IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF IBN RUSHD - Navigating Philosophical Frontiers in Islam
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Philosophy has been revered for many millennia across the world. Apart from the various forms of religion, philosophy has provided us with answers to existential questions that humanity has asked itself since the dawn of time. Unfortunately, it hasn’t had the same luck with the Muslim nation and more specifically with the Arab Muslim world. As a science, it has been looked down on and frowned upon by Muslim scholars since the Golden Age of Islam. And this position has led to the same disrespect applied by modern Arab society onto the science and its relevance to our earthly life.
In this video we look at the negative perspective that exists for Arab Muslims and with that exploration we explore one of the leading Muslim philosophers, ibn Rushd, known to the West as Averroes, who’s treatises and dialogues concerning revelation and reason was at the heart of the arguments for and against philosophy in Islam. We further into ibn Rushd’s life and his impact not only on Islamic philosophy but the effect he had on the civilised world’s philosophic recourse from the Middle Ages and onwards to the pre modern era.
All my appreciation to my friend Mustafa for inspiring this video. Not only have you been a wonderful commentator on my works to date but also extremely helpful in improving the content on this channel.
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Nobu-Naga it is a pleasure having you together with us on this journey, myself and the other viewers.
What a fascinating video. I’m so pleased to hear that Ibn Rushd had respect for women. 💖
I had no idea that jumbo jumbo was frowned upon in every culture. I thought it was just my family being annoyed at my analysing everything.
I’m so glad this hit home with you. Mumbo jumbo is a common perception that is unfortunately severely lazy. But what to do. Be patient and repackage the points you want to make in a more palatable manner. Only way NGC.
I really appreciate your comment and Tareq's response .. both gave me a nice very needed out loud chuckle!!
You are a chuckler Brenda!
@@thekandarichronicles Well thankyou, for I've been called much worse, so I'll take this as a compliment!
Thank you Taqek👍Informative as always💥
My pleasure
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Really glad you liked and thank you so much for your amazing encouragement.
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That's a great observation! Great catch. I am yet to be convinced of the AI aesthetic for the creation of totally. new imagery. Still not enough control. The AI I do use though is to improve the real photos I use so that the visual experience is a much better one.
Inshallah the subscribers will come.
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Brother Tarek-YOUR VLOGS ARE MASTERPIECE-KEEP ON EDUCATING US.THANKS
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This topic has been bothering me for quite a while now. So glad someone finally brought it up. Thanks for this amazing content.
Incredible Tareq. Keep it coming.
Hamza. No worries. Every Sunday and inshallah sooner than later, more often and better quality.
@@thekandarichroniclesSounds good ya akhi
As always, a unique and original presentation. I wonder, is there a preoccupation in the Arab world with the question of our existence? You know, why am I here, what’s the meaning of life and such. I personally always found it absurd as we are an expression of life and if there is any meaning to it, it’s for us to be one with it as we are all connected, but I believe the Western philosophy turned that on its head and internalized it. Just wondering how this meaning of life is seen in the Arab world?
Hakukuze7947 you ask a very important question. Also a piercing one. There is no "pre occupation" per se. Is it real question posed by Arabs? I am sure. Not just the why but what was it all for? But for Muslims there is strong recourse. The finality of faith, and the pursuit of an afterlife are common suppliers of comfort that are much more powerful than any philosophical rationalisation.
@@thekandarichronicles Thanks. It’s along the lines of what I thought. Faith carries differently in the two cultures or maybe just at a different general intensity
Another awesome and informative video. Thank you Tareq.
A bright future for this channel insha'Allah..
Hi Shadi. My pleasure and thank you so much for your amazing support.
The problem is with the definitions. What people met back then by philosophy is Greek thought.
Thats a great perspective LeekyKale. Thanks for sharing.
Amazing video enjoyed it thoroughly❤
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أخي طارق بحكم تخصصك بالعمارة اقترح عمل فيديو عن اختلافات فنون العمارة في الحضارات العربية القديمة بفديو واحد تبرز الدور الحضاري للعرب قبل الإسلام مثل ( البتراء و مدائن صالح ومغائر شعيب ومملكة ددان ومملكة الحضر و مملكة سبأ ووملكة معين ومملكة الحيرة ومملكة قتابان الخ..) من اليمن جنوباً حتى بادية الشام والعراق والأحواز .
