Attention to detail. The girl played a huge role in the movie, they needed her to be in the dark about everything. She was their "get out of jail free card" their rules of engagement to every mission they did was not by the book.
They were CIA and its against US law for them to run ops within our borders. Having FBI there, clueless or not, gives an out to call it an FBI op, and not a CIA op.
if it was the smell it would have been making them puke on entry. walls don't seal perfectly. and they would have been puking at the front door just inside later when going back through. but they weren't.
I've been in Mexico for the last 20 years, the most realistic scene to me was the one where she's on the roof watching the gunfights across the river. I've seen things like that , but I've never seen the narcos use tracers. One time I was driving at night in Nuevo Laredo back to my hotel after buying a Malinois puppy in Texas, and a Tropa del Infierno convoy crossed an intersection a block up and came past me in the opposite lanes. Six armored pickups with belt fed brand new looking Browning .50 machine guns on the front and back trucks. I'm not going to lie, I really was tempted to try and get a video with my cell but y'know... The bodies hanging off the bridge with the banner was pretty realistic too, If you live on the border long enough, especially around 2010-2012 you would see something like that if you went to work early enough in the morning.
I lived in Tombstone around that time and spent some time around Nogales. I learned very quickly to keep my ginger ass on the north side of the border.
Exactly. Its not the same fighting in Afghanistan where the taliban come and attack from afar as in Mexico even the state police have you identified for easy pickings before you fill your gas tank.
I worked in the oil field on the boarder and they would steal our white company trucks. use them to smuggle then drop them all off at the same location where we would pick them up stripped down. crazy shit back in 05'
They are called Narcomantas but yea you definitely do not want to get caught filming them. Depending where you are at, the Cartels have been up on tech for a long time and they actually know who is around, who is calling and texting who and if you are taking videos or whatever else, these are billion dollar organizations. Some people use vpns or they just use burner phone if they are going to specific areas where they know cell phone tracking is a common occurrence.
FBI lady's role in the movie was explained plainly by Brolin's CIA character. She was MEANT to be useless and embedded as a procedural prop until she had other ideas. Could've reacted on that interagency thing
Also been a "cop" for 10 years. It's not the sight that makes you gag or puke. It's the smell. Especially if there's a scene with multiple dead bodies that have been there for a while.... the smell is gut wrenching
I think the idea was that they were all in sealed bags. I dunno but that is the feeling you get. because they weren't puking from smell. they were puking from sight. other wise just being inside the front door would have made them puke
Bags probably ripped or aren't well covered and they were behind or inside the walls I'm sure after breaking down the walls the smell was there. Also keep in mind she found the body cus of bullet penetration so that bag is definitely ripped open@@Bellator_of_the_Shadow
I think Buck is missing how these movies work: for example, in the tunnels, they are trying to convey a sense of kinetic movement and confusion. The team has no objective to eliminate threats, or take control of the tunnels. They were sent in as a diversion force so the benecio's character can slink away. This explains why they are just looking down tunnels and firing. And Blunt's character indicates that her AR was inoperative. How does it help the movie to have her stop, slow the scene to a crawl, and do a full function test for the camera? The viewer trusts that she looked at it and saw a hole thru the receiver. Also, when the team "runs" away from her, it is more so that she was not following. That is to show the viewer that she is not part of their group both tactically nor mentally. Remember that this movie is allegorical, and she represents an unwilling and somewhat innocent conscious. Which is how the viewer is led into this movie...thru her eyes and perceptions.
I felt like the whole point of her character was that she was out of her element. It makes sense that a lot of the tactics were lost on her and she had a problem w/ the rules of engagement, since she wasnt military.
@@ConfidentMelon Exactly! "FBI is just police" is her whole character. The Bureau is filled with (sometimes literal) choir boys. Her job isn't sketchy assassinations run by CIA, it's grinding police work followed by kicking in doors.
The smell of the bodies I think is what is being sold in this scene when they open the walls up. Not from just the bodies being there making the FBI agents puke.
The dude running away in the tunnel was Benicio El Toro. The whole tunnel raid was a distraction to get Benicio's character through the tunnel so he could go kill the cartel boss. That's why he separated from the rest of the CAG guys.
@@GcD9179 Hmm. Good point. I googled. Seems like a lotta people didn't think the tunnel raid was necessary for the team's objectives below cuz Diaz was already on his way back to see Alarcon, and Benicio coming across that corrupt Mexican cop and using him to get to Diaz wasn't planned and happened on the fly: 1. Disrupt operations for US-based drug boss Manuel Díaz, so that he'll get called back to Mexico to answer to his boss, Fausto Alarcón. 2. Track Díaz when he goes there, so they can learn Alarcón's location. 3. Have Alejandro (Benicio del Toro) kill Alarcón.
Regarding the vomiting after the first raid, As a Firefighter/EMT of seven years, I have to say that sometimes a gross scene with really bad smells will cause me to have to leave the room to keep from throwing up.
That's what I was thinking, the bodies indoors like that, for potentially weeks if not months, in that heat, would stink. Wouldn't the smell be all over the house, even before they ripped through the walls? I'm sure you'd have knowledge on this, thanks.
@@richardadesmond i think in the movie they explained this by saying the bodies were wrapped in plastic bags that were vacuumed sealed and hid the bags inside the drywalls of the house
@@swuffy i have a rental business and the occupant died on the 2nd floor. the smell of the decaying body travelled through floors and walls of the structure (travelled down to the 1st floor into other units). floors are approx 8-10 inch concrete. walls are concrete block. doubtful that a sealed plastic bag would keep that odor at bay
@@tanakax25 yeah throughout he's kinda trying so hard to prove he's macho and badass (which he well is most likely) but still came off as so cringe and try hard
I love how EB played as Kate. She did it really, really well imo. Her (Kate) character was needed to be in the movie. She was scared, she was struggling, her concerns were somewhat justified. She alone was responsible for most of the suspense in this movie and it wouldn't work if she'd be simply as badass as the rest of them. There had to be some character like Kate and I think she played the role extremely well.
People forget that Kate is a law enforcement officer. Her existence revolves around the law and building cases that are going to go to trial. The CIA guys? There are no rules. They're just making shit up as they go. She reacted exactly the way an FBI agent should react. From her mindset, if they are not working towards a lawful arrest, they are not only wasting their time but, given all the laws they are breaking, also opening themselves up to criminal prosecution.
And she was there to confuse the viewer. The whole movie you might be thinking she’s gonna get her way and they’ll catch the bad guys by playing by the book but nope! You only get the bad guys by doing fucked up, illegal shit
All Emily Blunt played in this movie is encapsulated in TWO words ... INCOMPETENTLY CLUELESS !!! 😩😨😣... Practically a DIVINE miracle she didnt get fatally shot... specially in the cave tunnel scene... I felt like putting iron into her myself fpr her sheer IGNORANT NAIVITY a sif she just graduated from a convent school.
she's also a tangible reminder about how these kinds of operators played by brolin and del toro tend to treat their "assets"-- disposable. they shut her out when she won't blindly comply but happily use her as bait when convenient. kate is a great example a movie character becoming a stand-in for the audience.
100% the douche on the left with his continual misogynistic comments misses the point of her. She’s a female foil for the testosterone laden male cast, and brings the viewer down to reality. You can’t just shoot civilians as law enforcement or as military , just because you think you can. That’s why the lawyer was needed. Step off buckaroo
Her role was to be the foil, very green, by the books agent to show how far outside the box they have to go to accomplish the mission. She was the exact opposite of graver and that contrast makes it very visible. It is a very smart way of displaying the situation without having to literally say it. I hate being told what is going on, I would rather it be shown.
She is also the one through which the audience is given perspective. This is why she seems confused. She's being kept in the dark. Just like the audience.
Are they outside the box though? DoJ basically gave CIA and DoD permission to conduct operations against the cartel like they're terrorists in Afghanistan. This was all approved and sanctioned from above, with FBI in an oversight role. She could've just went along with it and everything would be legally fine. CIA, DoD, and even FBI work with bad dudes like Alejandro all the time.
One scene that stood out to me as "feeling real" was the Juarez scene when they're convoying into the city with the Mexican cops. Felt a lot like it would rolling hard and fast through a random Iraqi town with the Iraqi Army. Everything from the squelching of the radios , constantly turning your heads and having your rifle in your hands... although in our case we always alternated vehicles (Iraqi vic, U.S. vic, Iraqi vic, etc).
That was exactly what it felt like driving through towns like Gardez in the early days of Afghanistan as well as navigating around the cities of Iraq. You would be staring intently out the windows of your vehicle at everyone walking/driving around you wondering "Am I going to have to shoot you?"
Because they had to actually do that. The mistake they made was renting black suvs. Lol but they had to get permission from the local cartels too. Aint that some shit?
16:15 the method he was using was punching him in the belly with a full stomach. This instigates a gag reflex and makes the victim gag until they throw up. All the water was to help initiate the vomiting
LMFAO.. NO...... Watch again..... He recorded him drinking a bunch of water. Then came in with a 5 gallon jug, and the camera turned off. Thats for when they Waterboard him. They have an explanation for why he was full of water. Waterboarding is illegal in the US.
@@JHenkel24 There wasn't any waterboarding. I'm sure Alejandro and Josh knew it was illegal. The 5 gallon jug of water was brought in because they knew it was going to be a hell of a long night of interrogation. They anticipated a lot of bathroom breaks.
How the hell could you guys not discuss the last two scenes of the movie where Alejandro kills the drug lord and his family and then threatens to kill Kate if she doesn't sign off on the op? Both those scenes were totally fucking epic!
Bro, this isn't a training video. It's a movie. You nailed it on the tunnel scene, they're trying to convey a sense of confusion, not how a proper stack should be executed. And all the times that you're complaining about Emily Blunt's reactions, that's what she's supposed to be doing. They're setting her up for Benicio telling her that she doesn't belong in this war. They're creating a moral quandry. She's an avatar for the law and morality and he's a symbol for vengeance and going beyond the law. Green Beret guy thinks the FBI agent should just fall in line and be OK with wasting everyone. That's not the job of law enforcement, amigo.
That brings up an interesting point- US gov and Mex gov destroy Mexico through privatizations, destroying unions, destroying land reform, tacitly encourage criminals and drug trafficking, well now you have a mess. Send in military to kill criminals, but in reality criminals establish dual power in Mexico. Can you law enforce your way out of this mess once criminals have established dual power and are now para-militaries? In Colombia the answer was "no". However, now that cartels there back under control, Colombian Bernie Sanders/Jill Steins are running the cities and the country again, at least administratively.
I'm a big fan of both of these movies Josh Brolin and Benicio del Toro both do excellent work portraying sketchy black ops guys that toe the line between being the good guys or the bad guys.
Alejandro (Benicio del Toro) was one of the most fascinating characters I have seen in a long time. In the beginning of the film, he came across as a loner, a cowboy (the scene where he is standing outside the private jet, looking on into the distance). Kate sees Alejandro taking a nap and he jumps in his seat (flashback)--so now we see he is suffering from some serious PTSD--at the end of the film we discover why (his wife and daughter were killed by the cartel). In that meeting with the Marshals and the Deltas before they pick up the prisoner: Alejandro looks like he is not even listening to the man speaking: he is distracted, thinking about something else. As we can see at the end of the film, Alejandro has one objective in mind: killing the cartel boss and his family. The intriguing thing about Alejandro is that he used to be a lawyer; he was trying to use the legal system in Mexico to prosecute the cartel. When his wife and daughter were killed, he changed tactics: he became a hired killer, a hitman, a sicario. Alejandro was lethal and efficient with his sidearm; his skill was surgical; he was emotionless, passionless--he had ice in his veins. Alejandro was brutal, blunt (especially to Emily Blunt) and decisive. He was a wolf in the land of wolves. Alejandro: "Nothing will make sense to your American ears. . . But in the end, you will understand."
You think Alejandro was a psychopath? I think so. The dude just seemed to need an excuse to do what he did to make that switch. I actually talked with a guy who is officially termed as a pyschopath by docs (paper work signed off and all, they couldn't sign him off as a kid but an adult by law) but he's legit not having broken laws since childhood. I love the wolf description, of all the canines, they are straight up killers and have the tools to be apex predators.
