I'm still glad that Guilmero Del Toro is still making films to this day. He's a great visualist and storyteller who is so detailed in his filmmaking and production.
@Edwin I didn't take it that way at all. Tarot cards can be forced, just like any other deck of cards. They also have many different meanings to make it easier for the victim to be fooled. It also could have justl been a coincidence.
this is the second time marketing misrepresents Gillermo's vision, the last time they did this was with Crimson Peak, marketing had it look like it was going to be a horror film but Guillermo always said it was a gothic romance, apparently marketing has no idea what to do with these kind of films and they want to put them in a box they dont really fit in
tbf, marketing has a mandate to ... market, ensure as big of a net is cast to boost sales, if sales go down or are tepid, it's their asses on the line. I'm not justifying their actions, but I can definitely see why it's rational for them to "misrepresent" films if it gets their quotas fulfilled.
I felt Crimson Peaks marketing did a better job then Nightmare Alley. I've seen multiple trailers for Nightmare Alley and I still had no idea what the movie was even about .
@@averagejoeoftheundead3903 to be fair though, shouldnt that be what we want with a trailer? I too had no clue what this was about based on the trailer and watching this review I can see its not for me but I gotta say having a trailer not give me the entire plot of the movie and leave me intrigued is kind of refreshing
@@averagejoeoftheundead3903 it’s about human is part evil & a part of sacred; we are blind if living in our conditioned unconscious programs: once a geek always a geek, and our programs runs our fate! It’s karma. Profound profound profound
I hadn’t seen a single trailer and walked into this movie blind and was completely blown away. I was completely immersed from beginning to end and holy shit it was intense. Probably the best movie I’ve seen this year and Cate Blanchett and Bradley Cooper need Oscar nominations.
It's a real shame this movie isn't doing better at the box office, should've come out on streaming (Netflix most likely) so more people would've watched it.
Yeah I was just thinking about that. It's not good practice to tell your fans that it's a good movie (but don't go see it in the theaters) if u don't go to the theaters these good movies won't get made. And I am a person that doesn't go to the movies like that.
@@DurpyKraken I still love the MCU. I'm not one of those anti-superhero movie people. There's room for all of it. But the Disney Monopoly blatantly trying to kill these Fox movies is disgusting
The way this movie was marketed is going to cause some dissapointmrnt and that is not the fault of the film or the filmmakers. It was the fault of the marketing team. I was incredibly happy with this movie. Those judging it based on the trailer are doing a disservice to the film. Or judging it based on what kinds of movies Del Torro has done in the past does a disservice to the film.
It's a noir film set in reality with no supernatural elements, so definitely don't expect that and you won't be disappointed. If you go in expecting a noir thriller/mystery you will walk out satisfied.
I was expecting more of the supernatural and horror stuff that Joe was expecting too, so I was a little let down by it, but it ended up being a decent film. But like Joe mentions, and I agree with him, some people are probably going to be pissed that they didn’t get what they were expecting.
@@sdaftermath123 to be fair the trailers gave no indication that this was going to be a supernatural film so no one can say the film studio pulled a bait and switch.
The beginning of the film was kind of shaky for me, but by the end I was totally into it. It’s the kind of film that actually gets better and better as it goes.
I was actually impressed by the trailers for this movie because they intrigued me without giving the entire damn plot away. Wouldn’t be surprised if GDT supervised the trailer editing to make sure his story would be intact for the theaters.
I saw the ending a little different, he knew he was going to get the geek offer. Even the chain around the neck of the Carnie was similar the Police officer from the beginning. He was beginning to manipulate again and starting at a place he knows. Loved all the visuals, set pieces and all of the actors. Great movie.
Just saw the black-and-white version in theaters: Nightmare Alley: Vision In Darkness And Light. And I gotta say, much better in black-and-white. I mean, it was already good, but the black-and-white sent it over the edge, so great.
Guillermo Del Toro is one of the old guard of filmmakers that has one leg in the past and one leg into the future. Especially with his involvement with Death Stranding(video game) and with the elements of slow pacing(tho it does drag on from time to time in this film). Do I think that it is worth seeing in theaters?(I agree with Joe on just waiting until it comes out on streaming service or home media)
I watch Guillermo Del Toro films in theaters out of principle. The directing, set pieces, and cinematography in those movies make the ticket worth it, regardless of the story.
I agree with OJ that Stan beginning to drink was all on the Psychologist. His claim that drinking would mess with his act could be seen as an excuse, but there’s still truth to that. With his over confidence and senses blurred by liquor, he failed to see the warning signs that lead to him being shot. There’s also the idea that while using him, she never intended to backstab him. That is until his words, with her assistance, had lead to the death of the Judge and his wife.
