The Plane With the Biggest Mouth
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Emerging from the ashes of World War 2, France embarked on a resolute mission to revamp its aerospace industry. In this context, the Griffon was conceived as an aircraft that would push the boundaries of technology and design.
Born during the intense aerospace rivalry of the Cold War era and the urgent need to counter the Soviet threat, the Griffon was meant to reach Mach 2 and beyond.
Its journey from wooden glider prototypes to the achievement of supersonic speeds, powered by a unique dual propulsion system, unveils a tale of ambitions and setbacks. The Griffon would go on to fly at soaring heights, breaking records in its wake.
Indeed, it was the fastest aircraft in the world…
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The Griffon may not have seen military service but it's legacy lived on in numerous Gerry Anderson productions.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Something strait out of Capt. Scarlett
The nose and cockpit makes it look bent in the middle.
As French I probably should shut my face, but "France rising from the ashes of WW2" is a bit excessive when considering London, Coventry, Hiroshima, Stalingrad, Berlin, sure a few secondary cities got hit bad like Brest, Calais, Saint-Nazaire mostly from allies (no hard feeling) on the Atlantic shores but overall we had it easy. With that, yes the 25 years after the war was a great time of bold innovations in France.
I think it's more of a general description of France making a comeback not only from physical damage but occupation as well
they did not went easy bombarding cities and villages in France...
Look it's obviously a to complicated topic to sum up in a comment but overall the French industry got seized by the Germans quickly, used and abandoned as quickly preserving sites tools and know how. Again a lot more complicated: Renault was bombed for active collaboration, the Peugeot family paid the price of active resistance. But overall, and you could say unfairly, French industry fared better than UK's massively bombed and starved by sea blockage, didn't get split and cannibalized like the German's or got collectivized by communism like east Europe.
I completely agree it would have been better stated “France having recently placed their white flag back into the trunk for future use......”
@@MagnumGreenPanther Well there's an ignorant comment from someone who doesn't have to face the music. Keep in mind French hate their own government 12 hours after electing it, you can imagine what most thought of Germans. The French army had prepared beautifully the last war while the Germans had well executed the next one. Once invaded you end up with 3 groups: the losers of the past that seize the opportunity to be someone, those who kept on fighting and a majority that kept on living as best they could. Just like any population under dictatorship. It's easy in insight to judge the guy who decided not to inconvenience a minute part of a massive war machine for a few hours at the risk of his life and his family's and surely getting 20-30 people killed as retaliations. Everybody's a hero behind a keyboard.
It was an interesting idea, but the fact the smaller Dassault Mirage III could achieve the same speeds without the complex turbojet-ramjet system explained why the Mirage III entered service.
The Fairey Delta 2 was the first jet to reach 1000mph, establishing a world record. It was a beautiful machine as was its successor the BAC 221 with its ogive wing providing data used to design Concorde.
Brit tech in general during this era was greatly understated anx underappreciated . Brits are also relatively lacking in "gloating " ability . :)
It doesn't look so much like they designed a plane as they mounted a jet on top of a large engine .
F104 maiden flight march 1954 ,so before fairey delta october '54
Did I miss something here? Fairey carried out most of the test flights of the FD2 in France with the cooperation of Marcel Dassault. He is on record as saying that Fairey could have built the Mirage, acknowledging the influence of Fairey. And it looks very similar.
Thanks for making this segment. It illustrates that successful designs comes from the evolution of concepts like the delta wing and the forward canards. The Griffon program was the foundation of French fighter designs as well as the Eurofighter Typhoon.
One might argue the Griffon is the grandfather of the highly succesful F-16, and later to the F-18 a lesser extent.
I saw the Griffon II in the museum at Le Bourget in 1987; it was, in effect, a ramjet with an Atar turbojet as an igniter, once it got to sufficient speed. It was limited to Mach 2.2 by the rise in temperature of the airframe - just as the Concorde was. Also, it lacked the variable-ramp or translating spike intake that the F104 and the English-Electric lightning pioneered. But it was a necessary step in the path to supersonic flight. I heard that it reached Mach 2.2 in a steep climb, to prevent the airframe from thermal damage.
I'll just say it: That thing is VERY ugly. I don't say it often, but no matter how good a plane is (eg, the eurofighter), sometimes they are just astoundingly ugly...
It kinda looks like the F-16 except no horizontal tail planes. But the F-16 is also sleeker and contoured.
Gotta agree. Front end looks like a Goblin shark. Effective predator but UAF!
You drink enough french wine everything looks fine
The French were pushing the technological limits with this ambitious project.
Duraluminium alloy was used in WWII, and no where close to todays aluminium alloys AL2024, AL7075.
