Konnan & Disco ARGUE about the current state of wrestling
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@UNDERTAKERSFANZ GET A LIFE. GET A JOB. GET A FRIEND.
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ This was supposed to make someone else look bad, right? I just hope that when you grow up to be an adult you somehow develop a memory loss.
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ thanks for adding to the view count
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ thanks for adding to the view count
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ thanks for adding to the view count
This is why I LOVE this podcast: every other show is just people agreeing non-stop for an hour... while K100 is Konnan arguing with Disco for TWO hours.
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ you realise that you just called yourself gay?
@Corey Springer 436 comments
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ thanks for adding to the view count.
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ thanks for adding to the view count
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ Your mom doesn't count...
Sometimes when I’m zonked out of my mind, I like to close my eyes and imagine they’re like In a congress/galactic senate setting, yelling over each other about wrestling. Really enhances the experience
Lol
Genius concept.
Disco = Jar Jar. LOL
Pro wrestling is alot like roller skating. It had its time. Its still around, just not as popular as it once was
Roller Derby woulda been a more astute comparison, and with that said Roller Derby is extinct.
@@ConservativeVanguard roller derby is extinct? Guy...every city I go to has a womans Roller Derby league and they're very popular
Yet two billionaires rub Wrestling shows, is more watched on youtube than the NFL or any actaul sport.
@@mrjeremyleblanc oh yea is that on basic cable like a TNT or USA?
Other than that stupid reply I would say ASTUTE fucking point. Wrestling is done except for the hardcore fan and we can sit and nitpick at it for years but until you commit to a total change it’s dones
Disco is right. There may be more opportunities to wrestle now. That doesn’t mean wrestlers are making as much money. Also, businesses that don’t generate new customers will fail because the hardcores will be there regardless. Ever seen a thriving bar with no women and a bunch of old creeps sitting around? Me neither, those places die slow, pathetic, incel deaths. That’s Indy wrestling these days, a surplus of shit dive bars with no hot women.
Exactly. Where's the bitches
The wrestlers are doing fine. A few are making more than Hogan, Stone Cold, etc did. But if it was anywhere near as hot as it was in the late 90s/ early 2000s the money would be insane.
@@GLPitt1 what is your point ? That IF the heat around pro wrestling is 2002 they would be better taken care of ? Great statement genius. The wrestlers EKE out a living meanwhile when wrestling was hot there was crossover possibility
@@isidroramirez3383 Point is, there are more people making a living as full time wrestlers than ever before. But if there were between 6-10 million people watching wrestling every week like in the 90s, it would be even better.
@@GLPitt1 Exactly. Plus the people making a living as wrestlers now aren't doing so hot for what the job actually is. 150k is the average pay for those guys minus the few Cena, Lesnar, Reigns out there. It's good money but no insurance, lots of travel, no per diem, lodging isn't covered so that 150K starts dropping real fast to be more like a 40-60k with gas, hotels, food, gym memberships, and medical.
PLUS it's only hot with advertisers who don't do much research, they just assume wrestling will be big again or is holding at some fairly large size. They didn't realize the majority of the Gen X/Gen Y crowd left long ago and the rest were drove out. So we're building towards a ESPN level mess where eventually it becomes unprofitable as advertisers realize the 2 million IS the whole world.
Nerds don't like people like Brock Lesnar and Mandy Rose etc because it reminds them of high school lol.
Facts!
that is a BRILLIANT point. Would you email that into the show so that he can be spoken about on the next recording? K100Questions@Gmail.com (with a question as well)
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL I'm only a wrestling casual m8 but your're free to forward my point.
Really.
Mohamed Ali yes smarks hate big guys
Seriously, this is one of the best uploads you guys have done in months. I would prefer this more often than the awful interviews or the Juicy Song debate.
Sorry Konnan, I'm from England and wrestling is still as uncool as ever. It draws the same niche market similar to the states.
Every metric bar Vince’s Saudi deal (and even then he rolls out the old boys) suggests wrestling hasn’t been this niche, ever
WWE seems to be catered to an audience under 10 years old or even younger in my opinion. No teenager, adult or whatever is captivated by stuff like the WWE does. Its too predictable, has nothing original in it, there is literally no reason at all why someone would watch that shit. Last time i watched WWE was when i was in prison and was really really bored. And it was horrible
Baba Ed that’s wrestling in general, right now. It’s all cringeworthy.
@Mike41 It WAS popular 8-10 years ago. It has just cooled down a lot in recent years and a lot of people haven't updated their info.
@@babaed5760 which makes me think it is being prepared to eventually be sold to disney
The reason wrestling is not good today is not because of the talent, it's the writers and promoters not sticking with a storyline or pushing a star for a very short time and of course recycled ideas. I mean the blunt recycled.