Love your movie reviews Joe. Whenever a new release comes out I always look for your reviews to help me decide if i should see. Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all.
I absolutely LOVED it and for me it didn't drag at all, I didn't even notice it was more than 2 hours!! It was a true Del Toro sumptuous feast with style dripping off the screen!!!
"Unless you really love mysteries and thrillers..." Let me quote Joe here to give this a word or two in that light--that dark light of noir. It means you already know the Tyrone Power classic and how, despite the then obigatory in Hollywood "Happy Ending" never more so tacked on or futile than in the case of Stan's "redemptive" reunion with Molly--it is otherwise known as one of the darkest Hollywood movies ever made. It is, and is based upon a brutal, heavily-freudian infused narrative of an unrelenting reduction of a novel by a brilliant, hard fellow named Gresham. This movie pleased me about as much as I could have hoped--given the classic, brutal and yet psychologically complex nature of the piece. I like the way Joe gets the punch of that last line--it is the very one Gresham works toward inexorably in just a way as that some may wonder is it too punctual an end. I agree with Joe that the movie works it brilliantly here--and that last line is prevented from being an all time movie classic like "rosebud" only by it being almost too perfectly so. Cooper was important to me there--and once again, just like one American Sniper of an actor--he saved my bacon again. Sold it to me. Again. Really appreciate that. As the guys pointed out, the cast members are throughout the ranks are all very well chosen. And if Willem Defoe's part is brief it is pointed proof again of all that we rightly love him for being as an actor. The lead women in this are both powerhouses in their own way--the key role of the doctor is particulary well acted and envisioned in the rendition--a third take on her,( novel and movie and now remake) I think--and proof that she is of enduring interest as a new kind of noir-modern character, depth-wise. For a fan of this material, who, knowing so much of the drama would be interior--deeply psychological and suggestive--this movie never really lagged. I'm generally a harsh critic on the too long moments of even good movies, and without swearing its perfect (like the original film) I can say that this story always tended to move for me to just the right thing--after it had stayed for a little more of the right thing in that overtly slower but truly deeper, dramatic fashion with actors galore to populate those spaces. I knew going in for this movie to be right, it did not to be brutally "straight." (Not magic or wonder or enchantment but the plainest kind we all purchase) But it being Del Torro, I might have wanted one or two more suggestive bends--the illusion gone topsy-turvy a bit--particularly in the key "ghost appearance" scene, when Molly does wrong against her good soul one more time for Stan. I had always thought that in the old movie, this was the one scene they didn't quite have the effects to pull off, and here is where I might have wished that Del Torro had had them create something more elaborate here, and thus use it as a moment to impress us with directorial restraint by otherwise allowing the moment to blur the line finally, between reality and a possibility of "more" "supernatural" "God" "Providence" etc this piece is known to always frustratingly flirt with but never quite say. So like life, this way, say some like me who revere this dark material. The man who believes his lies, the grifter who "sells out" in this one cardinal way, is the same damned soul he always was, then. So close to a real rube, a real "mark" as they say--and as that scene where Pete reads the watch foreshadows--. It sets him up to be had. By better, bigger, more viscous at his own game. So, love this movie. Love Joe and the guys for being cool and take the time to dig it. Their review is probably one to go by if you're a more general audience--which is still pretty rare and pretty good--some "slow" "heavy" and yes--very dark--drama--during this holiday time that othewise does work well enough to offer some potential cinematic "counterpoint" to those seeking something past the popcorn fun (we all revere the most) or usual holiday light drama. I would say I completely agree with this analysis, then, For fans with more age or experience or both, this movie asserts itself as a credible remake of already great material, touches all of the right themes all of the time, that is also unique enough a work in its own right to cause some quibling or contention about certain of del Torro's generally (for me) insightful choices, certain emphasis of certain angles on certain themes twisting throughout the deliciously simmering cauldron of human desire and fear in the more "modern" world--which is well hot enough for me somewhere before that exquisitely short, unbelabored, third act (where it mattered most). I just happened to see the movies hours before this, and what can I say but what I say whenever this happens: sorry so long. If anyone reads it all--thanks. Otherwise, yeah--Nightmare Alley--some people do need a little slow-burn dark heat like this can of Sterno here right now, too.
Lovd the AJS show, but would really appreciate some kind of plot synopsis or summary in future reviews. Was listening to the spoiler-free review and I thought to myself- "uhhhh I have no idea what this movie is about".
Just saw it and I would give it a 9 simply because how much it stuck with me and that’s usually how I rate movies, that and what I would change. Definitely a slow burn, but intrigued from beginning to end. And the acting, set pieces, cinematography, all are 10/10. Easily the best role I’ve ever seen Bradley Cooper perform.
