The Jaw-Dropping Plane Transformation that Nobody Expected

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  • Опубликовано: 29 янв 2025

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  • @SparkBerry
    @SparkBerry Год назад +210

    Seeing the Cheetah as a little kid at airshows is what sparked my love for aviation. I'm now an aircraft engineer, and I owe that all to this aircraft.

    • @tyronrossouw44
      @tyronrossouw44 Год назад +4

      I used to watch them fly from AFB Ysterplaat's airshows! Always a crowd pleasing roar from that massive afterbuner.

    • @SparkBerry
      @SparkBerry Год назад +3

      @@tyronrossouw44 That's exactly where my passion was born.

    • @Raven3one
      @Raven3one Год назад +3

      Watching Glen Warden flying the Mirage 3CZ at the Virginia Airshows in Durban

    • @sebulba4864
      @sebulba4864 6 месяцев назад +3

      I'm grateful we didn't have cellphones back then, that era inspired children (me included) to study science and engineering.

    • @df3yt
      @df3yt 4 месяца назад +1

      @@SparkBerry You still in SA? My son wants to go into your trade but not sure if there's a opportunity in SA?

  • @MrSnicklesnickle
    @MrSnicklesnickle 7 месяцев назад +189

    A once proud and feared airforce reduced to nothing. Well done ANC

    • @andilengcobo9825
      @andilengcobo9825 4 месяца назад +16

      Its far more complicated than that. The final responsibility is on the ANC but their corruption and incompetence is just part of it.
      1. Old government and western powers (UK&US) intentionally defanged the defence force before hand over to ANC.
      2. Many airframes where retired after the border wars and many more were past or near expiration date e.g. Dakotas, Alouettes, kudus etc...
      3. Old gov just didn't have the money to properly recapitalize the airforce and navy.
      4. Anytime anyone in the even thinks of increasing defense budget, the liberals (DA and "NGOs") are screaming bloody murder

    • @jonathanprince2667
      @jonathanprince2667 4 месяца назад

      Usa sit behind anc

    • @PhansiKhongoloza
      @PhansiKhongoloza 4 месяца назад +7

      ​@@andilengcobo9825what utter rubbish! The anc upgraded almost all the top tier equipment in the 90's.
      Ok the deals were fraught with corruption and backhanded deals, but none less they bought state of the art kit.

    • @PhansiKhongoloza
      @PhansiKhongoloza 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@andilengcobo9825More nonsense. The old government developed kit that was way better than anything available on the market at the time.

    • @fredmeyer3353
      @fredmeyer3353 4 месяца назад +2

      thales.....

  • @JustifyJustin
    @JustifyJustin Год назад +74

    Well researched and good pronunciation. A few little known facts, the Cheetah featured the first look-down-shoot-down helmet in military service. In the early 2000s a US F15 squadron came over for friendly exercises. The final score was tied between the F15 and Cheetah. The US pilots were surprised at how nimble the aircraft is and also how difficult to spot in a dogfight. This aircraft is a testament to South African ingenuity and engineering prowess.

    • @majungasaurusaaaa
      @majungasaurusaaaa Год назад +19

      And now the country struggles to even keep the lights on.

    • @JustifyJustin
      @JustifyJustin Год назад +10

      @majungasaurusaaaa Still has amazing engineers, Doctors etc.

    • @GaionSputro
      @GaionSputro 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@JustifyJustin Thanks to whites.

    • @markparry63
      @markparry63 14 дней назад

      Well researched? He gave it's climb rate as 46,000 ft per second!

  • @tokoloshi214
    @tokoloshi214 Год назад +72

    Africa's best military at the time. Today, a meere shadow of its former might.

    • @TonyPoulter
      @TonyPoulter 2 месяца назад +3

      There is no shadow. Nothing is left of value

  • @zsifk3212
    @zsifk3212 4 месяца назад +16

    Very proud to have been part of that. 2 Sqr often brought their Cheetah's to AFB LBW, where I was stationed. That included the Cheetah C as well. Brilliant professionals.

  • @HadleeSimons
    @HadleeSimons Год назад +34

    Oh man, memories of seeing the Cheetah at Ysterplaat air shows in Cape Town as a child.

    • @afriquelesud
      @afriquelesud 3 месяца назад

      I was there on the day the first one landed at AFB YPT. It first did a few touch & go's, and finally came home against a black southeaster, to roost.

  • @MrSimplyfantabulous
    @MrSimplyfantabulous Год назад +204

    This plane climbs 46,000 feet per second (05:05), which is exactly the kind of attention to detail that makes Dark Skies renowned for sheer carelessness.

    • @iBeast_M0de
      @iBeast_M0de Год назад +8

      What do you want when you’re pumping out videos on all these channels

    • @Harley2010SG
      @Harley2010SG Год назад +25

      It was able to achieve that. However, the pilot was flattened by the G-force and the plane would end up in outer space... 😎

    • @glennllewellyn7369
      @glennllewellyn7369 Год назад +14

      SA mechanics are the best!

    • @RoboticPope
      @RoboticPope Год назад +25

      It would burn up on exit doing mach 42. A reverse meteorite 😅

    • @phillipzx3754
      @phillipzx3754 Год назад +14

      I was just about to post something when I decided I should see who else heard that claim.
      FOIW....its ROC is about 46,000-56,000 ft/minute...depending on the model.

