Thanks for the video - although it probably would have been useful to start the test section with a recording using the unshielded microphone so that it could be used as a baseline to compare against the various shielded tests in the same environment - for example, you talked about there being a noisy leaf-blower outside your window - we'll just have to take your word for how noisy it actually was since I couldn't really hear it in the shielded recordings - but it would have been interesting to note how much of that external environmental noise might have been picked up in an unshielded scenario for comparison.
These things are made not for blocking external noises, but for taming reflections inside the room on which you're recording. It would have been good to compare the mic with and without the filters to hear if they're coloring the sound.
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It would have been interesting to hear what the Mic would have sound like without any filter to have a clear comparison, but also to see how much surround sound is being filtered out at all.
I didn't even know this kind of gadget and equipment existed. It could be that the surrounding where I grew up didn't use any of this kind. I'm impressed that this really enhances audio very well. Wow, you really sings very nice. 🖒🖒🖒
Im 100% about sound quality. i feel for singing (vocals) i prefer the CODN by far. the other 2 sounded a little boxy or a better word to describe it for me is chocked off. for singing i prefer a more natural open sound. this s why i record in the middle of a smallish room with furniture, rug and curtains to absorb reflections. of these three its the CODN for me especially with all you get for the money
I 100% agree with you. The vocal booth is a hell no. The Melon Audio is too closed and causes a bit of a boxy sound. The CODN is the clear winner for me as well.
I used the melon audio before it add more low end which is effecting the tune of the microphone, i think the best option is the codn reflection filter with some more acoustic treatment in the room but if you cannot add more acoustic treatment then melon will be the best spacially for someone whon travel a lot and record in different places
Thank you for this! From another video I saw, the reflections from behind are the main issue. Seems like the Melon Audio is an interesting one from that perspective. So a test with a "bad room" with a lot of reflections from behind would have been very beneficial, it could also with some modifying be placed on an arm.
Love this video man! I was honestly looking at all three of these options and I can never come up with a decision because im indecisive so this helped me narrow down my options greatly!
I have used the acoustic reflector and melon with a neumann tlm 102 and it all depends on several factors. If you use these elements without an acoustic treatment of a room, it is not much use, it is not miraculous. If you are looking to isolate noise from the outside, it does not work. These only help to eliminate some frequencies in the micro that are annoying, but it is not airtight. Another thing that happens with melon, is that it highlights the bass frequencies a lot, which then in editing it is difficult to eliminate. The best option would be the acoustic reflector, but with a room optimized for audio, otherwise you will feel the echo of the room.
Vocal Recording Quality is best on Codn Isolation Shield Kit. If you absorb to much, you take out a the natural flow of the sound and recolor it wrong. If you dont absorb, you get to much artificial reflection/colors. Btw, you should make a comparison with and without booths on every booth.
@@EdwardSmithMusic there are some really affordable options out there I just happen to find rockville audio browsing the internet one day there mic stands are really durable
I believe that its a complement of the room treatment, please describe your room treatment in a next video. If the room treatment is from good to excellent, all 3 of them should work great, but would prefer the CODN, because it does not paint the mic so much. if the room treatment is from none to poor, I would choose the Melon, knowing that I need to EQ to correct for the isolation effect.
Would there be any issue with no only using the shield, but pairing something like the melon at the same time. It would seem plausible that the mic will still fit in the shield space with the melon on top of it...and having both the shield and the melon would seem to tame reflections that much more?
I’m about to watch the video. Their supposed to help you record outside. I’ve seen rod wave use the middle one in a music video. It shouldn’t help with crazy echo.
you cannot use the box and the reflection filter at a sime time, but you can use the foam isolation pop filter with the other ones at the same time or not?
Which one would you recommend for travel? Let's say I'm going on vacation and I need to record my voice for a commercial from my hotel. Which one do you think is better in those cases?
Still 1000000% for melon !!!! It's amazing and space friendly 😁😁😁😁. Appreciate musician like to preview anything that fit our taste Salute for you bro ❤️❤️❤️ !!!!!!!!!!
I like the reflection filter it sounded better to me but the melon audio sounded good to it really isolated your voice like a vocal booth I'm going to give the melon audio a try when it comes to music and home studios you have to try new things.
