Mass Effect 3 Uniting the Geth and Quarians / Death of Legion
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- I've had some requests to upload this. I am not sure on the exact requirements but I accomplished it like this:
-Legion and Tali both loyal and survived ME2
-Reprogrammed the Geth (it's confirmed though you can do it if you destroy them too) in ME2
-High Paragon level
-Tali can't be Exiled in ME2 (Edit: It has been confirmed it is still possible to do it if she was exiled, just takes a lot more paragon/renegade)
-Tali and Legion have to get along in ME2 (in the scene where Tali is about to kill legion, you have to convince her that the war between them is pointless)
-Save Admiral Koris
-Destroy the Geth Fighter base
-Then attack reaper base
(In that order)
Option will come up while Legion is uploading to other geth.
Legion dies because of this.
When you realize Legion is Shepherd to the Geth, in exactly the same ways. Especially in the end
He wore the N7 chest piece for a reason.
Shepard*
This is so sad, especially since Legion started refering himself as a fully sentient independent being.
The worst part of this was the unexpectedness. With Mordin and Thane, we knew their time was coming, and you could brace yourself for the impact, but we had just come off of such a high with the Geth and Quarians. Peace, after 300 years of war, no one else has to die.... and then Legion breaks the news, out of nowhere.
+Zombiewithabowtie Thats what I hate about Legion. He doesn't say info in advance. I made him ashame of himself when he does.
I haven't finished the entirety of ME3 yet, but throughout the entire series thus far, nothing has made me tear up, except learning about the Morning War with Legion in the geth consensus and Legions death scene. I swear Legion was one of the best and most adorable characters I've ever seen. God, I loved Legion so much.
It's way worse when tali dies I picked that option and it actually destroyed me I had to replay like 2 hours up to that point Cust I felt like a piece of shit
"You are welcome to return to Rannoch with us." That made me cry so much for some reason.
Thr part where Legion said "i know tali but thank you. . . Keelah se'lai" mad me cry so much
@@legiondageth3120 In his last moments, he saw Tali as a friend. She wasn't just "creator Tali'Zorah" to him.
Shit, this is fucked up. Seriously, imagine yourself Pinokio, who at the end turned into a real boy, and a few seconds later had to die.
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Someone is always chopping some god damn onions during this scene.
those fucking onions -sobs-
DEM FUCKING NINJAS
It is most inconvenient.
This scene makes me so happy. When you see Admiral Raan and the Geth Prime discussing settlement sites, it proves that the Catalyst's solution was unnecessary in the first place - organics and synthetics solved the problem on their own, even if it did take a war to do it. I kinda hope we develop self-aware AI in our time, and then make friends with them.
thekaboominator1 I’ll be working on it my friend
There is always a choice. Whether it is war or peace, love or hate, it is always a choice. Peace comes from respect and understanding, but those are things that people need to learn and chose on their own
7 years later in 2023, the age of AI is beginning lol.
Well, almost a decade later AI is officially upon us. May we be equal to the burden 😬
It always amazed me how the Geth never put up any settlements, they never wanted the planet, they didn't really want a part in this war, they just wanted their creators to come home.
One big miss-understanding
@@DrumToTheBassWoop take the war out of the equation if they were to one day just come back. As socked as the Geth might have been, I'm sure they would have been happy to see their creators come home.
Remember when the Catalyst said that organics and synthetics will never work together or be at peace? Yeah this geth would like to say otherwise. 6:41
The Intelligence based its beliefs on all past cycles where every A.I rebelled. It had not yet happened that A.I and organics worked together, that is why he allowed Shepard to choose in ME3, Shepard showed it that synthetics and organics can work together and not be in an eternal conflict
..and then the indoctrination theory comes
@@morya8376 which i totally believe in...
Everything just points into that direction...
@@RustyTheFoxxo Bioware debunked it, and so did the new Mass Effect trailer
Legion's death hurts the most in this game. That "do we deserve death?" Question had significant heaviness to it. What a brilliant game
Tali: (looking at Rannoch) "It is beautiful though, isn't it?"
Shepard: (looking at Tali) "Yeah. It is."
: )
Everyone says that him referring to himself in the first-person gets them but for me it’s the “I know, Tali.” that hurts.