  • @deonkotzee6641
    @deonkotzee6641 Год назад +40

    Today South Africa has only two fighter aircraft that remain 100% serviceable. What a disgrace.

    • @kgb2905
      @kgb2905 4 месяца назад +5

      And the great wait for Gripen armed cabins are still persistent.

    • @krishorst4734
      @krishorst4734 4 месяца назад +4

      its sad

    • @chrisdupreez6281
      @chrisdupreez6281 3 месяца назад

      Nonsens man - waar kry jy jou stats?? Duim suig stats is hoekom niemand meer enige iemand glo wat hulle op die tipe sites sit nie.
      Maar ten minste jy se TWEE - as jy oordryf - doen dit proper. Se sommer al die vliegtuie is in hulle moer in ALMAL - lieg soos n vlieg (sonder feite of references) doen dit proper as jy wil lieg - se al die vliegtuie, helicopters is nie vliegbaar nie, behalwe die duikbote en die nuwe badgers.
      As iemand jou eerste lieg gaan glo sal hulle die 2de een ook glo.

  • @andrewagner2035
    @andrewagner2035 Год назад +21

    Greetings from Cape Town…

  • @chaz__
    @chaz__ Год назад +92

    The South Africans really are quite remarkable people. Heartbreaking to see what's happening to them now.

    • @StudSupreme
      @StudSupreme Год назад +1

      All thanks to the western leftist academic 'intellectuals' falling in line with their communist eastern bloc 'counsellors'......... Leftists are all a bunch of bedwetters.

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn Год назад

      ​@@StudSupremehappening to every western nation 👽 taking over australia too ex commie nations not so

    • @pierrelightfoot2669
      @pierrelightfoot2669 Год назад +22

      Yes, it is not easy to have the world against you, ask Isreal, they are in the same boat. At least they are still fighting for their existance.

    • @DuneSurfer
      @DuneSurfer 4 месяца назад

      The West sacrificed us. Our 'allies'. Now the West is finding out...

  • @reneegudjon3204
    @reneegudjon3204 Год назад +24

    Beautiful jets. Win any beauty contest 😊

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn Год назад +2

      Thats all they would win 21C they are museum artifacts

    • @reneegudjon3204
      @reneegudjon3204 Год назад +5

      @@Eric-kn4yn I am sure they can do basic defense in the area in peace time at least

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn Год назад

      ​​@@reneegudjon3204no way very expensive to maintain basic defence get cheaper a/c counter insurgency or advanced trainners ok from australia

  • @csk4j
    @csk4j Год назад +37

    Amazing innovation.. South Africa seems a shadow of its former self

    • @FrancoisMoolman
      @FrancoisMoolman 4 месяца назад +3

      It is. We were the best of the best. Now we are a joke.

    • @klar7946
      @klar7946 4 месяца назад +1

      It is..

    • @robingordon4700
      @robingordon4700 4 месяца назад

      Because the whites are no longer in control.

  • @fherot8200
    @fherot8200 Год назад +8

    I remember seeing posters promoting the Cheetah from my boy scouts hall before getting to see one at an Airshow. I was so proud to have an indigenous fighter since I’ve always been obsessed with aviation.

  • @erichpizer1
    @erichpizer1 Год назад +22

    i was pleasantly surprised you covered this topic . South African.

  • @andrewmorke
    @andrewmorke Год назад +39

    A small correction. The Cheetah was intended as an interim or stopgap upgrade while the fourth-generation Carver was under development. The Cheetah was essentially the Kfir C7 with an upgraded Atar-9K-50-12 engine instead of the J79. The R-Darter and A-Darter missiles were a massive advancement over the old Kukri, R550, and R530 missiles (comparable to the IRIS-T and AMRAAM). The 85th Squadron was an advanced flying school, not a "flying skull." Sadly, the Cheetah's service with Draken is winding down because the Air Force decided to use more advanced aircraft as adversaries.

  • @ThoughtStork
    @ThoughtStork 4 месяца назад +4

    Great video. I never realised how much development went into the Cheetah. I just wander where all those skills ended up after 1994. The current Air Force struggles to keep their Saab Gripens flying.

  • @louwvandermerwe178
    @louwvandermerwe178 Год назад +66

    Cheetah E was the upgraded Mirage 3E. Cheetah C was refurbished Kfir airframes, Cheetah D was the Mirage DZ and D2Z airframes.

    • @frednoname3714
      @frednoname3714 Год назад +1

      Thx ! I thaught Kfir has U.S engines or is it previous israelian version plz ? Thx

    • @louwvandermerwe178
      @louwvandermerwe178 Год назад +3

      You are right. IAF had the J79 and the Cheetah Atar 9K50.

    • @frednoname3714
      @frednoname3714 Год назад +2

      @@louwvandermerwe178 and you know what 🥳 Degaulle embargo Israël.. so CIA managed to get ATAR engines from ??? And refurbish to Israël... and Israël sold kfir versions to S.A finally mirage iII everywhere originals/copies/hybrides 🥳

    • @RB28v
      @RB28v 3 месяца назад

      There were also 5 Cheetah B’s which were from Nesher T Airframes 858-862

    • @michaelstorm5299
      @michaelstorm5299 20 дней назад

      Most the IAI Kfir design and technology is focussed in the elongated nose of the Cheetah D. Not a fluke that their appearances are so similar.

