The bad guy with the grenade on stairs happened. Caused controversy as well. The media were asking, "Why does he have so many bullets in him? It must have been an execution!" No, it just that 3 or 4 operators saw the threat independently of each other, and they all took action at the same time. John McAleese described it best, "when theres a situation like that, it's no good looking at each other, wondering who's gonna deal with it. So we all shot him."
@@stanmil5495 72 sounds realistic if we're talking about multiple operators opening fire at the same time, at the end of the day they are tier 1 outfitters and should only be called into action in a "any means" situation what happened happened if people wanna cry about particulars let the British police deal with it next time and see how that plays out 😂
Yep yep this. Also to clarify the extraction, 1 hostage was killed trying to exfil with hostages and 1 xray did in fact make it outside to the lawn. He was identified and led away by one of the SAS team. That member returned alone a few seconds later. This was investigated. However as Thatcher had given the order of ' no terrorist is to leave ' iirc no action was taken. I saw this unfold as a kid, it started my fascination with the SAS.
@@GreymanGhost You are wrong, one terrorist made it to the lawn and was being taken away by one of the the team and another operator asked him where he was taking him. We all know why he was being taken away. But the operator said to the guy taking him away, we need to keep him here. The terrorist spent years in jail and was released a few years ago. He was the only terrorist to survive the incident
@@overthewebb Agree. The operator that said we need to keep him here was aware of the number of cameras from around the world that were focused on them. The terrorist was sentenced to life imprisonment but was released in 2008 under licence. He apparently remains in the UK today under a new identity.
@FNGACADEMY surprisingly the MP5 jammed and he immediately switched to his sidearm this is a technique the SAS drill constantly to immediately switch between weapons within micro seconds and fortunately it saved his life he talked about it in an interview years later on Panorama a British show.
Two hostages were killed. One prior to, one during the assault. One terrorist survived and was only recently released from prison. He (like the guy killed on the stairs) chickened out and pretended to be a hostage. When he was zip-tied and put on his belly (like all the hostages until positive IDs were made) he was identified as a hostile by the hostages. Rumour has it that an SAS operator picked him up and started to lead him back indoors, with the intention of executing him, before a fellow operator pointed out there were cameras on them and he was reluctantly returned to the lawn and arrested. PM Margaret Thatcher and her husband Dennis later visited the SAS team at Hyde Park Barracks to congratulate them for a job well done. Operators "Snapper" and John McAleese remember Dennis joking "Well done chaps, but you let one of the bastards live."
Listened to a podcast the last week saying the terrorist that was released has been given flat in London and is on full benefits. The county is f***** .
21:36 I googled it, and several sources, but not all mention the mp5 jammed on Palmer. Crazy stuff happens that is hard to believe, even for movies sometimes.
Famously The PM said she didn’t want this to be an on going problem. Which was taken to mean no terrorist survivors, only the fact that a tv helicopter saw them walk the suspect back towards the building meant he got to live.
@Thetasigmaalpha The surviving terrorists name is Fowzi Nejad. He was one of a group seeking independence for Khuzestan province, an oil rich part of southern Iran whose population are mainly Iranian Arabs. The Revolutionary Government of Iran brutally suppressed demonstrations for Independence and jailed many of the protesters. The group that Nejad joined were nationalists, not hard core terrorists like Isis, who foolishly decided to go down the terrorist path. The Iranian government still suppress the people of Khuzestan and anyone else who dares to challenge the Iranian government in any way. As can be seen by their recent brutal treatment of women who wanted to dress in a more western way. After the siege was ended Nejad was given a life sentence in prison. After 27 years he was released. Normally foreign prisoners are immediately deported, but because Iran would not guarantee his safety he was allowed to stay in the UK. The UK will not deport anyone to a country where that person may be sentenced to death. Because of the nature of his offence he was not granted asylum in the UK, though for practical purposes he was. Which probably means he is not allowed to work. Which in turn means he was getting benefit and assistance with his housing and council taxes from the State. As he is now in his mid sixties he may now receive the State Pension or Pension Credit. It would be a rather sad empty life for him, as although he gets just enough to live on, there would be lots of restrictions on his life.
Thanks Tyler!, great to see you! Daughter and I rented this last weekend after Tyler and Bucks review, Part 1. It was an excellent movie after real events! We made mock margaritas from Miller Highlife beer, lime juice and agave syrup to taste and ate home made keto white pizza with greens and garlic. It was fun. Came back to say, hit that thumbs up on the program, we appreciate Tyler on with Buck, good way to show that appreciation!
It helps that there was a former SAS sergeant among the police presence who phoned the SAS officers mess before the government actually called them in, and said something along the lines of "your probably going to get called in for this, be ready" so the 2 teams that were taking part were already waiting with their gear to be called in when the government actually called them in
Seen this movie so many times and I can’t get enough of the documentaries on this event. Also, so down to see Tyler and Sean talk about raids in history. Love the content, looking forward to the next best thing. 🤙
Reminds me of hearing Billy Billingham talk about how the fact that you're in the unit means your opinion is worth hearing if it weren't you wouldn't be there.