وموضوع عن فوارق هذه الحضارت في تخطيط المدن الحضارية العربية بداية من مركز المدينة ثم من أسوار وحصون وازقة وطرقات و وفنون في العمارة والهندسة الخ.. وكذلك توزيعات وتخطيط المنازل والقصور .
نفس الشيء مابعد الإسلام كيف خطط و بنى العرب المدن العربية من الصفر لتكون مدن نموذجية للحياة بعد هجرتهم إليها كالموصل والبصرة وسامراء وبغداد والقاهرة وحلوان وتونس والقيروان ومدريد الخ.
الموضوع الآخر يمكنك الحديث عن الفنون الزخرفية وانواعها واشكالها في الحضارة العربية الإسلامية بشكل مستقل وكذلك الحضارات الإسلامية الأخرى في فيلم واحد .
ربما تستحق هذه الكتب مشاريع بحثية لرسائل دكتوراة .
اقتراحاتك جيدة. وتحتاج هيكل تنظيمي واضح لطرح جميع المواضيع والافكار الذي طرحتها. شكراً جزيلاً على المقترحات وراح انشاءالله اترجم بعضها الى محتوى جديد في المستقبل القريب.
@@thekandarichronicles ذكرت لك بعض المواضيع لأني اشاهد كثير من المسلمين ينسخون كلام شيوخ العرب بأن العرب كانوا في جاهلية قبل الإسلام والمقصود أنهُ جاهلية الدين وليس الحضارة ، لأن الأمم الأخرى كان لديهم ماهو اشنع بكثير من جاهلية العرب قبل الإسلام بينما العرب تميزوا بمكارم الأخلاق .
فمثلاً الحضارات التي تشد انظار العالم الآن هي البتراء وتدمر ومدائن صالح وسبأ والحضر الخ.. وهذه حضارات عربية
الأبجدية العربية سبقت الحضارة المصرية التي اعتمدت على الرموز وذكر د.عيد اليحيي ان الابجدية العربية عمرها أكثر من 7000 سنة
فمثلاً في الفلك كانوا العرب بارعين فيها قبل الإسلام
في الاكتشافات الآثرية تم اكتشاف مواقع للرسوم ثلاثية الأبعاد في سكاكا وهي الأقدم عالمياً وهذا دليل على براعة العرب في الفنون والرسم وسبقوا حضارات العالم في ذلك
في الفروسية بمملكة المقر تم اكتشاف اقدم تدجيل للخيل في وسط الجزيرة العربية
في الأدب العرب كانوا ولا يزالون أهل شعوب العالم فصاحة وأدب والأدب العربي غني بالشعر والحكم والأمثال والنثر الأدبي المبدع
في العلوم الحديثة الكثير من المعارف أسسها العرب كعلم الجغرافيا والاجتماع والكيمياء الخ.. وهذه علوم ليست علوم إسلامية .
فلماذا يقولون أننا أمة بدو بينما الحضارة نحن أهلها والعمارة العربية تشهد والأدب يشهد والكتب تشهد والتاريخ يشهد ؟
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Thanks so much Karaeyed5057. I really appreciate. this discovery and hopefully we on board together for a long time.
Top tier content as usual!
I plan on learning more about islamic, philosophical and religious history! Any tips to help me get stared on my learning journey? Any books in particular do you recommend?
Are you Muslim ?
Try AlMuqqadimah by Ibn Khaldoun. Great all round book that will open many other doors.
There are other influential Muslim philosophers in the world, such as: Ibn Taymiyyah, Al-Kindi and Ibn Al-Tufayl.
Dr. says Abu Ya'arub Al-Marzouqi (د.أبو يعرب المرزوقي )said that Ibn Taymiyyah is the greatest philosopher in Arab-Islamic civilization
Dr. Tayeb Bouazza (د. الطيب بوعزة )also says that Ibn Taymiyyah is more accurate and knowledgeable in the science of logic, and he is the most revealing of its imbalances and errors.
