I suddenly just realized that Matt is putting out about 5 videos a week, and has been for a while. Just wanted to show my gratitude and thanks for all the quality content.
So modern or modernish Indian clubs are usually made out of metal, like iron and are actually still pretty common for bodybuilders in local gyms in India
I picked up a pair of clubs last year for my own elbow and grip problems. I've since added steel mace for more shoulder and grip work and it's completely changed how I do upper body exercises. Looking forward to more club videos!
Am I the only person who thinks of bowling pins when I see those clubs? And even if it is meant to strengthen grip, I would still like a lanyard attached. My windows and drywall would thank me.
Been seeing these Indian wrestling training clubs & maces getting a decent amount of attention lately. I just got a modern "Gada" mace myself and really like it! I went a touch heavier at 20 lbs, but even then it's still somewhat surprising how much offset weight on a long handle forces your body to adjust. Definitely helps one get a feel for leverage as well, which I guess is one reason why wrestlers have used them for all these generations. Other than an exercise that's essentially a spear thrust, I don't believe it overlap with HEMA nearly as much as the shorter/lighter clubs, but definitely works the stabilizer muscles in the core, arms/grip and shoulders to be indirectly beneficial.
After your last video I got off my arse and seriously looked into clubs (as I'd been meaning to do for years), and I'll underline your enthusiasm for them. I found a mob in Denmark that sell plastic handles that screw onto fizzy-drink bottles. They're called Pahlavandles from Heroic Sport if anyone's interested. They're not as nice as wood, obviously, but they're easier to source and you can change the weight with different sized bottles filled with different materials (water vs sand for example). I'll still look for some wood clubs, or maybe try to make some, but these are a great training tool for the meantime. I've got old shoulder and wrist injuries that are responding well, and it's great to find a form of upper body exercise I can actually do without making things hurt more!
@@scholagladiatoria would you like to test our pahlavandle and training videos? Send us a mail a info@heroicsport.com, we have a few ideas that could be fun to test with you!
I used them for that reason. My shoulders used to painfully pop out of joint easily from a childhood injury so I decided to strengthen everything around the shoulder as it felt like the muscles were compensating for damaged ligaments. Got a pair of 5 and 10lb'ers and slowly built up to a full range of movement with them. Took about a years effort but by the end my shoulders felt secure and strong. I highly recommend these. For those doing this, start working movements you are comfortable with, then over a period of days, weeks, or months you increase the range of movements into where you are weak and insecure. Eat that elephant a bite at a time.
Honesly I respect you.This mace traing call KARALAKSTHAI training or practice in South India Tamil Nadu. They practice this for past 2500 years. They are still, some group of people train this KARALAKATHAI genaration by genaration. They have 68 type of swing method. And there for they use 6 type of KARALAKATHAI. Kai Karalai, Puja Karalai, Gusti Karalai, Thopai Karalai, Gada and Padhi Karalai. This KARALAKATHAI is not only a execise tool for them. Those days they train this for mastering in sword fighting Achering even the famers using Thopai Karalai to reduse thire tummy. There is a type of KARALAKATHAI call Gusti Karalai train by wresling people. This Gusti Karalai only in practice in Norten India Pakistan Afganistan Turki and Iran. Rest of Karalai and the pattern of training still remain in south India Tamil Nadu
How funny!! Knowing Matt's love of late 1800's British colonial history and his latest videos on martial fashions from India (sword play, Patas etc) *I though 'Indian Club's' mean't English Officers in a social CLUB sharing their love of Indian martial culture* but it tuned out to be about actual wooden clubs. Oh well, this was good and informative too as usual but as I am here *were such 'Gentleman's Clubs' (think Polo!!) an actual thing or am I just fooling myself* and am ignorant, please tell us Matt! Very glad to hear you are healing your elbow. (Right now I am attempting to repair a smashed ankle that has left me crippled but I am getting better too via massage, flexibility training and slowly rebuilding my legs strength), Good luck Matt!
Great video! Can't wait for the next one. And I have to get me pair of these =) P.S. I am the only one who thinks that having bunch of sabres (packed in a basket apparently) is really cool?