It's what got me to crack. Referring to Tali just be her first name and being contempt knowing her answer.
Pairing this with the Destroy ending broke my heart. You did so much for Legion and the Geth finally got back with the Quarians for a mutual relationship sharing the same planet. But with the ending it resulted in them all dying out anyway... So sad.
RIP Legion.
But it taught the quarians and perhaps other races that organic-synthetic coexistence is a possibility. Perhaps they will build another true ai, without the reaper code.
Thats why I have Happy Ending Mod and its my cannon... because EA fucked up the ending as is.
@@AeonStaitethat is the point there is no happy ending
"You cannot comprehend our plans"
Cue the most underwhelming ending from Bioware yet.
"You cannot possibly comprehend our plans because they are so chock full of illogic and circular reasoning that not even we comprehend our plans!"
5:25 I love how Legion finally displays emotion as he comes to grips with his death.
Especially with Legion referring to himself as "I" rather than "we" and he refereed to Tali just by her first name. Not by her full name or "creator."
When he said "I"
;-;
His first act as a true individual was to sacrifice himself for his people.
"I know, Tali. But thank you. Keelah Se'lai"
He saw Tali as a friend, and not just "creator Tali'Zorah"
Man I'm gonna Miss Legion, Thane and Mordin I knew their time was come. Peace to the fallen Comrade
Legion and Mordin's death scenes are the most emotional in gaming. ME3 will be remembered by me as the epic conclusion to the most emotional franchise in gaming, and the only game to make me cry.
And it is because of this that i always went for the synthesis ending. I'll be honest if i didn't have the choice to save both fleets i would have saved the geth. I mean sure the quarians get alot of s*** from the rest of the galaxy, but they fired first and then continued firing. Also they made a nutcase like Xen an admiral so thats a point against them.
Same, I feel taking the destroy ending makes it so Legions death was in vain
Nutcases help the tribe survive.
In order to unite the galaxy, some must sacrifice.. Mordin, Legion.. one of the saddest moments in ME..
so true, i cry with mordin...fk bioware.
Had to be them...
The Reaper's voice sounds so creepy and cool at the same time XD
Whoa hold on a moment since when did legion refer to himself as an individual Geth rather than in consensus form with "We"
I guess since now we cannot called him "it", he also sounded hesitant when he said "Direct personality dissemination required" more like out of fear
I always think sentience was legions goal in meeting Shepard he literally puts Shepard’s armor on. For a geth, Shepard a cyborg, and one of the most human humans in existence had an ideal personality with which to study organic sentience. His choices in decoration and final decision show how much he idolizes Shepard. Legion even presses Shepard on his ideals as if trying to comprehend them. Wouldn’t make much sense for a machine to debate which decision is right. Legion seeked out Shepard to learn the value of sentience and the individual. He often asks how organics act without consensus. In the end legion didn’t even hesitate to sacrifice his self for his people though if you carefully read his words he clearly regrets and fears it.
This was the saddest death for me. I was more upset about this death than any other death in the series (perfect paragon, nobody died who didn't have to).
Gosh it's just so hard ;-;
Yeah I know! Mass effect 3 is the only game in the trilogy that forces you to kill of squad members.
I agree, this death was the saddest for me, Legion will always be remembered as the best geth that ever lived
And the only unit with a soul!
That is true
bobtheturtleman9 not the only, but the first of many more!
*Psalm 23 - A Legion's Prayer:*
The Commander is my Shepard, I shall not want.
He makes me to fight in green pastures.
He leads me beside giant Reapers.
He restores my shields.
He guides me along the linear game path,
for the ease of the developer's sake.
Yea, tho Legion walks through the valley of the migrant of the fleet,
He will fear no Quarians, for the Shepard art with him.
His rifle and ridiculous biotic powers they comfort him.
He prepares some whoop-ass before me in the presence of mine enemies.
He annoints my character with level-ups.
My skill: overloads.
Surely cerberus killing and planet-mining will follow me all the days of my life.
And I will dwell in the ship of the Normandy of the Commander Shepard forever.
"I should go"
... Aeroflaking brilliant. Simply brilliant. Great job.
Amen
Please don't do that.