The Melon thing can't really work to filter out room reflections, because all the reflection is going to happen before the sound enters the pop filter in the front. For it to work for room reflection, you would have to have your head inside the Melon thing.
That's not true. While it's partially true, if you talk on the side of a microphone you will still hear it. Doesn't matter if it's cardioid or not. While being fully encased is the best idea. Having all but the very front exposed does indeed prevent noise, vibrations ect from the back and side.
@@duckilythelovely3040 Correction: Having all but the very front exposed does indeed BARELY prevent noise, vibrations ect from the back and side. In order to take full advantage of reflection reduction. The singer must be isolated WITH the mic. That way, audio from the vocalist is diffused on the way through the shield and then as it comes back from the room outside. Shields that isolate the mic from the back do very little to reduce reflections specifically because you're trying to reduce reflections on the side where the microphone already has the most rejection. You might even colour the audio by introducing more low frequency reflections (of which cardioid mics are practically omnidirectional). This is why none of these shields do much of anything in poorly treated rooms. Rooms in which the best course of action is; a booth or some proper sound treatment of the room. These things aren't useless. They do solve a problem... but they don't solve the problem many people think they do.
@@Unethical.FandubsGames You can say correction, but it doesn't mean it is. It actually does makes the vocals more vivid, and full. If you are unable to hear that, it would seem you're just not at that level yet to know it. Thanks for your comment!
@@duckilythelovely3040it's not meant to prevent noise. Noise is gonna get thru irregardless. It's meant to prevent the mic picking up your voice bouncing back off a wall into the mic because it sounds horrible. Without any sort of room treatment to start these do nothing to help. Most of my vocal recordings for songs have a bit of white noise but you cant hear it in the mix. Definitely try to minimize noise as much as possible though before hand and if you have minimal room treatment set your mic up in the center of the room and record as close as possible to the mic.
how about a room that picks up noise from the highway? constant horn beeping noise and exhaust sounds, which one would do a great job for noise reduction?
I just don't understand why with a test like this the "look" of the product 6:38 should ever come into play whatsoever. Isn't the entire point of a test like this how it effects the sound quality? Unless of course you don't take sound treatment seriously and it is all for RUclips views or something ?!? LOL
Great video and demonstration, however, I feel like there should have been a direct comparison with no filter at all. But by all means, the video was great👍🏾
Nie video, but it woulve been great if you actually did a technical sound test as it appears a bit subjective . Just simple frequency capture using a DAW.
Doesn't the melon pop filter sound a little boxy? Also, do you have any fixes for an Presonus Audiobox that isn't recording anything! I tried changing the input/output ports in my DAW and Computer and still nothing works. I mean, the settings that worked for a year doesn't work anymore!
Well it literally put your mic in a box so it is gonna sound boxy.It all comes to preference tho.If you like the sound or you know how to fix the boxy sound I think it still a good product overall
For the most part, this review doesn't really help. There was no baseline test w/o any of the shields. Then, the audio heard through a Y T video won't give most people a clear idea of the differences in sound between the items. I know this isn't a scientific level product test, but I do think some audio metering (across any parameters Ed chooses) would have "shown" us what we couldn't precisely ""hear". That said, I guess the set up aspect can be helpful to those who are concerned about mobility. Otherwise, if you plan on having your mic setup in a specific location in your home studio, further info and testing should occur. The absolute end goal is a recording set up that gives you the best option to capture the clean audio you desire. (This is not a knock on Edward S., just my opinion if it helps).
how dare you trick me into getting emotional over one of the most heartbreaking songs to my conscious, in the middle of me just looking for a good mic shield. that was great.... and now I hate you!!
A PodMic is a dynamic microphone, so it shouldn't pickup much background noise. Your mic isn't getting enough power, and therefore your increase in volume is causing the noise. A good solution is to get a Cloud-lifter. This device provides additional power for the mic so it sounds loud and clear, without any un-nessacary background noise being added.