I'm so glad that KG is gone, he's not even NORMAL he was so dumb. He's comparing Sami Zayn's body to JOHN CENA?!
Who or what in the fuck is a kg?
@Stephen Joens kevin gill
@@cesarpac3723 Kevin Gill
KG said Joey Ryan was "blowing people's minds".
Kg is a smark
video about him going up in a few minutes
Blowing people's cocks more like it
Its the Boobplex
Disco killed him in this argument
When I first started listening I found myself agreeing with KG then as time went on more with Konnan & nowadays I find myself agreeing with Disco LOL
That's because when you're younger you usually put optimism first, whereas when you grow older you're more likely to be realistic. Just like young liberals who want all of this shit, then you grow up and start leaning more right because logic usually clowns emotions.
These wrestlers parents were still in the backseat of thier car when Konan was doing drive bys in the barrio
"Girls are starting to show up to indy shows"
That's a joke
Yeah the ones Marty Scrull is on
such a typical KG statement
@@mackspowah3281 man, talk about a fall from Grace.
😂😂😂
Let me say my nephew was 12 saw attitude era wrestling got into it for a 2years and then saw current era wrestling and quit. They cant capture audience with these guys and that is why us ratings have been dropping forever.
Well, WWE ratings seem to be rising. Not but much but rising is rising.
the wwe is at its worst its ever been in history...
Richochet is an amazing talent, but he isn't drawing ratings. He's an Indy Wrestler, no matter how the WWE works him on their programs. He isn't going anywhere. He's a ROH guy. There isn't one guy that brings in the crowd anymore, CM Punk is gone who brought in some ratings. But none of them can bring in the ratings.
John Cena was the last guy that kept the standard ratings before it began to fall.
Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, and the rest of the guys aren't stars. They're just ordinary Wrestlers.
I think that Konnan is maybe just seeing it from the perspective of the scene down in Mexico... but in America? this is the worst time, in my life time, for wrestling.
@@angryninja thing is, Konnan knows way more about wrestling than most people alive. The dude knows everything.
From a fan perspective, especially for non mark nerds, it is. But for the wrestlers and promoters it is great. They are able to make $ just targeting the niche audience and not trying to be relevant in pop culture. But it could be even more lucrative if the big promotions were more on the radar of the average joe.
@@GLPitt1 I've heard, just the internet, that AEW isn't making profit
jim ross stone cold bubbah ray Dudley know just as much and more ..
@@jackstraw4222 what about them? You forgot to make a point
Wow the guy talking to Disco and Konnan is ridiculous and just comes off like a pretentious wannabe know it all.
I live in the UK and wrestling is not a big deal, you barely see it on TV at all its not covered anywhere in the mainstream media.
Had to stop listening when he mentioned Joey Ryan and the young bucks etc. people who are literally unknown at large in this country.
Dude before coronavirus, English wrestling was everywhere and popular. Got all the japanese dudes to come in to Progress and RevPro. NXT UK came about for a reason. Besides WWE, no wrestling promotion gets mainstream attention.
@@cmderp had nothing to do with all the talent in the European countries? Progress sold out Wembley right before Nxt uk started. Yeah man seemed to be dying....
@@thatdude-xj4qe mate wrestling is no where near the mainstream. Its irrelevant to everyday people
@@wce05308 wwe is a publicly traded billion dollar company...must be relevant to some everyday people.
@@thatdude-xj4qe they are losing money do your research.
My biggest pet peeve is how Disco will talk over and cut people off when they try to make their point. I always catch myself thinking "Damn Disco just shut up for 1 minute and let the others make their rebuttal." It's like his debating tactic is to talk over them and drown out their point.
Disco never gets the credit he deserves as a good wrestling mind. Idgaf about the aliens and invisible man ideas. Lmao. He is such a great modern day heel that pisses off all these indy marks.
Wrestling SUCKS right now. The fans are all haters, the wrestling isn't good, the wrestlers aren't good or likeable... and yeah: i blame it all on the indy scene which has no morphed into AEW.
Well said ,the biggest problem with wrestling now are the fans. Especially the indy fans, they think they know it all and attack anybody with constructive criticism.
The wrestlers today are good but I agree that the fans are always trying to hate on everything. This along with the scripted promos in wwe is part of the reason why wrestlers come off as unlikable.
Mr Mr especially saying guys like ricochet should be wwe champions and beat Brock lesnar. Like dafuq are fans smocking? Another thing is they get heated when you criticize about wrestling and wrestlers of today. These guys are just gymnastics and lack the psychology of wrestling
@@KSL708 well said ,some people just dont get it . Not everyones gonna be in the maint event, it's a business play your role. Mayweather isn't in the heavyweight division but still a box office draw.