Morons are comparing it to Spiderman, telling people to watch this if you like carnies? The movie is a masterpiece, just the cold reads are worth the lenght.
People are really crying about the length? Lmao people can binge a 16 episode season in 2 days no problem but have problems with a 2 hour plus film lmao
This is a REMAKE of a Noir film from the 50s. The lack of monsters arent surprising. Im SUPER excited to see this as a huge fan of traditional Noir films.
I wish they had advertised better. I barley saw a TV spot ad that just flashed a few images and Hollywood names. Thanks for the review, i'm gonna check it out, sounds very "Noir".
I was surprised at the run time. I thought it was maybe a two hour movie so I thought the pacing of it was good. There aren't any missing parts to the movie and I even wanted a bit more detail to the story. Longer movie run times I think justify themselves when they put you in that world - I love the atmosphere this movie set and I recommend going to theatre to see this.
This COULD have been a masterpiece but Toro made the mistake that too many modern directors make -- he fell in love with every frame he shot. So he spent so much time on developing every scene that it too often dragged -- meanwhile, he lost the focus of the story. The love relationship was sudden and undeveloped. The arrangement with the shrink was vague. And his dissent into alcoholism was too abrupt. (The last 10 minutes of the film). Yet the movie was THREE HOURS LONG!!! It literally could have been cut in half. I would have loved to do a rewrite and an edit. It would have been so much better because it's a great story with great performances and the look was magnificent. It just got too caught up in its own cleverness and wound up missing the point of the plot.
I haven't seen anyone mention the psychiatrist's connection with her mother and suicide - When Stan first reads her in front of the crowd, he mentioned her flirtation with suicide as one reason for the gun. The way she says 'I'll live' after being choked was almost disdainful, which made me think that was also potentially part of her plan. That's why she was so disappointed with Stan, because she wanted to bring the geek out of him and flirt with real life or death consequences again - and living was almost a disappointment after that. If everyone is secretly desperate to show the world who they really are - she should be a victim (she hides her abuse and scar and projects a powerful woman) and Stan is a monster hiding behind a facade of ultimate control. Her scheme could have put two truths to the light in one move.
Liked that in the first therapy session the therapist, tells bradley cooper’s character. You used to stutter a lot huh? And he stutters at the end when talking to the carny leader
I love these. Most of the times its a movie review ill wait to watch until i watch the movie myself. Then kind of compare my critique to the AngryJoe show.. But this one is absolutely one i want to hear the review before i watch it. Thank you gentlemen
I was lucky in that I missed this movies first theatrical run and then saw it for the first time at the brief black-and-white noir release in January. I loveddddd it, seeing it in black and white gained it a few points from me
I would be interested to see if Guillermo Del Toro and Christopher Nolan team up and make sequel to inception🤯🤯. Definitely be the best movie ever made in Hollywood industry.
Looking at the view count you can tell this movie wasnt widely viewed and its a shame because ive seen just about every release in the past 6+ months and this and spiderman were the only memorable movies for me.
I enjoy you all talking about Spider-Man/Marvel films being a "fast" 2.5 hours because it's the complete opposite for me. I'm usually checked out 10 minutes into the inevitable opening fight sequence and the films feel like they're 10 hours to me after that. lol
I just watched it a week or two ago. I, too, thought that it would be a supernatural horror film based on the trailer. I had to check the summary to realize that this was a noir film.
I think the psychiatrist woman actually did have feelings for him and the bag of money was actually just a test to see what he'd do. She shouted she loved him as he was leaving and If you pay attention you can tell shes very emotional the whole scene, her eyes are watering like shes ready to cry, she makes a point to say "no you're right, it wasn't about the money. But for you it clearly was." . I think the idea was to see what he'd do and when she realized he was just going to take off with the money and leave her high and dry like she meant nothing to him, then she initiated her plan of revenge.
she didn't, it's obvious in the last scene she held a huge grudge against him for what he said to her on his show, she kept repeating to him what he said as he shot him in the ear, she was just crazy and wanted revenge
nah cate Blanchetr character didn't know the rich guy was hurting women, I think it is unrelated, since he says right before his confession that he never told it to anyone, so I guessed it was just one way to show how bradly coopers actions fucked up his victims life (it was right after the couple murder suicide scene)
Really wish Joe would expand his vocabulary. As a critic, you need to be able to express your thoughts/opinions more clearly out of respect for your audience AND the filmmakers especially if you’re not recommending folks buy a ticket to see it in the theater. When you have all these subscribers, you are an influencer. Influence is power! And with power comes …
@ 7:20, Woah, woah, woah! Don't be tellin' people not to go see this in theaters. What the hell. You gave this movie an 8, and then tell people to wait for it to come to streaming⁉ Most definitely 100% do go see this in theaters. We need movies like this. These are the kinda movies studios are afraid to put out BECAUSE people won't go see it in theaters. Go see this movie in theaters twice! Once in color, and once in black-and-white.