If you go off this guy's recommendation then your being swindled. If you look up in the description area. It shows the Melon audio link and not a link from all 3. This means this guy was probably paid by Melon Audio to make this video, so he is going to be a little off on his review on the account they paid him for the review. This means his review is probably only putting the Melon Audio in 1st place because they paid him to say so! If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but my instincts are 99x of 100 usually right.
What do you base you're ratings on, the appearance? Why don't you test them to determine the noise floor of each. I'm trying to get my noise floor down to -60 dB or less. This video does not answer my question.
Idk if this will be seen but how do you make your at2020 quality that good raw? Everytime I try to record my vocals turn out thin and I try to use blankets over me still turns out thin and weak
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Thanks for the video - although it probably would have been useful to start the test section with a recording using the unshielded microphone so that it could be used as a baseline to compare against the various shielded tests in the same environment - for example, you talked about there being a noisy leaf-blower outside your window - we'll just have to take your word for how noisy it actually was since I couldn't really hear it in the shielded recordings - but it would have been interesting to note how much of that external environmental noise might have been picked up in an unshielded scenario for comparison.
Agreed!
I was thinking the same thing.
I feel the same as me wsy. Thst a what I was waiting for
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I can hear it though on the first one
These things are made not for blocking external noises, but for taming reflections inside the room on which you're recording.
It would have been good to compare the mic with and without the filters to hear if they're coloring the sound.
I mean, correct me if I’m wrong… but foam absorbs, so it will deaden the “room” effect and shouldn’t color the audio unless there’s metal
@@mcgritty8842 That's why the said comparison would be useful.
@@mcgritty8842 it dampens more highs than lows and you end up with an even worse sum. this way it DOES color.
@JakeWillis-bn7ch Perhaps one of those plugins to get rid of reverb could help. Waves has one.
I came to see which one was the best vocal booth. But instead it turned out to be a concert, And i loved it... Your voice is amazing❤
Thank you so much for watching!!
excatly i love his voice
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Your passion for teaching and your dedication to my growth has inspired me in ways I cannot put into words. Thank you for shaping my career.God bless. Slim from Uganda
It would have been interesting to hear what the Mic would have sound like without any filter to have a clear comparison, but also to see how much surround sound is being filtered out at all.
I FEEL VOCAL ISOLATION IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THING RIGHT !!!!!!
also amazing vid!!!!!
Man i use my closet as an isolation shield
Thanks for watching man!! Your closet is a great budget option 💪🏻
@@EdwardSmithMusic sure please i hope i win the DM40s
Which would you say is the best out of three ?
Haha nice yeah closet is the best
Closet not good makes it sound muddy
I'll pick the Codn and melon. But Melon Audio is perfect for outdoor recording and for travel. Good job Edward! 💪
Hi Angelo!! I 100% agree!!! Thanks for always watching dude!
I didn't even know this kind of gadget and equipment existed. It could be that the surrounding where I grew up didn't use any of this kind. I'm impressed that this really enhances audio very well. Wow, you really sings very nice. 🖒🖒🖒
Thanks for watching man!!
If I could i would give this video 2 likes. One for the test and the other for the singing. Great work 👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks so much!! 🙏🏻
whatever i search for microphones i always end up on you
You have damn good videos sir
I really appreciate you saying this! Thank you for watching my videos!! 🙏🏻
@@EdwardSmithMusic thank you for all info
it's really good and extensive
Im 100% about sound quality. i feel for singing (vocals) i prefer the CODN by far. the other 2 sounded a little boxy or a better word to describe it for me is chocked off. for singing i prefer a more natural open sound. this s why i record in the middle of a smallish room with furniture, rug and curtains to absorb reflections. of these three its the CODN for me especially with all you get for the money
I 100% agree with you. The vocal booth is a hell no. The Melon Audio is too closed and causes a bit of a boxy sound. The CODN is the clear winner for me as well.
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For singing the codn gives a really good sound, I think the melon gives a good sound for rapping
I used the melon audio before it add more low end which is effecting the tune of the microphone, i think the best option is the codn reflection filter with some more acoustic treatment in the room but if you cannot add more acoustic treatment then melon will be the best spacially for someone whon travel a lot and record in different places
Thank you for this!