I struggle to see how wrestling is good right now. All these people will be forgotten in 20 years
I love Konnan... but Disco is making some great points here.
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ thanks for adding to the view count
Zack Ryder was totally over and hes in great shape... despite Konnans assertion Caesaro is in phenomenal shape. Reigns and Cena being booed had nothing to do with their physique. It had everything to do with their lather, rinse, repeat character. 5 moves of doom... exact same catch phrases everytime. The ones you can call the match as u watch it before they execute the move. People end up REALLY getting behind the unorthodox looking guys because its not the cookie cutter Vince guy... not because of the look. But because of the template. Its why Drew McIntyre had been getting over. He wasnt copy and pasting his act. Odd Disco kinda glosses over him cuz he doesnt fit the narrative hes spinning but Drew was certainly getting over before the virus hit. As for comparing Elsworth and Jinder? Come on Glenn... youre making an apples to apples comparison between those two? Really? Lol
@@DeathbySkullfxxx Ryder was over with who? marks.
AiCDragon Ryder wasn’t over. Drew has never been over, either. Disco is right, in that the guys that don’t go to the gym and make themselves look like credible wrestlers, are the ones that smarks and marks are drawn to, because they look like them.
@@MrBallerbjoel Drew McIntyre was over huge this year until the crowds couldn't attend.
Omg kg! Had forgetten what he sounded like lol. We should only be hearing his voice while he's being buried
Wish I would have gotten into wrestling when I was in my younger 20's 9 years ago. Before I fell through a roof. I've watched it since I was a kid. Stopped watching when I was in high school. I'm addicted to listening to these wrestling podcasts now. Hearing all the stories it's great to listen to. Much respect to you guys from a 90's kid.
Bret Hart and Michaels were in top shape. If you put them next to Zayne and Owens, they would make these two look like jobbers.
Digging deep in the archive and heard someone say “the young bucks are blowing peoples minds” ???🤣🤣 it blows my mind every time the flex, they have absolutely no muscle tone or muscle, it blows my mind when they speak because their promo game is booboo... they might be the worst thing in aew and they’re probably behind a lot of the trash storylines as well
joe blanco so right bro. The bucks are a complete embarrassment to the rest of us that collect air Jordan’s. They shouldn’t be allowed to wear the shoes. The bucks are just awful in all categories
Disco called it on Keith Lee and ricochet. Lets face it he ain't wrong that often when it comes to wrasslin. Konan and dumb ass k.g. were calling him out but look now he right on the money.
Not even a fan of Keith, but I don't think he even wrestles that much anymore which is sad. Keith also said he's dealing with an injury from 2022! Smh
Disco is right alot of these dudes including the women will be a flash in the pan.
Konnans wrong ,I live England and it isn't as big as hes making it sound
Especially now, the UK scene is DONE.
@Shin Bakurenoh oh ok ,even at that. Wrestling hasn't been big in the UK for ages. Just because a few indy shows are selling out doesn't make it big.
I love Konnan and Disco because even though they played characters they both could WORK
Plus them being around in the best era imo didn't hurt either
I’m glad the OG Kevin Gill isn’t on this program anymore.
Yeeeeesss, finally we get a clip longer than 3min 🙃🙃😉😆😆😆
Disco is speaking facts 💯
I have an overarching theory about contemporary culture (ie. the last 20 years, especially), and here's how it relates to the current wrestling audience (and Disco alluded to this)- the modern-day fans eat up watching normal guys who they can project themselves onto- I believe that they want to fantasize about being wrestlers and getting the girl and would rather watch schlubby guys like Kevin Owens (who is admittedly very talented) or undersized guys that look like shit like Joey Janella that they can project themselves onto, because it's less work to pretend like you're one of these guys than to see yourself as or ever aspire to work to be a guy that actually projects the aura of a badass man. Sorry to be an asshole, but comparing these modern-day 'superstars' to even the smaller guys of 20 years ago like Hart and Michaels is such horseshit- those guys were both around 6 feet tall and looked like and carried themselves like MEN and had an aura of true mainstream CELEBRITY about them- look at Hart in his leather jacket and shades and look at Michaels in his amazing outfits, and the way they carried themselves- even the truly smaller guys of that era brought something else major to the table to make up for being average size (eg Dean Malenko had '1000 Holds' and proved it week in and week out), and even guys that were only 5'8"-5'11" were still muscular and looked like they took care of their bodies and were athletes and looked like they could still whip you in a bar fight. Joey Janella? Orange Cassidy? These fucking geeks that project dorkiness look like they work at a deli. Let's go back further- even guys like Harley Race or Dick the Bruiser or Big John Studd who weren't exactly roided out bodybuilders were still big hulking motherfuckers who could rip you limb from limb. We now have the worst of all worlds- guys that are 5'9" that look like they don't workout that don't project celebrity who do nothing but goofy high spots and 'high impact' moves and wouldn't stand out in any way from the average crowd of obese / pathetically shrimpy American males.