Al-Kindi, who is the father of Arab philosophy, and Al-Kindi’s contributions to philosophy in transferring philosophical sciences from the Greek language to Arabic. He worked to adapt Greek philosophy to fit Islamic teachings and used the experience to save some of the philosophers’ opinions, and he had some philosophical opinions.
Ibn Al-Tufayl had contributions that translated some of his books into Western languages, such as the book Hayy Ibn Yaqdan, which was discussed by Western philosophers at that time.
Yallah Abdullah. Yes you are absolutely correct on the quantity of Muslim philosophers. You have listed the some of the most renowned in your commentary and thats a great place to start for those that want to discover more about the topic. Hopefully there will be more content on philosophers and I won't be surprised if one of the thinkers you listed will be the focus.
Ur presentation is what makes it more intresting
U know when to show what
Thank you so much Mr Blue Sky 12318. Appreciate that you are enjoying both the content and the composition.
This is genius
Andalusian, Muslim, philosopher and feminist. That guy was clearly bright. It must also be said that the Cordoba Caliphate and even its successor states, the Taifa Kingdoms, were very unusually illustrated from the Islamic World, very especial in all aspects, almost like Renaissance Italy but centuries earlier and without the pesky Pope and his annoying Inquisition.
Couldn't agree more Luis.
1 philosophy is kinda usless in our actual life
2 it could be very useful for our mental state
3 there were great philosophers in İslam
4 in some points in time it was seen as mumbojumbo
5 it was not allowed in some places to study from non Muslims
6 people that studded the Quran realized it is actually against any Islamic law to ever prohibit the act of finding the truth by means of research
7 today and in many other points of times In many Arab countries we do learn philosophy (eg in Syria we learn philosophy from grades 9 to 12)
Hi Abd. That is a great summary of points along Muslim history relative to philosophy. Greatly appreciated.
@@thekandarichronicles anything i can do to make your channel grow a little i am more than happy to help
Your the one doing the hard work for all of us
Philosophy is the natural state of the intelligent person and all sciences are nothing but slices of philosophy. It's not something useless at all: extremely useful for all those otherwise mindless times at work, transportation or just walking around, sometimes it may open you absolutely new almost unexplored paths that nobody else can even see in their tiny bubbles of "pragmatism" and evasion (mostly evasion, pragmatism is psychologically crushing, soul-devastating, at least in excess).
The problem with philosophy (but also with mysticism and anything slightly free and creative) is dogma. When you have a truth and you think your truth is the only truth and that everybody else must abide by that "truth", then we have a problem of intolerance and inquisition. In the words of another more modern Andalusian great mind, Antonio Machado:
"Your truth not, Truth
And come with me in search of it
Your truth
Keep it for yourself".
@@LuisAldamiz
exactly couldn't agree more
İ just want to make it clear that
İslam is a religion of science
İslam teachs us to never impose it as the truth to anyone
And it also teaches us to look for other truth's and do science
But it's bad actors who felt like they have the final truth in İslam who tried to impose the idea of stopping others from trying to find another truth
And is also the reason for many stoping to search for the truth
(When i say search for the truth i mean think about how other things could be true )
Mohamad always said never tell someone your wrong just because he is searching in something that we all Muslims agree is wrong
He said how are we asking for people to search for our truth if our people can't look into others
And many proud Muslims at the time of Mohammed were actively researching into all kinds of new science and other religions
İt's those that were changing what İslam is that don't want you to see how it's obviously wrong to stop the progrtion of science
İt's hard for me to explain how İslam is a religion of science when many people today are trying to change that
@@LuisAldamiz
exactly couldn't agree more
İ just want to make it clear that
İslam is a religion of science
İslam teachs us to never impose it as the truth to anyone
And it also teaches us to look for other truth's and do science
But it's bad actors who felt like they have the final truth in İslam who tried to impose the idea of stopping others from trying to find another truth
And is also the reason for many stoping to search for the truth
(When i say search for the truth i mean think about how other things could be true )
Mohamad always said never tell someone your wrong just because he is searching in something that we all Muslims agree is wrong
He said how are we asking for people to search for our truth if our people can't look into others
And many proud Muslims at the time of Mohammed were actively researching into all kinds of new science and other religions
İt's those that were changing what İslam is that don't want you to see how it's obviously wrong to stop the progrtion of science
İt's hard for me to explain how İslam is a religion of science when many people today are trying to change that
Within revealed religion there has to be a limit to questioning. There would have to be, no matter how progressive one is. It would not be possible, for example to question the existence of God. Let me rephrase that, it could be possible to question the existence of God, but never to answer in the negative.