Tyler is awesome, any show with him is great, it would be good to see him breakdown some of the more mission centric episodes of The Unit with you guys too
The big mistake in this movie which former SAS has said is that on the actual mission there was a whole squadron on that mission I.e 50+ soldiers, whereas this movie it only involves around 6-7 soldiers.
A lot were on surveillance, intel and back up. They had contingencies Down the street if anyone was to escape. I believe they even had some guys at the airport in case they managed to get there.
20:28 If memory serves the operators glove got caught in the ascender. One interesting fact about this specific operation is that this one was the first time the general public became aware of the existence of the Special Air Service, up until this point in time they had pretty much managed to keep it out of public knowledge, I've listened to a lot of interviews given by the operators who took part in operation Nimrod and it's a very interesting and fascinating insight into what and why things were done and what happened during that time frame.
The stairwell grenade scene absolutely happened but also true that one X-ray made it onto the lawn. When the SAS found in on the grass they were going to drag him back into the embassy to finish the job but were stopped by some other operator as there was too many police, tv cameras, witnesses.
Tyler is right about the guy on the stairs, he was pushed towards one of the other ops who made the recognition and fired, i think i heard that another op shot him as well at bottom of stairs before checking grenade. As for the other terrorist that Buck mentioned.....everybody that was evacuated was ziptied on lawn outside until they could be ID'd. Some of the hostages were yelling that one of the terrorists was there, so they grabbed him. There was unofficial rumour that the boys were going to take him back into the building to finish the job but the news cameras were watching. That of course is completely denied. That guy from the lawn was the only survivor of the terrorist group and went to prison
I think I heard that the stairs guy was identified by the hostages and taken out, and the lawn one was identified after he was zip tied. I may be wrong but that’s just what I heard
I believe the stairs guy was identified by the hostages before being thrown down the stairs after they saw the grenade he was holding. The story goes that he then proceeded to get mag-dumped by three of the operatives.
The opinion on full auto is quite interesting and understandable. Beside that I also think the nature of CQB with hostage reacue also leans more on full auto as time is an important factor here combinded with faster neutralization of enemy while using 9mm.
@@MrCashewkitty That's also right but in his case he might be using MK18 or other such short carbines not standard M4 type carbine, so their is that. I can't pin point the interview but it was said that during the Iraq insurgency the door kicking operations went through the roof so that every type of SF unit was doing it. During these times Rangers transformed into a tier 1 unit being a middle ground between conventional and SF units. While at the same time Green Berets were also operating at high tempo in Afghanistan. So at such times one also feels to get the mission over as quickly as possible as there are more targets to hit and there is not enough manpower or time. So such decisions can be taken as they have a higher skill ceiling. Not everyone can do this he is one of those exceptions.
@@TakNuke flupping to FA in a kill house with a rifle would get them shown the door . The mp5 was used like this, with safety off. The safety off still lingered around certain units but its asinine by 99%, including the tier 1 units that ive seen respond to it. Ive got the FA question sent out to guys from both T1 units that answer questions via DM. Ill bet money that they all say not a chance
@@MrCashewkitty He is an exception as he mentioned that his unit used suppressor which reduces the weight of fire affect while using in semi-auto when you are less in numbers while facing non suppressed ak's. He said that he can control full auto so why not use it to expedite that procedure as now room clearing has been slowed down to avoid casualties vs how it was in early days, so one has to save time somewhere. Beside that he also mentions that he will switch to semi auto if there were enemies present along with hostages. This is like MAC-V and SASR units which used full auto short barrel battle rifles like M15 and FAL to produce an image of being a larger unit when in heavy contact with VC and NVA.
@@TakNuke the Unit has THE highest safety standards in the world. Guys get canned for NDs, shooting no shoots, or any safety violation. Hell, they uses frangible ammo in the shoot house. He was not using auto with a rifle on any DA missions. He may on his own time. Theres tons of video out there from both units. Not once do you see it. Also, why would a mk18 be better for auto than an m4? Its worse.
I house sitted for a guy that I was told was in the "British Army" all I was told. In one of his living rooms he had a glass case display....."Y'all following me"? There was a newspaper that had the iranian embassy seige on newspaper. Looked pretty original this was near Robertson CO. TN. Beautiful house. The guy never bragged about anything. But that display case had old school SAS written all over it.
I agree that a plan is a "list of things that dont happen". In the UK we say that "no plan survives first contact", that being said a strong plan makes sure everybody understands the end goal and ensures we have considered all the different ways we can achieve it, making on the spot decision making easier.
"work from the top down" I heard it all the time, growing up in South London. In the early 70s-80s Rusty firmin came from a working class family so makes perfect sense.