At Mach-2, it's a very different flight envelope. The air friction alone on the airframe leading edges produces significant heat. Engine thrust and power, requiring high temperature super alloys, often advanced molibdynium-chromium steels.
Interesting, a promising prototype with novel ideas. Just a few clerifications if I may:
3:30: SNECMA is not exactly what you say: it stands for Société Nationale d’Étude et de Construction de Moteurs d'Aviation (litteraly: Nation Company for Design and Manufacturing of Aviation Engines). Funny detail: your pronunciation of this long French acronym shows a strong Spanish accent ...
3:58: For information the name of the plane, Griffon, doesn't refer to a guépard (cheetah) but to a lengendary creature existing in some old cultures (Gryphon in English) and depicted with the body of an eagle (head, wings and claws) grafted to a lion and fitted with horse ears. Strange thing. It's probably related to the shape of the airplane looking as 2 different parts grafted one on the other, so to speak.
4:13: wow! I couldn't figure out what you were saying (be sure I don't blame anybody). It's a SE.161 Languedoc (pronounce it "langdok")
4:37: sorry: again hard to understand from a French ear: the "gafo" as you say is the Gerfaut. To pronounce "jerfo"
Good video anyway. I like this channel. Regards
The under-cockpit air intake is not reminiscent of that of the F16 - the Griffon came first therefore it is the F16 that is reminiscent of the Griffon; put better, it was a design later featured on the F16...
That is just a rocket with a pilot??!! Aerodynamics?? That thing is just THRUST!!! 😂
If that engine ever cut out that thing would glide to earth like a 2ton cow!!! 😂
The SR-71 used a similar turbojet/ramjet configuration.
If they had refined this concept they could have developed a Mach 3 Interceptor I think. Had they tried again maybe 10 years later I am sure it would have worked due to more knowledge and experience and of course new tech.
Lorin RamJet still has opportunities.
Was tested in X-15 up to Mach 6.5
Airplane cell had parts charbonized, but propulsion system worked.
The engine with a man on it.
Very informative! Thanks for posting this info packed video.
Love the bevy of near-reckless French prototypes of the postwar/'50s period ❤❤❤❤❤
This aircraft was also featured on found & explained another YT channel creator
It's always good to get more extra education about censored history from the dark franchises here on YT videos
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I change my mind..... It's NOT a rocket with a pilot...??? 🤔
It's just a her engine with a seat!!! 😂😂😂
its like the Typhoon and F-16 's forefather with a gluttony appearance
Post-war France's impressive successes in jet and space science were partially the result of an incredibly lucky french version of "operation paperclip". France occupied the south of Germany where the lac of Constance is situated. They found there in a pension a large number of German engineers who were evacuated by the III Reich from the territories lost to the red army. The French "offered" them a good salary and a relocation for all their their relatives in towns they build for them in France. A refusal was not expected. Some returned in Germany by the 1960s but many such as Hermann Oestrich, head of the jet laboratory at SNECMA took french citizenship, received the Légion d'Honneur and died in Paris in the 70s.
If a plane is big, it's American. If it's ugly is British. If it's weird is French. If it's big, ugly and weird is most certainly Russian.
British Planes ugly ? what are you on, Spitfire, Mosquito, Lightning, Vulcan, etc etc.
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If it looks like a dump truck, it’s Russian.
excellent coverage of an unknown aircraft!
Its looks like a predecessor to the F-16
Shocking looking thing.
I got to say that's a cool looking afterburner when it gets lit.
Dude: it's ALL afterburner.
@@craigwall9536 and it's beautiful too.
@@levischittlord6558 You ain't lyin'.
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NO!!!!!!! STOP. ASKING. 🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
Damn,,that thing is definitely on steroids 😂
It's basically a huge engine, with a fusleloge built on as an afterthought
6:09 If Josef Stalin and Freddie Mercury had a baby….😳
AI would design the same way only it would have two cockpits and 8 wheeled landing gear.
the mint with a hole
A massive engine that happens to have wings and a cockpit. Ridiculous
The front reminds me of a goblin shark!..🤔
Republic XF-103 was designed round a similar arrangement, with an American copy of the British AS Sapphire as the turbojet, though the Olympus was also considered. Never got beyond the mock-up stage.
The French really did take the lessons learned during WW2 to heart.
Yes...don't build a plane that can actually fight.
Frenchmen have set records and done much to advance aviation . And from the earliest days of flight to the present. I see the Concorde sst's roots in this plane.
Another expensive boondoggle that never contributed to the real world.
@@charlesharper2357 I agree. Concord was a white elephant around the neck of the British and France. Its development was vanity project and served no purpose as was realised when it went into commercial service never making a profit. It was too loud, produced too much pollution and was too expensive.
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And it distracted the UK and France from producing a badly needed commercial rival to the US.