@@samuellp1146 I don't think I would call Alejandro a psychopath. After Alejandro saw his wife and daughter killed by the cartel, something broke deep within him. As a prosecutor, he was trying to use the legal system in Mexico to go after the cartel. After the death of his wife and daughter, he changed tactics. When civilized diplomacy breaks down, that is when men go to war. Alejandro went to war.
@@samuellp1146 Fausto was a real psychopath. He brazenly questioned Alejandro for his change in occupation following the death of his wife. And when Alejandro said "Don't forget about my daughter", he shrugged and said "it wasn't personal". All whilst he was sat at the dinner table with his wife and two sons. So in hindsight, what he did to Fausto and his family was a simple act of mercy compared to what happened to his own family.
@@GreyDoofus88 Remember at the dinner scene? Fausto says, "Not in front of my boys". Alejandro then kills his wife and two sons before he kills Fausto. That was an act of mercy. Fausto showed no mercy towards Alejandro's wife and daughter. Fausto cut off the head of Alejandro's wife and threw Alejandro's daughter in a vat of acid. That is not merely a casual killing; it is gratuitous, premeditated, cold and calculated murder. I know that the drug cartels make billions of dollars off of the drugs that they peddle. But at a deeper level, these drug cartels murder people as a blood sacrifice unto the devil. This blood sacrifice gives them power from the devil--just like their Aztec, Toltec and Mayan forebears. There is nothing new under the sun. Fausto was definitely a bloodthirsty psychopath.
the best thing about the border scene is, it builds up extremely well and the actions end in 15 seconds. 15 fucking delta guys just execute them. No 5 minute shoot out and mag dumping, quick, precise and brutal.
Enjoyed your analysis as I wouldn’t know… just like the FBI woman,she didn’t know. She was our eyes, the writer put her there as the inexperienced cop in fighting cartels. She was the Law and Order righteous cop and our expectation of her winning the day is smashed right along w all her expectations. And the movie doesn’t have the feel good, ‘bad guys lose’ feeling, it ends bleak, just as the Josh Brolin character laid it out to Emily Blunt, we just do what we can, and the cartels will just keep on coming.
To be fair, regarding the puking, I think the point was that all those corpses (all those inside the walls) were decomposing/decomposed, so it was the stench that got him, not the scene. Regarding the torture, I think that at the beginning the sicario was simply strangling him.
regarding the puking if it was smell how come none of those in the house were bothered by it until after. "the walls were shut"......walls aren't air tight. if a animal dies in the wall it is really really obvious because of the smell. I am pretty sure they were supposed to be bagged in air tight body bags to prevent the smell
Agree with Buck, Benicio double-tapping Emily Blount was so badass, partly because a) it was dismissive in a "bitch you are out of your element, and must have me confused with a lesser person" way b) it communicated how this overweight-looking older-dude possessed crazy lethal skills. A perfect casting, and shows how you can never judge a book by its cover. The quiet 50-year-old in the wrinkled business suit just might murder you in front of your wife and kids after killing a dozen of your bodyguards.
With Benicio, I think his character needed to consciously limit himself to 2 rounds because he needed her disabled, but not outright kill her. Had to edit here because I was mi-remembering the movie and thought he still had his M4 when he cleared the tunnel. I was quite surprised he didn't change his M4 at the beginning of the tunnel op for a slower, harder punch, unless he needed to keep his involvement low-key. He does change to the pistol after he gets TO the police car, so I'll give him that.
Sicario def one of my favorite movies in the past 5 years. It was so raw and shamelessly badass that dgaf about current society's political climate. Benicio del Toro killed that role. Whats crazy is if you see behind the scene interviews with Benicio he's a really light hearted nice guy. Nothing like his character at all. Thats testament to his capacity as a great actor.
The torture scene, I feel, is left up to interpretation. I don’t think he put his crotch in his face to eventually force it down his throat. He was invading his space, kinda saying “What now, bitch?”. I really believe that the drain being dry shows that he’s torturing this dude in some which way and hasn’t even gotten to use the water yet. Maybe he was gagging him with his tie.🤷🏾♂️
The water told everyone else outside the room that he's doing that method. When in reality, he's using what ever is necessary, i mean they did wipe his family out.
He's emasculating him. In the cartel world homophobia is still the norm. It's just an environment where hyper-masculinity is a virtue to be projected and protected at all costs. That's just icing on top of the fact that homophobic or not NO ONE wants somebody all up in their space like that. He was most definitely stripping that guy of his manhood right then and there, which would leave him even more vulnerable to subsequent interrogation. I don't believe for a second he actually put his dick in his mouth. Now, something else in his mouth not anatomy related? Very likely. It's still a truly fucked up scene. Not to mention that torture may get you quick answers, but not necessarily accurate or honest ones, which is the whole point of interrogation.
The biggest point Buck is missing in the first scene is that is exactly how they did it in Phoenix on that raid. That scene is accurate to a T. That and the SRT team did in fact wear black-tac gear that day. Let's be honest here - Mexican foot soldiers who work for the cartel aren't that smart, much less, tactically smart. Maybe he can't say that for fear of being social-media canceled but I can say it because I just don't give AF about people who don't like hearing the truth. 2 Points here - 1 - Not *EVERY* combat situation portrayed in movies is off-the-top BS because you personally haven't experienced it and 2 - It's a movie, not a documentary.
What we have to appreciate is Kate's role as representing the journey/ voice of the audience. Most Americans would find most of the events appalling or jarring until we have fully gone down the rabbit hole of the reality of how bad the war against the Cartels is
@@strafer8764I don’t think that’s necessarily true, I just think these guy have already made the “journey” so to speak. These guys already know this stuff so they just don’t see the point in her being there from their perspective. I can totally see why someone who already knows about this stuff can find her annoying
@@kingthlayerl.7349 lmfao no the movies theme according to the director is the pointlessness and futility of the drugwar. and then with the 2nd one it basically is just an action movie ala john wick
They literally picked her because of her high horse going by the book persona, because, in the end, they used her to sign off on this assination. Making her the perfect cover. Also, she had hope which made her naive. Her belief got her pretty fucking far which was also impressive but then she saw behind the curtain lol
I didn’t watch this one all the way through yet. But I wanted to jump in quick and ask if First Blood is on the list. Let me just say Sicario is a sick movie, and I agree the female agent is annoying.
@@FNGACADEMY Lone Survivor and 13 Hours.. Did you guys happen to see the tweet Killory Clinton did about, So Bill has Covid and we need to quarantine, any suggestions to Netflix binge?? Someone suggested 13 Hours.. LMAO..
@@FNGACADEMY 4:47 Actually they almost never have to pay for damages to someone's property they raid even when it turns out they are wrong... its call Qualified Immunity Here's just one of endless examples if you just search for "police qualified immunity property damage" ruclips.net/video/dnDaWBum0iE/видео.html 5:33 you answer your own question why a lot of swat teams and police agencies use these methods because a lot of them used these exact tactics and approach when they served in the military and continue to use them when they leave the military to become LEOs. Its not their fault but they just go with what worked for them in the past. Its basically drilled into your mind to love to fuck shit up while youre in the military. "theres a time and place for it, and its not someones house" in Afghanistan that was still someones house... did you guys pay to fix it? prob never even thought about it. and thats the same mentality a lot of LEOs bring home and employ on americans.
I really love seeing movie breakdowns done by professionals. Especially when SOF people comment on miltitary/tactical stuff. However, I think sh*tting on the FBI agent so much is a bit harsh (except for the bodies part, I agree). I think (and yes I might be wrong) there still is a difference in the mentality of people between police and military. One is maintaining order, prosecuting criminals and preserving life.The other comes into play when civil interaction has basically ceased. Soldiers train for being better at killing people than the other side and are given the tools to make sure they succeed. Weapons, training etc. I am quite sure that being trained as a soldier deliberately also incorporates the "loosening" of the moral switch not to kill someone. The longer you do it, the easier it gets because you can justify it with things like "they were the bad guys". A normal human does not want to kill another human. But sometimes it is necessary. I am not sh*tting on SOF either, although one might get the impression in some interviews that some of them have lost care for human life. There are times where exactly this is needed. What I am getting at is, dont hate on her too much for hesitating to mow down cartel guys, even if it is just a portrayed character. There are people who are made for it, and there are people who aren't. There is a reason why all SOF are looking (mostly) only for mentally stable and really tough people. It is not for everybody, and that is okay.
I love this movie even with all it's Hollywood tactics. Like in a gun fight in a tunnel with no ear pro then taking to each other like nothing is happening! 😂 Abel made me laugh my ass off with his "admiration" for the chick! 🤣🤣 Good one boys!
Denver rourke's book said something along the lines of they shot without ear protection and the human body naturally took care of you. Is that legit or no then?
Biologically speaking no, however, perceptually, the onset can be gradual so the loss might seem imperceptible to the operator even if quantitative testing will reveal loss of sensing certain sound frequencies and/or reduced sensitivity of certain frequencies
@dillydoor I've been on a firing line with no ear pro, 20+ other M16s going off, shot 9s and 22s with no ear pro (recreational shooting), been on gun trucks, etc. My hearing is still pretty good, but I assure you that running with no ear pro, even in outdoor environments, will damage your hearing. The ringing after getting blasted by some continuously loud noise and/or concussion is basically your ears dying a little bit. Your brain will get used to loud noises, but it can't really prevent the damage.
One thing that always bugged me about the tunnel scene is no ear pro in a tight fucking tunnel firefight. No one hearing shit after and the VA aint letting you claim disability either
13:02 I relate to this part a lot, as someone who used to be affiliated with gang members in my early adulthood, and being in my early 30's now, and far detached from those dark times, I don't even get all that upset with the GANGSTER profiling anymore. There really is a big difference between racial profiling and gangster profiling, because me and the gang members I used to hang around, we all did the same shit when identifying an enemy. Those exact details that you mentioned, with their demeanor, the need to keep a "mean mug" on if anyone even looks your way, rolling in packs, and all those minor details pointed out. Picking up on that "vibe" becomes an instinct, and I totally understand how cops develop that so easily now.
Brother, you hit the nail on the head. It was profiling, only it was dirtbag profiling. We didn’t care what color they were, only that that they checked the dirtbag box.
I'm going to defend Blunt's role. This is meant to be an allegory not documentary'ish/true story like Lone Survivor or 'realistic depiction' like Saving Private Ryan. Blunts role is the as the audience's avatar not as a badass. You're an operator so you see the position she finds herself in as exciting and an opportunity. She's not meant for you she's meant for your sweet Grandma or 8th grade band teacher. Yes, she's supposed to be an experienced law enforcement officer for the narrative. However, she needs act how the average never seen someone bleed out person would act, not how someone whose done a tour would act. She's there for the uninitiated audience to place themselves in her shoes. Your points on tactics are spot on but this isn't a movie about tactics but larger strategy and policy choices everyday voters have to make. Blunt's character as it is there for the audience but also for the choice the movie asks the audience to make: This is how evil and horrible the drug cartels are and what they do. If we are going to solve the drug and crime issue with violence are willing to go this far to fight them? How willing are you to ignore the law and fight horror with horror? Without Blunt's character the movie is just a ra ra kill the bad guys. Just like without Del Toro's character it is just a liberal anti-violence piece of propaganda. To be far to the audience she needs to be one side of the coin while De Toro is the other. Your problem is because you have already decided; for you she's just a snowflake getting in the way of the boys' fun. Your hippy dentist assistant whose protested against every war and drone strike since he/she's been alive probably hates Brolin's character just as much and think he's as evil and stupid as the drug lords. For both of you there is no question for this movie to beg; does the means justify the ends. Is stopping a drug lord worth killing a corrupt cop in a corrupt society just trying to feed his family and survive, leaving an orphan and widow. Because as of today some do want military intervention in Mexico and that will mean a lot, a whole lot of that. Point being, you can review the tactics and that's cool and interesting. But you cannot critique the movie like you would Sands of Iwo Jima or Band of Brothers. I mean No Country for Old Men doesn't make any kind of real world sense either but it is still a great movie. You miss the point of Old Country is you're wrapped around silencers don't work like that and that car door wouldn't stop that round. Or, ain't now way an old school Texas sheriff would act like that.
I tuned out after the piss poor attempt at trying to say breaching the house with a apc wasn't accurate or ideal. These guys forget that drug cartels build their safe houses like fortresses just like HVTs in Afghanistan or Iraq also build their safe zones like fortresses. Makes me question the legitimacy of these guys tactical experience because that shit is just common sense.