This was a great episode and breakdown guys. And we now have Tyler "Full Auto"Grey...fantastic. Yes to Great Raids in history, my pick is The Raid on Entebbe.
In the Landshut 737 Kidnapping, all of the operators and hostages survived the operation. Three hostages and one operator were wounded and one of the pilots killed before. Can be a fluke or the special environment of a small plane, but the GSG 9 pulled it off with the help of 2 SAS advisers.
I was 10 when this happened, and like millions of others I watched it live on television. In the UK at the time we had just three television channels. BBC1 was showing the final of the World Snooker Championships. BBC2 was showing a John Wayne western (that's what we were watching). ITV were showing an episode of the long running soap opera Coronation Street, and they refused to switch to the embassy footage until Coronation Street had finished. Kate Adie (played by Abboe Cornish in the film) was the BBC commentator during the attack and would later get shot in the elbow during the Tiemnaman (spelling) Square massacre in 1989. The whole country was walking on air the next day.
yes the stairs bit happened and one xray made it outside with the hostages was spotted n was being dragged back in the building to finish the job, was only stopped because of the media that was around also i think someone did have a jam on entry and had to do rest of op with his browning
The last terrorist got out of the building. He was imprisoned after a trial, but when he was identified in the embassy garden the SAS operator were going to take him back inside and finish him off. They stopped because they were under observation from TV cameras.
Two requests - please react to Starship Troopers (for the sheer comedy) and react to Aliens (for the sheer nostalgia). I’m a retired Army vet and I love watching your channel.
A friend of mine serving in the army many years ago was on leave one weekend was asked if he had plans fir the weekend. When he said no was asked if he'd be interested in taking part in a training exercise when told he could go in civvy clothes and tgere would be food kaid on and a few beers he agreed. He was sat in a train carriage in an isolated location for a few hours enjoying a beer and eating and chatting with other soldiers waiting to do the training exercise when a hammer tied to a rope came flying through the window and the next few minutes a blur. It was an sas exercise. He said one of the sas was cut entering through the window so they did a blood transfusion there and then. He was zip tied and on the floor in minutes. This was over 30 years ago.
One got caught and killed similar to the video. The guy who got out side with the hostages some of the sas were walking him back into the building " for some reason" and were stopped and he was arrested instead.
when it comes to shooting, the two loudest sounds your weapon can make is click when it's supposed to go bang, and bang when its supposed to not go bang.
Great content and amazing to have Tyler back! By the way, Sean would you mind to explain why you should make some kind of circles when shooting a moving target? Thanks !!
The siege didn't last 30 days, the film title kind of gives it away at 6 days. There where two hostages kill but both where killed before the rescue commenced. The reporter you see in the clips is Kate Adie that was here big brake as well she became the Chief News Correspondent for the BBC and mainly reported on war zones
Both the man on the stairs and One got out with the hostages but the team noticed there was 1 hostage to many and the hostages pointed out the territorest
That would cool. Love the channel. I wish you guys could bring Larry Vickers love that guy he was a former operator with CAG in the 80s-90s and took part in the rescue of an American in Panama.
Thanks for another great video. You even managed to get away with a couple of swears...nice. If you're looking for a war movie to review that's a little bit different, I'd recommend an Aussie movie called "The Odd Angry Shot". It's about the SASR in the Vietnam war. Not a big budget movie but a good representation of Australian army humour. Peace🤙
I had watched this movie some time ago. I didn’t appreciate it at the time. After your explanation of the tactics, I have a better understanding of it. I do remember when this happened.
When I was a Kid I had a subscription to Combat Missions Magazine and there was an article in one of the issues about dealing with threats in buildings and it said Always attack from the top of the building down as it's a bad idea to fight up where the bad guys get trapped like rats and fight to the death. This was sometime in the mid 80's and it's something I've taken away from them since that time.
Yeah, it was part of British Army Doctrine from post-WW2 through the 80s to attack top down whenever possible for the reasons you said. You can see old training videos where they'd have an MG cover the main exit and the soldiers in the building would shoot through walls and floors on the way down to force the occupiers into the street for the MG crew to take them out. The main problem which was covered as part of the instruction was the fact that it is time consuming and requires a lot of coordination
In the video game America's army the US army's official video game there's actually a mission where they say fight down where you have to gain entry at the top of the building and then fight your way down and it's an old video game from the early 2000s
Hey, I'm 17, scored really well on my ASVAB, and I'm seeking an option 40 infantry contract. My family is telling me to just choose something smart or technical, and that would set me up better for life after the army. I'm supposed to go to meps in about 2 weeks but now I'm having doubts on if this is the right mos. Any advice?
Larry Vickers said in his Sicario review that full-auto in CQB was a bad idea. Curious what Tyler's take on this is (as a fellow Delta guy). Larry was referring to the scene where Emily Blunt uses full auto in the opening scene in the house.