I'm late to the party just. saw it on hbo max, i thought this movie 9/10 and so refreshing to watch something different. Felt like the twilight zone the ending you can see from a mile away but its the how that is most important. The movie starts off with him killing someone so right off. the bat you can't trust him or that he has a secret. It was alittle slow but it was tense through and through. I want to show this film to family but it is so dark and graphic in the beginning.
Every time I feel asleep in this film, I’d wake up and there’d be less people in the theater than before. By the end of the movie, I was the only one left
That is one of the greatest films I have seen in a while it was slower paced which I like it reminded me a lot in the pacing of like the green knight and seven which are both two of my favorite films of all time
I disagree that the trailer was misleading. The second trailer gave just enough for me to get excited and set my expectations, and ultimately, it delivered. It was a pleasant surprise.
Personally I didn’t see the trailer and I super loved this movie. To me it was perfect. Don’t watch the trailer and go in blind and then you might love it.
It's about a 6/10...Stylish but slow, Nightmare Alley pays off with a powerful ending -- if you can hang in long enough to make it, that is.....the 1947 version is better.
A lot of talent all around on this movie but none of it was utilized right. I felt the story was so plain and simple with some touches of hidden detail. No justifying that run time tho..
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I'm still glad that Guilmero Del Toro is still making films to this day. He's a great visualist and storyteller who is so detailed in his filmmaking and production.
I fk "Toro" this movie
He'd make a great Disney Atlantis live action film
He's a shabby director. Needs to direct his beard
This movie didn't feel long at all. It went by really fast and I was mesmerized watching each scene.
Jesus you must be a very visual movie goer if this didn't feel long to you.
@@jessebrown1996 not at all. It was amazing. Just got nominated for multiple academy awards.
They don’t know what they’re talking about bruh
Yup, didn't feel long at all
@Edwin I didn't take it that way at all. Tarot cards can be forced, just like any other deck of cards. They also have many different meanings to make it easier for the victim to be fooled. It also could have justl been a coincidence.
this is the second time marketing misrepresents Gillermo's vision, the last time they did this was with Crimson Peak, marketing had it look like it was going to be a horror film but Guillermo always said it was a gothic romance, apparently marketing has no idea what to do with these kind of films and they want to put them in a box they dont really fit in
tbf, marketing has a mandate to ... market, ensure as big of a net is cast to boost sales, if sales go down or are tepid, it's their asses on the line. I'm not justifying their actions, but I can definitely see why it's rational for them to "misrepresent" films if it gets their quotas fulfilled.
I felt Crimson Peaks marketing did a better job then Nightmare Alley. I've seen multiple trailers for Nightmare Alley and I still had no idea what the movie was even about .
@@averagejoeoftheundead3903 to be fair though, shouldnt that be what we want with a trailer? I too had no clue what this was about based on the trailer and watching this review I can see its not for me but I gotta say having a trailer not give me the entire plot of the movie and leave me intrigued is kind of refreshing
Crimson Peak is seriously next level garbage 🗑 so terrible
@@averagejoeoftheundead3903 it’s about human is part evil & a part of sacred; we are blind if living in our conditioned unconscious programs: once a geek always a geek, and our programs runs our fate! It’s karma. Profound profound profound
I hadn’t seen a single trailer and walked into this movie blind and was completely blown away. I was completely immersed from beginning to end and holy shit it was intense. Probably the best movie I’ve seen this year and Cate Blanchett and Bradley Cooper need Oscar nominations.
What category would you list the movie in?
that is actually how I plan to watch it :) with no previous knowladge
@@blond_slut Bradley in best lead actor, Cate in best supporting actress
@@ivanangeli do it!! Aaaahhh such a good movie
It's a real shame this movie isn't doing better at the box office, should've come out on streaming (Netflix most likely) so more people would've watched it.
Good movies like this only get made if they get supported. Please see it in the theater, don’t wait for VOD.
Disney dropping this on Spiderman no way home week is an actual war crime. They're trying to kill it.
Yeah I was just thinking about that. It's not good practice to tell your fans that it's a good movie (but don't go see it in the theaters) if u don't go to the theaters these good movies won't get made. And I am a person that doesn't go to the movies like that.
@@noaheast7600 I’d personally rather see a new and creative movie than another fucking superhero movie. I love the MCU but it’s getting old for me
@@DurpyKraken I still love the MCU. I'm not one of those anti-superhero movie people. There's room for all of it. But the Disney Monopoly blatantly trying to kill these Fox movies is disgusting
@@DurpyKraken hey man you do u. I support both superhero movies and movies like this, drive my car, tick tick boom, and spencer.. dont hate my dude.