The advisers were SEALs, so that final briefing makes sense. What doesn't make sense is Emily aka Kate rocking FULL AUTO on a hostage rescue mission. 🙃
She's a noob. She doesn't know what the fuck she is doing. Remember, the ONLY reason she is there is to provide a theoretical legal justification, for an armed CIA task force on American soil.
@@curtism-w6b Are you talking about full auto or 3 round bursts? I never knew full auto was best used in cqb clearing structures. I always thought every round needed to be accounted for especially if there’s a hostage and you have it in full auto.
Pretty sure Alejandro was kicking the shit out the dude... With the tunnel scene I figured it was kinda designed to be chaotic, so that Alejandro could sneak off and do his thing without blunt and her friend noticing. That's kinda why she has no idea what the fuck they are doing or why. Also I felt like Emily Blunt's character was kinda the antagonist in this movie.
She was only there to give it a certain perspective, and it wouldn't have worked without her. I think the point was to contrast the "law and order" approach to the brutal reality of the situation.
Also most law enforcement agencies dont run clearing drills as often. They also have mixed agents or officers sometimes on busts and raids so the tactics get very, Blunt. In the Army we had more training then others in our own brigade and every time they brought out other MOS’s the CQB training was pretty terrible, or slow. Officers really dont get drill time on stacks and clearing, its pretty rough what i’ve seen in person from local enforcement, hell even FBI. These days training has gone to shit lol Also the main agent is more rogue than he is a agent. And being in bed with CIA his tactics are more cartel then “good guy” because his whole purpose is to assassinate them. So prison style rape which is something that breaks gang members is not above his reproach for torture. He has no line anymore to achieve what he wants. And the agency lets him run wild for it. He’s an asset.
She's saying front and back plates because she is taking out the small side plates. The front and back plates are already in the carrier. Also I think the interegation scene infers Benicio giving the bad guy a golden shower. That's why he was chugging water beforehand. The coolest part of this film imo is the dynamic between the CIA/Delta Force guys versus the more innocent FBI officers and how their morals is struggling with the means being used but they still go along with it because they recognise it's going to put a dent in the Cartel and they want to make a difference. That's what I think this film is about. That's why Emily Blunts character is written the way she is.
As someone who investigates cartel cells for a living, we do our homework...we'd know if there were women/children inside a target house and adjust accordingly. Give us more credit
In the mission brief where it shows Delta guys, they are actually active SEALs that were in Texas at a military site the director was scouting and he saw them and asked if they’d be able to do a scene , turned out they were allowed to and the director told them to jsut do their thing how they would. There’s a RUclips video on it. Not sure why they didn’t jsut call them SEaLs but bad ass when u see the border scene to know it’s SEALs in their tactics.
If you're considering TV shows for Beers and Breakdowns, then I would really recommend the Mayor of Kingstown. The show it self is pretty good, imo, but there's some scenes intermixed in the season with some SWAT taking action and even the National Guard. Love the videos!
Rewatching this and through the laughter I realized Buck is an excellent teacher of how to think clearly and logically. Pointing out mistakes and making them a teaching moment and commending smart tactical choices are the hallmarks of an exceptional instructor. His “criminally profiling” explanation definitely opened my eyes to see things from law enforcement POV, but he also empathized the reasons for why the majority of gangsters are gangsters for preservation of life. Top notch Buck! 🤟🏽🤟🏽✊🏽
This shows the difference between somebody who's used to killing and this kind of stuff, i.e., Buck, and somebody who isn't, i.e., Kate. It's supposed to be that way. Buck and his frustration hammers home the brilliance of this movie
Hey y'all! Can you please do a review of "Sabotage". I loved that movie! "Heat" would also be great, from the tactical and the police aspects. I think your channel is the best!
Emily Blunt's character is bureaucracy unwilling to accept the reality on the ground. Moreover she is the Lawful Good of US Law Enforcement, where as Josh Brolin and Benecio Del Toro's characters are Chaotic Good within the CIA. Ultimately, the two part series is one of the Law Enforcement arm of Bureaucracy, and then the over-encompassing Bureaucracy that withdraws when the political stakes are higher than the reward of effectively combatting Cartel Operations. You don't hit the drugs, you hit the means of production, their facilities, and their men. And that's something Americans in the general populace, and many in Government (many who PROFIT off the War on Drugs, War on Human Trafficking, and War on Terror), are unwilling to accept. Josh and Benecio's portrayal of effective policy in complete disregard for "American Ethics" with Foreign Policy is what American National Security needs, not what it wants. The film, as a whole, portrays that the war is ugly, dirty, unfair, and even the FBI Superiors she tried to sic on Josh and Benecio's characters, agreed with the change in strategy. They straight up told her, in their follow on briefing of activity, that they weren't winning. They even asked her, with the amount of convictions and arrests and confiscation of narcotics and rescue of hostages and trafficked humans, they were not seeing an end, just an ever expanding battle that they were already beginning to see would stretch them to the breaking point just trying to contain. Essentially, the ideological principle behind the whole film is that Josh and Benecio's characters are trying to shine light on an offensive strategy against the Cartels by destabilizing Mexico's very precipitous inter-Cartel stability. By keeping them fighting in their own country over the means of trafficking and cross-border operations, rather than focused on the actual operations of cross-border activity, they can limit the amount of drugs flowing in to the US. Its not a 100% solution, but its better than knee-jerk, reactionary operations that place a salve on an open wound that's festering and becoming gangrenous with inactivity and lack of resolve to actually STOP the problem.
Emily Blunt's character is the viewer, it's us in that new scenario, hence she follows the ethical moral compass we expect a legit and fair government to follow. The last scene of gun fires confirms that whatever US is doing there, whether it's legal or illegall isn't working. Cycle of violence continues.. It's actually similar to lot of wars US end up fighting around the world etc.. Brilliant story telling, but I see lot of people not understanding the last scene or Emily's character. That's what makes this great suspense thriller a masterpiece.
@@wathsi99 You're making an overall grand strategy assumption based on a presupposition that ONLY when the US gets involved, does violence tend to escalate... Rather than the overall perspective that violence is inherently just a human trait regardless of whatever subliminal or overt motivations may exist. Which, in itself, is rather intellectually baseless and bankrupt. You can't solve violence with pacifism. And you don't win by being on the defensive. The evidence in our reality proves this as true. More drugs get into the US than the drugs our CBP and DEA actively managed to confiscate at border crossings and in stings. And the Cartels are increasing their overall strangle hold on Border Towns and the crossings. This alternate world of CIA operations designed to destabilize is the posed idea of "What If?" in which the US Department of Defense and Department of Justice recognized, in a moment of brilliance and logic, that being objectively defensive with an issue that is proactively becoming more offensive in its grand and targeted stratagems and tactics from the Cartels' Operations is counter intuitive to solving the problem. AKA: Getting on the offensive and making them fight in their own backyard, rather than allowing them to cause chaos in ours, is objectively better in a basic understanding of "War".
@@JohnDoe-wt9ek Despite having done exactly that for decades, America today is in a worse state than decades ago so your overall point seems increasingly shortsighted. There will always be wolves, which is why no form of government guarantees any long-term success. Having an increased divide between rich and poor in the world will only draw more wolves out of the forest in the search for food.
@@LSmallCatL You missed the second paragraph where I objectively stated that it has gotten worse, and the third paragraph of this whole scenario being a "What if?" in which DOD and DOJ actually had a semblance of logic and practical execution of law and military operations. The Government actually having a solution and executing that solution to its fullest extent has never occurred in history. The Prohibition. The War on Drugs. The stupidity of the War on Firearms. The War on Poverty (ironically enough). The recognition that whatever the government touches makes it proactively worse is not beyond me. I served the damn system and the ineptitude of Bureaucracy and Politics made it inefficient, slow, and gluttonous, while presuming to be a powerful force for good. The divide between rich and poor is only relevant because of the voting habits of Americans for the last 60 years electing self-serving pricks who have been in office longer than I've been walking this earth...
Larry Vickers did a review on this as well. He speculated, and i believe it since he knows way more about it than I probably ever will, they probably had SEAL advisors, just on what the SMU carried. For real though, Emily blunt was annoying af. But I think she’s also in it for the average viewer that knows little about clandestine shenanigans. Can’t wait for Sicario 2
I believe Vickers pointed out on the border shootout scene, the guy with the glasses in the front passenger seat had slide lock on his AR prior to getting out of the vehicle.
Side note on the interrogation scene. It's called "breaking the buck". Basically he's being sodomized to break his pride . A tactic used in the slave trade and still used amongst warlords today. It's just as gross for the ppl that are present... Stay safe gentlemen. Good review
A cool little tidbit I read about this movie when I watched it is that Steve Forsing (Jeffrey Donovan) is based on Mike Vinning; one of the original Delta Force legends from Desert Storm.
Just going to throw this out there, I watched a video on the making of Sacario. The Emily blunt character was originally written for a man to play but they changed it because they didn’t think a man would be able to stick to his convictions. Not that the host in this video is t sticking to his convictions but you can CLEARLY see how he says he would just have the time of his life in her situation. That exactly why her character existed. Kind of a main part of the movie.
Wish you would have shown the last scene where he commented "you're not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves. You will not survive." That phrase was the entirety of this film.
Lol straight up I disagree so much. There is a lot of thought behind Emily Blunt character. Firstly this is one of the better written female lead protagonists in an action movie in the last 10 years or so. You could say she is less "competent" than her colleagues because she has less experience and makes mistakes but in some ways she is the most competent because she is the only one that actually wants to figure out what is going on and willing to stop it. Also it's a great character for storytelling, since we as the audience are just as a clueless to what is going on as she is and seeing it through her eyes works perfectly. From the narrative perspective, her having less experience also makes perfect sense because nobody cares about the outcome of her investigation. So they might as well throw a "silly girl" in a center of it all and not risk anything by doing that.
Sicario is such a brilliant film. :) Like as far as the camera work (that sunset scene with the silhouettes of the soldiers was amazing) characters and how it makes us question 'right and wrong'. I also loved the acting. One of my favorite films. Thanks for this inside look into real thing.
As a fed myself one thing I found interesting was how The contractor had attained such a high clearance level to be at these black sites and move freely around the facility. Very interesting.
I saw someone make the point that the FBI agent is no the protagonist in this movie but Benicio's character is. Which makes so much sense and explains your impression too.
@FNG ACADEMY both dude's reaction to scene in movie: Buck- "Oh, shut the fuck up, bitch!" Abel- ". . .But she's a beautiful woman, bro." Fucking priceless!
3:57 I feel like since they were so obvious moving towards the house, It would honestly be surprising if someone didn't notice them and just prepared for a breach. So yeah it could be a violent breach, but they could have just barricaded at the opposite side of the room to wait for them.
You guys do such a great job adding context and praising the good things the movie does and get right. It’s a pleasure listening to you both reacting to this I’ve seen tons of military folks who react to military movies and love just shitting on them for no reason. It’s fine to do that if you want, but no one wants to watch that for a reaction video Kudos gentlemen!
I was hoping to hear y’all talk about the suppressed mp5 that magically turned into a mp5sd with a taped on red dot sight. M4 with the BCG locked back!
@sagerette No, experts notice stuff like that, looking for it or not. Historical weapons experts notice the same things with period movies/shows using the wrong weapons and armor, people in medical professions notice things like idiots pulling out impaled objects because it "looks badass", science people notice ridiculous things like "dark matter asteroids", etc. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far, especially when it's something in your field drawing the attention.
@@logicplague I notice that kind of shit all the time in movies. M4's with the dust cover closed, brass that are clearly blanks (both flying through the air after ejecting and also on mag changes), and other stuff. Being a gun guy who worked on fighter jets (F-15E's in the AF) makes watching war movies an exercise in 'how much stupid can I ignore?'.
The reason from Emily Blunts FBI agent is because the CIA could not operative on US soil without another domestic agency attached to it, I believe that was the reason given by the CIA guy at the end.
It's been a while since I saw the movie but the entire operation was a smoke screen in order to force the cartel leader back home so the hitman could travel into Mexico to be killed. Like searching the banks and searching for the tunnels. The CIA collects information only regarding foreign countries and their citizens. Unlike the FBI, it is prohibited from collecting information regarding “U.S. Persons,” a term that includes U.S. citizens, resident aliens, legal immigrants, and U.S. corporations, regardless of where they are located.