The rappeller got stuck because the SAS purchased some extra climbing rope locally, of a type they hadn’t used before for this task. The rope expanded under the heat of friction during the descent, and this jammed the descender.
The eye contact moment on the stairs absolutely happened. I think I heard one of them say it on TV or id heard it from a friend who was one point of contact from the horses mouth like an SBS lad, but I do know it happened
Yes, I want to see a review of famous Raids. Please talk about the Son Tay Raid, The Entebbe Raid ( I loved the movie "Raid on Entebbe) and the Kurt Muse Rescue during the Panama invasion. It would be great to get the perspective from Operators.
The SAS did deploy CS gas, John Mac who deployed the window frame charge and was 30cm/6in from the detonation threw up three times in his mask and had to clear it due to the inhalation of the gas. The primary rescue targets were PC John Lock and the BBC journalist. Mac said with the maglites on their MP5 was you aimed down the light and squeezed and made sure you put them down. The guy with the grenade was shot with 120ish rounds from 3 SAS so they reloaded. The one that got out and was later identified by the cuffed hostages was being taken back in the building but a news helicopter was overhead. During the immediate debrief Mac said Dennis Thatcher said “shame you missed one”
The trooper standing behind rusty saw the grenade and butted his gun to the back of the terrorist’s head while warning rusty who then opened up on the guy. It took seconds but the producers spun it out longer. Rusty firmin spoke about the scene in a podcast .I believe the trooper who hit the terrorist was John macaleese ( Mac in the film ) .
To the best of my knowledge, they were already at Hereford practicing as usual. When they got the call to be involved. But there is a lot of stuff out there about the siege, so I could be wrong. But as I understood, they didn't have time to build a full-scale model. They only had lines on the floor. Like looking at something from a bird's-eye view. But I could be wrong.But they got access to the blue prints and help from a janitor oar caretaker or something. One thing that truly impresses me is,they had to memorize every hostage face and name.So in order not to shot them by accident. That! is truly impressive.Remembering that all that chaos .
HELL YES!!!! Absolutely Buck and Tyler “Famous raids in history” im here for it 1,000,000%
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If I ever found a woman that look at me the way Buck looks at Tyler. I would know I'm her dream man.
That cracked me up 👍
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Not nice, but 100% true.
Looks at him like Papi Chulo.😂
You seriously need coming out the closet.
I'm sure most cognizant people would be in awe at a Tier One Operator as well.
The bad guy with the grenade on stairs happened. Caused controversy as well. The media were asking, "Why does he have so many bullets in him? It must have been an execution!" No, it just that 3 or 4 operators saw the threat independently of each other, and they all took action at the same time. John McAleese described it best, "when theres a situation like that, it's no good looking at each other, wondering who's gonna deal with it. So we all shot him."
This is cool to know. Thanks for the info.
Sources vary from 28 rounds to 72
@stanmil5495 it's different every time you read about it, isn't it?
I read that they were thinking about pulling the terrorist who escaped back into the building to end him too before they saw all the press
@@stanmil5495 72 sounds realistic if we're talking about multiple operators opening fire at the same time, at the end of the day they are tier 1 outfitters and should only be called into action in a "any means" situation what happened happened if people wanna cry about particulars let the British police deal with it next time and see how that plays out 😂
My mate was on that balcony. Ok it was a few days later and he was fitting replacement windows, but still….
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Yes, the MP-5 malfunction actually happened .. the receiver was warped by the heat from the room he was in prior to this one and failed to fire.
Yep yep this. Also to clarify the extraction, 1 hostage was killed trying to exfil with hostages and 1 xray did in fact make it outside to the lawn. He was identified and led away by one of the SAS team. That member returned alone a few seconds later. This was investigated. However as Thatcher had given the order of ' no terrorist is to leave ' iirc no action was taken.
I saw this unfold as a kid, it started my fascination with the SAS.
@@GreymanGhost You are wrong, one terrorist made it to the lawn and was being taken away by one of the the team and another operator asked him where he was taking him. We all know why he was being taken away. But the operator said to the guy taking him away, we need to keep him here. The terrorist spent years in jail and was released a few years ago. He was the only terrorist to survive the incident
@@overthewebb Agree. The operator that said we need to keep him here was aware of the number of cameras from around the world that were focused on them. The terrorist was sentenced to life imprisonment but was released in 2008 under licence. He apparently remains in the UK today under a new identity.
Tyler: Full auto all day... Sean: Show off...
lmao!
Full auto with an mp5/mp7/p90, sure. Not with rifles
@@MrCashewkitty Mister Cashew Kitty has spoken. Who else would know more than a Delta operator...
@@MrTommyprochy theres plenty of other former Unit guys you can ask about that if you care to.
@FNGACADEMY surprisingly the MP5 jammed and he immediately switched to his sidearm this is a technique the SAS drill constantly to immediately switch between weapons within micro seconds and fortunately it saved his life he talked about it in an interview years later on Panorama a British show.
