I wish I would of seen this before I made my garden. I made swells but they can’t collect water without rain. Irrigation will definitely be the first construction on my future farm! Thank you for more great advise! ❤️
Just watering the Grow-Bags each day is a lot of work lol I foolishing overplanted my grow-bags thinking that there would be more room for roots down there since they're air-pruning, but what I learned is that they need CONSTANT WATERING. Next year, all my grow-bags will be situated close to the house and not spread out all over the yard where I can't keep an eye on them. I need me one of them irrigation gadgets!!
Quite achievement to grow fruit trees in this sand. Once I observed water drops from willow bush. It was like rain is falling in sunny day. I found out that willows have deep roots to underground water, and some bugs damaged bark so sap was dripping to the ground. Some kind of natural irrigation.
It looks like you have two irrigation systems- one below ground and the second above. It would be great if did a video showing how the above ground system is set up, so you can irrigate and spray the whey from same system. Thanks Stefan.
How do you set up an irrigation system with dechlorinated water? I only ask because I garden organically and the chlorine and chloramine in the tap water will kill the beneficial microbes, mycorrhizae and overall soil biodiversity. I’m so tired of watering by hand even though I have a small garden.
Very good question! Chlorine is easy, it evaporates off quite quickly, Filling a screen topped IBC and letting the water stand for 48 hours before pumping it should remove all the chlorine (using an air pump and air stone to bubble air through wit hasten this procedure). Chloramine requires either boiling for 20 minutes, activated carbon filtering, or chemical additives (Sodium Metabisulphite) (1000 mg Vitamin C tablet per 35 to 50 gallons) but these can leave chlorine and ammonia in suspension...
@@trollforge I use a dechlorinator from microbe life to avoid doing all that. That’s what I’m trying actively to avoid. Is too much work. But I still water by hand. I also want to pass that water through a calcite reactor to get more alkalinity.
Run the water into a shallow pool so that UV light destabilise the chlorine ( one day), you can run it through a charcoal barrel filter to remove agro chemicals, and if you have grey water that needs cleaning pass the water through a reed bed.
When I started I didn't have the budget to put in automated watering system. I did have 5gal buckets. drill a pin hole about 2inches from the bottom. Put it a foot out from the base of the tree and let gravity do the work. Between that and microryza fungi transplant rate success is near 100%.
He covers the roots and leaves the tops in the sun. This dries all leaves off. Basically making a leafed out tree go dormant. He can then easily plant them without risk of drying out.
Here in the desert all leaves on transplanted trees get frizzled in the sun. My techniques so far is avoid any transplants during the 40 days around the summer solstice (la canicula). I cover the soil with some compost, then cover with cardboard and a thick layer of sawdust. I water thoroughly. If the tree can be covered with a wooden crate or bag, I cover it for half a week having removed 80 percent of the leaves. If the tree is too tall to shade, I remove many leaves, cut off the ends of the bottom leaves that I have left and leave the tips. It's really important that the soil is insulated against the heat. The other method I use for cuttings is to lay the branch at 5 degrees in the soil. The new shoots grow vertically and I select the strongest. I think it is a waste to use jute bags in the garden when cardboard will suffice.
Have you tried self watering for small gardens? They called wicked buckets and you can also use a raised bed by applying a non toxic tarp to trap the water. Have you hear about it or tried? What is your opinion about it. I’m trying it this year for the first time we will see how it goes
Great system for frost free areas. A lot of work in our climate as we would need to take up the pots every fall and replace every spring. We get -38c in cold winters, it shatters rocks to pieces.
@@StefanSobkowiak thank you so much for your reply. I live in MA, it gets cold here but not as cold as Canada. I’m trying the wicked raised beds for veggies that don’t comeback every year. Is convenient as my water source is far away from the garden. However, you are right. I heard they don’t recommended it for perennial plants as the water will freeze over the winter and kill the dormant plants. Is my first time trying this method and my tomatoes and peppers look very healthy right now. I wish I could use it for asparagus or other Perennial veggies, but the winter is unpredictable where I live. Some winters we will have snow storms every day. Others will be what they call the Indian-summer, where is mostly hot or fall feeling. You should try in the perennials and make a video about it. I would love to hear your opinion on it. I find you so knowledgeable and love your videos.