The way this movie was marketed is going to cause some dissapointmrnt and that is not the fault of the film or the filmmakers. It was the fault of the marketing team. I was incredibly happy with this movie. Those judging it based on the trailer are doing a disservice to the film. Or judging it based on what kinds of movies Del Torro has done in the past does a disservice to the film.
It's a noir film set in reality with no supernatural elements, so definitely don't expect that and you won't be disappointed. If you go in expecting a noir thriller/mystery you will walk out satisfied.
I was expecting more of the supernatural and horror stuff that Joe was expecting too, so I was a little let down by it, but it ended up being a decent film. But like Joe mentions, and I agree with him, some people are probably going to be pissed that they didn’t get what they were expecting.
@@sdaftermath123 to be fair the trailers gave no indication that this was going to be a supernatural film so no one can say the film studio pulled a bait and switch.
@@FavianTubeX well me and joe got that impression from the trailers, so there was plenty of indication that the supernatural was involved
I went in hoping it would be better than the original and was thoroughly disappointed.
The beginning of the film was kind of shaky for me, but by the end I was totally into it. It’s the kind of film that actually gets better and better as it goes.
Complete opposite for me, movie started off good and then just went more and more downhill.
Although maybe that's cause I've watched the original and the changes made the film feel pretentious.
the movie really starts for me at the halfway point, forsho 💯
I kept turning it off, but glad i came back. It gets good I'm the 2nd act
I was actually impressed by the trailers for this movie because they intrigued me without giving the entire damn plot away. Wouldn’t be surprised if GDT supervised the trailer editing to make sure his story would be intact for the theaters.
AGREED!!!!
Man I loved this dark story. Everything was amazing. The ending was awesomely depressing as well. Made me feel some old Shawshank vibes.
I saw the ending a little different, he knew he was going to get the geek offer. Even the chain around the neck of the Carnie was similar the Police officer from the beginning. He was beginning to manipulate again and starting at a place he knows. Loved all the visuals, set pieces and all of the actors. Great movie.
Just saw the black-and-white version in theaters: Nightmare Alley: Vision In Darkness And Light. And I gotta say, much better in black-and-white. I mean, it was already good, but the black-and-white sent it over the edge, so great.
Sounds pretentious
@@psychobillynumbnuts1 Go see for yourself..
Guillermo Del Toro is one of the old guard of filmmakers that has one leg in the past and one leg into the future. Especially with his involvement with Death Stranding(video game) and with the elements of slow pacing(tho it does drag on from time to time in this film).
Do I think that it is worth seeing in theaters?(I agree with Joe on just waiting until it comes out on streaming service or home media)
I watch Guillermo Del Toro films in theaters out of principle. The directing, set pieces, and cinematography in those movies make the ticket worth it, regardless of the story.
True true
SO true!!!! I went to see it at the Dolby cinema to give it its just deserts... it didn't drag nor feel long at all to me!!!
im always in the mood for a slow burner, there arent enough of those nowadays
In the era of constant superhero movies a slow burn film is a very welcome change of pace.
I agree with OJ that Stan beginning to drink was all on the Psychologist. His claim that drinking would mess with his act could be seen as an excuse, but there’s still truth to that. With his over confidence and senses blurred by liquor, he failed to see the warning signs that lead to him being shot. There’s also the idea that while using him, she never intended to backstab him. That is until his words, with her assistance, had lead to the death of the Judge and his wife.
Love your movie reviews Joe. Whenever a new release comes out I always look for your reviews to help me decide if i should see. Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all.
I absolutely LOVED it and for me it didn't drag at all, I didn't even notice it was more than 2 hours!! It was a true Del Toro sumptuous feast with style dripping off the screen!!!
aesthetically I am getting bioshock vibes, please make a biohock movie someone!!!!
The atmosphere and production design of new York reminded me of BioShock
❤️ *Guillermo Del Toro movies and can’t wait to watch this one soon.*
*Also great review AJ and crew happy holidays.*
Definitely going to watch this one because it’s by GDT
"Unless you really love mysteries and thrillers..." Let me quote Joe here to give this a word or two in that light--that dark light of noir. It means you already know the Tyrone Power classic and how, despite the then obigatory in Hollywood "Happy Ending" never more so tacked on or futile than in the case of Stan's "redemptive" reunion with Molly--it is otherwise known as one of the darkest Hollywood movies ever made. It is, and is based upon a brutal, heavily-freudian infused narrative of an unrelenting reduction of a novel by a brilliant, hard fellow named Gresham.