I dont think the presence of God needs to be questioned at all. There are many questions that necessitate the application of curiosity.
@@thekandarichronicles I dig Ibn Rushd. I made my comment from the perspective of an atheist, which I am.
As a muslim myself, why do you think that in principle I cannot question whether God exists? I surely can question it all I want and still choose to believe that God does exist.
I'll give you an example that you might understand better. One can rationally argue for Solipsism for example, you can question the existence of anything other than your own mind, you can analyse it all you want. But at the end of the day, whether you want to believe it and live by it or not, is actually up to you.
A theist can question the existence of God, analyse it all they want but at the end of the day they can still choose to believe in God. No one is "forced" to believe. I believe in God because I literally chose to. Because it makes my mortal human life much more meaningful, it allows me to live a moral honest life. You can argue that I'm biased since I'm only Muslim because my parents raised me as one, but when you inherit something you can either throw it in the trash or appreciate and use it. To me Islam is a great intellectual and spiritual heritage that I inherited from my parents, from their parents,...etc.
Hmm i do agree with the look of Arabs on philosophy in conversations but i would say westerns have the same reaction if someone start quoting philosophers. BTW are you an Iraqi?
I understand your point but Arabs have a much more pessimistic view unfortunately.
I am from Kuwait.
@@thekandarichronicles maybe so indeed, love Kuwaiti people from Iraq.
Okay okay, I will reconsider philosophy. I have never liked it. And the words La Titfalsaf is what my mind says (even though I never heard the word before). In discussing faith with a Christian friend and he went into philosophical levels, my mind was just "La Titfalsaf." It's hard to understand Christianity but when he adds philosophical layers, it's over. I never like to question: where did we come from, why is there evil, where do we go after death. My faith is enough. I am not curious to wonder. There's enough to do here to live my principles and serve the community.
That’s a wonderful comment and thank you for the insight and honesty. I think there should be a middle ground. Questioning shouldn’t be ambit existentialism or reason for being but more about terrestrial things and how things work, inquiry that can lead to innovation.
I think faith and philosophy are completely separate. I think that at some level you kind of "fear" questioning because you "fear" losing your faith. But that's a wrong way to look at it. You choose your faith, no one will take it away from you. Because atheists like to think that if you think long enough rationally you must conclude that God doesn't exist. But that is not true, it's just what they choose to believe and you can keep believing what you want whilst still be able to comfortably question everything.
Was he a Prophet who received Wahi or just a rational thinker who speculated like thousands of others?
No Wahi (Holy Spirit) Salik. Rationalist. But I wouldn't say like thousands of others.
Arabs got honored when the complete massege of Allah revealed to them, their role in Human civilization is to cater this religion, the only religion that is true and have the cure for all the illness the humanity has.
I can see thier perspective, philosophy is about asking questions,
when you have all the answers revealed to you by your God and all the details highlighted by his profit why do you want to ask more questions?
If you can look at the Arab history, they were nothing until they had this religion, after that in 23 years they became a superpower only to last for 300 years that’s when the philosophy entered their cultural feild, that’s when they started to decay
No. The answers in the Quran are not explicit, so they require interpretation and therefore require questions. And also no, the Arab world did not become a power because of Islam, before Islam it was already a civilization. And the Muslim world did not fall because of philosophy, quite the opposite, at the height of critical thinking there were the various technological innovations that Muslims launched to the world. The Islamic world only fell because of laziness in thinking and the lack of unity among nations
What are you talking about? The Arab world of today were the descendants of the first and greatest human civilizations, like Babylon, Sumerians, Phoenicians, Neabetans, Canaan, ancient Egypt...etc. You know nothing about history.
