It’s Bad… Massive Hole in Our Super Late Model Engine
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- We’re checking the damage to our super late model engine after blowing it up during the Colossal 100 at The Dirt Track at Charlotte.
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I hate you guys have bad luck. At 57 years old I never thought I would be watching a RUclips series but I am a racer and you guys do a great job putting it together, plus you make me laugh in a good way. Stay humble guys. Great work.
I agree Roger, it's great that these guys, when a problem arises they are doing what needs to be done. Love the positive attitude from these guys. I'm almost 66 and been out of racing for 25 years. They make you feel that your at the track or shop with them. Thanks guys, best of luck to Hunt The Front.
Sorry it happened but.. GREAT video of real racers lives. It's a huge part of race life.. thanks for sharing it.
I have been following since the beginning. Proud of all you guys on and off the track, Anyway I have not been in racing now for 35 years, so I don't know shit . . but, I know when you start making 2 H.P. per cubic inch the engine builders use camshafts that have radical opening ramps. that requires extreme valve spring seat & open pressures. ** You should back off the rockers at the end of the racing before loading the car. This will allow the valve springs to All close. If you don't as you know many valves will be off their seat . . . this allows the springs to lose pressure. When that happens the engines starts to miss at high RPM. If they become weak enough this condition causes clearance that results in your cam lobes being beaten to death, and breaking retainers, and valve stem keepers . . . . and then a valve drops into the cylinder and you may lose the block & cylinder heads ($$$$). Solution? Back the rockers off at the end of the night, and reset valve spring clearance before loading up. Yes, a pain in the ass but you will get fast at it. You can mark the damper for what cylinders you can adjust (valve closed) . . . maybe you knew all this? but I had to say something. I'm a old racer that is older than dirt, retired in Mexico :-) I look forward to your video's. ** So, valve springs & valve lash has become critical ** Good Luck :-)
👍 I'd say you know enough to be in the conversation
Just passing along more current info from a very well credentialed dirt late model engine builder when I asked if I needed to be backing off the rockers on my own engine. He told me we don't use 1970's valve springs any more, no need to back them off
I say you guys go Gokarting again, that video was tons of fun to watch and you guys all seemed to have a blast
Nothing a little JB Weld can't fix! 😅
I was fortunate enough to be there when your engine blew in Charlotte. I came back to the pits rather than watching everyone else qualify and lined up with others to watch you guys pull out Betty and get her ready to go. Great job !!!!!
I love the adversity. Fight through it all and stick together. The world needs to watch these videos. Lessons here of more than just racing. Glad you out the past behind yas and keep moving forward. Can’t wait to see what the future holds.
Thank for bringing the behind the curtain angle to fans (and the great production value - well done!) if I hit the lottery, I'll sponsor you all :) Looking forward to Eldora!
Thank you Jonathan
Just wanna say that Jordan is one hell of a hard worker and very committed. Make sure you guys keep him around.
I personally would replace the lines I wouldn't mess with cleaning them
yeap
@@JJ-1-1 YUP
Love the videos. I watch from Panama, but am originally from North Carolina. That is racing, motors are going to blow up and you will have some crashes. I enjoy watching the team work to do whatever it takes to race. Never listen to the negative unless it helps you to improve. Just keep Hunting the Front.
The Hunt the Front Race team works very hard and sticking together when times are tough. Their luck will change to the good soon and they deserve better. Best of luck Hunt the Front you guys are Awesome
It most definitely looks like a catastrophic failure. I agree it blew out not just up. Good Luck working out the solution to the event.
Glad to see you guys are in relatively good spirits after that tough series.
We had an engine blow when we were road racing (IMSA), and we just told everyone we needed to breathe the engine a bit more, so we added another hole in the block !
The funny part was some people actually believed it !!!!
Aluminum blocks are not always toast, one thing about aluminum blocks is that they can, in the right hands, be repaired,it's not uncommon.