Looks like a small trainer plane strapped to an enormous jet engine.
Nice.
The Griffin sowed it's wild oats whenever it could, the randy barsteward 😍👍
It had rumpy pumpy with aircraft all over the world and fathered the F16 and the Griffin 🇸🇪
It looks like something Homer Simpson might have come up with if his brother owned an aerospace company...
Canada ' Kicked Ass ' in this department. What about the Avro Arrow ?
Hmmm, I wonder if General Dynamics took some of the Nord Griffon’s design for their F-16? Sure looks like it.
It's quite strange looking the big air inlet is nothing compared to the fuselage bulge and the wing mounting.
May not have ended well, but that is ONE hot looking bird.................
True visionary design.
Looks like a fighter riding on giant engine. Lol
Sorry France, the Brits would only let you hold that speed record for a little while. Until the roll out of the English Electric Lightning.
it looks like an analog delta f16
Pretty interesting.
Hi Dark Skies, get on please with the flaming video!
Reminiscent of a typhoon/gripen/raffle in a vague silhouette..
@3:30. This dude spit out that name too well. Wonder if he knows French or just learned the name.
I hear this ram jet had just two positions on & off, it uses kerosene doesn't it use blocker doors on it airflow then use just the fuel needed and while the ram jet is in use spool down the turbo jet.
I cannot fit all I mean here like the SR-71 takes ram jet air at row 4 of the the low pressure coppressor but all spinning saving just 15% fuel
I could go on with these idea's
Gotta admire the French attitude in these matters, and they have designed some beautiful aircraft. Having said that, rather than a Griffin, this fascinating beastie does look more akin to a Goblin Shark. Vive La France , mes Amis 🇫🇷
@3:30 is very impressive.
Looks as goofy as the cars they design
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need little bigger airplane with big hole air in take
Damn thing looks like all jet engine and guess all guns on the wings
Talk about an engine with wings.
Looks like a huge, gleaming flying cod-piece! How very French!
Well said...
from this came all their delta winged aircrafts
That was one goofy looking plane. But if I designed it back then, it would’ve looked like Homer Simpson made it. Haha! Ingenuity isn’t quickly built.
He got the pronunciation of the French words that formed the acronym SNECMA (to my non-French ears at least) down pat.
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I wonder if the mythical ? Canadian Avro Arrow wasn’t even more controversial. ?
I love it lol
A bit bumpy but nice and good French!
Can you make a video about first operational Asian fighter jet ?
What was it?
I get it, the French leaders were smart. They chose to save their city and civilians, that why they surrendered, and fought from the inside with the resistance
at about this 1958 time, the cf-105, designed for Mach 2.5, And set up to be equipped with military hardware, was much prettier, and much, much less a "prototype", until USA political pressure crushed Canadian aerospace, again...
There’s this one crazy British aircraft but I can’t remember the name
Edit: I found it and it’s called the Vickers 599. (and even tho it never existed it’s still a crazy concept)
Are they not using this engine set up for hypersonic missiles?
I mean the Americans are.
lol I’m playing war thunder while watching
10 years later you could fly Concorde any day of the week
12:30 15 years later, but yeah, it wasn’t long.
Would it not have been better to use the euro fighter instead of f-16.
Interesting but OMG, all the footage is shown 5-10-15 times over and over, UUgh.
Extremely well said
Toob
75% of the comments here are so childish & stupid! This is a good video showing early jet aircraft development.
I think you need to travel buddy. France is way ahead of the US in the tech states and always has been. I don’t think the US has ever had a supersonic airliner. In fact they are only just starting the prototype some 50 years after France launched theirs!
It’s a very pregnant F-16.
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its not as shocking as you might think. totally makes sense they would want to be able to run away faster than any plane could chase them.
Which is typically French...why turn and fight?
The French are pretty good engineers...
(Said no one. Ever.)
First time ever I’m first
also love these vids, keep them coming
That cockpit has terrible visbility. I flew with a test pilot who went through test pilot school in France.
The problem was drag with that giant air intake
It looks like a constipated F-16
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Proof pigs can and do fly.
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It looks French
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Womp womp
in the future instead of saying a bunch of french words just make some frog noises, we can still make fun of french people right?
Unless you're a tad~Pole.
3:30 Ok ok... Now you're just flexing.
Amazing how the French succeed in spite of themselves
I was thinking India, super disappointed.
Why India?
Why wouldn’t I expect I expect this of France, @Dark Skies (other than racism?) France has a very long history of innovation in aviation & has produced some of the most popular fast jets & other military aircraft of the 20th - 21st centuries, especially in the cold war.
It looks so - French 🤥 😅
What no French jokes?
Stop wine~ing...
Nord 1500 Griffon
If a B58 and a F16 had a baby