@@opticalraven1935 what?
Amen 🙏
I am still so pissed about this twist.
"You can't comprehend. . and then I give you an answer that is very easy to understand and, in fact, quite stupid".
It actually makes sense. Just very morally wrong.
But it doesn't. It's WORKABLE, but very disappointing and poor writing in my opinion. It's like being led on about the mystical power of the force only for someone to then tell you it's little bacteria in you.
Well the idea is, they kill us and keep some alive therefore to rebuilt. They don't wipe them all out where as organics would wipe them all like e.g The Geth and Quarians war, and the genophage. they kill us to save us. But I agree when you say it is poor writing. They could of expanded on it etc.
Its the Only way.
Hand salute!
300 years and they finally got to go back home
So many years later we should agree that voice actors did a tremendous job and should be praised.
Shepard-Commander, I must go to them.
Ugh! I didn't get the option to unite them! I did everything full paragon in Mass Effect 1 & 2. This was the hardest decision I had to make! I ended up choosing the geth over the quarians. I felt so terrible afterwards...
Holy shit, 9 years later, what's up my guy?
Yeah, it's the most complicated set of circumstances to get them to come to peace with each other. You've gotta get Tali Exonerated and destroy the heretics in ME2, and then in ME3, save the Admiral on Rannoch and do the other geth fighter squadron side quest.
Oh, you also have to make sure both Tali and Legion survive suicide mission.
@@randomstuff508 From the Wiki: You must first meet all 3 of these points:
1) At least 4 bars of Reputation
2) Tali & Legion must both Survive ME2.
3) Must complete Rannoch: Geth Fighter Squadrons
THEN It's a point system. You need 5 or more points for peace
+2 Points: Destroying the heretic Geth in Legion's loyalty mission. 0 points for merging them. (ME2)
+2 Points: Preventing Tali's exile in the trial without presenting the Evidence (ME2)
+1 Point: Using the Paragon/Renegade check in Tali/Legion's loyalty argument. Even if you regain loyalty later, you don't get the point. (ME2)
+1 Point: Completing Rannoch: Admiral Koris
+1 Point: Keeping Admiral Koris alive during Rannoch: Admiral Koris.
I just finished my very first playthrough of all 3 games a week ago. I actually ended up merging the heretic geth, but I barely passed the peace check by getting all other 5 available points.
@@randomstuff508 its really not that difficult but I see what you mean
@@ealbertson318 yeah tbh i got this on my first play through just by being good guy shep and doing all the quest i got before this one
I really liked the pause he took saying that he had to reach the others and that he was sorry, i see the culmination of a path that humanized him in an excellent way. I admit that tears have fallen during this scene, and during many others. One of the best sagas i've ever play!
5:53 Windows Vista has been successfully installed.
If you can pick them up, I highly recommend playing the first 2 games, they are both amazing and have the same emotional grip on you that this game has. Playing through the first 2 really helped me appreciate my teammates a lot more. The side affect of that is when they die it hurts that much more.
I just noticed that right after Legion's sacrifice Shepard is like "K den", like nothing happened at all. When Mordin exploded he acted the same way. Of two of them Shepard is the real robot. The only character that wasn't developed properly in the whole game.
Shepard is you, and he is me and all players, if you don't get sad, then he will not get sad, it is your emotions that define everything, the lines of dialogue should be only the approximation of your real feelings.
No, not really. In cutscenes you get to choose his lines, yeah, but it's actually either just "I'll miss him, he was a hero" or "fuck him, forget him".
Shep probably holds it in until he's back on the Normandy.
Druu Dru Shepard doesn't care for things he can't burry his dick in
In away that’s who Shepard is
God I wish they would make a movie trilogy out of this. I find the whole Mass Effect story more captivating than the latest Star Wars movie.
+madcapper6 I Know! If they did it the right way and followed the same story it would be incredible. The story is so amazing about all these races and aliens puttng aside differences to fight together.
In theory yes, but what is "canon"? I love the idea too, but too many people would be disenfranchised because Shepard didn't do what "their Shepard" did.