It's why at the end Alejandro I think his name was forced Emily blunts character who is fbi to say everything they did on the us side was legal and by the book.
The whole breach with the vehicle scene actually reminds me a little of what happened when feds went up against David Koresh and his followers in Waco many years ago. If I remember correctly they actually employed the use of a National Guard tank with a battering ram. That was a very sad ending to a horrible event in our nations history.
Yep, the scene where she got tapped for trying to give orders. Priceless. You forgot to mention them in the tunnel, dumping half the military ammo budget down range with NO EAR PRO! You are all now retired on a medical because you're all deaf. Auditory exclusion doesn't defy physics. The over pressure on your ear drums from that? F&%k that. I don't even like shooting indoor ranges WITH ears. Spot on analysis with this one. Her character all but ruined the movie. 👍🏼👍🏼
Blunt's character was the antagonist of the movie. She was supposed to represent the innocence and ignorance of the audience. To me, it was way overdone. The way she acted almost took me out of the movie completely. She was too naive and insubordinate. She should have known why she was there after Brolin's character kept her in the dark about operations. Also, the bank scene just irritated me to no end. She almost blew the operation by being a dumbass.
@@chuckhoyle1211 Excellent analysis. Agree on all fronts. Worked for the Bureau a ways back. Women weren't and just plain didn't WANT to be on tactical teams.🙄 House clearing scene at the beginning and the technical accuracy was just bad writing in the script for policorrect BS and just way too whiny for a "tough rising star" in the Bureau. She/her character, was better in Day After Tomorrow.
She was a big ole wet blanket. When she told Josh Brolin’s character that she was going to inform on them I was like “Huh” Her and her partner are out on the middle of the desert at night. They are surrounded by a team of experienced killers. He is being restrained at gun and she is loudly saying “As soon as I get back to the office, I’m telling”. I thought that was extremely hard to believe.
Her character is what a normal, fully functioning person would be if it was their first experience with a , what basically amounts to a kill team, against a cartel. She is the eyes of the viewer.
I saw a good analysis of this movie and they had a good argument that Emily's character was the antagonist, not the protagonist. The lawyer is the protagonist.
Rewatching the movie after seeing this movie review. The commentary about ninjas in the middle of the desert is hilarious. To add on to this... in the first minute of the movie as the ninjas are closing in on the house, you can see someone in the street walking their dog in the direction of the stealthy ninjas . I can only imagine what would have been going their head if it was a real scenario. Me and my dog Scoob would been like "ruh roh" run the other way and not checked out that mystery! Desert Ninjas Zoinks!
Hating her character is a good thing. Most people with half a brain acknowledge that Blunt nailed her role but her character is a real pain. @@erenjaeger1738
@@damianplasencia2708 She serves as the audience's POV throughout the movie. As she learns information, we learn information. A conduit. She also represents the classic, outdated idea of "good guys vs. bad guys", the idea that the world is governed by rules and "good guys" are expected to follow them. As the movie progresses, and her utility is revealed as just a way to legitimize the actions of the rest of the team, her fundamental world view begins to crumble. Her character plays a key part both thematically and structurally, until the POV switches to Alejandro in the third act.
You were talking about everyone getting a shot on the guy in the room. A life long friend of mine was in the battle for Fallujah. He got trashed with us one night years back and started talking about stuff (he never talks about this shit) and brought up how they would walk on people in rooms and if they heard them make a noise while getting stepped on they would put more rounds into them. Crazy shit....
@@snakeinthegrak8969 Fallujah was a uniquely brutal battle. The Marines had to slug it out with the insurgency block by block. The entire city was hostile. Kind of like a bigger Mogadishu but instead of running away like the rangers did in Somalia, the USMC kicked everyone's ass.
About the breach with the truck: They cleary approached the house like a normal truck, turned around and then tried to penetrate the wall with a large surface. Thats friggin dumb - they alarm everyone by turning and reversing with this monster and loose the element of surprise (i would certainly look out the window if a black truck wrrrroooooomed in front of my house..) - they could just get their hatch stuck - like he said, they build themselfes a fatal funnel for all members of the team - They have practically no cover when entering and something goes wrong - they create debri and dust, so nobody can see - they may even provoke a cave in and damage the building too much to be safe inside - they have no way of retreat - they probably damage their truck...
The fact that everyone in the tunnel gun fight wasn't deaf as a post afterwards was amazing.... come on either suppress the weapons or have them wearing some type of ear pro.
I love how you have distain for Emily Blunt's character. That's the idea. If you think of it from a logical standpoint she's actually the antagonist in the movie. She holds herself to these lofty ideals, but she's completely oblivious to how the world actually works. Fighting a war is messy, whether it's the "drug war" or in Afghanistan. She actually hinders the mission, and is shown through the course of the movie either unintentionally slowing it down due to being a liability, or intentionally where she wants things done "by the book."
I had a problem with her character being so naive. There is no way that any LEO or agent working Kidnapping and Human Trafficking along the border for more than a month or two wouldn't know what the hell is going on.
Hard to tell but it doesn't appear anyone has plugs in. Non-suppressed engagement in confined space is a recipe for "huh"---"what". There was a time in my life where I thought the ringing would never stop, took about a week...
The funny thing is that Buck looks like Emily Blunt's husband, John Krasinski. I can't stop smiling) Emily is a good actress and she just has such a character. It's all so funny)
Im really surprised Buck didn't go off on two occasions during the Border scene, Benicio del Toro flagging the shit out of Emily's face with his rifle and Jeffrey Donovan having his bolt to the rear while unlocking his door. Also Im hoping you'll breakdown The kill team, it would be really interesting to hear your thoughts on it!
Yeah Benicio definitely did a muzzle sweep across her face. While they were in a confined situation with cameras inside the vehicle, he could have easily swept low and brought the gun up.
you'd be surprised, theres several podcasts with ex-ST6 guys saying flagging isn't a big deal and it happens all the time in CQB when rolling down two parallel hall ways or in other similar instances. Can't remember which guy said it on Shawn Ryan's podcast, but he was like they went through every scenario to mitigate flagging and/or shooting your teammate in a situation like that and they came to the conclusion to "just don't shoot your fucking buddy, its gonna happen coming around corners/ during cqb in general". He likened it to the Black hawk down trigger finger safety scene lol but not that crazy of riding hot in a chow hall. I get flagging her in the car is different, but with tier 1 training and no-fuck ups allowed or you're done discipline, I'd say they aren't worried about flagging someone in certain situations. I know this makes range guys and regular shooters heads explode hearing this shit, but if you seen these guys work, these guys are pros. I agree, I don't want the random weekend at the range flagging me or some security force dude at the front gate, being a no-shit shooter and cqb pro isn't those guys job.
@@cosmokramer7396 If you notice, her character always seemed to have a problem (especially towards the beginning of the movie) with going against "the book". She even runs to her superior and tries to complain about not following procedure, and her boss told her flat out "If your fear is operating out of bounds, I'm telling you - you are not." After this, she continues to oppose Matt and Alejandro, but it becomes more and more clear that Kate isn't so much trying to follow "the book"; she's trying to force them to do things "her way". Most characters in a movie have an arc or progression, she never comes around throughout the entirety movie; hence why Buck hates her so much in this review!
most people covered a lot of the points about the tunnel and Emily's character pretty well. but wanted to point out the FBI raid in the beginning, i did think it was odd they'd be in black in the desert during the day but i think the issue is that it's immediately obvious they're FBI/SWAT to your average movie-goer, where if they were in camo the audience has to parse whether they're military or not and what they're actually doing there if they are. the driving through the wall thing definitely was a bit odd too, but was shock-and-awe to start shaking up the audience and get them off guard as it does throughout the movie. it can't always be a training manual when the ultimate point is to drive a story.
I watched this movie and on the 1st run through I was shaking my head for a lot of the reasons you pointed out and I'm just a civilian. Pet hates for me in any gun movie are the damn guns making noises whenever they are moved like WTF?
Attention to detail. The girl played a huge role in the movie, they needed her to be in the dark about everything. She was their "get out of jail free card" their rules of engagement to every mission they did was not by the book.
EXACTLY!!!!!!
They were CIA and its against US law for them to run ops within our borders. Having FBI there, clueless or not, gives an out to call it an FBI op, and not a CIA op.
In real life, she would know she's the legal attaché. It's quite clear, to be honest.
I think we knew that from watching and listening to the movie
😂 perfectly worded as “the get out of jail free card” they knew they weren’t getting no authority creating a distraction for a hitman.
I think you misunderstood the vomiting part- I don’t think they were vomiting because of the sight, it was the smell
Yeah the smell of one dead body is pretty bad. 35 would easily make me puke
@@alecnotalec4963 let alone rotting in Arizona heat
he isn't the brightest bulb
if it was the smell it would have been making them puke on entry. walls don't seal perfectly. and they would have been puking at the front door just inside later when going back through. but they weren't.
Yet the baddies sit inside and watch TV like all right...
I've been in Mexico for the last 20 years, the most realistic scene to me was the one where she's on the roof watching the gunfights across the river. I've seen things like that , but I've never seen the narcos use tracers. One time I was driving at night in Nuevo Laredo back to my hotel after buying a Malinois puppy in Texas, and a Tropa del Infierno convoy crossed an intersection a block up and came past me in the opposite lanes. Six armored pickups with belt fed brand new looking Browning .50 machine guns on the front and back trucks. I'm not going to lie, I really was tempted to try and get a video with my cell but y'know... The bodies hanging off the bridge with the banner was pretty realistic too, If you live on the border long enough, especially around 2010-2012 you would see something like that if you went to work early enough in the morning.
I lived in Tombstone around that time and spent some time around Nogales. I learned very quickly to keep my ginger ass on the north side of the border.
Same, I'm in south Texas. We haven't been able to vcross the border in 4 years bc of the cartels ransoming Americans.
Exactly. Its not the same fighting in Afghanistan where the taliban come and attack from afar as in Mexico even the state police have you identified for easy pickings before you fill your gas tank.
I worked in the oil field on the boarder and they would steal our white company trucks. use them to smuggle then drop them all off at the same location where we would pick them up stripped down. crazy shit back in 05'
They are called Narcomantas but yea you definitely do not want to get caught filming them. Depending where you are at, the Cartels have been up on tech for a long time and they actually know who is around, who is calling and texting who and if you are taking videos or whatever else, these are billion dollar organizations. Some people use vpns or they just use burner phone if they are going to specific areas where they know cell phone tracking is a common occurrence.
FBI lady's role in the movie was explained plainly by Brolin's CIA character. She was MEANT to be useless and embedded as a procedural prop until she had other ideas. Could've reacted on that interagency thing
welp she sure nailed it 😂
“FBI lady” just say Kate or Emily blunt bro
Also been a "cop" for 10 years. It's not the sight that makes you gag or puke. It's the smell. Especially if there's a scene with multiple dead bodies that have been there for a while.... the smell is gut wrenching
I think the idea was that they were all in sealed bags. I dunno but that is the feeling you get. because they weren't puking from smell. they were puking from sight. other wise just being inside the front door would have made them puke
I was in the military....and i can confirm....The smell is what gets you. And you don't even realize when it hits you.
I can tell you for me personally the smell of puke makes me want to puke.. Visually I'm good seeing it. Not a cop or soldier but just how I am.
Bags probably ripped or aren't well covered and they were behind or inside the walls I'm sure after breaking down the walls the smell was there. Also keep in mind she found the body cus of bullet penetration so that bag is definitely ripped open@@Bellator_of_the_Shadow
and that's literally the body's ingrained response because it's sensing life threatening danger; survival mechanism
I think Buck is missing how these movies work: for example, in the tunnels, they are trying to convey a sense of kinetic movement and confusion. The team has no objective to eliminate threats, or take control of the tunnels. They were sent in as a diversion force so the benecio's character can slink away. This explains why they are just looking down tunnels and firing. And Blunt's character indicates that her AR was inoperative. How does it help the movie to have her stop, slow the scene to a crawl, and do a full function test for the camera? The viewer trusts that she looked at it and saw a hole thru the receiver. Also, when the team "runs" away from her, it is more so that she was not following. That is to show the viewer that she is not part of their group both tactically nor mentally. Remember that this movie is allegorical, and she represents an unwilling and somewhat innocent conscious. Which is how the viewer is led into this movie...thru her eyes and perceptions.