It’s whatever was there 40 years ago when the original orchard was established. Usually a good sod forming pasture mix adapted to your area works well, I would add some wildflower mix to it and extra legumes (clover, alfalfa and sweet clover).
@@StefanSobkowiak I'm thinking of running sheep, chickens and rabbits in my home garden orchard. Would it be beneficial to feed hay in the lane until the grass is established to promote beneficial grasses and legumes? I'm in the planning stage right now, thanks and love your videos!
Lovely part of the country and people. I had the privilege of working in coastal NC one fall. I always said if I had stayed 3 more months I would have never left.
Re japanese beetles. I am in Ontario we have been inundated by them. I don't know what they will do to your fruit's but their grubs destroy lawns and the beetles invade buildings and are very difficult to get rid of. I would do something now.
they did severe damage to my sweet cherry trees I planted this year (1st year orchard). some damage to peaches and vines as well. I was killing them for a couple of hours 4 days a week from mid June to Early August when I was at my farm. awful invasive bug. Traps helps but don't set them close to the trees you want to save otherwise many go to your trees. It was all out war on a a large farm ( I have 9 AC field of fruit) all my other operations i.e. planting got put on hold.
Maybe this is mentioned in a previous video, but I'm curious about your decision to plant cedar trees in an apple orchard. I assume your area has cedar apple rust - isn't this just one more thing to manage? (Our backyard orchard in central Ohio is surrounded by other folks' cedars, and I've started using Serenade in spring on susceptible trees to good effect.)
I have thought about it. I live off grid in a sophisticated community with all the utilities. But my watering depends on hauling buckets of water or collecting rain water. Well anyhow that not the story The story is sparse watering in May June and first 15 day of July my newly planted fig trees didnt grow at all ..from the time I bought them . No new leading. When the rains came in mid July and decent rains in August the fig tree took off . As though the rains were their on Fertilizer My pear trees are planted on a steep terraced bank and I allow the weeds that have a deep rooting , too feet about. To grow among the pear trees above ground the weeds grow 3 and 4 feet high protecting the natural moisture from evaporation and the soil can maintain dampness w/o watering for a rainless summer I could get electricity to power pumps 15 amps at 120 volt but how to filter the spring water just a matter of feet from the fig trees I holding me up. It seems the better option is to pot the fig trees near the electrical box which is 50 feet from city water connected to a rented fire hydrant water value used to wash trucks off as they leave the gravel yard of which I'm renting a plot . Address is 14505 lee hwy Gainesville Va USA. Water water everywhere a flooded pristine quarry on the property but ground hog problems down at the quarry. I will think about what you said . Maybe I will give your advise a second look
@@StefanSobkowiak gravel yard dust? I got plenty of that it washes down through the piles and settles in ruts it's fine as talcum powder or stratified in layer of different grades. Yea . I will sprinkle s o'l me of it on the soil maybe mix it in good . . Yea I will give it a try I thought the only way to get rock dust would be to order it from a mine out there in Utah or Wyoming
I planted about 2-3 acres of grape vines in about 2003. I was gone for a week. The Japanese beetles infested and ate every single leaf and completely wiped it out. I hate those things passionately.
1st year of Japanese Beetle.... you better freak out. one female apparently lays up to 40 eggs. They have no natural predator. you best by traps for next June.
@@Skashoon you're right about the traps, I just got more of them. This summer I didn't use traps and killed them just by pale of water with soap. Alot less damage. Hopefully the mothers didn't lay too many eggs. I couldn't find supplier of milky spore here in Canada. apparently you can't import it in from USA
From where you get your water for irrigation? I always thought permaculture is about working with the water that is in the nature (in the soil, in the air (like fog), from rains), capturing it in natural ways and using it.