Obviously a different ball game but NHRA top fuel drag racers blow big holes in the blocks and they weld them up
@@thomasgray2184 You guys have obviously never seen one of theses motors blow up like there's did. If you could find some one to take the time and fix the block and re heat treat it you still have early 2000's obsolete SB2 block. Everything in those motors is special order. You would spend enough to buy a Clements Wide Bore motor and the repaired motor would still make less than 900hp.
It has been a tough year for you guys any way that you look at it. The way you guys stay positive and just keep rolling with the punches, is what sets good teams apart from others. I still think you guys should step back and take a look at where you may be in need of some help. Whether it may be a crew chief, engine program, or talking to Marshall. Something is missing. I hope you guys figure it out soon. Best wishes and Good Luck!
Can see clearly from the discoloration of the crank journal that it spun a bearing then slung the rod.... Oil starvation at its finest
@Not telling you none of your business the super has always had a belt drive oil pump since it's a dry sump system.
Even in Canada we appreciate the "Florida man" ( deep south?) . HTF!
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Hello from Ontario Canada
Hate to see bad luck but you guys truly fight threw it. Great job getting the back up out dale won't let you down. I hope you guys get a new piece that have the power to run at Eldora to show the talent of Joesph. Be safe ✌️ 🙏
Yea there’s no fixing that motor! Hate charlotte didn’t go so well but things happen and y’all keep on going and that’s what u have to do! It was so cool to see y’all in person and fun to talk to y’all at charlotte that Saturday! Y’all are truely who u are on the videos! Great guys! Proud to be a fan of y’all’s! Go Hunt the Front!!
Get a AN to Barb fitting, use garden hose with end cut off and attach to barb fitting, flush lines in both directions, then blow out both directions with air hose. They'll then be good to reuse......Good luck boys !!
I recall a nighttime photo at the start line at a drag strip looking at the right side of a Fiat Topolino Fuel Altered. Yeah, probably 50 years ago. The driver is looking down at the track. Then I recognized what he was looking at- the crankshaft, con rods, and pistons were laying on the asphalt!
I'm old I saw it happen the magic Muffler car
Glad to hear yall are still going to Eldora. See yall there!!! Bless yall
Even if the block is junk, and you have to source another block. Aside from any internal parts that obviously cannot be repaired.
All of the engine parts are repairable; either by welding up and machining parts such as crankshaft, or heads.
Although the question is cost, and whether or not you could source the parts needed.
However, anything can be fixed and reused. It is just the question is that the most feasible way to go. Or is cutting your losses on that engine and going a different direction the way you want to go. Plus would you feel confident in the repair job; even though that is the advantage of running an aluminium block, and heads. As well as a steel, or Billet crankshaft. I've even seen CNC cams that have been welded back together and machined back to like new again. (Which is the advantage of have worked for drag racer, as well as spending a lot of time around machine shops when I was younger.)
hey Joseph you guys need to talk with Cletus to get something working with Texas Speed those guys build some awesome engines man
not sure those would be legal. they have to approved engine builders for the series. sealed and tagged.
Not for the super! Run what you brung on motor pretty much. As big a small block as you want!
@@mrray55 the crates are sealed ,Not supers.
@@mrray55 Ummm NO
@Not telling you none of your business Call them. See what they tell you when you say you need one tomorrow.
Jesse DEFINITELY reminds me of Ray Stevens!! I've always thought that!! "Don't Look Ethel...."
Afraid of that. Worst one I ever blew up all I got off of it was the intake and the water pump. When we pulled the intake off you could see the floor. Money will fix it BUT at this level there are more zeros involved. Good luck on your next power plant. Sounds like yall have got some news that must be good. Hang in there guys, Better days are just ahead
Brother blew his motor to last weekend to good thing open motor modifieds ain’t as bad as open motor late models. God bless y’all’s pockets 😂 much love HTF boys ❤️
Makes me feel bad the motor let go. I do hope you can figure out how to run up front with a new motor and transmission set up. You need the good finishes.