I don't think it has anything to do with appearance tbh. I think people are missing the point. What fans look for are larger than life characters. The real reason people get behind Orange Cassidy is because he is offers the fans something unique and different when compared to bigger dudes. He is entertaining on and off the ring and got himself over without even saying a word. Off course we would need him to be more serious if he plans on developing as a serious threat. Someone like Roman on the other hand is too serious, does the same five moves and is more of a cookie cutter baby face. Built superstars should not get over solely because of their size and look that is why Cena failed at first, they need to be entertaining as well.
@@ilcamileon6617 I agree- on the other hand, how can some of these guys who purport to be PROFESSIONAL wrestlers look the way they do? My buddies and I look more legit than half the guys in AEW and we work out 3x a week and sell insurance at a desk for the other 50 work hours. I totally agree that you don't have to be 6'2" 240, but on the other hand, if you're 5'9" and look like a geek, there's a huge swath of would-be fans who will never take you seriously unless you are present yourself as a legit shooter / badass (eg Taz, Malenko, Benoit) or otherwise at least look like you are some kind of athlete. My all-time fav was Bret Hart- not a huge guy, but i credible worker, treated himself like a pro, and was serious- can you imagine the smaller greats of 20 years ago (Hart, Guerrero, Malenko, Owen Hart, Marty Jannetty) working with the indie goofballs of today? It's totally pathetic how not-cool some of these contemporary wrestlers are.
@@geoweo7491 Well I could totally see them working with Bryan and AJ styles to name a few haha. AEW just got some big guys and still kinda new. Not sure if they would be as agile if they bulked up and probably more prone to injury. But I totally agree, many of them would benefit from hitting the gym cause they are not camera friendly or like you said look they are athletic.
@@ilcamileon6617 naw, for me it def has to do with appearance when it comes to guys like orange Cassidy and Hook. Like I can't believe Hook is Taz son on lol, he looks like a 16 year old boy, like fr
The whole aura of a badass, what it means to be an alpha male, to look at in awe and aspire to be is something that has been killed off in society nowadays. When I was a kid and I saw guys like Undertaker, Brock, the Steiners, Goldberg, I saw badasses. Those guys in present day are told at a young age that they're toxic and shouldn't be glorified. Modern day wrestling fan hate guys like that and want smaller guys that only have "athleticism", because of the same reason you stated which is they relate to them. Someone like Kevin owens is relatable to your average next door neighbor rather than someone like Scott Steiner who looks like he could rip a car apart and beat you with it. It's the same reason why RUclips channels believe that the cruiserweight division of wcw are the main reason why they were winning against wwf
The problem with wrestling is the fans. Fans have become fantasy bookers. Because of this, it’s almost impossible for them to enjoy wrestling the way they used to when they watched it to have a good time. Now they watch it to nitpick and analyze and critique every little thing. Everything Hass to go exactly the way that they think it should go or they complain about it online. They complain about things that don’t even matter like wins and losses or the number of pretend championships that someone has. Wrestling has gotten away from being something that people enjoy and turned into a never ending roundtable discussion with fans. I used to be a smart mark and I decided that I wasn’t going to watch wrestling that way anymore. I wanted to have fun again.
fans don't understand wrestling. If it was up to them, the next Raw would open with Lesnar vs Lashley in a HIAC match
Kevin sounds like a AEW mark so typical. Kevin sorry you wrong again.
Nothing I love more than 2 or more people trying to speak over each other.
Wrestling storylines are crap, anytime I see mid card guys I think to myself “who the hell are these guys?”, “why are they wrestling?” And “why should I care?”
They rush stuff way too often. Hulk Hogan vs Sting was 18 MONTHS of build... now it's about 2 weeks.
Keepin' It 100 OFFICIAL How long was the Konnan vs Perro Aguayo program in EMLL? That was the first feud I ever saw and remember seeing fans who were in the crowd crying when Konan lost his mask.
As much as I despise his booking, that was the one thing that Vince Russo did right for WWF, everyone from lower to mid card meant something to the audience and they were always excited to see them the next week.
Proof is in the ratings...ratings are at all time low! It dont matter how passionate what little fans are out there are...no one is watching anymore like they used to.
I’m so sick of people who can’t get a million people to watch them on national television be called a draw!! There’s a reason that MILLIONS & MILLIONS of people who use to watch wrestling every week have found something else to watch!! There’s a reason people who watch wrestling for the first time don’t continue to watch or keep up with it in any way!! Because no one can draw!!
this podcast needs to be renamed Konnan vs Disco Inferno.