This is a perfect example of why I don't like the term permaculture, and prefer the term natural living. There is nothing natural or sustainable about this sort of system, though I suppose it qualifies as permaculture. The only natural, and therefore moral, irrigation systems are swales and ditches, preferably sluiced.
Well I don’t know if irrigation is amoral but swales are great in the right situations. Our beach sand soil is certainly NOT that situation. Same for ditches. We can empty an 18foot pool in 15 minutes on 5m2 and not create a puddle.
@@StefanSobkowiak I understand your difficulties, but the solution lies in long term investment in soil building efforts. With all that grass, it wouldn't take more than a few years to create enough compost to change the carbon to silicon ratio of the soil. If you'd be willing to put in the work, a few years longer would allow you to build a full carbon layer several feet thick above the silicon substrate. This is what composting is for, when you get right down to it, and the easy way is usually the worst way. Having said that, your channel has improved greatly since you stopped playing those childish and deceptive clickbait title and wait-for-it games. I watch more of your videos now that you've stopped trying to be a game show host.
Permaculture is much more than gardening. Water in the ground is usually ethical as long as it isn't being contaminated with agro chemicals and toxic metals. It ends up as ground water. It's the water that is being evaporated that is unethical from air-conditioning units, sprinkler systems, bare earth, non shaded dams, flood irrigationed low unshaded crops during the day...this water vapour leaves your state and often ends up where there is excess water such as over the sea .
We’ve been soil building for almost 30 years. Amazing the change already from large areas of bare sand when we arrived. However hyper draining sand will not reach high levels of organic matter as you can get in clay or silty soils. If we could reach 3-4% organic matter that would be awesome. There is never enough compost to go around so we concentrate it in vegetable areas.
I am sure if we are talking about true Natural living, we won't find your comment here. Cellphone or laptops are not natural. Nor is the city water pumped right to your tap. We humans should walk every time to nearby lake, pond or river to drink water like all other animals. Irrigation done smartly and ethically is far better than waiting for 15-20 years for soil carbon to build up to hold water with swale and rain water.
You will freak out in few more years when they get there in swarms like they are here in ny. They bout wiped my harrelson trees right out. I just got them netted in time to save em. But they just Ate the leaves to Shit bigtime! Like over a week period. Wam! like locust You will see soon enough as the warmer weather gets yr way. They are bad!
Man i wished i lived next door to you . i love your videos
That roller crimper is perfect for making sacred geomantic maze-like crop circles!
Yes it is and much faster than a two rope and board technique that is usually used.
1980 irrigation system is still working. I am officially impressed.
They used better quality of plastic back then.
I water by hand. lol I love seeing everything everyday.
i have a sprinkler that works as easy as turning a knob but i prefer to handwater much of the season in my howeowner sized garden
I wish I would of seen this before I made my garden. I made swells but they can’t collect water without rain. Irrigation will definitely be the first construction on my future farm! Thank you for more great advise! ❤️
Thanks for sharing! Your videos are always full of info & so entertaining ☺️💚🙏
Thank you for sharing your hard won wisdom. Stay safe.😷🖐🏼
Always!
Great video! I'm so getting an arrigation system
Thanks at 7:40 I realized I left the hose pipe on the compost pile on it’s totally soaked that’s not good but now I won’t have a huge water bills
Just watering the Grow-Bags each day is a lot of work lol
I foolishing overplanted my grow-bags thinking that there would be more room for roots down there since they're air-pruning, but what I learned is that they need CONSTANT WATERING. Next year, all my grow-bags will be situated close to the house and not spread out all over the yard where I can't keep an eye on them. I need me one of them irrigation gadgets!!
One pipe and an emitter for each grow bag and a simple battery timer controller. Voilà daily watering automated, time to go on vacation.
@@StefanSobkowiak thanks Stefan! I'm going to try it out :D It's gonna be so much better
Quite achievement to grow fruit trees in this sand. Once I observed water drops from willow bush. It was like rain is falling in sunny day. I found out that willows have deep roots to underground water, and some bugs damaged bark so sap was dripping to the ground. Some kind of natural irrigation.