Two hostages were killed. One prior to, one during the assault. One terrorist survived and was only recently released from prison. He (like the guy killed on the stairs) chickened out and pretended to be a hostage. When he was zip-tied and put on his belly (like all the hostages until positive IDs were made) he was identified as a hostile by the hostages. Rumour has it that an SAS operator picked him up and started to lead him back indoors, with the intention of executing him, before a fellow operator pointed out there were cameras on them and he was reluctantly returned to the lawn and arrested. PM Margaret Thatcher and her husband Dennis later visited the SAS team at Hyde Park Barracks to congratulate them for a job well done. Operators "Snapper" and John McAleese remember Dennis joking "Well done chaps, but you let one of the bastards live."
Listened to a podcast the last week saying the terrorist that was released has been given flat in London and is on full benefits. The county is f***** .
So glad you guys took the time to go in depth with this one! This is seriously an underrated movie!
21:36 I googled it, and several sources, but not all mention the mp5 jammed on Palmer. Crazy stuff happens that is hard to believe, even for movies sometimes.
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Famously The PM said she didn’t want this to be an on going problem. Which was taken to mean no terrorist survivors, only the fact that a tv helicopter saw them walk the suspect back towards the building meant he got to live.
And now that guy has a rent-free flat in South london. (According to the daily mail, at least)
@@JFBD1999he may have a rent free flat but I doubt he is still around to enjoy it 😂😂😂
@@RossNaylor-uq4jpHe is (UK governments are weak)
@Thetasigmaalpha The surviving terrorists name is Fowzi Nejad. He was one of a group seeking independence for Khuzestan province, an oil rich part of southern Iran whose population are mainly Iranian Arabs. The Revolutionary Government of Iran brutally suppressed demonstrations for Independence and jailed many of the protesters. The group that Nejad joined were nationalists, not hard core terrorists like Isis, who foolishly decided to go down the terrorist path. The Iranian government still suppress the people of Khuzestan and anyone else who dares to challenge the Iranian government in any way. As can be seen by their recent brutal treatment of women who wanted to dress in a more western way.
After the siege was ended Nejad was given a life sentence in prison. After 27 years he was released. Normally foreign prisoners are immediately deported, but because Iran would not guarantee his safety he was allowed to stay in the UK. The UK will not deport anyone to a country where that person may be sentenced to death. Because of the nature of his offence he was not granted asylum in the UK, though for practical purposes he was. Which probably means he is not allowed to work. Which in turn means he was getting benefit and assistance with his housing and council taxes from the State. As he is now in his mid sixties he may now receive the State Pension or Pension Credit. It would be a rather sad empty life for him, as although he gets just enough to live on, there would be lots of restrictions on his life.
@@JFBD1999 So do I! So do all pensioners who rely just on the State Pension.
100% I'm tuning in to the new show
Thank you guys for all the awesome work you do
This was fantastic
Awesome! Thank you!
Thanks Tyler!, great to see you!
Daughter and I rented this last weekend after Tyler and Bucks review, Part 1. It was an excellent movie after real events!
We made mock margaritas from Miller Highlife beer, lime juice and agave syrup to taste and ate home made keto white pizza with greens and garlic. It was fun.
Came back to say, hit that thumbs up on the program, we appreciate Tyler on with Buck, good way to show that appreciation!
thank you!!
Historical raids: Navigating the gray area with Tyler Grey
It helps that there was a former SAS sergeant among the police presence who phoned the SAS officers mess before the government actually called them in, and said something along the lines of "your probably going to get called in for this, be ready" so the 2 teams that were taking part were already waiting with their gear to be called in when the government actually called them in
Source?
Seen this movie so many times and I can’t get enough of the documentaries on this event. Also, so down to see Tyler and Sean talk about raids in history. Love the content, looking forward to the next best thing. 🤙
Reminds me of hearing Billy Billingham talk about how the fact that you're in the unit means your opinion is worth hearing if it weren't you wouldn't be there.
Thank you for the review because i didnt even know the film existed, and man was i really happy i watched this one.
that was asmooth episode transition from part 1 to part 2 kudos!
Yes please make that show a thing. Really enjoyed this reaction.
I was waiting for this. Thanks for posting.
"My plan is a list of things that don't happen" Greatest thing I heard in awhile
23:47 Best full auto endorsement.
Tyler is awesome, any show with him is great, it would be good to see him breakdown some of the more mission centric episodes of The Unit with you guys too
24:43 i learned to control full auto from day 1. But that's the CAF.
The big mistake in this movie which former SAS has said is that on the actual mission there was a whole squadron on that mission I.e 50+ soldiers, whereas this movie it only involves around 6-7 soldiers.
A lot were on surveillance, intel and back up. They had contingencies Down the street if anyone was to escape. I believe they even had some guys at the airport in case they managed to get there.
@@katyg3873 no I’m saying there were a whole squadron on that raid. Considering there were tons of rooms to clear bit does seem believable.