@Corey Springer oh, i like it.
@Corey Springer HAHAHA, yeah save the face for the end.
@Corey Springer hey, have you seen Konnan vs Disco from a 99 PPV? it's a legit good match
@Boris Grishenko he's on the Patreon?
Pro wrestling is dead the only way to bring interest back is present a shoot style with colorful characters. Larry szybsco mentioned this in a shoot interview years ago
well Dreamer (thinks) he's onto something with House of Hardcore...but yeah basically need waaaay more promotions than just 1 It's done fone full WCW and without much comition(yet) AEW miiiight get off the ground. but it's trying to hard IMO
Didn't Barry Harowitz lose all the time untill he beat Dkip from the Body Donnas. How long was his losing streak?
Yeah, for years. No one was counting back then.
Wow 27min!! My birthdays not till tomorrow! Stoked
stay tuned for more soon...
The England Wrestling scene was 10 years ago, just like Ring of Honor was 15 years ago. The UK scene is and has always been a small crowds. Even WWE couldn't get UK fans into WWE UK brand. The biggest crowd they could get was 5k. WWE can't even sell that anymore with UK crowds. Even their brand had to move to NXT.
None of my friends who grew up on the attitude era like me watch wrestling anymore. Even I recently gave up with all of the BLM nonsense. It’s a dead medium. Wrestling podcasts are more entertaining than wrestling itself.
The thing is wrestling not being mainstream anymore is just a natural progression of what happens on TV. Shows like Simpson, Family guy, and south park only attract their hardcore base nowadays and are no longer considered mainstream. People will recognize the names but they aren't watching anymore.
Not unless you evolve. The WWE is catering to a niche audience
I still feel like Family Guy is main stream, its rapid fire joke telling style makes it easy to post what seems like millions of Family Guy clips across social media
I'm siding with Disco on this one. I tried to be an AEW fan at the start but it's the fanbase... they just RUINED it for all of us.
i like aew for the fact of its something else to watch and if one loves pro wrestling they will watch pro wrestling. i just done like every aspect of it as i like somewhat the "mystery" of realism to it. i joined a group on aew for fans. all i said is along the lines of match was ok but...all i said was but, and after that nothing mattered. some there chastise for no reason as if aew is some angel coming to save the masses of wrestling. i gave you the short version lol.
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ thanks for adding to the view count
Fuck AEW. Why have they “banned” Hogan? As if he’s showing up to a bunch of vanilla midgets and WWE rejects show. They should focus on firing Jimmy Havoc the rapist fuck, instead of sending him for help just an excuse not to fire him. They’ll end up like WCW don’t let the talent run the show 😉
@@Lebosh23435 vannila midgets? I geuss Hogan is a midget lmfao. Lance archer 6"8, Hager 6"4 a MMA fighter Lee 6"5, Cage looks like a beast someone im scared of Wardlow looks like a beast, Mox 6"4 . And vanilla i guess Jericho, MJF, Sammy, Darby, Cody, FTR, and Mox can't cut promos even though they have had some of the best promos of the past 10 years. Haha you just hate AEW because Kenny, the Bucks, Meltzer and all them smarks but you love the company it's self just admitt it. And lets speak about the height of the wrestlers of the 80s and 90s Flair around 6"0 same with Shawn, Jarret, Savage, Steamboat, etc. So what era do you like then? Clearly not Attiude era golden era or any era of wrestling.
@Mike41 MJF classic heel? I geuss you never like wrestling at all then at all .
I always wondered why they took pride in delivering 2-3 min clips?
Great job with this 1 guys!!
Well, because that would only talks about certain subjects for 2-3 minutes.
Due to the pandemic I don't feel comfortable being in family gatherings. But thanks to keepin it 100, I can have the experience of family arguing at the dinner table while I sit there in silence listening in .
Disco absolutely destroyed that guy. It wasn't even close 😂🤣
I remember when TNA had a successful ppv in San Antonio "Lockdown" (2013) and they had the largest crowd (in TNA history) with over 7,200 fans. Fast forward, the same company did a show in San Antonio last year and hardly anyone knew that the event occurred. Wrestling lost its appeal to the broader audience.
it's the marks, they've scared off casuals.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL and, just boring as fuck! No croud isn't helping either. Their's no energy behind these guys.it's at all the same to try to watch Snoring wide with Randy Boring, being a fucking wind bag. with his same tired af shit. then Christian come out from...where ever the fuck, and why do I care? that's like atching to old geezers in old folks fight over yogert. Don't just be a windbag telling me a gameof thrones meladrama about fuckerdick, and snore. Show it. have asshole 1 and 2 betting the shit out of each other. the problem is, that it's just boring as fuck.