This movie pleased me about as much as I could have hoped--given the classic, brutal and yet psychologically complex nature of the piece. I like the way Joe gets the punch of that last line--it is the very one Gresham works toward inexorably in just a way as that some may wonder is it too punctual an end. I agree with Joe that the movie works it brilliantly here--and that last line is prevented from being an all time movie classic like "rosebud" only by it being almost too perfectly so. Cooper was important to me there--and once again, just like one American Sniper of an actor--he saved my bacon again. Sold it to me. Again. Really appreciate that.
As the guys pointed out, the cast members are throughout the ranks are all very well chosen. And if Willem Defoe's part is brief it is pointed proof again of all that we rightly love him for being as an actor. The lead women in this are both powerhouses in their own way--the key role of the doctor is particulary well acted and envisioned in the rendition--a third take on her,( novel and movie and now remake) I think--and proof that she is of enduring interest as a new kind of noir-modern character, depth-wise.
For a fan of this material, who, knowing so much of the drama would be interior--deeply psychological and suggestive--this movie never really lagged. I'm generally a harsh critic on the too long moments of even good movies, and without swearing its perfect (like the original film) I can say that this story always tended to move for me to just the right thing--after it had stayed for a little more of the right thing in that overtly slower but truly deeper, dramatic fashion with actors galore to populate those spaces.
I knew going in for this movie to be right, it did not to be brutally "straight." (Not magic or wonder or enchantment but the plainest kind we all purchase) But it being Del Torro, I might have wanted one or two more suggestive bends--the illusion gone topsy-turvy a bit--particularly in the key "ghost appearance" scene, when Molly does wrong against her good soul one more time for Stan. I had always thought that in the old movie, this was the one scene they didn't quite have the effects to pull off, and here is where I might have wished that Del Torro had had them create something more elaborate here, and thus use it as a moment to impress us with directorial restraint by otherwise allowing the moment to blur the line finally, between reality and a possibility of "more" "supernatural" "God" "Providence" etc this piece is known to always frustratingly flirt with but never quite say.
So like life, this way, say some like me who revere this dark material. The man who believes his lies, the grifter who "sells out" in this one cardinal way, is the same damned soul he always was, then. So close to a real rube, a real "mark" as they say--and as that scene where Pete reads the watch foreshadows--. It sets him up to be had. By better, bigger, more viscous at his own game.
So, love this movie. Love Joe and the guys for being cool and take the time to dig it. Their review is probably one to go by if you're a more general audience--which is still pretty rare and pretty good--some "slow" "heavy" and yes--very dark--drama--during this holiday time that othewise does work well enough to offer some potential cinematic "counterpoint" to those seeking something past the popcorn fun (we all revere the most) or usual holiday light drama. I would say I completely agree with this analysis, then,
For fans with more age or experience or both, this movie asserts itself as a credible remake of already great material, touches all of the right themes all of the time, that is also unique enough a work in its own right to cause some quibling or contention about certain of del Torro's generally (for me) insightful choices, certain emphasis of certain angles on certain themes twisting throughout the deliciously simmering cauldron of human desire and fear in the more "modern" world--which is well hot enough for me somewhere before that exquisitely short, unbelabored, third act (where it mattered most).
I just happened to see the movies hours before this, and what can I say but what I say whenever this happens: sorry so long. If anyone reads it all--thanks. Otherwise, yeah--Nightmare Alley--some people do need a little slow-burn dark heat like this can of Sterno here right now, too.
Dude why don’t you make your own review channel? You got what it takes
Lovd the AJS show, but would really appreciate some kind of plot synopsis or summary in future reviews. Was listening to the spoiler-free review and I thought to myself- "uhhhh I have no idea what this movie is about".
I just saw the movie. Felt like a 2-hour long episode of tales from the crypt. Which is a really really good thing. Well acted.
Perfect description for this. It’s very tales from the crypt, especially the way it ends.
Just saw it and I would give it a 9 simply because how much it stuck with me and that’s usually how I rate movies, that and what I would change. Definitely a slow burn, but intrigued from beginning to end. And the acting, set pieces, cinematography, all are 10/10. Easily the best role I’ve ever seen Bradley Cooper perform.
Morons are comparing it to Spiderman, telling people to watch this if you like carnies? The movie is a masterpiece, just the cold reads are worth the lenght.
The 1947 movie is better because it keeps the story tighter at only 1 hour 47 minutes
Still have to watch it on criterion.
People are really crying about the length? Lmao people can binge a 16 episode season in 2 days no problem but have problems with a 2 hour plus film lmao
If I hadn't read up on what the movie was about before I saw it I would've been disappointed... But it was a good film and cinematically gorgeous.
This is a REMAKE of a Noir film from the 50s. The lack of monsters arent surprising. Im SUPER excited to see this as a huge fan of traditional Noir films.