From another video I saw, the reflections from behind are the main issue. Seems like the Melon Audio is an interesting one from that perspective. So a test with a "bad room" with a lot of reflections from behind would have been very beneficial, it could also with some modifying be placed on an arm.
What if you put the foam pop filter insider the trot studio vocal booth?
Can you do a sound test of the three isolation booth in a bathroom or a hall? Then we will know their true potential.
I’ll definitely do something like that in future video!! Great idea 👌🏻
Love this video man! I was honestly looking at all three of these options and I can never come up with a decision because im indecisive so this helped me narrow down my options greatly!
Glad you enjoyed!
I have used the acoustic reflector and melon with a neumann tlm 102 and it all depends on several factors. If you use these elements without an acoustic treatment of a room, it is not much use, it is not miraculous. If you are looking to isolate noise from the outside, it does not work. These only help to eliminate some frequencies in the micro that are annoying, but it is not airtight. Another thing that happens with melon, is that it highlights the bass frequencies a lot, which then in editing it is difficult to eliminate. The best option would be the acoustic reflector, but with a room optimized for audio, otherwise you will feel the echo of the room.
What or where is the acoustic reflector?and do you think a regular pop sheild is better than the melon?
Hello?
@@imanal2543hello!!!!!
Of course the best option is a room optimized for audio lol these are not for those rooms bud
This man can sing...
Vocal Recording Quality is best on Codn Isolation Shield Kit. If you absorb to much, you take out a the natural flow of the sound and recolor it wrong. If you dont absorb, you get to much artificial reflection/colors. Btw, you should make a comparison with and without booths on every booth.
When you try to understand the basics of a home studio setup and find out and entire new world...All thanks to you.👩🏻
Thank you for watching 🙏🏻
I have a pf8 which is basically the same thing as the melon. I love it. Any boxiness can be easily eq'd out
would have been good to get you singing without any of them as well as a comparison!! thank you for this video! great work
I will be doing this video again, and I'll keep that in mind when I do the tests.
The Melon Audio is still open in the front as that's just a pop filter. I really like your singing. Very well produced video as well.
He's so happy in every video
Its hard to know how well all of those work without giving us a sample of what the mic sounds like without any sound proofing
Rockville audio makes some really good acoustic shields and tripod stands they come in a combined pack for less hundred dollars
Awesome!!
@@EdwardSmithMusic there are some really affordable options out there I just happen to find rockville audio browsing the internet one day there mic stands are really durable
You got a Like from me when you started singing :)
Thank you!!
I believe that its a complement of the room treatment, please describe your room treatment in a next video. If the room treatment is from good to excellent, all 3 of them should work great, but would prefer the CODN, because it does not paint the mic so much. if the room treatment is from none to poor, I would choose the Melon, knowing that I need to EQ to correct for the isolation effect.
This is exactly what i need! Thanks for this review
Would there be any issue with no only using the shield, but pairing something like the melon at the same time. It would seem plausible that the mic will still fit in the shield space with the melon on top of it...and having both the shield and the melon would seem to tame reflections that much more?
I'd like to hear a test completely without this "booths".
I’m about to watch the video. Their supposed to help you record outside. I’ve seen rod wave use the middle one in a music video. It shouldn’t help with crazy echo.
In short without those isolation shield your vocals may sound muddy/boomy
I agree with you melon audio rocks in terms of all
Yeah 💪🏻
you cannot use the box and the reflection filter at a sime time, but you can use the foam isolation pop filter with the other ones at the same time or not?
i always make this kind of small kc booth with card board thank for giving knowledgeabel info 🔥🔥
Damn bro, forget the review, think I will just listen to you sing..
Actually, the review was awesome as well.. Cheers
Thank you so much!!
Which one would you recommend for travel? Let's say I'm going on vacation and I need to record my voice for a commercial from my hotel. Which one do you think is better in those cases?
The Melon Audio is best for travel!
actually i heard some crackles in the sound, when you where using the box that I didn't hear with the other two items. Can you confirm this?
Great video and beautiful voice .⚡️🌪⚡️
I need that melon audio foam pop filter i'm damn sure it will make my sound recordings great.
It is really awesome!!