Tip: Destroying the Heretic Geth actually makes peace easier, as rewriting them means the Heretics fall back under Reaper Control because of this incident, meaning the number of Geth existing is substantially higher, meaning that the Quarians get more jittery over the idea of there being so many more Geth and are less likely to agree to peace.
you can still get them to agree to peace though and you'll have more Geth to fight the reapers
But less Quarians. Destroying the Heretics, saving the Admiral, doing the Geth consensus mission and creating peace give some the most War Assests.
The best part of this.... is the ME1 music from the menu playing in the background. I'll never get tired of hearing it. Also brings back good memories. Of when this was more of a roleplay, and less of a shoot-spree.
Because Legion knows why we cry but it is something he can never do
"this is for legion!" *wipes out his entire race*
destroy is the best ending though
If you unite the Geth and quarin forces I think synergy is the only ending that logically allows for all synthetics to survive like edi and the geth cause they just became a people and wiping them out to kill the reapers is universal genocide...
That and his sniping ability made Garrus look like he was a blind schoolchild.
1:11 Harbinger venting to the other reapers in his pajamas "Aughh, Shepard-san is so redundant!" clutches pillow "...maybe I shouldn't assume control."
He paused when he said “I’m sorry”. I’m crying while typing this.
Man tears were shed. This unit had a soul.
The reapers dialogue gives so much credence to the dark energy theory
Thanks for posting this. It will help my playthrough.
I don't know how a writing team that can write as scene as perfect as this one can also, in the same game, come up with the ending.
This gotta be the most EPIC game moment in history!
Its the Only way.
R.I.P. Legion your sacrifice will not be forgotten your service will be honored
Legion dead an noble death. Legion dead for all the Geth and for the Quarians as well. Rest In Peace Legion.
I HAD NO CLUE THIS WAS POSSIBLE AND I AM SUPER EMOTIONAL!!!
you have to save and be paragon in ME2 to get this ending
FINALLY a youtube game video that isn't with Fem Shep, and is with the real Commander Shepard
Vigil always brings me to tears when I hear it.
No. Nobody else dies today!
Mass Effect and Doctor Who used this line at least once, and it still has a powerful effect on me.
The sad part is; in order to let Shepard live, the Geth die anyway. (destroy ending)
its worst choice. Thats why Destroy ending worst
thank you this will help me so much so much thank you
Shepards smile at 5:19 scared the crap out of me...
I now realize the true importance of keeping EVERYONE alive through the mission against the Collectors. I tried to give the geth the Reaper code upgrades with the Legion VI reconstruction...completely disastrous. NEVER. AGAIN.
"if you consider that for one minute, this war will be over"
yeah, because that will give the geth time to retaliate in force. I'm surprised Han Gerrel didn't think that. I'm paragon to the core, and I think the renegade option sounds infinitely more convincing.
IN ME2 you need both Tali and Legion to survive the suicide mission, do their loyalty missions (tali's has to be successful) Legion can be sold to cerberus but you don't want that. Also they have a fight, if shepard can diffuse it, that will help.
You need almost full paragon with legion and tali surviving in an imported ME2 Save
Oh for the days when writers could move you over something so simple as a robot in a video game...
And this right here is why I had to do the Control Ending. Synthesis forces everyone to basically be one hive mind. Destroy, though I can understand a lot of the argument here, prematurely ends the story of the peaceful Geth
I've played it through three times and I've never had a problem xD I always had this option
that smile at 5:15
After all these years Legion's last words still make me cry.
Listen to the tone in Legion's voice drop at 5:25 when he says "Personality dissemination...required." He's getting more organic-esque qualities to his voice.
His end was indeed in glory.
He did so much for his people, and for Shepard.
Legion... the ME community mourns you.
If Legion died in ME2, this will be the hardest scene you will face in the entire saga.
@Gamergod14 Nah, if you didn't get Tali exiled and settle the dispute between her and Legion with the Paragon/Renegade choice then you have to save admiral Koris and do some weird mission for legion to disrupt Geth fighters.
This Reaper seemed more willing to talk than the other two. Too bad we didn't get more options.
LOL love how shep smiles at 5:20, pretty much how I felt when I resolved this conflict =D
man for some reason legion's death hit me the hardest. something about his death just made it so tragic.
Between this and Mordin, it really is a huge tear jerker
It’s so fitting they played Vigil at the end. I still cry when Legion dies...