Last time you missed the incursion , thank god you are gonna review it , awesome operation 😊😊
Love when Tyler is on the show. You'd never know the guy was a badass hitter by how soft spoken he is. Can't wait til they have him back!
26:51 Btw guys one of the SAS Operators who made entry worked on this film to make sure the events were as accurate as possible
20:28 If memory serves the operators glove got caught in the ascender. One interesting fact about this specific operation is that this one was the first time the general public became aware of the existence of the Special Air Service, up until this point in time they had pretty much managed to keep it out of public knowledge, I've listened to a lot of interviews given by the operators who took part in operation Nimrod and it's a very interesting and fascinating insight into what and why things were done and what happened during that time frame.
"Always fight down" I first saw this concept in the sci-fi book Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. Its a good read. Great content. Keep it up.
It was part of British Army doctrine for house clearing (FIBUA).
Intelligent, insightful and authoritative. Excellent job gents. Regards from the UK.
The stairwell grenade scene absolutely happened but also true that one X-ray made it onto the lawn. When the SAS found in on the grass they were going to drag him back into the embassy to finish the job but were stopped by some other operator as there was too many police, tv cameras, witnesses.
Awesome to have Badasses like you guys on our side! Thanks!
Tyler looks like he could be Sean's older brother. Is that why you got your hair cut?😅
God damn that’s funny. 😂
Lmfao 😂
He does look like the older brother than gives noogies and puts his finger under his nose after Sean takes a bite of Chex.
Tyler is right about the guy on the stairs, he was pushed towards one of the other ops who made the recognition and fired, i think i heard that another op shot him as well at bottom of stairs before checking grenade. As for the other terrorist that Buck mentioned.....everybody that was evacuated was ziptied on lawn outside until they could be ID'd. Some of the hostages were yelling that one of the terrorists was there, so they grabbed him. There was unofficial rumour that the boys were going to take him back into the building to finish the job but the news cameras were watching. That of course is completely denied. That guy from the lawn was the only survivor of the terrorist group and went to prison
I think I heard that the stairs guy was identified by the hostages and taken out, and the lawn one was identified after he was zip tied. I may be wrong but that’s just what I heard
Lawn guy lives in anonymity in North London having served his sentence 😖
I believe the stairs guy was identified by the hostages before being thrown down the stairs after they saw the grenade he was holding. The story goes that he then proceeded to get mag-dumped by three of the operatives.
Aye and we are paying his rent and benefits😬😡@@damienolympia3702
The opinion on full auto is quite interesting and understandable. Beside that I also think the nature of CQB with hostage reacue also leans more on full auto as time is an important factor here combinded with faster neutralization of enemy while using 9mm.
Sub guns yes, rifles no
@@MrCashewkitty That's also right but in his case he might be using MK18 or other such short carbines not standard M4 type carbine, so their is that. I can't pin point the interview but it was said that during the Iraq insurgency the door kicking operations went through the roof so that every type of SF unit was doing it. During these times Rangers transformed into a tier 1 unit being a middle ground between conventional and SF units. While at the same time Green Berets were also operating at high tempo in Afghanistan. So at such times one also feels to get the mission over as quickly as possible as there are more targets to hit and there is not enough manpower or time. So such decisions can be taken as they have a higher skill ceiling. Not everyone can do this he is one of those exceptions.
@@TakNuke flupping to FA in a kill house with a rifle would get them shown the door . The mp5 was used like this, with safety off. The safety off still lingered around certain units but its asinine by 99%, including the tier 1 units that ive seen respond to it. Ive got the FA question sent out to guys from both T1 units that answer questions via DM. Ill bet money that they all say not a chance
@@MrCashewkitty He is an exception as he mentioned that his unit used suppressor which reduces the weight of fire affect while using in semi-auto when you are less in numbers while facing non suppressed ak's. He said that he can control full auto so why not use it to expedite that procedure as now room clearing has been slowed down to avoid casualties vs how it was in early days, so one has to save time somewhere. Beside that he also mentions that he will switch to semi auto if there were enemies present along with hostages. This is like MAC-V and SASR units which used full auto short barrel battle rifles like M15 and FAL to produce an image of being a larger unit when in heavy contact with VC and NVA.
@@TakNuke the Unit has THE highest safety standards in the world. Guys get canned for NDs, shooting no shoots, or any safety violation. Hell, they uses frangible ammo in the shoot house. He was not using auto with a rifle on any DA missions. He may on his own time. Theres tons of video out there from both units. Not once do you see it. Also, why would a mk18 be better for auto than an m4? Its worse.
I house sitted for a guy that I was told was in the "British Army" all I was told. In one of his living rooms he had a glass case display....."Y'all following me"? There was a newspaper that had the iranian embassy seige on newspaper. Looked pretty original this was near Robertson CO. TN. Beautiful house. The guy never bragged about anything. But that display case had old school SAS written all over it.