Box work the best for me. Btw you sing amazing Bro! 👌 😎
Thank you so much 😁
Thanks for this review. Bro do you make your own song? Your vocal style is so unique. You can make an average song to sound beautiful.
Good video but you should have told us if the room where you did the tests is «treated» or not?
The room is treated 🙈
@@EdwardSmithMusic Then how are we even able to tell the difference 😂
Still 1000000% for melon !!!! It's amazing and space friendly 😁😁😁😁. Appreciate musician like to preview anything that fit our taste
Salute for you bro ❤️❤️❤️ !!!!!!!!!!
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camouflaging singing talent in youtube review videos ... bravo!
Thank you!! 🙏🏻
I like the reflection filter it sounded better to me but the melon audio sounded good to it really isolated your voice like a vocal booth I'm going to give the melon audio a try when it comes to music and home studios you have to try new things.
I agree 🙌🏻
Thanks for the vid! it would have been helpful to have a with and without comparison
The Melon thing can't really work to filter out room reflections, because all the reflection is going to happen before the sound enters the pop filter in the front. For it to work for room reflection, you would have to have your head inside the Melon thing.
That's not true.
While it's partially true, if you talk on the side of a microphone you will still hear it.
Doesn't matter if it's cardioid or not.
While being fully encased is the best idea. Having all but the very front exposed does indeed prevent noise, vibrations ect from the back and side.
@@duckilythelovely3040 Correction: Having all but the very front exposed does indeed BARELY prevent noise, vibrations ect from the back and side.
In order to take full advantage of reflection reduction. The singer must be isolated WITH the mic. That way, audio from the vocalist is diffused on the way through the shield and then as it comes back from the room outside. Shields that isolate the mic from the back do very little to reduce reflections specifically because you're trying to reduce reflections on the side where the microphone already has the most rejection. You might even colour the audio by introducing more low frequency reflections (of which cardioid mics are practically omnidirectional).
This is why none of these shields do much of anything in poorly treated rooms. Rooms in which the best course of action is; a booth or some proper sound treatment of the room. These things aren't useless. They do solve a problem... but they don't solve the problem many people think they do.
@@Unethical.FandubsGames You can say correction, but it doesn't mean it is.
It actually does makes the vocals more vivid, and full. If you are unable to hear that, it would seem you're just not at that level yet to know it.
Thanks for your comment!
@@duckilythelovely3040it's not meant to prevent noise. Noise is gonna get thru irregardless. It's meant to prevent the mic picking up your voice bouncing back off a wall into the mic because it sounds horrible. Without any sort of room treatment to start these do nothing to help. Most of my vocal recordings for songs have a bit of white noise but you cant hear it in the mix. Definitely try to minimize noise as much as possible though before hand and if you have minimal room treatment set your mic up in the center of the room and record as close as possible to the mic.
@@doknox Noise as a whole pertains to all unwanted noise, period.
I stand by what I said, for it is true.
This was an awesome video!
Ayyyyy. I detect a south African accent ! Nice channel 😃🙌
thanks ! But it is sad u didnt make a control test without any of the three !
I have a neat microphone worker bee! It's kind of a square mic. Would the Melon audio fit it??
I think so... if not, you can just cut the foam at the bottom?
Thanks for your videos ! I'm a recording artist ; I've learnt a lot since I start following you.... #From_Africa...
That's awesome! Thanks for watching my videos!!
🇸🇳🇸🇳... You Welcome
Thanks for the video it was a great help 🙏🏻
how about a room that picks up noise from the highway? constant horn beeping noise and exhaust sounds, which one would do a great job for noise reduction?
Just use a noise gate plug in in your software
We also need a silent sound test between these
What settings on your mic creating your video then also what settings doing the tests?
That’s one cool-looking mic!
I just don't understand why with a test like this the "look" of the product 6:38 should ever come into play whatsoever. Isn't the entire point of a test like this how it effects the sound quality? Unless of course you don't take sound treatment seriously and it is all for RUclips views or something ?!? LOL
thanks for giving us the untreated comparison......
Great video and demonstration, however, I feel like there should have been a direct comparison with no filter at all.
But by all means, the video was great👍🏾
Nie video, but it woulve been great if you actually did a technical sound test as it appears a bit subjective . Just simple frequency capture using a DAW.
