Arsenal Pre Season Issues & Club Vs Country | The Invincible Podcast

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  • Опубликовано: 1 дек 2024

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  • @dirtcom7
    @dirtcom7 5 месяцев назад +38

    Julian: makes good point about City having more players on INTL
    Robbie: trips over syllables to wrongly disagree

  • @Diamond-if4mt
    @Diamond-if4mt 5 месяцев назад +76

    Robbie is doing too much. The top teams also have players at these tournaments

    • @SFP0181
      @SFP0181 5 месяцев назад +8

      He always does too much so it ain't a surprise 😂😂😂

    • @TheNbajaj
      @TheNbajaj 5 месяцев назад +2

      If they go deep deep deep into the tournament then they will be up to speed anyway won't they? It's 4 games over 14 days all the way to the final if at all

    • @ngoni4870
      @ngoni4870 5 месяцев назад +5

      I respect Robbie but he is being ridiculous here. All big teams have the best players who go far in tournaments with their countries.
      Welcome to the bigtime mate! I've never heard these silly complaints from Man City, Madrid, Barca even Liverpool.
      I would respect him if he were saying we need to invest in quality depth across the pitch so we can compete on all fronts.
      This excuse making is small club mentality. Embarrassing.
      He is also first to bat for Arsenal players when world-class debates are being had. World class players, play a lot of games for club and country!

    • @shanedarcy3330
      @shanedarcy3330 5 месяцев назад +3

      It’s actually unbearable to listen to these excuses about pre season

    • @Random__is__resistance
      @Random__is__resistance 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@shanedarcy3330 bang on. unbearable

  • @claudioperdigao3930
    @claudioperdigao3930 5 месяцев назад +22

    Why have Julian on if you aren’t going to take his opinion

  • @heilandgunner
    @heilandgunner 5 месяцев назад +13

    Club before Country. Always, no matter what the competition. I'm with Lee and Julian on this. Internationals are a pain.

    • @paritdoshi9836
      @paritdoshi9836 5 месяцев назад +1

      I would put country before club! I am patriotic towards my country!!

  • @FaizKamran-v8h
    @FaizKamran-v8h 5 месяцев назад +7

    Julian is hilarious and makes some good points. Every other big team is dealing with the same situation we just have to deal with it.

  • @BillowJr
    @BillowJr 5 месяцев назад +9

    Come on, Robbie! Let others speak. Julian is entitled to his opinions, and you keep cutting him off every time he opens his mouth.
    The process of player transfers is quite complicated and requires time to reach agreements for buying and selling players.

  • @astraldooley
    @astraldooley 5 месяцев назад +18

    Is Robbie ever going to let others speak? He's constantly talking over and cutting Julian off.

  • @graysgooner79
    @graysgooner79 5 месяцев назад +6

    Don't understand why this show has a panel, Robbie loves the sound of his own voice.

  • @robertstrong5713
    @robertstrong5713 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love how much more intelligent Julian is than the other two. He ties them up in knots 😂🤣the only way they can respond is to talk over him loudly 🤣😂

  • @MirandaMccabe-ie4sm
    @MirandaMccabe-ie4sm 5 месяцев назад +20

    I rather arsenal win to wolves then England winning the euros

  • @shaynescott5961
    @shaynescott5961 5 месяцев назад +16

    Ian Wright never said WE SHOULD... he simply ASKED, could it work? (WITH A ??? AT THE END)
    It's really annoying that people can twist words in such a way. ASKING "should we?" and stating "we should", are 2 very different things!! 💯

    • @JD-mc3bl
      @JD-mc3bl 5 месяцев назад +1

      It's off season & there's really nothing much to talk about. So people have to talk about even the most trivial things😂😂😂

    • @shaynescott5961
      @shaynescott5961 5 месяцев назад

      @@JD-mc3bl 💯. You're right! But at least get the facts right 😫😂

    • @TYLOTYLOTYLO
      @TYLOTYLOTYLO 5 месяцев назад

      It’s not different. Why did he not say play Palmer LB? Foden LB?

    • @paritdoshi9836
      @paritdoshi9836 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@TYLOTYLOTYLOBecause Saka has played there before in the beginning of his days and Palmer and Foden have never played before!!

    • @moshknows8735
      @moshknows8735 5 месяцев назад +1

      Agree geez!!

  • @ryanwilson368
    @ryanwilson368 5 месяцев назад +18

    Glad your okay Lee 👍

  • @khalzo7804
    @khalzo7804 5 месяцев назад +18

    Liverpool 14 players, Man city 13 players. Arsenal 10. We playing with the big boys now. Let's act big boys and stop the winghing before even a ball is kicked

  • @oladayofabunmi690
    @oladayofabunmi690 5 месяцев назад +1

    Rice was playing in a new team entirely. So he as just learning the of playing for Arteta and Arsenal. If he had gone back to Westham, he would not have been that bad.