I agree that a plan is a "list of things that dont happen". In the UK we say that "no plan survives first contact", that being said a strong plan makes sure everybody understands the end goal and ensures we have considered all the different ways we can achieve it, making on the spot decision making easier.
11:00 It was a 5 day siege, the SAS raid was on the 6th day. Great video, enjoyed it thoroughly!
thank you!
"work from the top down"
I heard it all the time, growing up in South London. In the early 70s-80s
Rusty firmin came from a working class family so makes perfect sense.
This was a great episode and breakdown guys.
And we now have Tyler "Full Auto"Grey...fantastic.
Yes to Great Raids in history, my pick is The Raid on Entebbe.
In the Landshut 737 Kidnapping, all of the operators and hostages survived the operation. Three hostages and one operator were wounded and one of the pilots killed before. Can be a fluke or the special environment of a small plane, but the GSG 9 pulled it off with the help of 2 SAS advisers.
Really want to see a B&B of Predator. Such an accurate depiction of the first time the US Green Berets took down an alien predator!
I was 10 when this happened, and like millions of others I watched it live on television. In the UK at the time we had just three television channels. BBC1 was showing the final of the World Snooker Championships. BBC2 was showing a John Wayne western (that's what we were watching). ITV were showing an episode of the long running soap opera Coronation Street, and they refused to switch to the embassy footage until Coronation Street had finished.
Kate Adie (played by Abboe Cornish in the film) was the BBC commentator during the attack and would later get shot in the elbow during the Tiemnaman (spelling) Square massacre in 1989.
The whole country was walking on air the next day.
yes the stairs bit happened and one xray made it outside with the hostages was spotted n was being dragged back in the building to finish the job, was only stopped because of the media that was around
also i think someone did have a jam on entry and had to do rest of op with his browning
Yes!!! That show idea rocks!!! Please do it!!!
The last terrorist got out of the building. He was imprisoned after a trial, but when he was identified in the embassy garden the SAS operator were going to take him back inside and finish him off. They stopped because they were under observation from TV cameras.
I am excited that you guys are working on a show. It sounds great.
💯 Would totally watch a series with you guys breaking down missions or CQB or hostage rescues. Military history and tactics
When’s the next restock of the Ruck trainer and its add ons? Also any update on the boots?
Two requests - please react to Starship Troopers (for the sheer comedy) and react to Aliens (for the sheer nostalgia). I’m a retired Army vet and I love watching your channel.
Famous raids in History, YES PLEASE!
Great review BTW.
A friend of mine serving in the army many years ago was on leave one weekend was asked if he had plans fir the weekend. When he said no was asked if he'd be interested in taking part in a training exercise when told he could go in civvy clothes and tgere would be food kaid on and a few beers he agreed. He was sat in a train carriage in an isolated location for a few hours enjoying a beer and eating and chatting with other soldiers waiting to do the training exercise when a hammer tied to a rope came flying through the window and the next few minutes a blur. It was an sas exercise. He said one of the sas was cut entering through the window so they did a blood transfusion there and then. He was zip tied and on the floor in minutes. This was over 30 years ago.
Is that Billy Elliot the SAS in the movie ? 😅
Jamie Bell
One got caught and killed similar to the video. The guy who got out side with the hostages some of the sas were walking him back into the building " for some reason" and were stopped and he was arrested instead.
I was REALLY hoping for a part two! 🇬🇧
I’m excited for the new show can’t wait!
when it comes to shooting, the two loudest sounds your weapon can make is click when it's supposed to go bang, and bang when its supposed to not go bang.
Great content and amazing to have Tyler back! By the way, Sean would you mind to explain why you should make some kind of circles when shooting a moving target? Thanks !!
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The siege didn't last 30 days, the film title kind of gives it away at 6 days. There where two hostages kill but both where killed before the rescue commenced. The reporter you see in the clips is Kate Adie that was here big brake as well she became the Chief News Correspondent for the BBC and mainly reported on war zones
Both the man on the stairs and
One got out with the hostages but the team noticed there was 1 hostage to many and the hostages pointed out the territorest
Tyler, is there going to be a season 7 of seal team? 🔱🤞🤞🤞
Love these two and this breakdown. Also, any word on what happened to Buck's arm?
That would cool. Love the channel. I wish you guys could bring Larry Vickers love that guy he was a former operator with CAG in the 80s-90s and took part in the rescue of an American in Panama.
Yeah before he goes to jail
Thanks for another great video. You even managed to get away with a couple of swears...nice.
If you're looking for a war movie to review that's a little bit different, I'd recommend an Aussie movie called "The Odd Angry Shot". It's about the SASR in the Vietnam war. Not a big budget movie but a good representation of Australian army humour.
Peace🤙
I had watched this movie some time ago. I didn’t appreciate it at the time. After your explanation of the tactics, I have a better understanding of it. I do remember when this happened.