Hall and Nash being a dick. showing me chucking sasha banks into DI. Bliss getting the ever living shit beaten out of her by flair for interupting a match? ok now I know something about them with them cutting 5 year long HHH promo. Well uuuuuh you see uuuuuh i uuuuuuh, beet uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh the uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh shit uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh out of uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh you uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh because uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh i uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh can uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh. fuck that. their's no sense of urgency, their's zero reason for me to give to fucks why 2 people in spandex and face paint or in some ring. If I want that their's MMA.or what's left of it.
Disco Inferno is the SMARTEST Guy in the Room. You have my full respect as a fan of 30 years. Thank You
Cena destroyed the entire roster from 2005-2015... and wrestlers still try to blindly figure out why wrestling never progressed after that. You'll never figure out why wrestling is dying until you step out of the woods and look at the trees. Cena and Roman are MANUFACTURED. They were not success stories, they are gimmicks. If you can't figure that out, then you're wasting your breath. I don't care how long you've been in the business. The only difference between Cena and Kevin Owens marketability-wise, is that the machine backed Cena and not Owens. Period.
like who?
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL That's kind of a vague question. Which part are you asking about?
Like who did Cena destroy?? Are you kidding me??
Its never been a colder product. The difference is the niche crowd has grown and the Internet has allowed people to monetize their stuff. I remember being desperate to see early ROH for example but you had to wait ages for the dvd.now you can stream it and that core crowd can get whatever they want straight away. The core crowd has grown thanks to the nerd culture that has overtaken it but its not mainstream, even longterm fans like myself have switched off as they do their best to alienate anyone but their core audience. I would imagine as a performer there has never been a better time to make a bit of money. As a longterm fan though I hate the products and many of the performers to the point I don't think I'll ever watch modern stuff regularly again.
2020 has the be the worst year ever for wrestling, behind the scenes.
Post longer videos more often, it’s “good shit”
stay tuned...
Most of what DI is saying is legit. TV ratings are the shit, crowd turn outs are even worse.
Lord I feel horrible for thinking this. With all do respect to everyone. I closed my eyes and saw bert (disco), ernie (kdogg) and Elmo talking. Love you guys, just thought it was funny. Always entertaining. Definitely one of the best podcasts ever.
Lol
Wrestling is a niche sport now and has been declining since 2000 and thats when The Rock and Steve Austin were still wrestling.
wrong.
2001. Apart from Invasion, the PPV buy rates after Mania 17 were significantly lower
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL Im right just look at how the ratings have been declining since 2000.
2000: 5.88
2001: 4.64
2002: 4.01
2003: 3.76
2004: 3.67
2005: 3.81
2006: 3.90
2007: 3.61
2008: 3.27
2009: 3.57
2010: 3.28
2011: 3.21
2012: 3.00
2013: 3.01
2014: 2.95
2015: 2.64
2016: 2.26
www.themix.net/2019/05/are-wwe-viewership-ratings-not-improving-in-2019/
@@usainbolt7904 Im talking about tv ratings which has been dropping since 1999
www.themix.net/2019/05/are-wwe-viewership-ratings-not-improving-in-2019/
i remember when rock first left the ratings went down and after that they never went back up ....then when he did return later it wasnt such big deal anymore...
I think what matters is how obvious the" powers" favorites at the time are being pushed. Not the body shape. Also character believability is a huge aspect.
Which is why Otis really is a good choice for his push
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL totally agree otis is awesome full of that " it " factor. Here's to hoping he successfully cashes in mitb 🍺
KG is delusional here. Wrestling has never been as unpopular as it is now in the US. That's not to say a pocket here and there has a hot indie scene, but overall wrestling is deep, DEEP in the doldrums. CZW and other Philly indies (ROH) were drawing over 900-1,000 fans a show in their heyday several years back. crowds like that aren't ground breaking. Also the problems with guys like Richochet is there's so many other guys like him. Tons of guys today can do flashy wrestling moves, it's almost the norm. Yeah Richochet is good but as time goes on his star will fade because there's a lot of others like him, he doesn't really stand out at all after you see him a bunch of times. Great athletic talent, but totally replaceable / interchangeable like pretty much all the wrestlers from this generation and I think that's the biggest problem. Nobody stands out at all, nobody is unique, nobody is a star.
It's a bummer but 100% true. Well said.
Ya know what I equate most of these wrestlers to nowadays? Those people that WWE used to aim at with their disclaimer of these are trained professionals do not try this at home or send in video submissions we will not accept them.