I wish they had advertised better. I barley saw a TV spot ad that just flashed a few images and Hollywood names. Thanks for the review, i'm gonna check it out, sounds very "Noir".
I'll give Nightmare Alley a 9/10. It's up there with Licorice Pizza and Drive My Car for Oscar contention.
I was surprised at the run time. I thought it was maybe a two hour movie so I thought the pacing of it was good. There aren't any missing parts to the movie and I even wanted a bit more detail to the story. Longer movie run times I think justify themselves when they put you in that world - I love the atmosphere this movie set and I recommend going to theatre to see this.
I can’t wait to see this movie!!!
Same here
Loved the foreshadowing of the chickens on the train car he was sleeping in.
This COULD have been a masterpiece but Toro made the mistake that too many modern directors make -- he fell in love with every frame he shot. So he spent so much time on developing every scene that it too often dragged -- meanwhile, he lost the focus of the story. The love relationship was sudden and undeveloped. The arrangement with the shrink was vague. And his dissent into alcoholism was too abrupt. (The last 10 minutes of the film). Yet the movie was THREE HOURS LONG!!! It literally could have been cut in half. I would have loved to do a rewrite and an edit. It would have been so much better because it's a great story with great performances and the look was magnificent. It just got too caught up in its own cleverness and wound up missing the point of the plot.
This movie is amazing in black and white. More of an experience
This was my favorite movie of the year.
You must lead a very boring life
Joe is calling Willem Dafoe "William" again. Please correct him.
I absolutely loved this movie. Slow but it has a great payoff.
I haven't seen anyone mention the psychiatrist's connection with her mother and suicide - When Stan first reads her in front of the crowd, he mentioned her flirtation with suicide as one reason for the gun. The way she says 'I'll live' after being choked was almost disdainful, which made me think that was also potentially part of her plan. That's why she was so disappointed with Stan, because she wanted to bring the geek out of him and flirt with real life or death consequences again - and living was almost a disappointment after that. If everyone is secretly desperate to show the world who they really are - she should be a victim (she hides her abuse and scar and projects a powerful woman) and Stan is a monster hiding behind a facade of ultimate control. Her scheme could have put two truths to the light in one move.
Loved the overall style of it, but the movie itself left a lot to be desired for me.
It's visually so good, you gotta see it in theaters.
Liked that in the first therapy session the therapist, tells bradley cooper’s character. You used to stutter a lot huh? And he stutters at the end when talking to the carny leader
You guys summed it up perfectly in the first minute, the film was not what I was expecting it to be. Still solid though
I feel like films like this don't get made exactly because people don't support it at cinemas
Because all people want to see now are superhero movies, or movies where you dont have to use ur brain for 1 second over the course of 2 hours.
I love these. Most of the times its a movie review ill wait to watch until i watch the movie myself. Then kind of compare my critique to the AngryJoe show.. But this one is absolutely one i want to hear the review before i watch it. Thank you gentlemen
The fact that this guy is obsessed with Lovecraft and this movie has no supernatural stuff in it dissapointed me dramatically...
Yeah if you are doing lovecraft, you HAVE to have supernatural and reality breaking stuff!
It’s based on a novel, so he didn’t have as much leeway as usual.
I was lucky in that I missed this movies first theatrical run and then saw it for the first time at the brief black-and-white noir release in January. I loveddddd it, seeing it in black and white gained it a few points from me
This movie was really good
I would be interested to see if Guillermo Del Toro and Christopher Nolan team up and make sequel to inception🤯🤯. Definitely be the best movie ever made in Hollywood industry.
yet Guilmero said he was going to work on a live tv project called: THE INCREDIBLE HULK but yay nightmare alley🤦♂️
Did not feel like 2.5 hours at all. Really enjoyed the film.
Looking at the view count you can tell this movie wasnt widely viewed and its a shame because ive seen just about every release in the past 6+ months and this and spiderman were the only memorable movies for me.
the spoiler part is like the after party, chiller vibes but still litttt
I enjoy you all talking about Spider-Man/Marvel films being a "fast" 2.5 hours because it's the complete opposite for me. I'm usually checked out 10 minutes into the inevitable opening fight sequence and the films feel like they're 10 hours to me after that. lol
What was AJ talking about Guillermo del Toro & pacific rim
It's basically just the movie Freaks with John Edwards as the main character...it was very predictable but amazingly well shot and directed.
I just watched it a week or two ago. I, too, thought that it would be a supernatural horror film based on the trailer. I had to check the summary to realize that this was a noir film.