Islam as a religion did not perpetuate question, I mean the Quran is clear, Islam tells you to believe that there is a God in charge of everything and you have to submit, you will to this creator, you have to start working and growing your life, your planet and even your inner self instead of sinking in an endless questions that lacks the ability to be answered
If you don't question everything you'll become a mindless servant who just obeys orders, not too different from a donkey. That's certainly not what Islam teaches us to be. Allah says" إنما يخشى الله من عباده العلماء" meaning those who fear God the most are the one's with most knowledge. Because when you're knowledgeable you don't just mindlessly obey orders, but you "know" what it means to follow Allah, you "know" the right path. And without questioning you can't reach higher levels of knowledge.
Dear Tareq, yes I think that to Keep questioning is the key to find truth and real answers.
I will always find time to watch your videos because they are enlightening.
Thank you.
Well said EstadodePalestina. And I will always be creating improved content from a quality and quantity perspective.
@@thekandarichronicles Excellent!!
Uf Kandari, you started promising, analytical, and then you slid on the slippery slope of insecurity and Feeble Islamic Apologia. Ibn Rush was a colossus for Western thinkers and much as you selected some images to show Western disrespected for him, Ibn Rushd had been deeply etched in Western Consciousness as the Teacher, not just Commentator; one who helped transmit Ancient Greek philosophy to Christian Europe and thus helped usher the Renaissance. To not do this as required by good manners shows how much you hate the West and how you try to blame the West for Islamic shortcomings. Why do you hate this much Kandari?, why can't you raise above hatred and be equidistant and fair? Without proportionality there is no justice! Now, should you had spoken about the fundamental conflict between Al Ghazali treachery - he sold the rational Islam in favor of revelation - under the pressure of the Nizam-al-Mulk who served the Seljuk interests, Seljuks being primitive and violent minds who never bothered with philosophy and sciences...then you would have invited the next level of awareness in your discourse. Meaning how the destruction of rational - scientific - philosophical Islam was destroyed from the inside, with the advent of Al Ghazali, and because of the destructive Turk invasions, never rational and humanistic folks but greedy and utterly violent. Turks destroyed Islam! But for you to claim that Ibn Rushd was belittled by the West when exactly the opposite is the truth is dishonest, cruel, and sorry to say this, this was utterly stupid on your part! You should strive to teach, not to spew hatred. Lift yourself above your hatred, be reasonable and fair, be a man that has the courage to speak the truth, as Ibn Rushd did! Best wishes!
He's right, he hasn't spoken anything else than facts.
"Lift yourself above hatred” as you demonize the Turks
"transmit Ancient Greek philosophy to Christian Europe and thus helped usher the Renaissance"
I recommend you research German historian prof. Fuat Sezgin. The so called Renaissance was built mostly on theft. At best, the names of original Arab authors and inventors were omitted, at worst these inventions and ideas were attributed to Europeans, a.k.a. plagiarism. Fuat Sezgin was able to trace back thousands of European books and inventions to their Arabic origin, and demonstrated how the entire "Western civilization" was nothing but the result of the stealing of the golden age of Muslims after the fall of al Andalus.
Hi Nicolas. I actually appreciate all commentary and your repeated viewing of the content, but you see if you resort to expressing yourself in such a way you will lose any reader, even if your points might have validity. Be civil even in your disagreement. That way I can hear you and we can have a constructive give and take. Thank you.
@@thekandarichronicles Kandari, how can you project thusly? How can you call me uncivil when it is you that reaches the peaks of intellectual dishonesty? To jumble and make a mess of history for ideological purposes is the epitome of falsehood. It is intellectual death!. To deny the cataclysmic impact of Turco-Mongol invasions on Islamic world and the wholesale destruction of Iranic and Arab monumental libraries by these so called Muslims is criminal, irresponsible! Therefore I deem you a troubled soul, a corrupt mind and ideologue and will quit following you. Best wishes!