  • @gooner72
    @gooner72 5 месяцев назад +2

    I love my England, to the core, and I'd love to see us win a major tournament, but if it impacted on The Arsenal which is my my first love, my lifelong love, I'd rather see us win the league, the Champions League or the FA Cup.

  • @barryceconi581
    @barryceconi581 5 месяцев назад +9

    Glad lee is ok.

  • @kinyeramartin
    @kinyeramartin 5 месяцев назад +3

    Am from Uganda.....that's in Africa
    I support Spain
    But I'd sacrifice the euros for arsenal to win against wolves because there's away a players mentality is killed wen a crucial game at the start of the season is lost.......and also England not Winnig the euros that means we have some of our key players back in the squad earlier on for the pre season preparation 🎉

    • @BenjaminSam100
      @BenjaminSam100 5 месяцев назад

      Absolutely! I'm with you brother

  • @silver_fox4040
    @silver_fox4040 5 месяцев назад +2

    Match fitness is the test when you have a bit of time off not general fitness. But what worries me the most is injures with those still playing so close to the new season

  • @lordsanogo2644
    @lordsanogo2644 5 месяцев назад +2

    First game XI: Raya, White, Kiwior, Timber, Tomiyasu, Partey, Odegard, fabio viera, Jesus, Saka, Martinelli. Martinelli and Saka might play as Martinelli not getting any minutes and Saka is a machine.

    • @TYLOTYLOTYLO
      @TYLOTYLOTYLO 5 месяцев назад +1

      Are you alright? 😂

  • @tarunjakob
    @tarunjakob 5 месяцев назад +5

    robbie laughing at LEE. he wont be allowed onto those rides cos of his weight

  • @SonyTV-rd9il
    @SonyTV-rd9il 5 месяцев назад +6

    Robbie overreacting as usual. Julian’s right on this one, three weeks is plenty of time to rest up. The first game of the premier league is maybe the only one that we won’t be as well prepared.

  • @ianvaughan790
    @ianvaughan790 5 месяцев назад +3

    Great show

  • @MustafaBurnusuzov
    @MustafaBurnusuzov 5 месяцев назад +1

    Your point is that it's just one game, but it should be looked at as a whole campaign. As we know, last season we lost by only 2 points, which is 1 loss. I would always prefer Arsenal!

  • @khalzo7804
    @khalzo7804 5 месяцев назад +16

    Gees Robbie make it sound like Arsenal are the only team with players at the Euro or Coppa America. Ain't Arsenal tournament you know

    • @The-Alcoholic-Author
      @The-Alcoholic-Author 5 месяцев назад +5

      Arsenal channel, we don't give a damn about other teams players.

  • @gooner1756
    @gooner1756 5 месяцев назад +3

    Robbie is so dramatic, calm down
    You’re saying every team is going far, forgetting teams are getting knocked out 😂. Trossard will be back
    We’ll have a very strong team for the first game of the season

  • @MarioHamilton-by1kk
    @MarioHamilton-by1kk 5 месяцев назад +1

    Dare I say, there's a narrative here with the Arsenal players in the England squad? Everyone attacking the 2 arsenal players in the starting lineup asking for them both to be replaced when arguably Saka has been the best player in a team that collectively has underperformed and looked like they won't even make it to the semis let alone to win it.
    Declan has been left to play alongside a player who's completely out of position in Trent and as such has to do more and play a different role than you have seen him play for Arsenal all season.
    Pundits and fans need to give it a rest and just come clean, say what your real gripe is and in so doing blame the manager for his squad selection and formation and team choice, not the players.

    • @TYLOTYLOTYLO
      @TYLOTYLOTYLO 5 месяцев назад

      What makes me laugh is they’ve all criticised Rice but immediately put him in their starting 11s etc.

  • @djpolar5576
    @djpolar5576 5 месяцев назад

    There's a whole team of sport scientist, nutritionist, physio therapist that would've given these players their load management plans and schedules prior to them going off to international tournaments, or if they're on summer break. The preparation never stops, and Arsenal are at a point now where we don't have jokers around the team, very professional squad. Players go through rigorous recovery training after camps and matches as well, it isn't as simple as just being involved in a tournament, its one of the main reasons why this is professional sports, and not Sunday league. You can make the argument if our players didn't take care of their bodies or didn't invest time in being at the optimal condition, but let me know where you see that sort of attitude throughout our squad. Scientifically, it's actually more damaging for the players to take a longer break after such intense periods than to keep playing but just at a different intensity. Thats why during pre-season there's scheduled plans for different groups because some are further ahead in their load schedules than others.