I felt like the whole point of her character was that she was out of her element. It makes sense that a lot of the tactics were lost on her and she had a problem w/ the rules of engagement, since she wasnt military.
@@ConfidentMelon Exactly! "FBI is just police" is her whole character. The Bureau is filled with (sometimes literal) choir boys. Her job isn't sketchy assassinations run by CIA, it's grinding police work followed by kicking in doors.
Cliff notes
They also miss the point that Sicario 2 isn't a direct sequel but an alternate timeline kind of movie
You still don’t leave serialized gear in a tunnel to be later used as material for an IED etc:
The smell of the bodies I think is what is being sold in this scene when they open the walls up. Not from just the bodies being there making the FBI agents puke.
The dude running away in the tunnel was Benicio El Toro. The whole tunnel raid was a distraction to get Benicio's character through the tunnel so he could go kill the cartel boss. That's why he separated from the rest of the CAG guys.
Yep
*Del Toro
Why would they do all that versus just dropping him off across the border? He's working with US forces, they'll give him a ride.
@@GcD9179 Hmm. Good point. I googled. Seems like a lotta people didn't think the tunnel raid was necessary for the team's objectives below cuz Diaz was already on his way back to see Alarcon, and Benicio coming across that corrupt Mexican cop and using him to get to Diaz wasn't planned and happened on the fly:
1. Disrupt operations for US-based drug boss Manuel Díaz, so that he'll get called back to Mexico to answer to his boss, Fausto Alarcón.
2. Track Díaz when he goes there, so they can learn Alarcón's location.
3. Have Alejandro (Benicio del Toro) kill Alarcón.
Del toro......
Regarding the vomiting after the first raid, As a Firefighter/EMT of seven years, I have to say that sometimes a gross scene with really bad smells will cause me to have to leave the room to keep from throwing up.
That's what I was thinking, the bodies indoors like that, for potentially weeks if not months, in that heat, would stink. Wouldn't the smell be all over the house, even before they ripped through the walls? I'm sure you'd have knowledge on this, thanks.
@@richardadesmond i think in the movie they explained this by saying the bodies were wrapped in plastic bags that were vacuumed sealed and hid the bags inside the drywalls of the house
@@swuffy i have a rental business and the occupant died on the 2nd floor. the smell of the decaying body travelled through floors and walls of the structure (travelled down to the 1st floor into other units). floors are approx 8-10 inch concrete. walls are concrete block. doubtful that a sealed plastic bag would keep that odor at bay
Yup, dude completely missed the point and wanted to talk about how tough he is because "i WoUlDnT pUkE"
@@tanakax25 yeah throughout he's kinda trying so hard to prove he's macho and badass (which he well is most likely) but still came off as so cringe and try hard
I love how EB played as Kate. She did it really, really well imo. Her (Kate) character was needed to be in the movie. She was scared, she was struggling, her concerns were somewhat justified. She alone was responsible for most of the suspense in this movie and it wouldn't work if she'd be simply as badass as the rest of them. There had to be some character like Kate and I think she played the role extremely well.
People forget that Kate is a law enforcement officer. Her existence revolves around the law and building cases that are going to go to trial. The CIA guys? There are no rules. They're just making shit up as they go. She reacted exactly the way an FBI agent should react. From her mindset, if they are not working towards a lawful arrest, they are not only wasting their time but, given all the laws they are breaking, also opening themselves up to criminal prosecution.
And she was there to confuse the viewer. The whole movie you might be thinking she’s gonna get her way and they’ll catch the bad guys by playing by the book but nope! You only get the bad guys by doing fucked up, illegal shit
All Emily Blunt played in this movie is encapsulated in TWO words ... INCOMPETENTLY CLUELESS !!! 😩😨😣... Practically a DIVINE miracle she didnt get fatally shot... specially in the cave tunnel scene... I felt like putting iron into her myself fpr her sheer IGNORANT NAIVITY a sif she just graduated from a convent school.
she's also a tangible reminder about how these kinds of operators played by brolin and del toro tend to treat their "assets"-- disposable. they shut her out when she won't blindly comply but happily use her as bait when convenient. kate is a great example a movie character becoming a stand-in for the audience.
100% the douche on the left with his continual misogynistic comments misses the point of her. She’s a female foil for the testosterone laden male cast, and brings the viewer down to reality.
You can’t just shoot civilians as law enforcement or as military , just because you think you can.
That’s why the lawyer was needed.
Step off buckaroo
Her role was to be the foil, very green, by the books agent to show how far outside the box they have to go to accomplish the mission. She was the exact opposite of graver and that contrast makes it very visible. It is a very smart way of displaying the situation without having to literally say it. I hate being told what is going on, I would rather it be shown.
She is also the one through which the audience is given perspective. This is why she seems confused. She's being kept in the dark. Just like the audience.
Are they outside the box though? DoJ basically gave CIA and DoD permission to conduct operations against the cartel like they're terrorists in Afghanistan. This was all approved and sanctioned from above, with FBI in an oversight role. She could've just went along with it and everything would be legally fine. CIA, DoD, and even FBI work with bad dudes like Alejandro all the time.
One scene that stood out to me as "feeling real" was the Juarez scene when they're convoying into the city with the Mexican cops. Felt a lot like it would rolling hard and fast through a random Iraqi town with the Iraqi Army. Everything from the squelching of the radios , constantly turning your heads and having your rifle in your hands... although in our case we always alternated vehicles (Iraqi vic, U.S. vic, Iraqi vic, etc).
Same
@@ryanmarsh2 same here. That scene made me relive the convoy security operations I was a part of in iraq.
That was exactly what it felt like driving through towns like Gardez in the early days of Afghanistan as well as navigating around the cities of Iraq. You would be staring intently out the windows of your vehicle at everyone walking/driving around you wondering "Am I going to have to shoot you?"
How many cartel soldiers are ex US ground pounders?
Because they had to actually do that. The mistake they made was renting black suvs. Lol but they had to get permission from the local cartels too. Aint that some shit?
16:15 the method he was using was punching him in the belly with a full stomach. This instigates a gag reflex and makes the victim gag until they throw up. All the water was to help initiate the vomiting
LMFAO.. NO...... Watch again.....
He recorded him drinking a bunch of water. Then came in with a 5 gallon jug, and the camera turned off. Thats for when they Waterboard him. They have an explanation for why he was full of water. Waterboarding is illegal in the US.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cure_(torture)
Dude, he took his manhood...
@@JHenkel24 There wasn't any waterboarding. I'm sure Alejandro and Josh knew it was illegal. The 5 gallon jug of water was brought in because they knew it was going to be a hell of a long night of interrogation. They anticipated a lot of bathroom breaks.
No. It was anal rape as psychological warfare.
How the hell could you guys not discuss the last two scenes of the movie where Alejandro kills the drug lord and his family and then threatens to kill Kate if she doesn't sign off on the op? Both those scenes were totally fucking epic!
Yeah, but not really a discussion about tactics.
Bro, this isn't a training video. It's a movie. You nailed it on the tunnel scene, they're trying to convey a sense of confusion, not how a proper stack should be executed. And all the times that you're complaining about Emily Blunt's reactions, that's what she's supposed to be doing. They're setting her up for Benicio telling her that she doesn't belong in this war. They're creating a moral quandry. She's an avatar for the law and morality and he's a symbol for vengeance and going beyond the law. Green Beret guy thinks the FBI agent should just fall in line and be OK with wasting everyone. That's not the job of law enforcement, amigo.
Some of them sure do act like they not lawinforement
No shit. The guy on the left is insufferable. Turned this shit off real quick.
Bro-vets gonna Bro-vet
That brings up an interesting point-
US gov and Mex gov destroy Mexico through privatizations, destroying unions, destroying land reform, tacitly encourage criminals and drug trafficking, well now you have a mess.
Send in military to kill criminals, but in reality criminals establish dual power in Mexico.
Can you law enforce your way out of this mess once criminals have established dual power and are now para-militaries?
In Colombia the answer was "no".
However, now that cartels there back under control, Colombian Bernie Sanders/Jill Steins are running the cities and the country again, at least administratively.
Emily blunt is a Naive character in this movie ..it is reflection of USA arrogance in this world...your law is not another country law...
I'm a big fan of both of these movies Josh Brolin and Benicio del Toro both do excellent work portraying sketchy black ops guys that toe the line between being the good guys or the bad guys.
Pretty sure Buck here missed the fact that these aren't "good guys" but operate in a morally gray area.
Alejandro (Benicio del Toro) was one of the most fascinating characters I have seen in a long time. In the beginning of the film, he came across as a loner, a cowboy (the scene where he is standing outside the private jet, looking on into the distance). Kate sees Alejandro taking a nap and he jumps in his seat (flashback)--so now we see he is suffering from some serious PTSD--at the end of the film we discover why (his wife and daughter were killed by the cartel). In that meeting with the Marshals and the Deltas before they pick up the prisoner: Alejandro looks like he is not even listening to the man speaking: he is distracted, thinking about something else. As we can see at the end of the film, Alejandro has one objective in mind: killing the cartel boss and his family.
The intriguing thing about Alejandro is that he used to be a lawyer; he was trying to use the legal system in Mexico to prosecute the cartel. When his wife and daughter were killed, he changed tactics: he became a hired killer, a hitman, a sicario. Alejandro was lethal and efficient with his sidearm; his skill was surgical; he was emotionless, passionless--he had ice in his veins. Alejandro was brutal, blunt (especially to Emily Blunt) and decisive. He was a wolf in the land of wolves.
Alejandro: "Nothing will make sense to your American ears. . . But in the end, you will understand."
You think Alejandro was a psychopath? I think so. The dude just seemed to need an excuse to do what he did to make that switch. I actually talked with a guy who is officially termed as a pyschopath by docs (paper work signed off and all, they couldn't sign him off as a kid but an adult by law) but he's legit not having broken laws since childhood. I love the wolf description, of all the canines, they are straight up killers and have the tools to be apex predators.
@@samuellp1146 I don't think I would call Alejandro a psychopath. After Alejandro saw his wife and daughter killed by the cartel, something broke deep within him. As a prosecutor, he was trying to use the legal system in Mexico to go after the cartel. After the death of his wife and daughter, he changed tactics. When civilized diplomacy breaks down, that is when men go to war. Alejandro went to war.
@@1960Sawman I get your point👍🏾
@@samuellp1146 Fausto was a real psychopath. He brazenly questioned Alejandro for his change in occupation following the death of his wife. And when Alejandro said "Don't forget about my daughter", he shrugged and said "it wasn't personal". All whilst he was sat at the dinner table with his wife and two sons. So in hindsight, what he did to Fausto and his family was a simple act of mercy compared to what happened to his own family.
@@GreyDoofus88 Remember at the dinner scene? Fausto says, "Not in front of my boys". Alejandro then kills his wife and two sons before he kills Fausto. That was an act of mercy. Fausto showed no mercy towards Alejandro's wife and daughter. Fausto cut off the head of Alejandro's wife and threw Alejandro's daughter in a vat of acid. That is not merely a casual killing; it is gratuitous, premeditated, cold and calculated murder. I know that the drug cartels make billions of dollars off of the drugs that they peddle. But at a deeper level, these drug cartels murder people as a blood sacrifice unto the devil. This blood sacrifice gives them power from the devil--just like their Aztec, Toltec and Mayan forebears.
There is nothing new under the sun. Fausto was definitely a bloodthirsty psychopath.
the best thing about the border scene is, it builds up extremely well and the actions end in 15 seconds. 15 fucking delta guys just execute them. No 5 minute shoot out and mag dumping, quick, precise and brutal.
Enjoyed your analysis as I wouldn’t know… just like the FBI woman,she didn’t know. She was our eyes, the writer put her there as the inexperienced cop in fighting cartels. She was the Law and Order righteous cop and our expectation of her winning the day is smashed right along w all her expectations. And the movie doesn’t have the feel good, ‘bad guys lose’ feeling, it ends bleak, just as the Josh Brolin character laid it out to Emily Blunt, we just do what we can, and the cartels will just keep on coming.