  • @stefansmeda3737
    @stefansmeda3737 4 месяца назад +5

    They also started to develop a brand new fighter. Check out the Atlas Carver to go down that rabbit hole

  • @thedeparted9113
    @thedeparted9113 Год назад +95

    SUPER COOL!!!!when south africa was still a great country

    • @erniegouws7262
      @erniegouws7262 4 месяца назад +7

      😂😂😂 now we known for apartheid, a jail bird, and corruption 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @geroutathat
      @geroutathat 3 месяца назад

      @@erniegouws7262 There was a time when south Africa was known for something other than Apartheid? I mean its not secret why the other country mainly known for apartheid Israel was the bed fellow.

    • @michaelstorm5299
      @michaelstorm5299 20 дней назад

      That's nothing. SA motor racing scene saw cars like Ford Capri V8 Perana, and Alfa GTV6 3.0 to see the light...and the BMW Batmobile version.

  • @theantheron85
    @theantheron85 Год назад +4

    Great upload! Thanks for the follow up from the Mirage to my favorite! Should have dug a bit deeper for the end and mentioned the Atlas Carver project that never was.

  • @chieftandriver703
    @chieftandriver703 Год назад +22

    Now South Africa hasn’t even got a regular electricity supply

    • @erniegouws7262
      @erniegouws7262 4 месяца назад +5

      Well known for our unique corruption capabilities 😂😂😂

    • @afriquelesud
      @afriquelesud 3 месяца назад +1

      Eskom was officially the world #1 power utility, SAA was the world's #1 commercial airline, and we had various other #1 positions. Political ideology and pro-communism don't result in good governance, ever.

  • @spheleleNgubane-wf4de
    @spheleleNgubane-wf4de 8 месяцев назад +11

    The ANC should be ashamed along with the fools who support them.

  • @floycewhite6991
    @floycewhite6991 Год назад +85

    USA, USSR, China, and everybody else armed proxies to fight over oil and diamonds in that corner of the world. "Helped Namibians" my rear end!

    • @mtrest4
      @mtrest4 Год назад +10

      I don't think the USSR was interested in oil 🛢️ or diamonds 💎.
      They wanted a friendly govt at the tip of Africa where ships would pass through if the Suez Canal was under US control.

    • @todaywefly4370
      @todaywefly4370 Год назад +5

      EVERYBODY’s interested in oil.

    • @angelcartagena2375
      @angelcartagena2375 Год назад +7

      There is always an interest, economical, political, military or geographical.

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn Год назад

      ​​@@todaywefly4370not greenies 😂

    • @jackieeastom8758
      @jackieeastom8758 Год назад +3

      Warmongers everyone!

  • @pieterreynders5607
    @pieterreynders5607 Год назад +35

    ....and now we can hardly put 1 Gripen into the air. So sad....😢

    • @BB-nw6cs
      @BB-nw6cs 4 месяца назад +6

      So much for "freedom"

  • @michaelmartinez1345
    @michaelmartinez1345 Год назад +7

    An interesting episode, that shows the determination of countries that will carefully use their existing resources to create a status of maintaining their sovereignty and separate themselves from undesirable regimes of their surrounding nations.
    The remarkable upgrades to these aircraft, helped them, to maintain this separate sovern status...
    An Excellent video and explanation of the upgrades and results made to create these Cheetah aircraft....

  • @mrhassell
    @mrhassell Год назад +32

    The Atlas Cheetah, developed amid the Border War of the 1980's, is based on the Israeli Kfir fighter, derived from the Mirage 5 / IAI Nesher.

    • @geroutathat
      @geroutathat 3 месяца назад

      Yeah, two apartheid states helping each other out, you love to see it, warms the heart.

  • @armablign
    @armablign Год назад +31

    The inventors of Helmet Mounted Display Sights, ability to shoot missiles off-bore.
    Was revolutionary technology.
    With South Africa still leading edge in the technology, and still involved in the development and manufacturing in US and EU systems.

    • @zofe
      @zofe Год назад +4

      aka Elbit Systems

    • @korybeckwith834
      @korybeckwith834 Год назад +4

      I might be wrong but the HMS developed in South Africa came out before Israel developed one. Its not to say they were developed in parallel.

    • @zanderlabuschagne2368
      @zanderlabuschagne2368 Год назад +2

      @@korybeckwith834 It was very simple, and wasn't really used, the missiles could not turn well enough to make it useful. Maybe the R-73 would've changed that.

    • @korybeckwith834
      @korybeckwith834 Год назад +2

      @@zanderlabuschagne2368 Ive read at a air show (Paris maybe) russian agent stole a HDMS from a South African display desk. Not sure if this is true though.

    • @zofe
      @zofe Год назад

      @@korybeckwith834 Before 1978?
      What year, then?

  • @afriquelesud
    @afriquelesud 3 месяца назад +15

    South Africa wasn't fighting its neighbours, but rather defended the region against communist infiltration by Russia, East Germany and Cuba. Say it as it is. It just so happened that we, while marching northward, were contacted by SWAPO of Namibia, on their way south from Angola. We never intended to fight them, it just happened spontaneously. And the world supported the ungodly communist invasion and fought us instead. Thank you, UN, USA, for being such good friends. Who needs enemies, with friends like that?