I thought we got a new shop?
They do. Getting it ready
Cool. Last video I watched they was cleaning the floor.
Come to Senoia! Running supers and 604!
Sorry that happened hate engine failures.. my friend ran supers for 40 years and he had good luck with Hatfield racing engines and pro power
Sorry to hear that hope us good and hope to see us get going love watching us and I like us all doing a fine job Joseph running hard I see that one again good luck go get them
rosco smith classic at senoia friends. this weekend its HOT HERE. WITH AIR POLLUTION HIGH.
we call that oil pan failure. as in it failed to keep the parts inside where they belong.
Thanks!
Have you guys thought about West Virginia Motor Speedway? A Lucas oil show going on there in June
Come to Lancaster Motor Speedway one of the best tracks in the south with high banked turns. Blue Ridge Outlaws race there and it's awesome. Less than an hour south of Charlotte.
It's a well run track and the owners know how to run a race track. Very professionally run.
Everyone saying find a different builder keeps forgetting that racetech doesn't build these engines they refresh them. There is no telling how many laps or revolutions we're on the crank and rods. I don't believe racetech is the issue.
That was the first super motor they worked on.
You can tell Jesse used to do plumbing work!! He actually knows which way the channel locs face when using them!!!
Guys hate to see that big hole in the engine. But that does happen sometimes unfortunately. But just like you said you have a plan. Hope everything goes accordingly. Hope to see yall sometimes again down the road. Keep on plugging. Thinks will get better.
I’ve blown up race motor only thing usable after it let go was the carburetor and intake. It didn’t even put out the smoke yours did. But the hole side of the block was gone.
I Wish y'all would talk to Clements racing engines. In Spartanburg SC. All they do is Late Model Motors
Thanks for the great videos
I think it’s time to check on a different engine builder!
Clements has engines blow up too. 🙄. They're RACE ENGINES. They're gonna blow up at some point
Everybody knows all about Clements and what they do...you buying??
They do Xfinity too for there cars there
They also do most of the cylinder head porting for Durham, Vic Hill and a lot of other builders
So faithful spit out the SB, she wants the draime back.
Well you might have blown a motor but BOTH cars pretty much don't have a scratch on them. That's something to be thankful for. Hopefully your big sponsor will step up and get you a NEW to you piece to put in the hole.
Fellas I know where all the oil went lol. It's in the dirt at Charlotte tough break but yall coming back better than before
Call Cornett!
It didn't just blow up. It exploded! Like ya'll said, it's not if but when.
Pump failed. Had this issue 2times when we switched to power steering and fuel on back of dry sump pump. Motor did not have a failure. Pump did and caused the motor to blow. Went back to CV pump on block for fuel never had a issue again.
I totally agree
There’s a big 602 race at buckshot speedway in clanton Alabama. 2k payout plus sponsor money
I'm glad yall made it back safe!!! I hope yall have an awesome weekend , I wish yall the best of luck in the upcoming events!
Keep working hard guys and we will keep pulling for ya! 💪
u all need to get a vic hill motor for it now
Call him and ask how many he has ready to go that aren't already sold.
Wonder if the fuel was to lean. Melted the piston
Added crankcase ventilation!
I guess I got the two super cars mixed up. Cause I thought y'all had blown up the Dale car. Man that motor is trashed. At least you didn't part of a valve under the carburetor. One good thing though, at least you can check the oil easier. As we would have said, it's a boat anchor! Oh, Penton dirt track has opened back up. So at least I have a place to sneak off to now. I also want to say that before I started watching y'all, I kinda missed the rumble of a good tuned motor. What I didn't expect, lie!, is after hearing one run again I am hooked once more to dirt track racing. The only kind there is. Stay safe!
If you watched this video and aren't subscribed, why not?, it's free and they need a new engine! (which ain't free)
I bumped my Patreon to next level today so I can watch their ugly mugs. It's only 10 bucks a month. $109 a year. Or little less if you sign up for the year.
