Adrian Belew & Stewart Copeland - 'Gizmodrome', Frank Zappa, Film Scoring - Jim Norton & Sam Roberts

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  • @evansgate
    @evansgate 5 лет назад +10

    huge Adrian fan and I don't dislike Jim or Sam but they have a musical icon and legend in front of them and they can't be bothered to at least peripherally know his work... Jim claims to be a huge Zappa fan yet did not know when Adrian played for him. Then when Adrian alluded to his King Crimson days (arguably one of the greatest group of musicians ever) Jim couldn't take a hint.

  • @empirestatelvr3694
    @empirestatelvr3694 6 лет назад +18

    "He played guitar.. And mellotron" hint hint hahah

  • @horsttim
    @horsttim 7 лет назад +21

    Wow. These are two of my major childhood heroes. I have the album cover of "Discipline" tattooed on my arm. I have most of their stuff on vinyl from the 80s.

    • @eis904
      @eis904 3 года назад +1

      I found out about King Crimson only recently. I love Adrian Belew!!!!

  • @MerkinMuffly
    @MerkinMuffly 7 лет назад +30

    Bill Bruford once called Fripp an amalgam of Stalin, Gandhi and the Marquis de Sade.

    • @michaelmattice4986
      @michaelmattice4986 7 лет назад

      What band were they in?

    • @MrLtia1234
      @MrLtia1234 7 лет назад +9

      MerkinMuffly KC and the Sunshine Band

    • @Stzit
      @Stzit 7 лет назад +6

      Marquis de Sade? So Fripp fucked everything that moved?

    • @empirestatelvr3694
      @empirestatelvr3694 6 лет назад

      MrLtia1234 KC and the sunshine band hahaha

    • @empirestatelvr3694
      @empirestatelvr3694 6 лет назад +1

      michael mattice king crimson

  • @eis904
    @eis904 3 года назад +5

    Poor Adrian when talking about Fripp.

  • @pikavi9821
    @pikavi9821 7 лет назад +6

    Reads lyrics to Bobby Brown Goes Down. Immediately understands why Jim loves it.

    • @michaelledford4751
      @michaelledford4751 4 года назад

      I wonder if anybody ever asked the Cracked out Bobby Brown and or Witney Houston's thoughts about the song ,maybe Bobby couldn't get untied from the Tower of Power & get the Spindle out of his ass to talk to music journalists lmao

  • @foodog777
    @foodog777 3 года назад +9

    17:23 Just imagine how much better Adrian’s “interview” would have been if he didn’t have 3 DJs and Stewart cracking jokes non-stop during this segment. “What is this Howard Stern?” No, Howard occasionally shuts up and listens. 🙄

    • @NDIrishfan93
      @NDIrishfan93 Год назад +1

      Yeah why would they crack jokes on a COMEDY SHOW

    • @MrGreglarry
      @MrGreglarry 4 месяца назад +1

      They're having fun.

  • @xprophet9
    @xprophet9 Год назад +2

    Mr. Belew seems genuinely hurt. I hope he and Mr. Fripp can reconcile.

  • @tonyforte2720
    @tonyforte2720 7 лет назад +9

    The fact that neither Jim nor sam mentioned discipline is a sin

  • @itkojecockot
    @itkojecockot 2 года назад +1

    "Flakes" is probably one of the greatest songs I've ever heard...... also one of the funniest(crazy how the lyrics still hold up even now :D)

  • @steviedee132
    @steviedee132 4 года назад +11

    Sad these clowns have no clue about Fripp, Belew, Crimson, Discipline etc.

    • @steviedee132
      @steviedee132 3 года назад

      @GOOMBAH no argument here but the mathematical precision of his music requires an asshole to make it work

  • @jamiepastman5594
    @jamiepastman5594 3 года назад +4

    It's just a sad situation. Fripp is the leader of King Crimson, and his compositional genius defines what they are. Nonetheless, Belew is an extraordinary genius too, but more importantly there isn't another musician alive who could do for Fripp what Belew could do for him. Between his vocals and guitar playing, I don't know anyone else who could handle what he handled in KC (and I'm not sure how much he wrote as well). So I wish the two of them could get along -- Adrian deserved far more than an email if Robert wanted a change

  • @jama52
    @jama52 5 лет назад +10

    So nobody in the studio besides Adrian and Copeland knew who the guitar player was for the band Belew played in for 33 years? Does not compel me to watch this un-researched show again.

  • @flowerpunkchip
    @flowerpunkchip 7 лет назад +1

    200 motels - I agree with Stewart. It's a fantastic Zappa album. Thank you for posting. Very interesting interview. Can't wait to see them tour.