    • @terrynaude284
      @terrynaude284 16 дней назад +1

      Ja, well said, a few more so-called western countries can be added to that list.

    • @cboffard8350
      @cboffard8350 15 дней назад

      30 years and you still haven't shaken the propaganda out of your head. Or read a book or even had a serious conversation with a different viewpoint, apparently.

    • @killshroud
      @killshroud 14 дней назад

      Exactly! "Fighting for Namibian independence"... Please!

    • @cboffard8350
      @cboffard8350 14 дней назад

      @killshroud I'm afraid it's true. Not difficult to read up on that.

  • @robinwells8879
    @robinwells8879 Год назад +7

    Necessity is the mother of invention!

  • @coxsen999
    @coxsen999 3 месяца назад +3

    The Cheetah C was actually the last ones produced, (new airframes , 38 ordered ) . The Cheetah E was a rebuild of Mirage 3 EZ aircraft while the Cheetah D was a rebuild of Mirage 3 DZ as well as D2Z aircraft (there were 4 DZ and 11 DZ2Z aircraft originally delivered

  • @FrankMoodyPhoto
    @FrankMoodyPhoto Год назад +4

    Awesome video. My only criticism was the start of the Border War as we called it, was when UNITA asked for South African assistance during the Angolan Civil War. That war expanded to include the liberation of Namibia.

  • @chippysteve4524
    @chippysteve4524 Год назад +1

    Really glad you put that big red ring around the plane in the thumbnail! ;-)

  • @proveritate9312
    @proveritate9312 Год назад +18

    The Cheetah had a Kfir engine. The testing was done at Langebaanweg Air Base in the early 80's . Proudly South African ingenuity ! Now, the SANDF is on crunches !

    • @yoamal1187
      @yoamal1187 Год назад +8

      The kfir had a j79 engine, the Americans wouldn't sell it to the south africans

    • @proveritate9312
      @proveritate9312 Год назад +1

      ​​​@@yoamal1187 The whole mod was done with help from Israel. There were Israelis at LBW. The story about the engine then was a secret or something. I was stationed at LBW and was told it's a Kfir engine. I didn't work on that project.
      Ps. At that stage SA would receive spares from another buyer, and not direct. It's possible that the Israelis supply the Kfir engine, and the USA turned a blind eye. Remember, it was still the times of the cold war.
      The SANDF had Super Frelons, Puma and Alouette helicopters. And we got spares through other channels !

    • @martinstrumpfer1620
      @martinstrumpfer1620 Год назад +6

      The Cheetah C was fitted with an upgraded French Atar engine. Later the Ds were also fitted with it. The E never had it. None of them had the J79 fitted as the Kfir. There was testing with a Russian engine in the early 90s at Overberg.

    • @marcg1686
      @marcg1686 Год назад +5

      The Cheetah was powered by Atar 9C or 9K50 engines. The Kfir was powered by the J-79 series engine.

    • @andrewmorke
      @andrewmorke Год назад +1

      @@yoamal1187 It wasn't the best engine in any case. The J79 was notoriously smoky and a gas guzzler. The RAF chose the RR Spey over the J79 for its Phantoms.

  • @GunniesLetsFlyVFR
    @GunniesLetsFlyVFR Год назад +25

    The Mirage III was never slow. It's original ATAR pushed it to Mach 2. Dogfighting, well, I've personally seen both F16 & F15s in gun footage when I worked on them as an Armament Fitter. Flew supersonic in the D model. They were the premier fighter of the time. :) Great vid :)

  • @johanterblans8266
    @johanterblans8266 Год назад +43

    Today, only 2 Gripens are still active today. Sad decline.

    • @johanschoeman869
      @johanschoeman869 4 месяца назад

      The Grippen's only fly at shows and only if their is money for fuel. Oh yes and if there is a qualified pilot available. This really chips me off. Why did we buy the bloody planes if we never intended to maintain and use them.

    • @rynopot
      @rynopot 4 месяца назад +4

      Make it 6, and there is a very clever reason behind it.
      The maintenance contract was for 13 aircraft for 3 or 4 years, maybe even 5, I'm not sure.
      But the people involve know how long it took to get there. So why maintain 13, for say 4 years, if you can maintain 6 or 7, for a few years beyond that 4.
      The SAAF is still awesome, just in other areas. So knowing that they can't leave the SAAF at the hands of politicians, they have to look after themselves.
      Let that sink in a bit.

    • @user-ez9en7vk2z
      @user-ez9en7vk2z 4 месяца назад

      ​@@rynopotwhat a lame narcissist comment... your "not sure" but have the audacity to "let that sink in a bit" chirp.

    • @ThoughtStork
      @ThoughtStork 4 месяца назад +3

      @@rynopot I hear you but , frankly only an idiot/s purchases a very expensive and strategically important piece of military hardware with a maintenance contract instead of a knowledge transfer program. We did not require the French to maintain our Mirages. I assume the initial technicians were trained by the French but there after we were left to our own devices, I assume! If anybody has more information on this, please share.

    • @rynopot
      @rynopot 4 месяца назад

      @@user-ez9en7vk2z Did you wake up with your head in you arse?
      Obviously I'll waste my time to TRY and explain that to you...