I think the psychiatrist woman actually did have feelings for him and the bag of money was actually just a test to see what he'd do. She shouted she loved him as he was leaving and If you pay attention you can tell shes very emotional the whole scene, her eyes are watering like shes ready to cry, she makes a point to say "no you're right, it wasn't about the money. But for you it clearly was." . I think the idea was to see what he'd do and when she realized he was just going to take off with the money and leave her high and dry like she meant nothing to him, then she initiated her plan of revenge.
she didn't, it's obvious in the last scene she held a huge grudge against him for what he said to her on his show, she kept repeating to him what he said as he shot him in the ear, she was just crazy and wanted revenge
Fantastic movie. Just finished it today
nah cate Blanchetr character didn't know the rich guy was hurting women, I think it is unrelated, since he says right before his confession that he never told it to anyone, so I guessed it was just one way to show how bradly coopers actions fucked up his victims life (it was right after the couple murder suicide scene)
Really wish Joe would expand his vocabulary. As a critic, you need to be able to express your thoughts/opinions more clearly out of respect for your audience AND the filmmakers especially if you’re not recommending folks buy a ticket to see it in the theater. When you have all these subscribers, you are an influencer. Influence is power! And with power comes …
@ 7:20, Woah, woah, woah! Don't be tellin' people not to go see this in theaters. What the hell. You gave this movie an 8, and then tell people to wait for it to come to streaming⁉ Most definitely 100% do go see this in theaters. We need movies like this. These are the kinda movies studios are afraid to put out BECAUSE people won't go see it in theaters. Go see this movie in theaters twice! Once in color, and once in black-and-white.
Cate Blanchett looks like the actor Lauren Bacall in the 1040 movies
As a noir-esque carni-type film, where would this go compared to, say, The Illusionist or The Prestige?
i actually thought this movie was boring UNTIL the halfway point and only the i was HOOKED
So what we are saying is...this female villain is better than the live action Cowboy Bebop's version of Julia?!? Sold. I'll watch this movie. :P
This movie sounds like my type of film. I dreaded monsters but now i gotta see it homes.
I'm late to the party just. saw it on hbo max, i thought this movie 9/10 and so refreshing to watch something different. Felt like the twilight zone the ending you can see from a mile away but its the how that is most important. The movie starts off with him killing someone so right off. the bat you can't trust him or that he has a secret. It was alittle slow but it was tense through and through. I want to show this film to family but it is so dark and graphic in the beginning.
Every time I feel asleep in this film, I’d wake up and there’d be less people in the theater than before. By the end of the movie, I was the only one left
Really loved this one. First act dragged a little bit but it was still solid. Acts 2 and 3 were incredible to me.
That is one of the greatest films I have seen in a while it was slower paced which I like it reminded me a lot in the pacing of like the green knight and seven which are both two of my favorite films of all time
I assumed the film was telling us it was an accident that he killed the former mentalist.
I disagree that the trailer was misleading. The second trailer gave just enough for me to get excited and set my expectations, and ultimately, it delivered. It was a pleasant surprise.
the game awards was misleading tho
Ok...Whats better The Prestige or Nightmare Alley?? I haven't seen NA...Is it like The Prestige or illusionist??
I saw it today, so glad I saw it in theaters. I'm a huge del Toro fan though. :)
Really enjoyed this film even though I do think it could have been a bit shorter
OJ Slow Burning Train Impression: NOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo…. 😆🤣😂
Years later and you still come across like you don't know much about films.
Born stupid, always stupid. That simple.
Can I request an OJ shirt of him saying "Yes, I am an idiot"
If you like this, you really need to see the original movie.
I've just seen this on HBO Max. wow! pretty good movie!
Personally I didn’t see the trailer and I super loved this movie. To me it was perfect. Don’t watch the trailer and go in blind and then you might love it.
Any word on the rest of the Hawkeye and even Far Cry 6 reviews?
AJ is Alex's biggest fan, nice tee, :)
Yeah I notice that too. Alex is awesome.
@@gringotico1759 And to think he was not too popular when he first appeared.
It's about a 6/10...Stylish but slow, Nightmare Alley pays off with a powerful ending -- if you can hang in long enough to make it, that is.....the 1947 version is better.
was a good watch. thanks
Where the hell are the boba reviews?
This year is almost over
Expectations will ruin the experience. Stop watching trailers, everyone! Trust me..
No it wasn't too long, it was a great movie.
I hoping this movie is good because it seems interesting
Halo review? Please haha
Just watched it and I was surprised how good it was
A lot of talent all around on this movie but none of it was utilized right. I felt the story was so plain and simple with some touches of hidden detail. No justifying that run time tho..
HIS NAME IS WILLEM, JOE
Guilmero Del Toro has never made a bad film.
That being sad, this is his least good film.
Where did little joe get the jacket??
I'll just say it, I didn't like it. Visuals were beautiful but the pacing was off and the plot was sacrificed for theme.