  • @charleskaplan6315
    @charleskaplan6315 6 лет назад +4

    Wow, what a perfect show! Amazing story from Stuart Copeland and his connection to Kim Philby and the Cambridge Five. Then the great Adrian Belew!

  • @Guitavatar
    @Guitavatar 7 лет назад +3

    Great interview. Stewart and Adrian come across great! Bravo for the high road taken on previous band members.

  • @MerkinMuffly
    @MerkinMuffly 7 лет назад +5

    Copeland's never been shy about criticizing other great musicians, I think it's mostly for show and attention though.

    • @flowerpunkchip
      @flowerpunkchip 7 лет назад +2

      I must have missed that, I thought he spoke highly of all musicians mentioned... I liked what he said about Sting because like most people there in the studio I thought he would have an ego the size of an elephant, but no. Apparently it's the opposite. I'll shut up now.

    • @braziliantvhd2768
      @braziliantvhd2768 7 лет назад

      Maybe not this interview but he's been known to take jabs at progressive groups in particular, like putting down Neil Peart in the past even though they are friends.

    • @eis904
      @eis904 3 года назад +1

      He kept rubbing his Grammys in Belews face ;(

  • @AqueousMantra
    @AqueousMantra 7 лет назад +2

    My two favorite worlds just collided

  • @blissmaster71
    @blissmaster71 5 лет назад +9

    I think Adrian Belew is awesome, but the new version of KC is incredible, and getting Mel Collins back in the group and playing more pre-Lark's material was a welcome change.

    • @foodog777
      @foodog777 3 года назад +2

      Meh! You think KC’s duet on “Indicipline” with Jacko singing Adrian’s spoken word part is good? They need 4 drummers to replace Bill Bruford! Meh!

    • @blissmaster71
      @blissmaster71 3 года назад +1

      @@foodog777 I was at the Live In Chicago show with the 3 drummers (and the 4th playing keyboards), and it was incredible ensemble playing; but you can't compare that lineup with a group with 1 drummer. If they did have one drummer, of course I would have wanted to be Bruford, but that wasn't an option for Fripp to consider. Fripp did choose to exclude Belew, but I firmly believe he chose the best ensemble for the material they played. Again, a setlist of '70-'74 material is what I preferred, over Thrak and Power to Believe stuff.

    • @kazoshay
      @kazoshay 2 года назад +4

      Agreed, Jacko can sing Wetton's and Lake's parts real well

    • @Romany1111
      @Romany1111 2 года назад

      @@foodog777 Newest KC is to me a cover band.

  • @crestiferj2689
    @crestiferj2689 6 лет назад +4

    stu stickin up for the stingster.

  • @newaccount4143
    @newaccount4143 3 года назад +3

    Thought it was admirable how Stewart stood up for Sting when the interviewers were knocking him down. Love Stewart Copeland :) But saying that Sting did them (Stewart and Andy) a favor by sticking around for two more albums after Zenyatta because he didn’t really need them (what?) and he (SC) was grateful to him for doing that -- that’s a new one. Don’t quite get it. But I’m nobody and who cares if I don’t get it - he was there and lived it. But even though “Sting knew how to make records,” as SC put it, his solo records were not as good as Police records. So he did need them to be as great.

  • @NEntv58
    @NEntv58 6 лет назад +1

    Holy Shit. That Filby story is outrageous.

  • @carpetcrawler79
    @carpetcrawler79 7 лет назад

    I think I never enjoyed an interview this much. Thanks.

  • @michaelgustat9277
    @michaelgustat9277 7 лет назад +2

    at 10:35, Chippah's laugh!!!!
    HOMERUN COPELAND!!

    • @JCSosa-vk8lr
      @JCSosa-vk8lr 7 лет назад

      lmao supper group... jesus fucking christ

  • @empirestatelvr3694
    @empirestatelvr3694 6 лет назад +3

    WHY DOES IT HURT WHEN I PEEEEEE

  • @JCSosa-vk8lr
    @JCSosa-vk8lr 7 лет назад +5

    They look like Howie Mandel and Ted Danson

  • @Danowarthemanowar
    @Danowarthemanowar 7 лет назад +10

    This was great. Kinda funny to hear them talk about Fripp in this light. Sad that things went the way they did but it always was 100% Fripps band. He's the mad scientist.

    • @flowerpunkchip
      @flowerpunkchip 7 лет назад +3

      That's what I thought. King Crimson was around long before KC with Belew in the band....... Belew will get over it. Time heals. Time doesn't wait ( "Time Waits" by Belew is a real nice song btw)

    • @bobkosturko812
      @bobkosturko812 10 месяцев назад

      Fripp is an egomaniac. And his music varies greatly in quality from album to w

  • @AdamHauger
    @AdamHauger 7 лет назад +2

    In the thumbnail Belew looks like one of those Opie photoshops from reddit.