  • @MSimmonsAZ
    @MSimmonsAZ Год назад +7

    Namibia is a beautiful country

  • @falconiusazurius5572
    @falconiusazurius5572 Год назад +1

    I loved watching this video. The 80's style music was both awesome and appropriate.

  • @PhansiKhongoloza
    @PhansiKhongoloza 4 месяца назад +7

    You opening statement is wrong.
    South Africa was never at war against its neighbours who wanted independence for Namibia.
    South Africa was fighting Russian expansionism. There was never any issue about Namibian independence. It was mostly about not handing Namibia over to the USSR and its proxies.
    Funny thing then that once the USSR collapsed, SA granted Namibia their independence.

    • @michaelstorm5299
      @michaelstorm5299 20 дней назад +1

      ...so why did the old SADF fight and SWAPO fought against each other? (...then they should've fought together against USSR, which was not the case)

    • @PhansiKhongoloza
      @PhansiKhongoloza 20 дней назад +1

      ​@@michaelstorm5299Because the USSR supported SWAPO. The objective being Namibian diamonds. And of course the 1st prize was South Africa's mineral wealth.

    • @cboffard8350
      @cboffard8350 14 дней назад

      @@PhansiKhongoloza Never any issue about Namibian independence?! Your southern African history book must have had 2 whole chapters ripped out of it.

  • @hyltonswemmer4824
    @hyltonswemmer4824 4 месяца назад +7

    that climb rate is actually 46000 ft per minute NOT per second.......

  • @Gozar111
    @Gozar111 4 месяца назад +2

    South Africa was in a war on its borders against Russia, Cuba and China. Today we have Gripens of which 2 are operational and no weapons were ever purchased for these aircraft. Such a proud moment.

    • @michaelstorm5299
      @michaelstorm5299 20 дней назад

      ...yes, one never see any missiles on our Gripens. The four SA Navy frigates can take 8 Exocet missiles each...but there are nowhere near enough Exocets to fully arm all of these frigates at the same time. Same with SAAF...I recon there just enough 27mm Mauser autocannon rounds available for a few strafing passes.

  • @sjgerber
    @sjgerber 3 месяца назад +2

    Ironically more Cheetah's are still airworthy overseas, than the Grippers in South Africa that replaced them...plus they are being maintained from South Africa....it boggles the mind

  • @GeorgeDeVoogd
    @GeorgeDeVoogd Год назад +27

    And now we cannot even keep the lights on.

    • @deancameronkaiser
      @deancameronkaiser Год назад +7

      In today's time yes but back then things were different.

    • @mtrest4
      @mtrest4 Год назад +1

      💡

    • @snaphaan5049
      @snaphaan5049 2 месяца назад

      @@deancameronkaiser Yeah, better

  • @ShawnKitchen
    @ShawnKitchen Год назад +46

    A climb rate of 46,000 feet per SECOND?? That's over 31,000 miles per hour, or Mach 40+!
    That's damned good performance!

    • @drizler
      @drizler Год назад +2

      It looks like Joe Isuzu has struck again🤭

    • @davekisor1486
      @davekisor1486 Год назад +3

      Pretty good for an aircraft that became obsolete at the beginning of the 20th century. Or at least that's what the man said.

    • @flexairz
      @flexairz Год назад +2

      Obviously an error

    • @wezob4569
      @wezob4569 Год назад +3

      This is exactly what i came to the comments for 😂😂😂. I was like what???!!!

    • @mornevanderwatt7965
      @mornevanderwatt7965 Год назад +3

      Yeah, we had UFO's before the USA 😆

  • @deancameronkaiser
    @deancameronkaiser Год назад +56

    As a South African I'm proud that you covered this. If you can get info please do a cover story on the Milkor 380 UAV that my company produces or our 40mm Multiple Grenade Launcher or Super Six. I work for Milkor and it would definitely be interesting to see if you can get more information on our First UAV produced on the African continent by Milkor.

    • @Mattio_1
      @Mattio_1 Год назад +1

      We have drones ?

    • @deancameronkaiser
      @deancameronkaiser Год назад +5

      @@Mattio_1 yes we do. Milkor South Africa based in Cape Town Western Cape has built the first operational 18m long wingspan Drone or UAV. It's the biggest Military Drone produced on the African continent. It's called the Milkor 380 UAV.

    • @deancameronkaiser
      @deancameronkaiser Год назад +5

      @@Mattio_1 I work at Milkor Head Office in Centurion Gauteng so I know a lot. I'm based in the weapons Department where we produce Grenade Launchers that are sold to over 60 Countries worldwide.

    • @deancameronkaiser
      @deancameronkaiser Год назад +4

      @@Mattio_1 Milkor is a Civil Defence Company started in South Africa in the early 1980's. We have been going for over 40 years, we were the first Company in the world to produce a Multiple Grenade Launcher 40mm. Our MK1 variant of our Flagship gun called the Milkor Super Six is used by the US Marine Cor to this day. Obviously with that being said we have made substantial changes to the gun over the years to where it's better than our competition.

    • @RubenMyburgh-gw2ww
      @RubenMyburgh-gw2ww Год назад +3

      We darn made the rest of the world be scared

  • @Bob_Burton
    @Bob_Burton Год назад +36

    5:07 WHOOPS !
    A rate of climb of over 46,000 feet per second is 31,000 miles per hour

    • @pigmoonk2545
      @pigmoonk2545 Год назад +1

      space plane

    • @Airtzel
      @Airtzel Год назад +2

      Yeah, Elon Musk needs to take notes here

    • @vut_zarco
      @vut_zarco 4 месяца назад

      Could be 46 000' per minute. Sounds reasonable.

