight shift and no synchronizers so we had to double-clutch the things. They were ladder trucks and pumpers.
The American companies should keep their stickshift line going for the export markets in the Caribbean, Latin American, African and Asian countries that uses manual gearboxes more than automatic transmission to handle the rugged terrain of countries
This is really a 7 speed manual,i don't know why american car companies does lable the gear pattern differently from the rest of the world when the L gear is a forward moving gear
Now let's do it with a non-synchromesh transmission. When I was a kid we had Internationals with 5-speed non-synchro, manual steering and turn signals.
Years ago I would drive snow plow 3208 Catapiller and a 10 speed Fuller Roadranger.
Stick shifts in international 3800 school buses are vary rare now. sadly its a lost art now.
Gorgeous shifting rod
"don't call me Jack" "look, i don't mean anything by it" "it just happens to be my name!"
You should do this with ALL your buses
That girl you hired to record did NOT get the MEMO about the title of the video, she thought it was about recording the sunshine!
What a waste of time!!!!!
I use your youtube videos as my white noise to help me sleep at night. also I am autistic. i like 15 passenger vans, and Airbus A321 aircraft as a hobby. i also like Yamaha stereo equipment.
We are very happy that you enjoy our videos! Thank you for watching!
Grind em till ya find em
All our county busses in West Virginia were Manual Transmissions. B700 and International BlueBirds.
WERE manual transmissions? How long ago are you talking and in what parts of WV? I know they used to like up into the early eighties. They were being phased out by the mid,late eighties except for the old couple spare buses they would bring out every once in a great while. In my neck of WV. Born,raised and still there. They have had automatic since the eighties an they have been gone since the early ninties in my area.
The school bus I rode in 2003 got a new bus and it was a manual international Bluebird. After that in 2005 they started purchasing all automatic. They went to Navistar IC and now they have all Thomas Saf-T-Liner.
@@pianogospel05 That's awesome! What county in WV? Berkeley and Jefferson were as I described. Hard to believe they were ALL manual or even mostly manual in 2004.I have no reason to doubt you though. In any case that's cool.
That's odd that bus having that transmission
This would make for an awesome skoolie!
How much for the bus 🤔
Is it a Weller Reman unit?
The gas gauge is broken
Yay Eric's back
My International truck was like that. They listed it as a “6 plus.” I miss the manual.
I miss that generation of trucks. Styling, engine sounds, manual shifters. These new trucks are boring, and they all come with the same boring Cummins. That engine is too quiet, sounds like it’s all choked up and knocking rods.
@@callofdutyguy9 Those Cummins are boring. But, they made a good name for themselves.
@@bikdav they’re good engines. But I think someone should take a shot at them and make them earn their spot properly.
@@callofdutyguy9 That's a good point all right.
Hello buses are for sale ??
Bobs and vagíne yes
I wonder of that's like an Eaton Fuller where you can float it 🤔
It's a synchronized transmission so floating can cause lots of damage over time. Hes putting the clutch to the floor to shift so definitely synchronized.
It's good smooth shifting though. Where I used to work we had sync 6&7 speed spicers in 5 tons. Tandems had 10&13 speeds. Tractors were 10, 13&18. Had to keep in mind what you were driving from shift to shift. Both work shift and transmission shift
How nice are these manual transmissions? What I mean is, some old simple transmissions shift like a piece of farm equipment, and do not feel like modern, "automotive-like" shifting. Are these Spicers more like shifting a F-350, or more like the sloppy, worn-out shifter of a some old John Deer tractor from the '50s?
Cool bus. Terrible transmission.
what a nice smooth looking bus, i used to drive a 1969 manual crown school bus 10 years ago for the San Bernadino unified schools in indio ca not sure if they still have them but fun ole times
They ran 40 year old busses?
You where driving kids to school in a 40 year old bus?
Might have been a spare bus. Seems smart to have a few if they can as long as they run well and are well maintained.
I too would like to know if they actually transported kids on 40 year old busses.
Is a nice test and nice bus, we love this cane buses because what we do is swap the engine 8.3 Cummins or 5.9 and run like champion, thanks for the video amigo!👌🏽👋
Come on get some
Wish my school buses were manual back when I was driving em
I wish they brought back that body style. Love the manuals. Those engines are now banned here in California.
The engines are banned or the transmission? There is a manual transmission not a manual engine. No such thing.
@@ChristinaHutton-c5t the engines are banned. The emissions are too dirty and California won’t let you renew registration. Thousand and thousand of good trucks made illegal.
dame uno bus
Hi guys, anyone how much this would go for?
En Colombia los international muy buenos con dt 360/466 .
42 school bus first day of school 2022
i now know what i wanna do lol
i love drving stick! im soo addicted!
Do u guys still have manual buses?
Teach this guy how to hold a stick shift ;- )
2000 huh
When I was in school 10 years ago I always thought they were 2005-07 models because they just look that new
They stopped making this model in 2002
@@seanthe100 well then I guess they were used old ones then
AirHorn!
This guy is everything but a smooth shifter
Nice bus!
Why am I watching a video of a man driving a school bus?
it does not make sense to have a manual in a school bus though
At one time the automatics weren't reliable & without electronic controls the shifting logic was terrible. Today driver "training & retention" would suffer (more than covid) if they had manuals.
@@willc5512 oh that makes sense
once upon a time an automatic was luxury, manual was the cheaper boring option.
school buses had these because public schools were cheap.
@@greego5952 yeah yeah i know
that's a very low dash
How they were in the day
184 to 210 thamas made
Can you do a Test Drive of an Automatic School Bus too? That would be Great. Although nobody knows how to drive a Stick then what is so fascinating about stick shifts? Like who wants to mess with a shifter? In my opinion I think automatics are just easier so you can focus on the road. Not many people can multi task and shift while watching the road.
You don't know how to drive manual that's the reason you say that lazy guy
All it takes is a litte practice. If you physically can't multitask enough to use a stick shift then you shouldn't be driving at all.
If there is anyone who cannot drive any large Commercial vehicle with a Manual Shift Transmission, then they have no business getting behind the wheel of these vehicles at all. All Large Commercial Vehicles, including School Buses should have Manual Transmissions, and Air Brakes, and this should be a Federal Mandate, there should never be any large Commercial Vehicles with Automatic Transmissions, or Hydraulic Brakes.
I like driving manuals. They are more fun and engaging for me. The automatic feels boring to drive. It’s like paying to win, smash the accelerator and the thing goes. Just feels cool to me to be in control of the beast.
@@callofdutyguy9 Hmmm Interesting
I drive a dump truck with a 6speed Eaton. Top speen 50. You're in 3rd gear before you even make it across an intersection
You dont know how to drive that 6 speed. You dont need the clutch to go up gears.