To be fair, regarding the puking, I think the point was that all those corpses (all those inside the walls) were decomposing/decomposed, so it was the stench that got him, not the scene. Regarding the torture, I think that at the beginning the sicario was simply strangling him.
regarding the puking if it was smell how come none of those in the house were bothered by it until after. "the walls were shut"......walls aren't air tight. if a animal dies in the wall it is really really obvious because of the smell. I am pretty sure they were supposed to be bagged in air tight body bags to prevent the smell
Agree with Buck, Benicio double-tapping Emily Blount was so badass, partly because a) it was dismissive in a "bitch you are out of your element, and must have me confused with a lesser person" way b) it communicated how this overweight-looking older-dude possessed crazy lethal skills. A perfect casting, and shows how you can never judge a book by its cover. The quiet 50-year-old in the wrinkled business suit just might murder you in front of your wife and kids after killing a dozen of your bodyguards.
Imagine her face if she had steel plates.
With Benicio, I think his character needed to consciously limit himself to 2 rounds because he needed her disabled, but not outright kill her. Had to edit here because I was mi-remembering the movie and thought he still had his M4 when he cleared the tunnel. I was quite surprised he didn't change his M4 at the beginning of the tunnel op for a slower, harder punch, unless he needed to keep his involvement low-key. He does change to the pistol after he gets TO the police car, so I'll give him that.
@@ryanmarsh2 She probably would be still at the start of the tunnels. Wearing those plates without being used to them would wear you out quickly.
It was cool because he knew she had armor, and gave her a nice reminder
(In the form of a bruised or cracked rib) to never disrespect him.
@@chalion8399 he had his suppressed mp5 still in the tunnels in that moment
Sicario def one of my favorite movies in the past 5 years. It was so raw and shamelessly badass that dgaf about current society's political climate. Benicio del Toro killed that role. Whats crazy is if you see behind the scene interviews with Benicio he's a really light hearted nice guy. Nothing like his character at all. Thats testament to his capacity as a great actor.
The torture scene, I feel, is left up to interpretation. I don’t think he put his crotch in his face to eventually force it down his throat. He was invading his space, kinda saying “What now, bitch?”.
I really believe that the drain being dry shows that he’s torturing this dude in some which way and hasn’t even gotten to use the water yet. Maybe he was gagging him with his tie.🤷🏾♂️
I hope so lol
I just figured he was beatin the fuck outta dude, maybe he was going to water board him but then the heat of the moment got to him lol
Whatever helps you sleep
The water told everyone else outside the room that he's doing that method. When in reality, he's using what ever is necessary, i mean they did wipe his family out.
He's emasculating him. In the cartel world homophobia is still the norm. It's just an environment where hyper-masculinity is a virtue to be projected and protected at all costs. That's just icing on top of the fact that homophobic or not NO ONE wants somebody all up in their space like that. He was most definitely stripping that guy of his manhood right then and there, which would leave him even more vulnerable to subsequent interrogation. I don't believe for a second he actually put his dick in his mouth. Now, something else in his mouth not anatomy related? Very likely. It's still a truly fucked up scene. Not to mention that torture may get you quick answers, but not necessarily accurate or honest ones, which is the whole point of interrogation.
You have to stop thinking logically while watching movies my guy
The biggest point Buck is missing in the first scene is that is exactly how they did it in Phoenix on that raid. That scene is accurate to a T. That and the SRT team did in fact wear black-tac gear that day. Let's be honest here - Mexican foot soldiers who work for the cartel aren't that smart, much less, tactically smart. Maybe he can't say that for fear of being social-media canceled but I can say it because I just don't give AF about people who don't like hearing the truth.
2 Points here - 1 - Not *EVERY* combat situation portrayed in movies is off-the-top BS because you personally haven't experienced it and 2 - It's a movie, not a documentary.
What we have to appreciate is Kate's role as representing the journey/ voice of the audience. Most Americans would find most of the events appalling or jarring until we have fully gone down the rabbit hole of the reality of how bad the war against the Cartels is
Green Berets don't do nuance
@@Bubbles99718 they see things in black and white. That’s why they are struggling to read between the lines in the story telling.
@@strafer8764 ironic since the movie's theme is that you gotta operate in the grey areas
@@strafer8764I don’t think that’s necessarily true, I just think these guy have already made the “journey” so to speak. These guys already know this stuff so they just don’t see the point in her being there from their perspective. I can totally see why someone who already knows about this stuff can find her annoying
@@kingthlayerl.7349 lmfao no the movies theme according to the director is the pointlessness and futility of the drugwar. and then with the 2nd one it basically is just an action movie ala john wick
They literally picked her because of her high horse going by the book persona, because, in the end, they used her to sign off on this assination. Making her the perfect cover. Also, she had hope which made her naive. Her belief got her pretty fucking far which was also impressive but then she saw behind the curtain lol
I didn’t watch this one all the way through yet. But I wanted to jump in quick and ask if First Blood is on the list. Let me just say Sicario is a sick movie, and I agree the female agent is annoying.
First Blood! Noted.
@@FNGACADEMY Lone Survivor and 13 Hours.. Did you guys happen to see the tweet Killory Clinton did about, So Bill has Covid and we need to quarantine, any suggestions to Netflix binge?? Someone suggested 13 Hours.. LMAO..
I've the sequel. The first one and the unnecessary gay rape scene just turn a great movie to alright
@@FNGACADEMY can't be an Army guy and not do First Blood. Man... Childhood memories lol.
@@FNGACADEMY 4:47 Actually they almost never have to pay for damages to someone's property they raid even when it turns out they are wrong... its call Qualified Immunity
Here's just one of endless examples if you just search for "police qualified immunity property damage"
ruclips.net/video/dnDaWBum0iE/видео.html
5:33 you answer your own question why a lot of swat teams and police agencies use these methods because a lot of them used these exact tactics and approach when they served in the military and continue to use them when they leave the military to become LEOs. Its not their fault but they just go with what worked for them in the past. Its basically drilled into your mind to love to fuck shit up while youre in the military. "theres a time and place for it, and its not someones house" in Afghanistan that was still someones house... did you guys pay to fix it? prob never even thought about it. and thats the same mentality a lot of LEOs bring home and employ on americans.
I really love seeing movie breakdowns done by professionals. Especially when SOF people comment on miltitary/tactical stuff.
However, I think sh*tting on the FBI agent so much is a bit harsh (except for the bodies part, I agree).
I think (and yes I might be wrong) there still is a difference in the mentality of people between police and military. One is maintaining order, prosecuting criminals and preserving life.The other comes into play when civil interaction has basically ceased.
Soldiers train for being better at killing people than the other side and are given the tools to make sure they succeed. Weapons, training etc.
I am quite sure that being trained as a soldier deliberately also incorporates the "loosening" of the moral switch not to kill someone. The longer you do it, the easier it gets because you can justify it with things like "they were the bad guys". A normal human does not want to kill another human. But sometimes it is necessary.
I am not sh*tting on SOF either, although one might get the impression in some interviews that some of them have lost care for human life.
There are times where exactly this is needed.
What I am getting at is, dont hate on her too much for hesitating to mow down cartel guys, even if it is just a portrayed character.
There are people who are made for it, and there are people who aren't.
There is a reason why all SOF are looking (mostly) only for mentally stable and really tough people.
It is not for everybody, and that is okay.
Guy who categorizes FBI agents as police officers doesn’t categorize himself as soldier but green beret lol
they're professionals? could have fooled me lol
With so many mall security guards being former military, I wouldn't go too hard on "ooh the FBI is just cops"
FBI HRT deos not f**k around either.
@@ViperPilot16 yeah fax, they act likethe FBI are just regular patrol officers
I love this movie even with all it's Hollywood tactics. Like in a gun fight in a tunnel with no ear pro then taking to each other like nothing is happening! 😂 Abel made me laugh my ass off with his "admiration" for the chick! 🤣🤣 Good one boys!
thanks Jay!
Denver rourke's book said something along the lines of they shot without ear protection and the human body naturally took care of you. Is that legit or no then?
@@dillydoor I'm sure it could, but not talking to each other like there isn't 20 guns going off in a enclosed area. 🤣
Biologically speaking no, however, perceptually, the onset can be gradual so the loss might seem imperceptible to the operator even if quantitative testing will reveal loss of sensing certain sound frequencies and/or reduced sensitivity of certain frequencies
@dillydoor I've been on a firing line with no ear pro, 20+ other M16s going off, shot 9s and 22s with no ear pro (recreational shooting), been on gun trucks, etc. My hearing is still pretty good, but I assure you that running with no ear pro, even in outdoor environments, will damage your hearing. The ringing after getting blasted by some continuously loud noise and/or concussion is basically your ears dying a little bit.
Your brain will get used to loud noises, but it can't really prevent the damage.
One thing that always bugged me about the tunnel scene is no ear pro in a tight fucking tunnel firefight. No one hearing shit after and the VA aint letting you claim disability either
13:02 I relate to this part a lot, as someone who used to be affiliated with gang members in my early adulthood, and being in my early 30's now, and far detached from those dark times, I don't even get all that upset with the GANGSTER profiling anymore.
There really is a big difference between racial profiling and gangster profiling, because me and the gang members I used to hang around, we all did the same shit when identifying an enemy. Those exact details that you mentioned, with their demeanor, the need to keep a "mean mug" on if anyone even looks your way, rolling in packs, and all those minor details pointed out.
Picking up on that "vibe" becomes an instinct, and I totally understand how cops develop that so easily now.
Agreed. theres a big difference between what he's talking about and pulling over a random black guy because he's driving a Mercedes.
Brother, you hit the nail on the head. It was profiling, only it was dirtbag profiling. We didn’t care what color they were, only that that they checked the dirtbag box.
I'm going to defend Blunt's role. This is meant to be an allegory not documentary'ish/true story like Lone Survivor or 'realistic depiction' like Saving Private Ryan. Blunts role is the as the audience's avatar not as a badass. You're an operator so you see the position she finds herself in as exciting and an opportunity. She's not meant for you she's meant for your sweet Grandma or 8th grade band teacher. Yes, she's supposed to be an experienced law enforcement officer for the narrative. However, she needs act how the average never seen someone bleed out person would act, not how someone whose done a tour would act. She's there for the uninitiated audience to place themselves in her shoes.
Your points on tactics are spot on but this isn't a movie about tactics but larger strategy and policy choices everyday voters have to make. Blunt's character as it is there for the audience but also for the choice the movie asks the audience to make: This is how evil and horrible the drug cartels are and what they do. If we are going to solve the drug and crime issue with violence are willing to go this far to fight them? How willing are you to ignore the law and fight horror with horror? Without Blunt's character the movie is just a ra ra kill the bad guys. Just like without Del Toro's character it is just a liberal anti-violence piece of propaganda. To be far to the audience she needs to be one side of the coin while De Toro is the other.
Your problem is because you have already decided; for you she's just a snowflake getting in the way of the boys' fun. Your hippy dentist assistant whose protested against every war and drone strike since he/she's been alive probably hates Brolin's character just as much and think he's as evil and stupid as the drug lords. For both of you there is no question for this movie to beg; does the means justify the ends. Is stopping a drug lord worth killing a corrupt cop in a corrupt society just trying to feed his family and survive, leaving an orphan and widow. Because as of today some do want military intervention in Mexico and that will mean a lot, a whole lot of that.
Point being, you can review the tactics and that's cool and interesting. But you cannot critique the movie like you would Sands of Iwo Jima or Band of Brothers. I mean No Country for Old Men doesn't make any kind of real world sense either but it is still a great movie. You miss the point of Old Country is you're wrapped around silencers don't work like that and that car door wouldn't stop that round. Or, ain't now way an old school Texas sheriff would act like that.
I tuned out after the piss poor attempt at trying to say breaching the house with a apc wasn't accurate or ideal. These guys forget that drug cartels build their safe houses like fortresses just like HVTs in Afghanistan or Iraq also build their safe zones like fortresses. Makes me question the legitimacy of these guys tactical experience because that shit is just common sense.
The advisers were SEALs, so that final briefing makes sense. What doesn't make sense is Emily aka Kate rocking FULL AUTO on a hostage rescue mission. 🙃
She's a noob. She doesn't know what the fuck she is doing. Remember, the ONLY reason she is there is to provide a theoretical legal justification, for an armed CIA task force on American soil.