  • @wb7sff
    @wb7sff Год назад +6

    46,000 feet per second ?? Pretty Fast !!

  • @cameraman655
    @cameraman655 Год назад +7

    Good on the SADF!

  • @bj-th7ul
    @bj-th7ul Год назад +2

    Great series for seeing what's flown around out there even though it can be difficult to understand the implications of success... also have trouble distinguishing some different models - for some that I do kinda know I can see that the mixture of planes shown and highlighted can be confusing. thanks for sharing the entertainment (everyone)

  • @Boss-Possum
    @Boss-Possum 8 месяцев назад +3

    That's amazing considering today most of SA are struggling to keep the lights on.

  • @pork_friedrice
    @pork_friedrice 3 месяца назад +1

    5:08 that’s MACH 41 for rate of climb….quite the upgrade

  • @st3f1na
    @st3f1na Год назад +1

    Not mentioned variation with Klimov RD-33 engine (x1.5 thrust).

  • @jonowigz8242
    @jonowigz8242 Год назад +7

    Had the privilege of seeing the Cheetah C demonstrated in Port Elizabeth probably around 1990. It was impressive in turning ability compared with the 2nd generation Mirage F1's . One aspect made it difficult to see as it moved away from the airfield - that later dark grey camouflage scheme made it almost impossible to identify against an overcast sky. It was also very loud on full afterburner! The real magic was actually the electronic warfare suite much of it developed locally and probably still fully or partially classified. Hats off to "the boys in Pretoria" They were also planning a full ground up 4th genner - a locally developed multi role fighter to be named The Atlas "Carver " (see Wikipedia page)

    • @nerdyali4154
      @nerdyali4154 Год назад +1

      Classified in South Africa now means easily available to anybody with a bit of cash.

  • @Intothelight1981
    @Intothelight1981 Год назад +52

    I don't know where you got your info from, but we never began to lose the fight anywhere! We took names and kicked ass right up to the end of the war. Also, we developed leading edge, world class arms, armoured vehicles and helicopters. You may want to do a video on the Rooivalk.

    • @marcg1686
      @marcg1686 Год назад +6

      Running out of money didn't help.

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn Год назад +5

      Hows electricity supply its no longer guaranteed 24/7 i campagained against ANC TuTu when they came to australia 40years past lost the fight its sad

    • @marcg1686
      @marcg1686 Год назад +15

      @@Eric-kn4yn It is indeed sad. South Africa is to all intents and purposes a failed state.

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn Год назад

      ​@@marcg1686australia getting record big unwanted 👽 migration housing crisis whites dont want it govt not of the people now its scary good luck to you

    • @Ollies2CentsWardill
      @Ollies2CentsWardill 4 месяца назад

      I recall the end of that war. The South Africans were demobilising and handing in their weapons as per the peace deal when SWAPO sc*mbags tried to take advantage and launch an attack. I believe SWAPO were made to regret that.

  • @sneb1224
    @sneb1224 4 месяца назад +1

    As a former SADF soldier, thank you for this video. Please fix the '46 000 ft ps' climb rate of the Cheeta.. ⚔️

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme Год назад

    I enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

  • @martinstrumpfer1620
    @martinstrumpfer1620 Год назад +4

    Cheetah D was introduced first entering service in 1986. The Cheetah E was developed more or less in parallel and entered service in 1988. In parallel to those ran the R project which flew in 1987. The Cheetah C was developed last and first flew in 1991.

  • @raymondavalon
    @raymondavalon 3 месяца назад +2

    I recall Argentina was interested in acquiring the Cheetah aircraft, but the UK government chimped out and had a hissy fit over the proposed acquiral, as they feared the Argentinians may have air superiority if any future conflicts emerged over the disputed Malvinas (Falklands) that are occupied by the British
    And that is how good the Cheetah was, scaring the British and seen as a threat to the British occupation of the Malvinas

  • @maestromecanico597
    @maestromecanico597 Год назад +5

    It is amazing how much excess capacity was built into 2nd gen fighter aircraft. Boeing once did a study at the behest of the DoD looking into the potential upgrade of the F4. What they came up with was close in performance to the new “teen” series of planes then coming into service and superior to anything coming from the east. Needless to say Grumman, McDonnel-Douglas, etc. we’re none too keen on seeing an F4 upgrade.

  • @vrendus522
    @vrendus522 Год назад

    Wow' informative & outstandingly interesting. Thanks, Dan

  • @lordsqueak
    @lordsqueak Год назад +2

    A video about Draken International would be interesting

  • @iwannistsalkitzides2115
    @iwannistsalkitzides2115 10 месяцев назад

    Hey...Dark guy...I like your work...keep going....