Yep, got it eventually, hadn't taken out those Geth Fighters when I should have. Thanks
I picked the geth. I have never been so sad and felt so bad watching a cut scene IN A GAME. I wish I could've done this...
The Voice of that admiral... is it voice of Arvassrala from The Expanse?!
I had no idea this was even a choice. My Tali got shot in the face during the second game (even though i had maxed out relationships with all of them), and in the end i was forced to sacrifice the Geth in order to save the Quarians.
Legion was tasked with tracking down/following commander shepard as he was one of the first contacts of humanity that they came into contact with. Also he freed them from the Reapers so the Geth like Shepard. Legion tracked down the crash site of the Normandy and came upon the armor. He wore it because he's a bit of a fanboy for Shepard.
He sacrificed himself so that his own race could be saved and free them to become sapient. I couldn't ask for a better return, but if you hadn't notice that this game revolves around sacrifice.
Holy crap, when you talk to the reaper, that's Sovereign's theme in the background
Farewell, Legion. May you find peace in the Well of Allsparks.
Now assuming you do have a ME2 save file then Tali and Legion's loyalty missions must have been completed as well as both of them surviving the suicide mission. Legion will be at the Geth dreadnought, and Tali will have been promoted to admiral. Go through all the missions and when the final conversation comes up, the blue and red paragon/renegade options appear and you can save both groups. This can also be observed when trying to convince Mordin Solus not to cure the genphage, and he lives.
I was hoping that they would reveal Tali's face here, but apparently that would have been too mainstream for Bioware and EA. I still got to see it, thankfully, since I romanced Tali in that playthrough, yet the last moments of this scene left me quoting Captain Jack Sparrow: "If you were waiting for the opportune moment...that was it."
You are supposed to talk to the admirals to get information about the war and then you will get the option to rally the crowd and get shepard to convince the admirals to get tali to be and admiral and still be loyal and make sure legion survives the suicide mission.
Another amazing scene from Mass Effect. Legion was one of my favorites.
One must take note that this video is the first time to show a Reaper brought down by sheer firepower.
Sovereign was only taken down by the Normandy because Shepard drilled a metaphysical hole in its skull and fucked its brain by destroying its avatar Saren.
The human-Reaper wasn't even fully formed, so it doesn't count IMO.
And lastly, the Reaper on Tuchanka wasn't shot down... it was UTTERLY CRUSHED BY KALROS.
It's kind of sad that I can't see the last third without cloudy eyes. But what could you do?! :/
You need to have fulfilled certain requirements over the two games. I managed to save both and I have to say it is incredibly rewarding. You MUST do the Legion/Quarian side missions, you MUST settle the argument between Tali and Legion without losing either's loyalty in ME2 and of course do both loyalty missions. There's also a theory that you must have imported a character from both ME1 and ME2. I think also you have to destroy the heretics during Legion's loyalty mission. Hope that helps
more like best geth period nothing will ever replace Legion, the entire batarian, volus, and vorcha races, (and other geth) combined would be worth even his head!
@Chromevod What you wanted is what everybody hated with the ending so I think people would be burning Mass Effect 3 if they followed your suggestion.
Tali doesn't bet exiled (and survives, obviously), save admiral koris, destroy geth fighters and do the reaper base mission first (?) gets you tis option
Its a bit ironic that siding with the Quarian's is more cold and calculating (they are synthetics that might eventually rebel/become dangerous, or aren't even really 'alive' at all), and siding with Geth is a more emotional choice (they deserve a chance at life, because of persecution at the hands of their creators)
legions last words were "I know tali, keelah selai" Thats the first time he said "I" instead of "we".
Where's the paragon interrupt to give Legion a good-bye hug?
And then... the ending happened... and ruined it all.
First time he ever referred to him self in first person. "I". Saddest death in Mass effect along with mordin
Tali is exonerated at her trial (eg NOT exiled)
destroyed the heretics
resolving the Tali/Legon conflict with a renegade or paragon solution
Destroy the Geth Squadron on Rannoch (aka fighter base)
Save the Admiral (not his men, the admiral)
you can also choose to rewrite the heretics if you wish, you can still achieve peace.