....they accepted them! LOL
Agreed, AND I think its not crazy to call Ricochet the best guy who can do that style right now, but there have been lots of guys to do that style and currently there are more than ever that do that style. If Ricochet came around in like 2003-ish WWE, that woulda been the perfect time for him to shine
KG’s comments about Ric Flair, HBK & Brett combined with Joey Ryan statement we’re so ridiculous & markish & down right ignorant that I actually felt sorry for him!! Now I see why he’s never made a dollar in the professional wrestling business!! “Fans” like that hurt wrestling far more than they help it!!
Mi hermano Konnan, always staying and saying the truth, se te extraña mucho por acá en Mexico, well at least you were safe not being here with this crazy earthquake that hit the city, mucho exito mi hermano! cheers!
Disco will cut you off at the drop of a dime😂😂😂
isn't that the fun of the show though?
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL it's annoying af
It's really not fun tho... Like come on D.I let konnan make his point 😂😂 I still like the show tho💯
@@wce05308 because you've never heard of a real conversation before?
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL talking over someone isn't a conversation Hughesy. Stop being a suck up champ.
Great Podcast Guys!
This is something that I will NEVER forgive Joe Feeney for... HE MADE US HAVE TO LISTEN TO KG AGAIN!!!!
Haha...I was going through old clips and sent this Hughezy’s way. Guilty as charged.
@@Jffeeney3rd We'll settle this in the cage Feeney! summer slam is near.
Disco lost all the time and he got over
coz wins mean nothing.
True, bu he’d Hager be taken seriously as champion. He can be over in the middle of the card. But you have to win consistently or win some high profile matches to be a top guy.
“That’s my point” -Glenn “Disco Inferno” Gilbertti
Joey Ryan, "Mind Blown'
lol okay dude
The modern wrestling isn’t the same. Disco was right about nerds are taking over in professional wrestling and everywhere. However, Professional wrestling is getting political on the ideals of what wrestling should be or shouldn’t be. I feel like modern wrestling isn’t doing original things that we don’t see in professional wrestling nowadays. We see same thing over and over again.
We want to see new things in professional wrestling.
For example being the elite is awesome shows in RUclips.It’s different from wwe that we watch as wrestling fans. You see wrestlers who embrace the characters as themselves or their gimmick. In television shows like WWE shows or AEW shows we don’t see anything different but recycles storyline that doesn’t make no sense at all. Even some wrestlers who has awesome gimmick are being burying because of backstage politics and bad bookings. That’s why wrestling fans are listening to Jim Cornette podcasts and Keep it 100 with Konnan podcasts. Because they want some intelligence logic storyline within modern wrestling.
The best storyline ever seen is the golden lovers in NJPW. There are a lot of lgbt people are wrestling fans. They related with the golden lovers storyline because their is a strong connection between Kenny Omega and Kota Ibushi. It’s the same thing with Heel Sasha Bank and Babyface Bayley when they was in NXT at the time. Both women want to be the best and make the women champions matter. I want to see wrestlers to make wrestling matters with a smart storyline that relatable to us.
the nerd marks have ruined it for everyone.
Keepin' It 100 OFFICIAL Exactly, Did you heard about Tony Khan interview about Kenny Omega is the one who did the whole AEW women division segments? It’s like he doesn’t like Kenny Omega bookings AEW women division. I don’t blame him for Kenny Omega bookings for women division. Tony Khan need to drop the rankings system complete.
People can't attend an Indy show just for the simple reason of something to do? I'm a casual wrestling fan at best these days. I barely watch WWE, AEW, or any over the promotions. But if there is a a show nearby, tickets are reasonably priced --- I figure, sure. Why not? Not looking to have my mind blown or discover new stars on the rise. Just going to watch some Pro Wrestling for a couple of hours and then move on.
The small indy promotions often have more interesting characters and storylines than WWE or AEW. They are not afraid to try different things. And let young guys find their way of promoting & presenting themselves.
Only solution is to have Disco in AEW challenge Cody for that stupid title and WIN
AEW wouldn't be able to handle Disco because he would be playing a heel who actually gets a heel reaction.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL I would love to see that but now days heels get cheered maybe that's why its difficult to come up with a good heel gimmick
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL bro what you on about i like your chanel but the facts speak for themselfs MJF gets heel reactions same with Pac etc. All get heel heat the only one i can think of that dosen't is mabey Jericho. I think people just hate AEW because of The Young bucks Omega the ellite and Dave Meltzer and all the smarks over hating the company and the wrestling show it's self.
He has to go 40 minutes with the work horse Marko Stunt first
Discoe is frrrrreakin out
coz he's got Disco fever
a video longer than 90 seconds? squeezy's gonna need the rest of the week off after this. Why is konnan doing duck face on that pic?
coz that's what made you click on the video.