  • @erichpizer1
    @erichpizer1 15 дней назад

    i am glad to have seen them flown and stand so close to them on take off

  • @desertgerbil7589
    @desertgerbil7589 Год назад +7

    Mirage 3 never really lacked speed, as it was designed to intercept soviet bombers and reach Mach 2

  • @ayre123none6
    @ayre123none6 8 месяцев назад +3

    The Cheetah indeed is a Nesher/Mirag 5, retained the original Atar 9 engine and was upgraded by improved aerodynamics and increased fuel capacity, , the Cuban pilots with their Migs were no match to the SAAF

  • @MrMarcosema
    @MrMarcosema Год назад +7

    Ecuador ended up with the last Cheetah C, since the ecuadorian air force was replacing it's old Kfir jets, it seemed normal but unfortunately the current South African government that has issues with IAI and the total collapse of Denel has forced the fleet to be grounded, this is the problem with small suppliers that can't warrantee they can keep their products flying

  • @madmaximus2836
    @madmaximus2836 Год назад +4

    You can see decommisioned Cheetahs at Swartkop Airforce base in Centurion, Gauteng..

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn Год назад

      gate guards weather will destroy them any in a/c museums

  • @CBD-LIFE
    @CBD-LIFE 4 месяца назад +2

    My father was one of the engineers on these aircraft during development

  • @btbd2785
    @btbd2785 Год назад +2

    I love what SA has accomplished in military technology. They have produced some fantastic military equipment. From fighters to helicopters IFVS etc!!!!

    • @kgb2905
      @kgb2905 4 месяца назад

      Do not forget THE CHUBBY LANDMINE DETECTOR

    • @PhansiKhongoloza
      @PhansiKhongoloza 4 месяца назад

      ​@@kgb2905or the MRAP as the yanks now call it. 40 years after we developed it.

  • @justink1075
    @justink1075 Год назад +3

    46 000 feet per second. Holy shit Batman he just flew straight past the space shuttle like it was standing still😂😂😂

  • @glennllewellyn7369
    @glennllewellyn7369 Год назад +5

    Rate of Climb of 46,000 feet per second?
    That’s 9 seconds to reach space!

  • @Nlangkirby135
    @Nlangkirby135 Год назад +4

    Speaking of mirages, I would like to see a documentary of the IAI Kfir.

  • @jeremyjansen1932
    @jeremyjansen1932 Год назад +17

    So trots op die jet!!!!

    • @piet8803
      @piet8803 Год назад +3

      Dis lekker om te sien hoeveel van ons Suid Afrikaners al die video gesien het in so kort tyd. Ons land het sy probleme, maar ons bly trots en die mense is wonderlik. Politiek in SA is en was ons probleem.

  • @pieterlabuschagne7507
    @pieterlabuschagne7507 3 месяца назад +3

    South African had a very good army. The ANC messed it up

  • @CabbageBloke
    @CabbageBloke Год назад

    Thanks for that massive red circle in the thumbnail.
    I would never of seen the plane in the photo.

  • @moydodir79
    @moydodir79 Год назад +27

    Rate of climb of 46000 feet per second?!?!?!?!? That's pretty darn fast - like, very fast - mach 45, or twice the orbital speed :) Maybe per minute? Please fix :)

  • @neilleonardo961
    @neilleonardo961 Год назад +7

    Cheetah /IAI Kfir Development is a slap in the face to the Americans

    • @mtrest4
      @mtrest4 Год назад

      America approved of it.
      In the 80s, America backed South Africa apartheid govt behind the scenes as it feared a Soviet backed overthrow of the apartheid govt.
      US Congress however passed laws restricting US help to South Africa due to public protests against the apartheid regime.
      So US turned to Israel (and France?) to supply equipment through the back door.
      Correct me if I'm wrong...

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn Год назад +5

      Its all history now sth africa failed state sad

    • @pierrelightfoot2669
      @pierrelightfoot2669 Год назад

      The US always wants a finger in every pie. It is because of the US and the UN that everything here in South Africa went south.

    • @PhansiKhongoloza
      @PhansiKhongoloza 4 месяца назад

      ​@@mtrest4I have no doubt Ronny and Maggie made a plan via the back door?

  • @stevenvendetta
    @stevenvendetta Год назад +2

    If I'm not mistaken one of the Cheetahs were used to test systems for the Atlas Carver

  • @robattwell8283
    @robattwell8283 28 дней назад

    As one who served in the SADF in the Bush War in Angola the mid 80s, the SAAF was always admiired and as combatants always a relief when they were in the air

  • @tommygun333
    @tommygun333 Год назад +6

    Still operational after 60 years after introduction and still being up-to-date. Impressive

  • @thedevilinthecircuit1414
    @thedevilinthecircuit1414 Год назад +3

    Rate of climb 46,000 feet per second = *ludicrous speed* !!!

  • @gekolizzard
    @gekolizzard Год назад +6

    Contrast the SADF then with the SANDF of today..no contest. Nowadays the muppet’s run out of ammo.

  • @sparky4878
    @sparky4878 Год назад +5

    A rate of climb of 46,000’ per second? I think that should be per minute.

  • @waynewhelan3069
    @waynewhelan3069 19 дней назад +1

    At 5 bminutes. Climb rate of 46,000 feet per second. Thats an😁 impressive 31,000 mph

  • @davidwhite7767
    @davidwhite7767 4 месяца назад +1

    Did the Cheetah ever get an air to air refuel. Don't ever recall seeing tankers, either at Grootfontein or Wonderboom

  • @talkietoaster2585
    @talkietoaster2585 Год назад +3

    My understanding is that Draken rejected the Cheetahs because they were stored outside and in incredibly bad condition. I live nearby and have witnessed the Mirage F.1s being tested. Those are beautiful and loud!