Would love to see your get a motor that could keep u up with his right foot can’t wait to see what is coming next
It's sad to see a engine that looks like that but it happens and you guys will over come this site back and I love your content so keep it coming love to all of you guys
time to stop with trucks & new shop & get some motors
Need to get a new very fast super engine I no they cost a lot but y'all deserve one
You don't have to trash the cooler it's just lines with fins flush it also
Welcome to big time racing! Kabooms are FAR more catastrophic when have an aluminum block, big power, and higher RPMs. She was really a twistin' just before it let go!
Suspect that Oil Pump, Fuel Pump, Power Steering Pump Kludge.....
Stacking them like that is just asking for trouble from Flexing and binding of shafts plus
the first pump shaft MUST take all the load of Every pump after it....
That layout is worse than a restrictor plate.... ;^)
Racers (spring cars especially) been running that style set-up for 30 or more years.
@@gailtaylor1636 : Have you ever designed and built such things?...Anything stacked that high ( i.e such a slender aspect ratio) Will flex and bend with loading and spacial dynamics and will have a vibration pattern
that can amplify that stress Especially when
Not supported at both ends...Yes nearly all
sprint cars use a 3 or 4 stage pump but I suggest Not as structured and supported
as is presented here.....
@@regdor8187 You are wrong. Sprint cars use exactly same setup. They have to drive the fuel pump and wing adjuster somehow.
Supers run that style 5 stage pump
Summertown tn next weekend please tell me y’all gonna be there. XR series and regular create racing
Man I would love to see what Joey could do with a Clements or Cornett power plant.
Please just sit down and chat with David Draime while in Eldora and consider a Willy's carb
@@rodtedrow7315 Nothing against Draime he's a pioneer of the sport. At this current time in DL racing he's not the one you need to talk to about a motor or carb. Now maybe you talk to Glen or Tony Clements or Jack Cornett about a motor.
If they want to run with these guys their going to have to spend some big money on a proven power plant.
How much are we talking for a brand new Clements or a Cornett piece? I know a new 304ci. drag race piece will run around 70,000 and up.
Who builds the motors for Larson, McCreadie, Bloomquist, and cats like that?
I would love to see you guys race at Port Royal speedway.
racing is clean, fun and cheap
I'm telling dirt daddy you tipped his bike over and then drove the heck out of it. Lol
I applaud the way you guys handle adversity.
when that engine let go if you listen to the video it was turning some very high rpm's and i almost bet that oil pump had something to do with it--
They turn there motors around 8400 that's conservative at best
It's not the oil pump there bullet proof rarely do you see a oil pump fail. The pump locked up because of foreign matter in it. That doesn't mean the oiling wasn't a issue tho...They do use Rottella oil.
@@JJ-1-1 Joseph said 8800 & 9200 second night.
@@gailtaylor1636 It seem there is always a back and and forth with you which I grow tired of. So one of use needs to revisit some videos. So since your the one questioning my statement go to the video were you see this 8800 to 9200 and play the video to the point when you hear that particular comment. Then pause the video and copy the time stamp (example 5:10 stamp) and reply with a new comment below this one. Then IF you can provide alternative information I'll be the first one to admit I'm wrong. Fair enough ?
@@gailtaylor1636 too many rpms
Joey twisting the guts out the sb2!!! Maybe you guys can find a better one to replace it!!
Hang in there guys!!! Winners never quit and quitters never win!!! You guys are obviously winners!!! Best Wishes!