Nice singing, Edward.
Thank you!!
With the small space I have available I would surely prefer the Melon.
Doesn't the melon pop filter sound a little boxy?
Also, do you have any fixes for an Presonus Audiobox that isn't recording anything! I tried changing the input/output ports in my DAW and Computer and still nothing works. I mean, the settings that worked for a year doesn't work anymore!
Well it literally put your mic in a box so it is gonna sound boxy.It all comes to preference tho.If you like the sound or you know how to fix the boxy sound I think it still a good product overall
This is extremely helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
I made buying decision based on your tests. Thx
Excellent video for artists 💯💯💯
Thanks man!! 🙏🏻
Nice singing!
Thank you!
For the most part, this review doesn't really help. There was no baseline test w/o any of the shields. Then, the audio heard through a Y T video won't give most people a clear idea of the differences in sound between the items. I know this isn't a scientific level product test, but I do think some audio metering (across any parameters Ed chooses) would have "shown" us what we couldn't precisely ""hear". That said, I guess the set up aspect can be helpful to those who are concerned about mobility. Otherwise, if you plan on having your mic setup in a specific location in your home studio, further info and testing should occur. The absolute end goal is a recording set up that gives you the best option to capture the clean audio you desire. (This is not a knock on Edward S., just my opinion if it helps).
how dare you trick me into getting emotional over one of the most heartbreaking songs to my conscious, in the middle of me just looking for a good mic shield. that was great.... and now I hate you!!
guy killed that song
Thanks so much!! 🙏🏻
I hoped to see how these perform in a totally untreated room with a lot of reverbs.
What microphone
I have a rode podmic. And it picks up a lot of background noises when I turn up the gain. You think this could fit , and help isolate the sound?
A PodMic is a dynamic microphone, so it shouldn't pickup much background noise. Your mic isn't getting enough power, and therefore your increase in volume is causing the noise. A good solution is to get a Cloud-lifter. This device provides additional power for the mic so it sounds loud and clear, without any un-nessacary background noise being added.
If you go off this guy's recommendation then your being swindled. If you look up in the description area. It shows the Melon audio link and not a link from all 3. This means this guy was probably paid by Melon Audio to make this video, so he is going to be a little off on his review on the account they paid him for the review. This means his review is probably only putting the Melon Audio in 1st place because they paid him to say so! If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but my instincts are 99x of 100 usually right.
Nah he has his own opinion
Thanks. This was helpful.
Thanks for watching!! 🙏🏻
What do you base you're ratings on, the appearance? Why don't you test them to determine the noise floor of each. I'm trying to get my noise floor down to -60 dB or less. This video does not answer my question.
Is that a condensor mic?
u sound good bro
Would the Melon Audio filter work with a Shure 58 microphone?
please give the world wide links for these products. I need it .please
Which one are you interested in??
@@EdwardSmithMusic in the second one and the third i want to check prices according to my country
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How do you connect the rest of your signal chain with this setup?
My question is The people outside my room, my roommate or neighbors can listen what a say with those filters?
Idk if this will be seen but how do you make your at2020 quality that good raw? Everytime I try to record my vocals turn out thin and I try to use blankets over me still turns out thin and weak
Thank you!
try a louder song where you really raise your voice because thats the problems i run into
I came for the reviews, but after getting serenaded, I forgot why I came
HAHA!!
wait, why did you not do a null test? no booth...
your singing is nice
Thanks!
Should of did a room audio test with wave forms
Good knowledge sir, nice
Thanks!!
Thanks i order mind today
Can you use the melon ball with a dynamic mic as far as fit goes?
Why didn't you start with a baseline with no filter so we could hear what the room sounds line before and after adding the various devices?
I'll definitely consider doing this next time!!
Great information -
What if you are reading a script. How would these work?
I was wondering about whether I could fit my audio-technica 2100x in that melon isolation pop filter
is that dynamic mic? probably those are not so much imfluenced by far sound sources.
I paid 60 for mine it's the 1 where the flaps at the top fold up & down
hi, i'm interested in buying the FOAM filter but i cannot find it on amazon or through safari. could you please link me it?