Can you make a video or two about your irrigation system and fertigation?
It looks like you have two irrigation systems- one below ground and the second above. It would be great if did a video showing how the above ground system is set up, so you can irrigate and spray the whey from same system. Thanks Stefan.
Brian that’s a great idea for a video ; comparing above ground and below ground irrigation main lines and how to use it for spraying. Thanks.
I would also love it if a video was created on this topic. Please 🙏
How do you set up an irrigation system with dechlorinated water? I only ask because I garden organically and the chlorine and chloramine in the tap water will kill the beneficial microbes, mycorrhizae and overall soil biodiversity. I’m so tired of watering by hand even though I have a small garden.
Very good question! Chlorine is easy, it evaporates off quite quickly, Filling a screen topped IBC and letting the water stand for 48 hours before pumping it should remove all the chlorine (using an air pump and air stone to bubble air through wit hasten this procedure). Chloramine requires either boiling for 20 minutes, activated carbon filtering, or chemical additives (Sodium Metabisulphite) (1000 mg Vitamin C tablet per 35 to 50 gallons) but these can leave chlorine and ammonia in suspension...
@@trollforge I use a dechlorinator from microbe life to avoid doing all that. That’s what I’m trying actively to avoid. Is too much work. But I still water by hand. I also want to pass that water through a calcite reactor to get more alkalinity.
Run the water into a shallow pool so that UV light destabilise the chlorine ( one day), you can run it through a charcoal barrel filter to remove agro chemicals, and if you have grey water that needs cleaning pass the water through a reed bed.
@@Exposetheluciferianagenda Breaking down the Chlorine - Ammonia bond leaves the water alkaline, that is why acids are the preferred reagent...
I’ve never seen a roller crimper. I wonder if they’re available in the US. I’ll check after this video. Thanks!
Yes they are
When I started I didn't have the budget to put in automated watering system. I did have 5gal buckets. drill a pin hole about 2inches from the bottom. Put it a foot out from the base of the tree and let gravity do the work. Between that and microryza fungi transplant rate success is near 100%.
What does Holzer do with the jute bags?
He covers the roots and leaves the tops in the sun. This dries all leaves off. Basically making a leafed out tree go dormant. He can then easily plant them without risk of drying out.
@@StefanSobkowiak Merci!
Here in the desert all leaves on transplanted trees get frizzled in the sun. My techniques so far is avoid any transplants during the 40 days around the summer solstice (la canicula). I cover the soil with some compost, then cover with cardboard and a thick layer of sawdust. I water thoroughly. If the tree can be covered with a wooden crate or bag, I cover it for half a week having removed 80 percent of the leaves. If the tree is too tall to shade, I remove many leaves, cut off the ends of the bottom leaves that I have left and leave the tips. It's really important that the soil is insulated against the heat. The other method I use for cuttings is to lay the branch at 5 degrees in the soil. The new shoots grow vertically and I select the strongest. I think it is a waste to use jute bags in the garden when cardboard will suffice.
That’s why it’s best to plant dormant trees (no leaves).
Have you seen the irrigation bowls? They cover the base of the tree so when it's hot it'll evaporate into the bowl to drop back to the ground
We have drip tape under the trees on an automated system. Easier than bowls.
Have you tried self watering for small gardens? They called wicked buckets and you can also use a raised bed by applying a non toxic tarp to trap the water. Have you hear about it or tried? What is your opinion about it. I’m trying it this year for the first time we will see how it goes
Great system for frost free areas. A lot of work in our climate as we would need to take up the pots every fall and replace every spring. We get -38c in cold winters, it shatters rocks to pieces.