Hi Matt, there is a new bollywood film on the Battle of Saragarhi and the 21 Sikhs coming out called "Kesari." Unfortunately, the combat scenes look heavily stylized a la "the 300." But I saw the trailer that the soldiers use these clubs to defend their outpost. Perhaps you could do a trailer breakdown? I would of been excited for the movie as the battle is interesting, but the trailer isn't promising. Maybe the costumes and weapons will be of historical interest. I'm curious, maybe you could comment as to their authenticity?
I got interested in clubs after watching this video, but all I had on hand was an old 4 lb. sledge with a 16 inch hickory handle. After using that instead for half an hour, and noting the price of clubs, I'm not so sure I need anything but that $10 sledge. It's not pretty, nor an antique, but certainly if you already have one, it is pretty good for getting used to the motions. For either, I'm going to need either higher ceilings or decent weather outside.
After further practice, I've reconsidered. The clubs have a different distribution of weight along the length, which may make the motions smoother, especially when rotating the wrists and elbows at speed. Guess I'll have to get a club to see.
Any chance you could take a look at staff and stick exercises? Alfred Hutton deals with them in "Old Sword Play" and mentions the French using the baton for exercise. I'd be interested in your take on swinging a wooden shaft for health and fitness
Heavy and light clubs are fundamentally different activities as far as I can tell. I do more heavy clubs, but light clubs are great for a warm up, maybe better for exercising the joints, and because if you do it properly, it involves a lot of grip changes, which is great for your forearms, and, I suspect, your brain.
Hmm, wonder which sword types the clubs made Matt reevaluate the usage of? Tulwar or something local to where the clubs were commonly originally used? Or maybe something closer to the clubs themselves, like a heavy duty Messer? Will be interested to find out.
In Okinawan Tode( the precursor to Karate), we used Chi Ishe much like Indian clubs. The difference is that all of the weight is at the end, and there is no 'bulbous knob' at the end to grip. I have used Indian clubs, and they are better for dynamic exercises, but the Chi Ishe is better for grip strength and joint stability. I am currently using both to rehab some injuries, they are complementary to each other, not a replacement. I could find no videos of someone in a Tode dojo training with them, but I did find one from a Goju-Ryu(Okinawan Karate, hard style) dojo. The training techniques are the same, even if the martial applications are different. Give it a watch. ruclips.net/video/8HEWa9qudHc/видео.html They are very easy to make with old food containers, oak dowels, a few nails and some quickcrete.
Conceptually, these two types of consciousness are separated. Neuroscience is also separated by the fact that there are different types of nerve processes that appear as conscious. Philosophically, the difference between them can be diminished in different ways.
Matt Would you say this is the best exercise for a extreme novice to get into HEMA? I’m a soldier in the US Army and am used to lifting heavy weights for strength...... also how would one go about finding a weapon that best suits the individual?
I wonder if it would supplement captains of crush grip training. I have a fun nsd spinner which helps out and a theraband blue bar which my PT recommended for tennis elbow.
For a low cost, adjustable club, look at www.heroicsport.com. I use them in my HEMA club for warmups and for personal training. Their RUclips channel has a bunch of tutorials as well.
For those looking for indian clubs, i.e. wooden not steel (so-called clubbells) I got mine from www.revolutionclubs.net postage from the US was high but they are rather pretty.
See a picture of Lord Hanuman , he holds a mace and from there it originated for exercise there are different names in India for this like Gada , Gurj weapon and see a picture of great wrestler Gama Phelwan he also holds the Mace same like Lord Hanuman .
the Brits, while stationed in India, saw the wrestlers using them , and hence the name. Most sources point they origin from Persia, but clubs are found in so many cultures it's hard to say. However, they are still used in Iran and all the neighboring countries, all the way to Southern India. Each region has its own local flavor and style.
yes but the way things are going training plebs to use WEAPONS my get you locked up , But you can drop a 32 kg bell on their foot , that works and you can say sorry , not
Cutting test, please.
Lol!
Good idea. I think it will be no more difficult than the already held test with a plastic sword.
Watch _There Will Be Blood_
A cutting test on a big piece of butter?
@@umartdagnir the bottle can be cut without a sharp blade. But it turns out jagged edge ruclips.net/video/r-hJFP83rEc/видео.html
I suddenly just realized that Matt is putting out about 5 videos a week, and has been for a while. Just wanted to show my gratitude and thanks for all the quality content.