A lot of things with Emily aka Kate didn’t make sense in this movie
Yea definitely, no one uses full auto especially in cqb.
@@James_Edward59 I mean, that's the best time to use it. But not when there's supposed to be hostages.
@@curtism-w6b Are you talking about full auto or 3 round bursts? I never knew full auto was best used in cqb clearing structures. I always thought every round needed to be accounted for especially if there’s a hostage and you have it in full auto.
Pretty sure Alejandro was kicking the shit out the dude...
With the tunnel scene I figured it was kinda designed to be chaotic, so that Alejandro could sneak off and do his thing without blunt and her friend noticing. That's kinda why she has no idea what the fuck they are doing or why.
Also I felt like Emily Blunt's character was kinda the antagonist in this movie.
She was only there to give it a certain perspective, and it wouldn't have worked without her. I think the point was to contrast the "law and order" approach to the brutal reality of the situation.
I’m a simple man.
- FNG uploads a video
- I watch
- I enjoy
I’m a simple man.
boom!
They talk too much, well he talks too much.
I didnt know I needed a guy to take a dump on one of my favorite movies for 30 minutes... but turns out, i did.
Also most law enforcement agencies dont run clearing drills as often. They also have mixed agents or officers sometimes on busts and raids so the tactics get very, Blunt. In the Army we had more training then others in our own brigade and every time they brought out other MOS’s the CQB training was pretty terrible, or slow. Officers really dont get drill time on stacks and clearing, its pretty rough what i’ve seen in person from local enforcement, hell even FBI. These days training has gone to shit lol
Also the main agent is more rogue than he is a agent. And being in bed with CIA his tactics are more cartel then “good guy” because his whole purpose is to assassinate them. So prison style rape which is something that breaks gang members is not above his reproach for torture. He has no line anymore to achieve what he wants. And the agency lets him run wild for it. He’s an asset.
She's saying front and back plates because she is taking out the small side plates. The front and back plates are already in the carrier. Also I think the interegation scene infers Benicio giving the bad guy a golden shower. That's why he was chugging water beforehand. The coolest part of this film imo is the dynamic between the CIA/Delta Force guys versus the more innocent FBI officers and how their morals is struggling with the means being used but they still go along with it because they recognise it's going to put a dent in the Cartel and they want to make a difference. That's what I think this film is about. That's why Emily Blunts character is written the way she is.
Why didnt you show the final part. I loved seeing Alejandro taking revenge against the guy who killed his family! Was so satisfying!
The kids. Duh.
As someone who investigates cartel cells for a living, we do our homework...we'd know if there were women/children inside a target house and adjust accordingly. Give us more credit
Yeesh, this dude didnt grasp the point of Emily Blunt's character whatsoever. Completely over his head.
In the mission brief where it shows Delta guys, they are actually active SEALs that were in Texas at a military site the director was scouting and he saw them and asked if they’d be able to do a scene , turned out they were allowed to and the director told them to jsut do their thing how they would. There’s a RUclips video on it. Not sure why they didn’t jsut call them SEaLs but bad ass when u see the border scene to know it’s SEALs in their tactics.
If you're considering TV shows for Beers and Breakdowns, then I would really recommend the Mayor of Kingstown. The show it self is pretty good, imo, but there's some scenes intermixed in the season with some SWAT taking action and even the National Guard.
Love the videos!
Also thought Mayor of Kingstown was a pretty good show. Love how SWAT leader takes care of sht.
That house raid scene was really cool
@@noerosas7691 lol he wasn’t with the funnies, great show!
One of my favorite movies. Denis Villeneuve is a badass director.
Rewatching this and through the laughter I realized Buck is an excellent teacher of how to think clearly and logically. Pointing out mistakes and making them a teaching moment and commending smart tactical choices are the hallmarks of an exceptional instructor. His “criminally profiling” explanation definitely opened my eyes to see things from law enforcement POV, but he also empathized the reasons for why the majority of gangsters are gangsters for preservation of life. Top notch Buck! 🤟🏽🤟🏽✊🏽
This shows the difference between somebody who's used to killing and this kind of stuff, i.e., Buck, and somebody who isn't, i.e., Kate. It's supposed to be that way. Buck and his frustration hammers home the brilliance of this movie
Hey y'all! Can you please do a review of "Sabotage". I loved that movie! "Heat" would also be great, from the tactical and the police aspects. I think your channel is the best!
Emily Blunt's character is bureaucracy unwilling to accept the reality on the ground.
Moreover she is the Lawful Good of US Law Enforcement, where as Josh Brolin and Benecio Del Toro's characters are Chaotic Good within the CIA.
Ultimately, the two part series is one of the Law Enforcement arm of Bureaucracy, and then the over-encompassing Bureaucracy that withdraws when the political stakes are higher than the reward of effectively combatting Cartel Operations. You don't hit the drugs, you hit the means of production, their facilities, and their men.
And that's something Americans in the general populace, and many in Government (many who PROFIT off the War on Drugs, War on Human Trafficking, and War on Terror), are unwilling to accept.
Josh and Benecio's portrayal of effective policy in complete disregard for "American Ethics" with Foreign Policy is what American National Security needs, not what it wants.
The film, as a whole, portrays that the war is ugly, dirty, unfair, and even the FBI Superiors she tried to sic on Josh and Benecio's characters, agreed with the change in strategy. They straight up told her, in their follow on briefing of activity, that they weren't winning. They even asked her, with the amount of convictions and arrests and confiscation of narcotics and rescue of hostages and trafficked humans, they were not seeing an end, just an ever expanding battle that they were already beginning to see would stretch them to the breaking point just trying to contain.
Essentially, the ideological principle behind the whole film is that Josh and Benecio's characters are trying to shine light on an offensive strategy against the Cartels by destabilizing Mexico's very precipitous inter-Cartel stability. By keeping them fighting in their own country over the means of trafficking and cross-border operations, rather than focused on the actual operations of cross-border activity, they can limit the amount of drugs flowing in to the US.
Its not a 100% solution, but its better than knee-jerk, reactionary operations that place a salve on an open wound that's festering and becoming gangrenous with inactivity and lack of resolve to actually STOP the problem.
you are correct.
Emily Blunt's character is the viewer, it's us in that new scenario, hence she follows the ethical moral compass we expect a legit and fair government to follow.
The last scene of gun fires confirms that whatever US is doing there, whether it's legal or illegall isn't working. Cycle of violence continues.. It's actually similar to lot of wars US end up fighting around the world etc..
Brilliant story telling, but I see lot of people not understanding the last scene or Emily's character. That's what makes this great suspense thriller a masterpiece.
@@wathsi99 You're making an overall grand strategy assumption based on a presupposition that ONLY when the US gets involved, does violence tend to escalate... Rather than the overall perspective that violence is inherently just a human trait regardless of whatever subliminal or overt motivations may exist. Which, in itself, is rather intellectually baseless and bankrupt.
You can't solve violence with pacifism. And you don't win by being on the defensive. The evidence in our reality proves this as true. More drugs get into the US than the drugs our CBP and DEA actively managed to confiscate at border crossings and in stings. And the Cartels are increasing their overall strangle hold on Border Towns and the crossings.
This alternate world of CIA operations designed to destabilize is the posed idea of "What If?" in which the US Department of Defense and Department of Justice recognized, in a moment of brilliance and logic, that being objectively defensive with an issue that is proactively becoming more offensive in its grand and targeted stratagems and tactics from the Cartels' Operations is counter intuitive to solving the problem.
AKA: Getting on the offensive and making them fight in their own backyard, rather than allowing them to cause chaos in ours, is objectively better in a basic understanding of "War".
@@JohnDoe-wt9ek Despite having done exactly that for decades, America today is in a worse state than decades ago so your overall point seems increasingly shortsighted.
There will always be wolves, which is why no form of government guarantees any long-term success. Having an increased divide between rich and poor in the world will only draw more wolves out of the forest in the search for food.
@@LSmallCatL You missed the second paragraph where I objectively stated that it has gotten worse, and the third paragraph of this whole scenario being a "What if?" in which DOD and DOJ actually had a semblance of logic and practical execution of law and military operations.
The Government actually having a solution and executing that solution to its fullest extent has never occurred in history.
The Prohibition.
The War on Drugs.
The stupidity of the War on Firearms.
The War on Poverty (ironically enough).
The recognition that whatever the government touches makes it proactively worse is not beyond me.
I served the damn system and the ineptitude of Bureaucracy and Politics made it inefficient, slow, and gluttonous, while presuming to be a powerful force for good.
The divide between rich and poor is only relevant because of the voting habits of Americans for the last 60 years electing self-serving pricks who have been in office longer than I've been walking this earth...
Larry Vickers did a review on this as well. He speculated, and i believe it since he knows way more about it than I probably ever will, they probably had SEAL advisors, just on what the SMU carried. For real though, Emily blunt was annoying af. But I think she’s also in it for the average viewer that knows little about clandestine shenanigans.
Can’t wait for Sicario 2
The second movie came out 4 years ago..
@@shipfaced6989 I think he's meaning a breakdown
@@Tofu61 ahh, makes sense
I believe Vickers pointed out on the border shootout scene, the guy with the glasses in the front passenger seat had slide lock on his AR prior to getting out of the vehicle.
Side note on the interrogation scene. It's called "breaking the buck". Basically he's being sodomized to break his pride . A tactic used in the slave trade and still used amongst warlords today. It's just as gross for the ppl that are present... Stay safe gentlemen. Good review
A cool little tidbit I read about this movie when I watched it is that Steve Forsing (Jeffrey Donovan) is based on Mike Vinning; one of the original Delta Force legends from Desert Storm.
Just going to throw this out there, I watched a video on the making of Sacario. The Emily blunt character was originally written for a man to play but they changed it because they didn’t think a man would be able to stick to his convictions. Not that the host in this video is t sticking to his convictions but you can CLEARLY see how he says he would just have the time of his life in her situation. That exactly why her character existed. Kind of a main part of the movie.
When he shoots her and he laughs like that , that was my exact reaction 😂😂😂
Wish you would have shown the last scene where he commented "you're not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves. You will not survive." That phrase was the entirety of this film.
The Soundtrack! Just bringing me nightmares! Amazing soundtrack! AMAZING!
Lol straight up I disagree so much.
There is a lot of thought behind Emily Blunt character.
Firstly this is one of the better written female lead protagonists in an action movie in the last 10 years or so. You could say she is less "competent" than her colleagues because she has less experience and makes mistakes but in some ways she is the most competent because she is the only one that actually wants to figure out what is going on and willing to stop it.
Also it's a great character for storytelling, since we as the audience are just as a clueless to what is going on as she is and seeing it through her eyes works perfectly.
From the narrative perspective, her having less experience also makes perfect sense because nobody cares about the outcome of her investigation. So they might as well throw a "silly girl" in a center of it all and not risk anything by doing that.
Sicario is such a brilliant film. :) Like as far as the camera work (that sunset scene with the silhouettes of the soldiers was amazing) characters and how it makes us question 'right and wrong'. I also loved the acting. One of my favorite films. Thanks for this inside look into real thing.
Dude, you ain't killing no one and "finding work" if you were called to this. They don't want your ass there 😂
As a fed myself one thing I found interesting was how The contractor had attained such a high clearance level to be at these black sites and move freely around the facility. Very interesting.
wich agency do you work for if you dont mind answering?
@@dripy_fps9622 DHS. Was with Treasury before that.
This dude works in HR. @@dripy_fps9622
CIA pulling some strings.
Buck is one those guys that enjoy shitting on mistakes instead of correcting.
I saw someone make the point that the FBI agent is no the protagonist in this movie but Benicio's character is. Which makes so much sense and explains your impression too.
Noice, waiting for Sicario 2 soon
Drops next Sunday!
@@FNGACADEMY REALLY?! COOL!
Really cool getting your take as both a special forces veteran and police officer, Buck! Always love getting your experienced input
@FNG ACADEMY both dude's reaction to scene in movie:
Buck- "Oh, shut the fuck up, bitch!"
Abel- ". . .But she's a beautiful woman, bro."
Fucking priceless!
Buck 100%
3:57 I feel like since they were so obvious moving towards the house, It would honestly be surprising if someone didn't notice them and just prepared for a breach. So yeah it could be a violent breach, but they could have just barricaded at the opposite side of the room to wait for them.