I can only work with what they give me.
Hearing KG gave me PTSD.
Is this audio old? If so then Disco was right, Ricochet recently tweeted about having a sore hip
which is exactly why WWE aren't pushing him
The popularity wrestling garnered between 1998/9 - 2002 was mostly because it was must see tv. People were literally watching 2 companies at war with each other, and the 2 companies at war were displaying it for the public to see. It was literally something that no one has ever seen or experienced before. After the war ended, so did all the drama and excitement and then fell off to what it is now.
Wrestling right now is like early 80's there's about 5 or 6 pro outlets (WWE,AEW,impact,MLW,NJP and NWA) in 2020 the 80's (WWF,AWA,WCW,NJP,NWA, Smokey mountain,Georgia south wrestling and the one and only UWF)
Disco is right, itv covered wrestling for a week and then cancelled
it was a crappy show.
I think Konnan was trying to said as species we are adrenaline junkies not the mouthful that he said
6:43 Disco called it! Look at what has happened to NXT. Phased out HHH version and went back to hot girls & big guys with both sides being young. That indie wrestling style was ALWAYS FOR THE nerds never for the mainstream audience AND NEVER WILL BE.
Disco seems jaded and jealous. Konnan knows what's what. Best podcast on youtube
I don't mean to take shots at a guy while he's doing because I hear he's not doing so well... but really, Kevin Gill just SUCKED on this show. Listen to him. He's telling a WRESTLER that he's wrong about how wrestling works.
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ Bro, you've left NINE comments on this video in 2 minutes!!!
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ thanks for adding to the view count
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ listen up N, we can see how many comments you leave per day. Stop setting yourself up to be trashed
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ WHO CARES?! why do you care nerd?
@UNDERTAKERSFANZ woah are you getting desperate!
This is awesome..im gonna sub
We need this..
Sami zane is athleticly as good as hbk. He just lacks the fans base and and charisma. The only reason hbk was so huge was the window moment with Marty. Sami just needs his Marty moment
Need to turn him Babyface again he doesn’t work as a heel
I don't think anyone will ever be as good as HBK
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL Sami Zane = HBK? Nah bro.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL hard to argue that for popularity but As far as wrestling ability goes sami can do everything hbk can do.
konnan vs disco inferno. book it vince
What neither of these guys take into account is that NOTHING is as popular today as shit used to be. The internet has fragmented the culture into a bunch of niches. This doesn't apply just to wresting.
WHAT WRESTLING PROGRAMMES ON WHAT ENGLISH TV CHANNELS SINCE BIG DADDY????
ITV brought it back for a while
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL
So did Moloko; look how that turned out
Konnan acts like he dont know the names of Heath Slater and Drew McIntyre...what a joke.
This clip was from April 2017.
No i know but Konnan acting like he dont know who was in 3 man band is ridiculous.
Fans hate that anything that doesn’t feel organic. They don’t like someone if they think the company was planning to make that guy a star behind the scenes. Fans like the person who they believe the company didn’t give a shit about, but they(the fans) saw something in them, and because they got behind that person, the company was forced to push them.
Disco looks like that dad from Little People: Big World
Tweet him a photo
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL I don't want to get blocked bro lol
I am a hardcore wrestling fan or a nerd I am just a passionate fan who loves wrestling because I grew up watching it with my dad and grandfathers.
I am not a damn troll
i had wondered what happened to KG since for years now Ive not seen him work with ICP/Psychopathic Records or JCW
Violent j talked about a few months ago
Im trying to figure out what Discos argument is before I really comment. Im hearing him saying that its a bunch of goobers and fanatics coming to these shows...ok, whats wrong that, especially if they are loyal and spending money. I hear KG too, is this an old show ?? And Im joining the patreon. I really enjoy this show Konan !!! Thanks bro !!!
that wrestling isn't in a good place
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL Alright, cool. Yeah I agree with that to a degree. I do think he completely over looked that the U.K. was having a wrestling boom period. There were so many promotions, running sold out shows or close to sold out shows for a few years. Now...I feel like NXTUK hurt their own scene there. But over all, I can agree. I try not to compare today's business, to yester years because nothing will ever compare. Joining the patron!!
The Women's revolution is what's wrong with Wrestling.
it's long done, it seems.
Disco spitting facts
I've never heard Kermit the frog be so argumentative before..
I don't think I want to see what KG thinks is a "hot girl"
Cesaro is built like a tank but he extensively trains for STRENGTH he never cuts so he isn’t vascular he trains for function not looks and is one of if not the strongest guys in the lockerroom
Disco is right. As far as American wrestling goes it doesn’t matter how hot wrestling is in England or Japan. It’s at a major low point in the US.