I think some day Matt will just get stuck in a double entendre feedback loop for the last hour of a video
"I'm not gonna blow my load immediately"
So modern or modernish Indian clubs are usually made out of metal, like iron and are actually still pretty common for bodybuilders in local gyms in India
Slowing down the outro to get over 10min? Well played haha :D
Well spotted... I was 10 seconds too short ;-)
Neat. Why is 10 minutes important?
@@wilfdarr You don't get mid-roll ads if your videos only 9:50.
I picked up a pair of clubs last year for my own elbow and grip problems. I've since added steel mace for more shoulder and grip work and it's completely changed how I do upper body exercises.
Looking forward to more club videos!
Actually indian clubs were used to practice for khanda swinging and they used it to gain stamina so as to swing for hours during battle
Imagine being Matt's neightbour and catching a glimpse of him in his house, waving a comically large club around while casually talking to his wife.
Sea cadets and Royal Navy have the clubs as the badge of the Physical training branch
For shoulders you should also try the gada. It helped me with an old shoulder injury
The bulbous knob at the end of my "indian club" indeed helps a hand from slipping off while handling it vigorously, never thought of it that way.
Instructions unclear: bulbous knob stuck in toaster.
you might want to see a doctor
more innuendos than hair follicles
great vid Matt, very useful too, well over 35 too!!
Am I the only person who thinks of bowling pins when I see those clubs?
And even if it is meant to strengthen grip, I would still like a lanyard attached. My windows and drywall would thank me.
Seconded, on both accounts.
Have concrete or brick walls. ;)
Would love to see what workout routine you finally settle on for sportsmanship. I think these are a fantastic idea.
Been seeing these Indian wrestling training clubs & maces getting a decent amount of attention lately. I just got a modern "Gada" mace myself and really like it! I went a touch heavier at 20 lbs, but even then it's still somewhat surprising how much offset weight on a long handle forces your body to adjust. Definitely helps one get a feel for leverage as well, which I guess is one reason why wrestlers have used them for all these generations. Other than an exercise that's essentially a spear thrust, I don't believe it overlap with HEMA nearly as much as the shorter/lighter clubs, but definitely works the stabilizer muscles in the core, arms/grip and shoulders to be indirectly beneficial.
**BOTH** Gada & Indian Clubs are relevant for HEMA. I personally do modern hybrid versions of both as part of my own functional exercise routines...
After your last video I got off my arse and seriously looked into clubs (as I'd been meaning to do for years), and I'll underline your enthusiasm for them. I found a mob in Denmark that sell plastic handles that screw onto fizzy-drink bottles. They're called Pahlavandles from Heroic Sport if anyone's interested. They're not as nice as wood, obviously, but they're easier to source and you can change the weight with different sized bottles filled with different materials (water vs sand for example). I'll still look for some wood clubs, or maybe try to make some, but these are a great training tool for the meantime. I've got old shoulder and wrist injuries that are responding well, and it's great to find a form of upper body exercise I can actually do without making things hurt more!
That's great. I hope it continues to go well for you.
@@scholagladiatoria would you like to test our pahlavandle and training videos? Send us a mail a info@heroicsport.com, we have a few ideas that could be fun to test with you!
I was just thinking that I should get a pair earlier today, what a funny coincidence.
they are really good for shoulder prehab/rehab.
I used them for that reason. My shoulders used to painfully pop out of joint easily from a childhood injury so I decided to strengthen everything around the shoulder as it felt like the muscles were compensating for damaged ligaments. Got a pair of 5 and 10lb'ers and slowly built up to a full range of movement with them. Took about a years effort but by the end my shoulders felt secure and strong. I highly recommend these.
For those doing this, start working movements you are comfortable with, then over a period of days, weeks, or months you increase the range of movements into where you are weak and insecure. Eat that elephant a bite at a time.
Honesly I respect you.This mace traing call KARALAKSTHAI training or practice in South India Tamil Nadu. They practice this for past 2500 years. They are still, some group of people train this KARALAKATHAI genaration by genaration. They have 68 type of swing method. And there for they use 6 type of KARALAKATHAI. Kai Karalai, Puja Karalai, Gusti Karalai, Thopai Karalai, Gada and Padhi Karalai.
This KARALAKATHAI is not only a execise tool for them. Those days they train this for mastering in sword fighting Achering even the famers using Thopai Karalai to reduse thire tummy. There is a type of KARALAKATHAI call Gusti Karalai train by wresling people. This Gusti Karalai only in practice in Norten India Pakistan Afganistan Turki and Iran. Rest of Karalai and the pattern of training still remain in south India Tamil Nadu
My father swore by this form of exercise. I am going to start. It’s easy ,elegant and exhausting.