When I was a Kid I had a subscription to Combat Missions Magazine and there was an article in one of the issues about dealing with threats in buildings and it said Always attack from the top of the building down as it's a bad idea to fight up where the bad guys get trapped like rats and fight to the death. This was sometime in the mid 80's and it's something I've taken away from them since that time.
Yeah, it was part of British Army Doctrine from post-WW2 through the 80s to attack top down whenever possible for the reasons you said. You can see old training videos where they'd have an MG cover the main exit and the soldiers in the building would shoot through walls and floors on the way down to force the occupiers into the street for the MG crew to take them out. The main problem which was covered as part of the instruction was the fact that it is time consuming and requires a lot of coordination
Tyler: “Semi-auto is for people who can’t handle full auto”
The Internet: “OOOOOOOOOOOOH”
Full auto is for people who lack skill
In the video game America's army the US army's official video game there's actually a mission where they say fight down where you have to gain entry at the top of the building and then fight your way down and it's an old video game from the early 2000s
"A plan is a list of things that dont happen". That needs to go on a T-shirt.
Yes. An official FNG merch T-shirt of this would be awesome
Enjoying the duo, would like to see more!
Now that you've done this, consider watching the actual footage. Even though it's early 80s live TV it truly is the first viral clip
Here's another good one, the book was too, Savages with Taylor Kitsch
The first time the oublic had really seen the SAS, and aa tyler said, this was the start of CT teams in SF
Hey, I'm 17, scored really well on my ASVAB, and I'm seeking an option 40 infantry contract. My family is telling me to just choose something smart or technical, and that would set me up better for life after the army. I'm supposed to go to meps in about 2 weeks but now I'm having doubts on if this is the right mos. Any advice?
Solid episode. 👍 👍. CQB show? Yessir.
Not sure if you review this movie or not,but I would love to see you guys do crimson tide. One of my favorite movies
Larry Vickers said in his Sicario review that full-auto in CQB was a bad idea.
Curious what Tyler's take on this is (as a fellow Delta guy).
Larry was referring to the scene where Emily Blunt uses full auto in the opening scene in the house.
Part 2 of 6 Days? Heck yeah!!🥳
Oh please yes for the show idea
The rappeller got stuck because the SAS purchased some extra climbing rope locally, of a type they hadn’t used before for this task. The rope expanded under the heat of friction during the descent, and this jammed the descender.
Great job guys
Good film 🎥
The eye contact moment on the stairs absolutely happened. I think I heard one of them say it on TV or id heard it from a friend who was one point of contact from the horses mouth like an SBS lad, but I do know it happened
Great idea for a show
filming next month
Part 2. Lets gooooo!!🎉
Remember watching it live on tv when it happened. They stopped everything and cut to this
Yes, I want to see a review of famous Raids. Please talk about the Son Tay Raid, The Entebbe Raid ( I loved the movie "Raid on Entebbe) and the Kurt Muse Rescue during the Panama invasion. It would be great to get the perspective from Operators.
Was he not the actor in SEALS? Good show - not sure what happened to it.
The SAS did deploy CS gas, John Mac who deployed the window frame charge and was 30cm/6in from the detonation threw up three times in his mask and had to clear it due to the inhalation of the gas.
The primary rescue targets were PC John Lock and the BBC journalist.
Mac said with the maglites on their MP5 was you aimed down the light and squeezed and made sure you put them down.
The guy with the grenade was shot with 120ish rounds from 3 SAS so they reloaded.
The one that got out and was later identified by the cuffed hostages was being taken back in the building but a news helicopter was overhead.
During the immediate debrief Mac said Dennis Thatcher said “shame you missed one”
PC Trevor Lock.
Does delta work with 22SAS?
23:00 That did happen
The trooper standing behind rusty saw the grenade and butted his gun to the back of the terrorist’s head while warning rusty who then opened up on the guy. It took seconds but the producers spun it out longer. Rusty firmin spoke about the scene in a podcast .I believe the trooper who hit the terrorist was John macaleese ( Mac in the film ) .
Awesome show idea!
To the best of my knowledge, they were already at Hereford practicing as usual. When they got the call to be involved. But there is a lot of stuff out there about the siege, so I could be wrong. But as I understood, they didn't have time to build a full-scale model. They only had lines on the floor. Like looking at something from a bird's-eye view. But I could be wrong.But they got access to the blue prints and help from a janitor oar caretaker or something.
One thing that truly impresses me is,they had to memorize every hostage face and name.So in order not to shot them by accident. That! is truly impressive.Remembering that all that chaos .
They look versions of each other like him and hims 😂 it's like father and son
The gun jamming on the first round was true. I remember one of the guys talking about it in an interview.
When I was in the British Army soldiers encouraged to say " So what?" At any juncture when plans were being made. Ian Dee. (Bit of a Remf.)
1997 Mogadishu, I think. No operator and hostages lost in the rescue.
Yes and please analyse Op Barras
you guys have the mojo. please get that show done!