@@StefanSobkowiak thank you so much for your reply. I live in MA, it gets cold here but not as cold as Canada. I’m trying the wicked raised beds for veggies that don’t comeback every year. Is convenient as my water source is far away from the garden. However, you are right. I heard they don’t recommended it for perennial plants as the water will freeze over the winter and kill the dormant plants. Is my first time trying this method and my tomatoes and peppers look very healthy right now. I wish I could use it for asparagus or other Perennial veggies, but the winter is unpredictable where I live. Some winters we will have snow storms every day. Others will be what they call the Indian-summer, where is mostly hot or fall feeling. You should try in the perennials and make a video about it. I would love to hear your opinion on it. I find you so knowledgeable and love your videos.
Sir, how many times and how much water should I give to small apple seedlings?
Till now just two apple leaves have appeared
As little as possible, even better if only rain.
Ok sir
what grass mix do you use in your orchard
It’s whatever was there 40 years ago when the original orchard was established. Usually a good sod forming pasture mix adapted to your area works well, I would add some wildflower mix to it and extra legumes (clover, alfalfa and sweet clover).
@@StefanSobkowiak I'm thinking of running sheep, chickens and rabbits in my home garden orchard. Would it be beneficial to feed hay in the lane until the grass is established to promote beneficial grasses and legumes? I'm in the planning stage right now, thanks and love your videos!
Is the roller crimped filled with water
No gym weights, should total 400 pounds.
I need to do that
Wow the apple trees look good,I Love apple, Where do you live?And what your name sir?
The farm is in SW Qc, I’m Stefan.
@@StefanSobkowiak In Canada then nice Stefan!! I live in south Carolina USA,Hope to meet you some day..
Lovely part of the country and people. I had the privilege of working in coastal NC one fall. I always said if I had stayed 3 more months I would have never left.
Re japanese beetles. I am in Ontario we have been inundated by them. I don't know what they will do to your fruit's but their grubs destroy lawns and the beetles invade buildings and are very difficult to get rid of. I would do something now.
they did severe damage to my sweet cherry trees I planted this year (1st year orchard). some damage to peaches and vines as well. I was killing them for a couple of hours 4 days a week from mid June to Early August when I was at my farm. awful invasive bug. Traps helps but don't set them close to the trees you want to save otherwise many go to your trees. It was all out war on a a large farm ( I have 9 AC field of fruit) all my other operations i.e. planting got put on hold.
Thanks good to know, they are just arriving in our regions. They are slow to get started here.
Milky spore
Maybe this is mentioned in a previous video, but I'm curious about your decision to plant cedar trees in an apple orchard. I assume your area has cedar apple rust - isn't this just one more thing to manage? (Our backyard orchard in central Ohio is surrounded by other folks' cedars, and I've started using Serenade in spring on susceptible trees to good effect.)
What we call cedar is eastern white cedar not eastern red cedar. Red cedar (a juniper) is a host to apple rust, ours is not.
Thank you Stefan ! . One question : where your irrigation water come from ? a deep drilling ground source with pump ? or 'house source' ?
A 5ha lake next door.
@@StefanSobkowiak thanks Stefan :) . ok you shouldn't miss water ^^
I have thought about it. I live off grid in a sophisticated community with all the utilities. But my watering depends on hauling buckets of water or collecting rain water.
Well anyhow that not the story
The story is sparse watering in May June and first 15 day of July my newly planted fig trees didnt grow at all ..from the time I bought them . No new leading. When the rains came in mid July and decent rains in August the fig tree took off . As though the rains were their on Fertilizer
My pear trees are planted on a steep terraced bank and I allow the weeds that have a deep rooting , too feet about. To grow among the pear trees above ground the weeds grow 3 and 4 feet high protecting the natural moisture from evaporation and the soil can maintain dampness w/o watering for a rainless summer
I could get electricity to power pumps 15 amps at 120 volt but how to filter the spring water just a matter of feet from the fig trees I holding me up.
It seems the better option is to pot the fig trees near the electrical box which is 50 feet from city water connected to a rented fire hydrant water value used to wash trucks off as they leave the gravel yard of which I'm renting a plot . Address is 14505 lee hwy Gainesville Va USA. Water water everywhere a flooded pristine quarry on the property but ground hog problems down at the quarry.