Are these Indian clubs the same thing the Iron Sheik used to wave above his head before matches? Looks very similar
Personally, I prefer German clubs.
*[muffled house music]*
How funny!! Knowing Matt's love of late 1800's British colonial history and his latest videos on martial fashions from India (sword play, Patas etc) *I though 'Indian Club's' mean't English Officers in a social CLUB sharing their love of Indian martial culture* but it tuned out to be about actual wooden clubs. Oh well, this was good and informative too as usual but as I am here *were such 'Gentleman's Clubs' (think Polo!!) an actual thing or am I just fooling myself* and am ignorant, please tell us Matt! Very glad to hear you are healing your elbow. (Right now I am attempting to repair a smashed ankle that has left me crippled but I am getting better too via massage, flexibility training and slowly rebuilding my legs strength), Good luck Matt!
I'll definitely going to take a more in depth look at these exercises.
Great video! Can't wait for the next one. And I have to get me pair of these =)
P.S. I am the only one who thinks that having bunch of sabres (packed in a basket apparently) is really cool?
I'd love to see a follow-up video on the insights you've gained from practicing with these.
bulbous knob - wink , ah the innuendos abound
Hi Matt, there is a new bollywood film on the Battle of Saragarhi and the 21 Sikhs coming out called "Kesari." Unfortunately, the combat scenes look heavily stylized a la "the 300." But I saw the trailer that the soldiers use these clubs to defend their outpost. Perhaps you could do a trailer breakdown? I would of been excited for the movie as the battle is interesting, but the trailer isn't promising. Maybe the costumes and weapons will be of historical interest. I'm curious, maybe you could comment as to their authenticity?
Please do a history video on these.
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I use brooms and shovels in the same way. But it's for parkour training
I would be careful with the club around the daughter/wife/grandma etc
Yes. You must ensure the mother in law never gets ahold of them!
Or baby seals.
The best type of swinger.
Sir, could you maybe also explore mace bells as well? I've seen them being used in conjunction with clubs.
I got interested in clubs after watching this video, but all I had on hand was an old 4 lb. sledge with a 16 inch hickory handle. After using that instead for half an hour, and noting the price of clubs, I'm not so sure I need anything but that $10 sledge. It's not pretty, nor an antique, but certainly if you already have one, it is pretty good for getting used to the motions. For either, I'm going to need either higher ceilings or decent weather outside.
Just be careful as you come around the back of your head!
@@wilfdarr It's something to watch out for, but equally so with the club.
@@bobgiddings0 Lol. But if I'm going to bean myself, round corners are preferable. I'm imagining goose bump vs stitches.
After further practice, I've reconsidered. The clubs have a different distribution of weight along the length, which may make the motions smoother, especially when rotating the wrists and elbows at speed. Guess I'll have to get a club to see.
Any chance you could take a look at staff and stick exercises? Alfred Hutton deals with them in "Old Sword Play" and mentions the French using the baton for exercise. I'd be interested in your take on swinging a wooden shaft for health and fitness
Body mechanics..that is a big topic to everything with body movement.
Have you ever done anything on the francisca? I haven't seen anything in your history.
And does anyone make a good replica?
This is great! I’m going to do it with my blunt mace.
Lovely. I bought a BF heavy cavalry sabre for the same: exercise in front of TV
Heavy and light clubs are fundamentally different activities as far as I can tell. I do more heavy clubs, but light clubs are great for a warm up, maybe better for exercising the joints, and because if you do it properly, it involves a lot of grip changes, which is great for your forearms, and, I suspect, your brain.
Hmm, wonder which sword types the clubs made Matt reevaluate the usage of?
Tulwar or something local to where the clubs were commonly originally used?
Or maybe something closer to the clubs themselves, like a heavy duty Messer?
Will be interested to find out.
Are you Rolling them over small and Ringfinger as well?
No, should I be?
"....the Bulbous Knob helps your Hand Not to Slide Off...."
Are Indian Clubs related to juggling clubs? They very much resemble them and I can see juggling being an offshoot of the exercises
You're correct on the juggling and Indian Club connection. They were associated via the use of modern gymnastics as part of the floor routines.