You guys do such a great job adding context and praising the good things the movie does and get right. It’s a pleasure listening to you both reacting to this
I’ve seen tons of military folks who react to military movies and love just shitting on them for no reason. It’s fine to do that if you want, but no one wants to watch that for a reaction video
Kudos gentlemen!
I was hoping to hear y’all talk about the suppressed mp5 that magically turned into a mp5sd with a taped on red dot sight. M4 with the BCG locked back!
@sagerette No, experts notice stuff like that, looking for it or not. Historical weapons experts notice the same things with period movies/shows using the wrong weapons and armor, people in medical professions notice things like idiots pulling out impaled objects because it "looks badass", science people notice ridiculous things like "dark matter asteroids", etc. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far, especially when it's something in your field drawing the attention.
@@logicplague I notice that kind of shit all the time in movies. M4's with the dust cover closed, brass that are clearly blanks (both flying through the air after ejecting and also on mag changes), and other stuff. Being a gun guy who worked on fighter jets (F-15E's in the AF) makes watching war movies an exercise in 'how much stupid can I ignore?'.
Excellent! I knew you’d get to this eventually! Thanks!!
Yessir!
The reason from Emily Blunts FBI agent is because the CIA could not operative on US soil without another domestic agency attached to it, I believe that was the reason given by the CIA guy at the end.
*Mexican soil. C'mon man the CIA LITERALLY has US jurisdiction. 🙄🤦🏽♂️
It's been a while since I saw the movie but the entire operation was a smoke screen in order to force the cartel leader back home so the hitman could travel into Mexico to be killed. Like searching the banks and searching for the tunnels. The CIA collects information only regarding foreign countries and their citizens. Unlike the FBI, it is prohibited from collecting information regarding “U.S. Persons,” a term that includes U.S. citizens, resident aliens, legal immigrants, and U.S. corporations, regardless of where they are located.
It's why at the end Alejandro I think his name was forced Emily blunts character who is fbi to say everything they did on the us side was legal and by the book.
The whole breach with the vehicle scene actually reminds me a little of what happened when feds went up against David Koresh and his followers in Waco many years ago. If I remember correctly they actually employed the use of a National Guard tank with a battering ram. That was a very sad ending to a horrible event in our nations history.
Guy who categorizes FBI agents as police officers doesn’t categorize himself as soldier but green beret lol
Buck’s Bro is like “Dang Buck are you lying about those therapy sessions you are going to?”
Yep, the scene where she got tapped for trying to give orders. Priceless. You forgot to mention them in the tunnel, dumping half the military ammo budget down range with NO EAR PRO! You are all now retired on a medical because you're all deaf. Auditory exclusion doesn't defy physics. The over pressure on your ear drums from that? F&%k that. I don't even like shooting indoor ranges WITH ears. Spot on analysis with this one. Her character all but ruined the movie. 👍🏼👍🏼
Blunt's character was the antagonist of the movie. She was supposed to represent the innocence and ignorance of the audience. To me, it was way overdone. The way she acted almost took me out of the movie completely. She was too naive and insubordinate. She should have known why she was there after Brolin's character kept her in the dark about operations. Also, the bank scene just irritated me to no end. She almost blew the operation by being a dumbass.
@@chuckhoyle1211 Excellent analysis. Agree on all fronts. Worked for the Bureau a ways back. Women weren't and just plain didn't WANT to be on tactical teams.🙄 House clearing scene at the beginning and the technical accuracy was just bad writing in the script for policorrect BS and just way too whiny for a "tough rising star" in the Bureau. She/her character, was better in Day After Tomorrow.
Looking forward to this, definitely one of my favorite more recent movies
it was awesome
you guys made my lousy day jolly by frying Emily Blunt's FBI character...DANG! 👍👍
I watched a video describing how Emily Blunts character is actuly the main antagonist in this film, and I would have to agree.
She was a big ole wet blanket.
When she told Josh Brolin’s character that she was going to inform on them I was like “Huh”
Her and her partner are out on the middle of the desert at night. They are surrounded by a team of experienced killers. He is being restrained at gun and she is loudly saying “As soon as I get back to the office, I’m telling”.
I thought that was extremely hard to believe.
Her character is what a normal, fully functioning person would be if it was their first experience with a , what basically amounts to a kill team, against a cartel. She is the eyes of the viewer.
I saw a good analysis of this movie and they had a good argument that Emily's character was the antagonist, not the protagonist. The lawyer is the protagonist.
Hmm. I’ll have to think on that. I’ve always seen the water cooler jug in the torture scene as the protagonist of the movie.
Phenomenal analysis, and funny as hell 👍
SICARIO still one of my top favorite movies... respect to our soilders cuz they light shyt up!
Rewatching the movie after seeing this movie review.
The commentary about ninjas in the middle of the desert is hilarious. To add on to this... in the first minute of the movie as the ninjas are closing in on the house, you can see someone in the street walking their dog in the direction of the stealthy ninjas . I can only imagine what would have been going their head if it was a real scenario.
Me and my dog Scoob would been like "ruh roh" run the other way and not checked out that mystery! Desert Ninjas Zoinks!
I agree Emily was so Annoying but it shows how good of an actor she is! She played her character well!
Idk y pple hate her character so much. Without her character there wouldn't be sicario
Hating her character is a good thing. Most people with half a brain acknowledge that Blunt nailed her role but her character is a real pain. @@erenjaeger1738
@@erenjaeger1738 LOL sure...
@@damianplasencia2708 She serves as the audience's POV throughout the movie. As she learns information, we learn information. A conduit. She also represents the classic, outdated idea of "good guys vs. bad guys", the idea that the world is governed by rules and "good guys" are expected to follow them. As the movie progresses, and her utility is revealed as just a way to legitimize the actions of the rest of the team, her fundamental world view begins to crumble. Her character plays a key part both thematically and structurally, until the POV switches to Alejandro in the third act.
You were talking about everyone getting a shot on the guy in the room. A life long friend of mine was in the battle for Fallujah. He got trashed with us one night years back and started talking about stuff (he never talks about this shit) and brought up how they would walk on people in rooms and if they heard them make a noise while getting stepped on they would put more rounds into them. Crazy shit....
that's how you fight and win a war
@@joshuaortiz2031 very true. Crazy shit none the less for a 19 year old.
@@snakeinthegrak8969 Fallujah was a uniquely brutal battle. The Marines had to slug it out with the insurgency block by block. The entire city was hostile. Kind of like a bigger Mogadishu but instead of running away like the rangers did in Somalia, the USMC kicked everyone's ass.
@@joshuaortiz2031 @snakeinthegra$$ k That's how you guys justify killing people might be innocent? Sick psychopaths.
About the breach with the truck:
They cleary approached the house like a normal truck, turned around and then tried to penetrate the wall with a large surface. Thats friggin dumb
- they alarm everyone by turning and reversing with this monster and loose the element of surprise (i would certainly look out the window if a black truck wrrrroooooomed in front of my house..)
- they could just get their hatch stuck
- like he said, they build themselfes a fatal funnel for all members of the team
- They have practically no cover when entering and something goes wrong
- they create debri and dust, so nobody can see
- they may even provoke a cave in and damage the building too much to be safe inside
- they have no way of retreat
- they probably damage their truck...
"She is the worst person in this movie"
Bro, I feel that. Absolutely hated her in this.
The fact that everyone in the tunnel gun fight wasn't deaf as a post afterwards was amazing.... come on either suppress the weapons or have them wearing some type of ear pro.
Y’all really killed the mood.
I haven't laughed this hard in a while! You guys are awesome and Buck is a hoot! Just subscribed.
I love how you have distain for Emily Blunt's character. That's the idea. If you think of it from a logical standpoint she's actually the antagonist in the movie. She holds herself to these lofty ideals, but she's completely oblivious to how the world actually works. Fighting a war is messy, whether it's the "drug war" or in Afghanistan. She actually hinders the mission, and is shown through the course of the movie either unintentionally slowing it down due to being a liability, or intentionally where she wants things done "by the book."
I had a problem with her character being so naive. There is no way that any LEO or agent working Kidnapping and Human Trafficking along the border for more than a month or two wouldn't know what the hell is going on.
Good take on this character
@@jsbcodyI think her character was never this deep into fighting the cartel. She was basically just an investigator for the Cartel
@@xmanc5687 She was leading the FBI regional kidnapping and human trafficking team with numerous operations under her belt.
Hard to tell but it doesn't appear anyone has plugs in. Non-suppressed engagement in confined space is a recipe for "huh"---"what". There was a time in my life where I thought the ringing would never stop, took about a week...
The funny thing is that Buck looks like Emily Blunt's husband, John Krasinski. I can't stop smiling) Emily is a good actress and she just has such a character.
It's all so funny)
Im really surprised Buck didn't go off on two occasions during the Border scene, Benicio del Toro flagging the shit out of Emily's face with his rifle and Jeffrey Donovan having his bolt to the rear while unlocking his door.
Also Im hoping you'll breakdown The kill team, it would be really interesting to hear your thoughts on it!
Yeah Benicio definitely did a muzzle sweep across her face. While they were in a confined situation with cameras inside the vehicle, he could have easily swept low and brought the gun up.
You watched the Vikers Tactical reaction! Don’t act like you caught it the 1st time hahaha
you'd be surprised, theres several podcasts with ex-ST6 guys saying flagging isn't a big deal and it happens all the time in CQB when rolling down two parallel hall ways or in other similar instances. Can't remember which guy said it on Shawn Ryan's podcast, but he was like they went through every scenario to mitigate flagging and/or shooting your teammate in a situation like that and they came to the conclusion to "just don't shoot your fucking buddy, its gonna happen coming around corners/ during cqb in general". He likened it to the Black hawk down trigger finger safety scene lol but not that crazy of riding hot in a chow hall.
I get flagging her in the car is different, but with tier 1 training and no-fuck ups allowed or you're done discipline, I'd say they aren't worried about flagging someone in certain situations. I know this makes range guys and regular shooters heads explode hearing this shit, but if you seen these guys work, these guys are pros. I agree, I don't want the random weekend at the range flagging me or some security force dude at the front gate, being a no-shit shooter and cqb pro isn't those guys job.
Its a movie its not that serious.
I'm pissed that he flagged her and didn't pull the trigger.
Emily Blunt is definitely the villain of the movie, and that's what makes this movie so damn good. Great review!
Why is she the villain?
@@cosmokramer7396 If you notice, her character always seemed to have a problem (especially towards the beginning of the movie) with going against "the book". She even runs to her superior and tries to complain about not following procedure, and her boss told her flat out "If your fear is operating out of bounds, I'm telling you - you are not."
After this, she continues to oppose Matt and Alejandro, but it becomes more and more clear that Kate isn't so much trying to follow "the book"; she's trying to force them to do things "her way". Most characters in a movie have an arc or progression, she never comes around throughout the entirety movie; hence why Buck hates her so much in this review!
The pure joy in your face when she gets popped…..absolutely giddy!!! That was awesome!!! Hahahahahahaha
most people covered a lot of the points about the tunnel and Emily's character pretty well. but wanted to point out the FBI raid in the beginning, i did think it was odd they'd be in black in the desert during the day but i think the issue is that it's immediately obvious they're FBI/SWAT to your average movie-goer, where if they were in camo the audience has to parse whether they're military or not and what they're actually doing there if they are. the driving through the wall thing definitely was a bit odd too, but was shock-and-awe to start shaking up the audience and get them off guard as it does throughout the movie. it can't always be a training manual when the ultimate point is to drive a story.
When I first got out I used to do the same thing with movies but I realized quickly it’s just a damn movie and enjoy it 😂 stop it 😂
I watched this movie and on the 1st run through I was shaking my head for a lot of the reasons you pointed out and I'm just a civilian. Pet hates for me in any gun movie are the damn guns making noises whenever they are moved like WTF?
It's like how some talk radio programs capture and horrifyingly amplify mouth noises. 🙉
Fuck yeah, been waiting for this breakdown. Also, I would say Emilie Blunt’s character is actually the villain in this whole thing
Antagonist, for sure - but she isn't a villain because she doesn't do anything villainous
@@unbearifiedbear1885 Imagine thinking someone trying to uphold the law is the villain
that's the world we are living it
@@TheJunmengo lol mad indeed