Are y'all coming to race at outlaw speedway in south Mississippi in june when they run the super late models
Man Guys I know it race but I hate to see that happen to you guys let hope that better day are coming for HTF
I'm just wondering why you ran it so long, before freshen up! Those Super lightweight rods defiantly don't live forever! Its not worth tearing up a block, pan, & crank, probably some bent valves also! For a handful of thousands worth of rods, pistons, rings, & pins! I would be on the lookout for a retired engine builder, even retired guys, still love to fix up old junk! They could usually save you thousands, if its just maintenance! Those engines when not hurt, don't usually need too much! You should keep track of laps & how hard the engine was run & at which tracks! We would have notebooks in all the guys haulers, that stayed with the engines! I just hate to see good engines get torn up, Its probably going to be three times as much now! I hope you could get her fixed up! Most of the power is in the top end anyway, & I think you have a good one!
What's 925-950 running these days? 40-50k?
+25 new…. You’re right for used..
Love the "low" dog at 15:21.
Hope the blown engine did not run to lean with the restrictor that was used on it.
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Did you hear that they got things in the works people stay tuned.
Wow that really stinks when you see a big hole in the oil pan oh yeah it's happened to me a few times that's part of it I guess thanks for sharing this one with me
Is Joey and the Henderson team gonna be in MO at the Show-Me 100 next weekend still or was that a TBD on your schedule
I remember my uncles always saying a motor runs really well right before it blows up… interesting to see what caused it to quit, wonder if the new carb, oil pump or fuel pump had anything to do with it. Hopefully someone’s got something a lil better than the draine and used but not used up for sale..
They do a lot of the times
Best they ever run then let go..
There's nothing wrong with the draime it might not be a big track engine anymore. But it's been drivse and won it's share of money
Drive able and has won it's share of money
@Anti Liberal Tell us who has an engine ready to go.
@@rodtedrow7315 The Draime will not make the field out of 200 cars at the million.
Get Joseph a I did that sticker
Pulled a blown engine out of our sprint car and while tearing it down we found a cam lobe in a intake runner on the injection. It wasn’t a good day.
I know what's wrong with it! It ain't got no oil in it... In the best sling blade voice.
Who is tuning the engines for the different tracks? need to look at more than oil & fuel pressure. Reading plugs?
looks like the SB2 spun a bearing then kicked the rod out of the side of the block. that's why there are tons of glitter/bearing material in everything.
You don't change fuel pressure on the super bowl carb
As far as the oil cooler and lines go, is it worth taking a chance? Compared to the price of the engine they are cheap.there is no way to guarantee every piece of debris gets cleaned from them.
I say with the extra time you guys move to the new shop so that way you guys can start making content at the new shop
Is this really really bad luck or is this normal? I am a casual race fan and don't know. I understand the engine was used but 300 laps since being freshened up sure seems low to me. You all seem way less disappointed than I would be.
Hate to say this race engine sometimes can go on the first lap some last 1000 you never know anytime you push parts towards their limit things break bigger tracks more RPMs and longer higher RPMs down the street. Enough said..
Rule of thumb is after 1000 to 1200 laps on a super motor it should be scheduled for a refreshing. 300 laps is nothing.
Agreed about three or four years ago Davenport won the world 100 with a Cornett that he said was lapped out before the weekend I guess they can tell when they have a good one
Sell the 602 the slower of 604 and the extra super motor and buy one big dog super motor and keep the dale in the back up car especially if you plan on keeping the super lm racing going
I think I know what faithful’s problem is, she is out of gas. LOL , best of luck on your next adventure. Let’s go HTF
Anyone have any tips for troubleshooting a Sweet Manufacturing 6:1 steering box, as of now our steering wheel gets ridiculously heavy when one tries to countersteer in the corners
Say Guys, Are you still moving to the new (to you) shop? I know you have been busy racing (Blowing up engines). It just seems your current shop is on the small size, for the enormous effort you guys put out every week.
Just a wierd feelin that pump had something to do with it blowing up I could be wrong but just a guess
Good thing you guys put the seat 💺 in
Frustrated i know you guys are but I know that you guys have something others don't and that is being resilient. You guys kick ass and I know a win will cure all of the bad days. Good luck!!
That engine went what we in the business say, "KA-BLEWYY"