In Okinawan Tode( the precursor to Karate), we used Chi Ishe much like Indian clubs. The difference is that all of the weight is at the end, and there is no 'bulbous knob' at the end to grip. I have used Indian clubs, and they are better for dynamic exercises, but the Chi Ishe is better for grip strength and joint stability. I am currently using both to rehab some injuries, they are complementary to each other, not a replacement.
I could find no videos of someone in a Tode dojo training with them, but I did find one from a Goju-Ryu(Okinawan Karate, hard style) dojo. The training techniques are the same, even if the martial applications are different. Give it a watch. ruclips.net/video/8HEWa9qudHc/видео.html
They are very easy to make with old food containers, oak dowels, a few nails and some quickcrete.
Conceptually, these two types of consciousness are separated. Neuroscience is also separated by the fact that there are different types of nerve processes that appear as conscious. Philosophically, the difference between them can be diminished in different ways.
After this are you going to take the floorboards and engine out of your car and start running from place to place?
Flintstones reference, nice.
Give us a sword, mate...you've got loads!!!
3:39 I love these suggestions!! 😂
This, while balancing on a mini trampoline, would be ideal.
Were these used just as exercise aids? Or were they weapons as well?
Matt
Would you say this is the best exercise for a extreme novice to get into HEMA?
I’m a soldier in the US Army and am used to lifting heavy weights for strength...... also how would one go about finding a weapon that best suits the individual?
Used to open heads, now opens minds.
ALSO TRY PASSING THE CLUB, BOTH FRONT PASSES & REAR PASSES.
Follow up video to the insights, or did I miss it?
Great video thx m8.
I wonder if it would supplement captains of crush grip training. I have a fun nsd spinner which helps out and a theraband blue bar which my PT recommended for tennis elbow.
Do you think you could do Indian club excercises with a hammer?
I suppose this can teach someone to dual wield similar length weapons or to train someone to use a sword in their non dominant hand?
"The Iron Sheik wants to know your location".
Shopping TV with Matt Easton.
I wonder if bowling pins would suffice as a makeshift alternative?
Reminds me of shashka (shasqua) spinning.
The indian Club Open Matt third eye
what kind of swords did the conquistadors use ?
For a low cost, adjustable club, look at www.heroicsport.com. I use them in my HEMA club for warmups and for personal training. Their RUclips channel has a bunch of tutorials as well.
Kind words appreciated!
Can you bowl with a bunch of Indian Clubs?
where can I buy these?
One can also use hammers in the place of a club.
Why don't you try Starting Strength and, particularly, deadlifting, I'll bet your strength and grip strength will improve more.
For those looking for indian clubs, i.e. wooden not steel (so-called clubbells) I got mine from www.revolutionclubs.net postage from the US was high but they are rather pretty.
Can someone tell me what is cut number 7?
The club looks like a stretched bowling pin. 😛
3:48 Is Oscar a good conversationalist?
🔥landed🔥
Do they originate in India? Or is it just a name?
Partly in name, they came into India via the Persian-Mughal influence.
See a picture of Lord Hanuman , he holds a mace and from there it originated for exercise there are different names in India for this like Gada , Gurj weapon and see a picture of great wrestler Gama Phelwan he also holds the Mace same like Lord Hanuman .
the Brits, while stationed in India, saw the wrestlers using them , and hence the name. Most sources point they origin from Persia, but clubs are found in so many cultures it's hard to say. However, they are still used in Iran and all the neighboring countries, all the way to Southern India. Each region has its own local flavor and style.
@@HeroicSport Thanks very much. 😆👍
@@aniketsatpute2389 okie that's nice. Any source? I always read they were brought in, so would like to know more...
Iron Sheik!
"Bulbous knob" *wink*
why you hitting him so hard
"we can learn more about our martial art by studying other martial arts"... You think? 😝
@Colin Cleveland Swipe... Thanks.
@Colin Cleveland Nope, I leave the funny business to him. 🙂
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Matt really likes Indian clubs...and he’s not even a member! *ba-dum-tish!* 😄
English invented these clubs and later introduced them to India.
do kettlebells far better , 50 swings day, clubs make your hair fall out
Kettlebells are fine for what they are, but nowhere near as useful for people training for weapon use.
yes but the way things are going training plebs to use WEAPONS my get you locked up , But you can drop a 32 kg bell on their foot , that works and you can say sorry , not