  • @cavemanbum
    @cavemanbum Год назад +10

    5:06 - 46,000 feet per SECOND? Wow, that's pretty impressive.

    • @andrewmorke
      @andrewmorke Год назад +1

      That would be a massive surprise to any of its engineers or pilots.

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 Год назад +1

    This is a wonderful video about Cheater ( upgraded Mirage 3) versions... by Israel 🇮🇱 and South Africa 🇿🇦 technologies capabilities. Approaches to Cheater R...as most progressive reconnaissance and fighters aircraft....thank you ( Dark skies) channel for sharing ... sometimes, international sanctions create opposition reflection resumes

  • @sinclairmarcus
    @sinclairmarcus Год назад

    Great content really interesting

  • @l0nelypixel
    @l0nelypixel 14 дней назад

    Such a great video.

  • @0448mickey
    @0448mickey Год назад +13

    As a South African, it makes me proud to see what we achieved, and furious that we were betrayed by the west, as well as the adders in our bosom.

    • @kehindebamgbopa3037
      @kehindebamgbopa3037 Год назад

      Yeah. That apartheid thingy was real cool!

    • @tonynz9954
      @tonynz9954 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@kehindebamgbopa3037 apartheid worked !!

    • @kehindebamgbopa3037
      @kehindebamgbopa3037 5 месяцев назад

      @@tonynz9954 Go do an encore, then.

    • @user-ez9en7vk2z
      @user-ez9en7vk2z 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@kehindebamgbopa3037now that SA has been africanised its a borderline failed state. Aparteid was a gatekeeper to keep babarins @bay.

    • @Ollies2CentsWardill
      @Ollies2CentsWardill 4 месяца назад

      @@user-ez9en7vk2z Whatever the reason for apartheid there is no way that you can expect 80% of your population to accept being 2nd class citizens. Apartheid's demise was inevitable and to think otherwise is fantasy.

  • @FrancoisMoolman
    @FrancoisMoolman 4 месяца назад

    What we were fighting against was exactly that what happened when the ANC took over. History has shown that our fears were well founded.

  • @muddyboots1881
    @muddyboots1881 Год назад +2

    I would say $35M for a dozen aircraft is the bargain of the year

  • @ondmon818
    @ondmon818 Год назад

    great channel but can i ask why does the thumbnail for the video have to have a ridiculous arrow or circle around the item of interest?

  • @kurtamesbury6679
    @kurtamesbury6679 Год назад +1

    @5:06, 46,000 feet per second is 31,364 mph, making this the fastest aircraft in the world. The previous record holder, the SR-71, by comparison, plods along at a miserly 2,193.2 mph... making THIS S. African creation 14.3 times FASTER. The Space Shuttle was capable of 17,500mph, but as you can see, that's only a little more than half as fast as this incredibly fast aircraft.

  • @woodrow1455
    @woodrow1455 Год назад +3

    rate of climb of 46000ft per second idk bout that one chief 5:02

  • @Nothanksjustlooking130
    @Nothanksjustlooking130 Год назад +1

    So glad they drew that big red circle around the plane, I never would have guessed what in the picture the vid was about

    • @thecurrentmoment
      @thecurrentmoment Год назад +2

      Same, at first glance I thought it was a video about surveying vegetation while at high speed, which is something I am particularly interested in, but the red circle cleared it up for me

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn Год назад +1

      These utubes errors happen every time its deliberate to ferment comments boost subs

  • @dannywlm63
    @dannywlm63 Год назад +6

    Does South Africa still have an airforce?

    • @MrSimonw58
      @MrSimonw58 Год назад +5

      Previously known as Gupta airways

    • @deancameronkaiser
      @deancameronkaiser Год назад +6

      Somewhat lol but yeah the old regime had things under control. As for the current one I can't confirm that we actually have an air force or even a military anymore.

    • @GeorgeDeVoogd
      @GeorgeDeVoogd Год назад +13

      We use the SAAB grippen fighters and rooivalk attack helicopter. Sadly, due to blind stupidity, bad governance, uncontrolled corruption, and insane incompetence, the fact that our arms manufacture is bankrupt along with everything else, most of these no longer fly. So, no, South Africa no longer has an airforce.

    • @deancameronkaiser
      @deancameronkaiser Год назад +1

      @@GeorgeDeVoogd we can just say due to corruption that's why our air force and military is up to shit.

    • @Shadow__133
      @Shadow__133 Год назад +7

      @@deancameronkaiserOr a country 😂

  • @goonerfromjhb
    @goonerfromjhb 2 месяца назад

    South Africa also had some top notch pilots with a proud history dating back to WW2 and even the Korean War.

  • @carlstaude8576
    @carlstaude8576 9 месяцев назад +2

    We lost against comunism and the apartheid never ahould have been there but as citizens what could we do??? We fpught black and white together as comrades but politics interfeared again as usuall. Ex SA was an amazing country !!! We had the strongest ARMY AND AIRFORCE IN AFRICA!!!!!

  • @greatwhiteythe2nd804
    @greatwhiteythe2nd804 14 дней назад

    "Rate of climb of 46000 feet per second" Jasis! That is quite a fast Cheetah...