  • @JohnDoe-sx2zk
    @JohnDoe-sx2zk 3 года назад

    Stewart and Belew are the kings of music. Norton and roberts are the hemmeroids of media

    • @frankieboy8414
      @frankieboy8414 3 года назад

      Hemorrhoids. Still a funny comment though.

  • @christophersleight19
    @christophersleight19 3 года назад +1

    With Stewart's sharing his father's professional life.
    I am again reminded of the number, increasing number of Musicians whose parents or parent were members of the intelligence community or military.
    Copeland
    Zappa
    Crosby
    Morrison
    Leto
    Cass to name a few.
    Of the Military base in Laurel Canyon, recently purchased by Leto.
    The recorded history of T. Leary thanking the CIA for LSD-25.
    It is an interesting rabbit hole.

    • @christophersleight19
      @christophersleight19 2 года назад

      @Joe Hamm while that may be true in some cases. There is more to it than that.

  • @Scared390
    @Scared390 7 лет назад

    Lots of stories very good man .

  • @CarlosHenriqueMoller
    @CarlosHenriqueMoller 7 лет назад +1

    Bonfire of vanities, no less...

  • @christfersmart1
    @christfersmart1 5 лет назад +6

    This could have all been avoided if they'd just kept the name "Discipline" and not been tempted to use the King Crimson name. I think Bill Bruford suggested it as a way to get gigs. I'm sure the name opened a couple of doors for them, but ultimately it was always potentially going to end up like this. They really should have stuck with a different name, using KC was handing this band over to Fripp. I mean, it took nearly 40 years, but it was probably always going to end up like this.

  • @veemacks7255
    @veemacks7255 7 лет назад

    It was several minutes in before I realized Adrian isn't the guy from Veep.

  • @monkeydotbizness
    @monkeydotbizness 7 лет назад +2

    I clicked because I thought bald opie was coming on

  • @willisryan4576
    @willisryan4576 7 лет назад

    this was so good!

  • @peteytwofinger
    @peteytwofinger 5 лет назад

    !please bring adrian back - just him or better yet him and the amazing julie if you have to have him bring a pal . jim - try "tinseltown rebellion" and also any ab solo disk

  • @tibbiesbelanger4034
    @tibbiesbelanger4034 4 года назад

    How am I just finding this....?????

  • @chumauyamadu2053
    @chumauyamadu2053 4 года назад

    I loved adriens role in jones crusher haha!

  • @SwampEye1
    @SwampEye1 2 года назад

    You can tell Adrian wanted to talk a little bit more but was cut short by whom ever ...

  • @carpetcrawler79
    @carpetcrawler79 7 лет назад +2

    Hopefully soon?? WTF?

  • @JayJ-b6l
    @JayJ-b6l 3 месяца назад

    Adrian Belew is a legend, wish the guys did some research beforehand.

  • @jaguarhotrod1852
    @jaguarhotrod1852 5 лет назад +2

    Talk about ego these guys have more than they can count on both their fingers

    • @musomuzo
      @musomuzo Год назад

      Yeah but it's pretty understandable why!

  • @DanLoFat
    @DanLoFat Год назад

    Ya, the spouse must be told of the CIA employment, background checked, etc.

  • @jimmcaulay5353
    @jimmcaulay5353 7 лет назад

    I'm not sure but like 10 years ago or so was Stewart Copeland on the Old O and A show and they hated him and he came across a blank.

  • @Gazonka
    @Gazonka 3 года назад

    Petition to get Adrian on top 100 guitar players by Rolling Stones

  • @AndyAction
    @AndyAction 6 лет назад

    Heroes!

  • @WayneThePoet
    @WayneThePoet 11 месяцев назад

    Adrian, as good as you were, Robert Fripp was and will always be King Crimson. You were only part of an iteration. Period.

  • @limboigah
    @limboigah 2 года назад

    A note to the host: TURN DOWN YOUR FUCKING MIC! Put a compressor on it and let us hear the folks being interviewed without having to turn up the volume only to have you interject 8db louder. Jeebus - that’s narcissism at its worst.

  • @eis904
    @eis904 3 года назад +2

    Adrian Belew looks like he hates talking about anything but himself. Look how bored he is ;)

    • @joyholly4258
      @joyholly4258 8 месяцев назад

      I don't think it is boredom necessarily but more that he is a bit of an ADHD-like fidgeter (not good at sitting still). I think he needs a guitar in his hands, and he'd be fine.