I will think about what you said . Maybe I will give your advise a second look
Gravel yard dust make a great fertilizer for plants, also known as Rock Dust. Amazing stuff for plant growth.
@@StefanSobkowiak gravel yard dust? I got plenty of that it washes down through the piles and settles in ruts it's fine as talcum powder or stratified in layer of different grades. Yea . I will sprinkle s o'l me of it on the soil maybe mix it in good . . Yea I will give it a try
I thought the only way to get rock dust would be to order it from a mine out there in Utah or Wyoming
I planted about 2-3 acres of grape vines in about 2003. I was gone for a week. The Japanese beetles infested and ate every single leaf and completely wiped it out. I hate those things passionately.
He seems to be ten years younger Sir when sped up to the 2x mark xD
1st year of Japanese Beetle.... you better freak out. one female apparently lays up to 40 eggs. They have no natural predator. you best by traps for next June.
Traps attract more. Best is milky spore treatment for the larval stage.
@@Skashoon you're right about the traps, I just got more of them. This summer I didn't use traps and killed them just by pale of water with soap. Alot less damage. Hopefully the mothers didn't lay too many eggs. I couldn't find supplier of milky spore here in Canada. apparently you can't import it in from USA
From where you get your water for irrigation? I always thought permaculture is about working with the water that is in the nature (in the soil, in the air (like fog), from rains), capturing it in natural ways and using it.
Permaculture does not mean rejecting good technology like drip irrigation, it does mean not wasting it.
Oups... And the video was over, right when Sep Holzers trick was about to be revealed... 😏😊
I guess you will have to get his book.
@@StefanSobkowiak 😁
Stay to Me
This is a perfect example of why I don't like the term permaculture, and prefer the term natural living. There is nothing natural or sustainable about this sort of system, though I suppose it qualifies as permaculture. The only natural, and therefore moral, irrigation systems are swales and ditches, preferably sluiced.
Well I don’t know if irrigation is amoral but swales are great in the right situations. Our beach sand soil is certainly NOT that situation. Same for ditches. We can empty an 18foot pool in 15 minutes on 5m2 and not create a puddle.
@@StefanSobkowiak I understand your difficulties, but the solution lies in long term investment in soil building efforts. With all that grass, it wouldn't take more than a few years to create enough compost to change the carbon to silicon ratio of the soil. If you'd be willing to put in the work, a few years longer would allow you to build a full carbon layer several feet thick above the silicon substrate. This is what composting is for, when you get right down to it, and the easy way is usually the worst way.
Having said that, your channel has improved greatly since you stopped playing those childish and deceptive clickbait title and wait-for-it games. I watch more of your videos now that you've stopped trying to be a game show host.
Permaculture is much more than gardening. Water in the ground is usually ethical as long as it isn't being contaminated with agro chemicals and toxic metals. It ends up as ground water. It's the water that is being evaporated that is unethical from air-conditioning units, sprinkler systems, bare earth, non shaded dams, flood irrigationed low unshaded crops during the day...this water vapour leaves your state and often ends up where there is excess water such as over the sea .
We’ve been soil building for almost 30 years. Amazing the change already from large areas of bare sand when we arrived. However hyper draining sand will not reach high levels of organic matter as you can get in clay or silty soils. If we could reach 3-4% organic matter that would be awesome. There is never enough compost to go around so we concentrate it in vegetable areas.
I am sure if we are talking about true Natural living, we won't find your comment here. Cellphone or laptops are not natural. Nor is the city water pumped right to your tap. We humans should walk every time to nearby lake, pond or river to drink water like all other animals.
Irrigation done smartly and ethically is far better than waiting for 15-20 years for soil carbon to build up to hold water with swale and rain water.
You will freak out in few more years when they get there in swarms like they are here in ny. They bout wiped my harrelson trees right out. I just got them netted in time to save em. But they just Ate the leaves to Shit bigtime! Like over a week period. Wam! like locust You will see soon enough as the warmer weather gets yr way. They are bad!
We shall see.