  • @Romany1111
    @Romany1111 2 года назад

    Adrian did play for 33 years with William B and Tony L, and they really appeared to be enjoying themselves both on stage and off. Those shows were to me infinitely more interesting than what I've seen with the 3 drummers circus. but everything revolves around the Dude/Silent Bob, for it is his band.

  • @Scared390
    @Scared390 7 лет назад

    Stew we do lunch you know.

  • @derekblankenship8970
    @derekblankenship8970 7 лет назад

    When the hell did jim start running the board?

    • @AP-sd1fl
      @AP-sd1fl 2 года назад

      What the hell was Belew doing in KC? Red is not a dance piece.

  • @DarkeningSkies1
    @DarkeningSkies1 6 лет назад +3

    "Zoppa" & "Bawie"? Oh, Stewart...

    • @NEntv58
      @NEntv58 6 лет назад +1

      His sense of humor is highly questionable

  • @notorioustampaton
    @notorioustampaton 3 года назад +3

    Jim pretending to like Zappa is so cringe.

  • @PanasonicTooth
    @PanasonicTooth 7 лет назад

    28:45 lol why would Normand know that

  • @3797ID
    @3797ID 7 лет назад

    these 2 guys look like a bald Gary Shandling & the ghost of Ted Danson, tss tss #FawkYeah

    • @3797ID
      @3797ID 7 лет назад

      More so in the screen cap, than the actual video; but i stand by my original comment;
      🤘🏽Dvv dvv dvv 🤘🏽

  • @philipatoz
    @philipatoz 2 года назад

    Clearly Belew was referencing Robert Fripp in his sacking from King Crimson. Brilliant though he is, Fripp doesn't strike me as being particularly warm and fuzzy - or sentimental towards someone he'd worked with so long. Pretty sad - and Fripp nowadays may not be particularly proud as to how it was handled.

    • @hfhifi6878
      @hfhifi6878 2 года назад +1

      There are some very legitimate reasons why RF didn't want to work with AB anymore. It was all over at the end of the 5 piece 2008 mini-tour. AB acted like a prima donna which we know RF has no tolerance for.

    • @philipatoz
      @philipatoz 2 года назад

      ​@@hfhifi6878, how do you know this?

    • @hfhifi6878
      @hfhifi6878 2 года назад

      @@philipatoz All I can say is that I've worked with Fripp professionally.

  • @sspbrazil
    @sspbrazil 2 года назад

    These guys clearly don’t know who Fripp is lol.

  • @birdcall8683
    @birdcall8683 7 лет назад

    27:45 normand is the best...

  • @froggy556
    @froggy556 7 лет назад +4

    Tell the rest of the story Mr. Belew! Tell the world how you and "Martha" demanded the rest of the band be paid "Sideman" pay, as a condition of you returning to the band. Getting a little full of yourself since you won the Oscar, aren't you?

    • @goshgolly8305
      @goshgolly8305 4 года назад +1

      Only so much time to talk during this interview anyways. But what's wrong with being paid as a side man? Only so big of a pie to split up and blue was the frontman lead singer of the band 4 decades. He's going to want to get paid some real money. That's just business. And this is show business. Most King Crimson fans are Adrian belew fans. But that's fine Fripp wanted to try a new incarnation.

    • @froggy556
      @froggy556 4 года назад +2

      @@goshgolly8305 At the end of the day, King Crimson are a functioning democracy. Everyone should be paid equal. Is it fair to pay RF more than the others because it's his band? No. And furthermore, I always liked the Cross/Fripp/Wetton/Bruford and/or Muir lineup better.

  • @bobkosturko812
    @bobkosturko812 10 месяцев назад

    Robert Fripp is insufferable. His obsession with Gurdjieff/Ouspensky/Bennett is tiresome.

  • @anthonyleddin8055
    @anthonyleddin8055 11 месяцев назад

    Stewart’s taking a dump!.. turned it off straight away .😑

  • @bojanarezina2352
    @bojanarezina2352 5 лет назад +1

    i don't get it, did belew actually win the oscar or was it the film he scored that won? he seems a bit delusional

  • @megaCK1000
    @megaCK1000 7 лет назад

    PLS NO BULLY FRIPP THANK U

  • @jessica5497
    @jessica5497 4 года назад

    You wasted an amazing guest

  • @Pfsif
    @Pfsif 7 лет назад +1

    I left after the leftist anti-Trump bullshit.

    • @patrickquibodeaux4438
      @patrickquibodeaux4438 7 лет назад +10

      Pfsif Good, that means this was above your pay grade anyway. Adrian Belew is a genius, and Copeland was a fantastic drummer for one of the seminal bands of all time, among many other accomplishments.