  • @marthamydear5869
    @marthamydear5869 5 месяцев назад

    Get well soon Lee!!!!❤❤❤❤

  • @Steggs
    @Steggs 5 месяцев назад

    I'm glad Lee pointed out about Ian Wright receiving backlash for a mere suggestion. "Arsenal fans" turning their back on Ian as if he went and supported Spurs instead embarrass us as a club and its fanbase.

    • @TYLOTYLOTYLO
      @TYLOTYLOTYLO 5 месяцев назад

      No it’s not an embarrassment. Ian Wright is supposed to be a voice for Arsenal fans on national tv. He knows his responsibility. In the heat of criticism he is suggesting something that scapegoats Saka.

  • @lukelocks9083
    @lukelocks9083 5 месяцев назад

    The ironic thing is having such a jammy draw, (for the 3rd tournament running) with Spain, Portugal, Germany & France in the other half, ENG are due to meet 2 of the best 3 teams on showing so far, in the 1/4's and semi, them being Switz and Austria.
    Bellingham has to be rested, he even said he felt "Dead" in the last game.
    You can't claim Saka scored as it was offside, that's a flipping ridiculous thing to say.
    What you gonna do, rearrange the PL scoring chart last season to include offside goals.
    As kneelagte hasn't brought a FIT LB, play a back 3, with Trent & Saka as wingbacks, Rice/Mainoo as CM, Palmer, Foden & Watkins.
    Palmer has to start, he stood out in his 20mins cameo, coming off a stellar PL season.
    Kane is either not fully fit, or has aged like last years calender.
    ENG need, pace, trickery & width, all which they haven't displayed so far.

  • @willhipp
    @willhipp 5 месяцев назад

    I think it was Brian Clough (feel free to correct me!) who said something like.. 'On paper we were the better team.. unfortunately the game is played on grass'.. I do hope it's true because it's a classic!

  • @shamsiedeenjinadu2657
    @shamsiedeenjinadu2657 5 месяцев назад +1

    Greetings Family. Robbie let's hope that next season Arsenal will do better or the same as this season. And also some where along the line
    You will give your big mouth a rest . And get with the programme..APADTA

  • @dershpatel1383
    @dershpatel1383 5 месяцев назад +1

    Robbie talking @@@@. Beating Wolves all day. We lost the league by one win.

  • @oladayofabunmi690
    @oladayofabunmi690 5 месяцев назад +1

    Robbie so what do you want?

  • @chrisfraser5088
    @chrisfraser5088 5 месяцев назад +2

    These brand new international tournaments during the summer…wow…super disruptive. They should have thought about Arsenal before starting these new tournaments! It’s a shame we’ve never seen anything like this before so we could formulate a rational opinion. Jeeeeeesus…Calm down! Completely useless discussion for 20 minutes, guys.

  • @garydenty9205
    @garydenty9205 5 месяцев назад

    I have interaction with Graham on here and know of Lee due to St Margaretsbury connections but for Arsenal's best interests I hope Saka is dropped to the bench for the rest of the tournament. I am a qualified Fa coach and will let you know why? My answer relates to Benjamin White? If you can guess my answer broadcast what you think? It also relates to Kyle walker!

  • @JoshRay-gp5le
    @JoshRay-gp5le 5 месяцев назад

    Nah too me get saka lw hugging the touchline to give the team some sort of width and getting cutbacks and crosses in

  • @breakingbreadwithbwayne7643
    @breakingbreadwithbwayne7643 5 месяцев назад

    Summer tournaments are part of the job Robbie they have already prepared for that, the player will get 3 weeks off from when they are out the competition and they will have a program for them, but like lee said they should all be ready to play atleast the last Emirates cup game

  • @phill7876
    @phill7876 5 месяцев назад +2

    You guys are Crazzzzy! I would rather see England win the Euros! I would sacrifice Arsenal to be trophyless for 10 years. Nothing is more important than the national success!

  • @usoppsrubberband2078
    @usoppsrubberband2078 5 месяцев назад

    First game no. But any trophy, it is Club over country all day long.

  • @SteveGrass-u7g
    @SteveGrass-u7g 5 месяцев назад

    Itis a worry I expect we will struggle in pre season also if any of our players get to either final. I wouldn't expect them to play the opening match v Wolves if England , Brazil and France were all to get to the finals it will be tough on us ! Possible line up in friendlies in Nygaard white tomiasyu kiwor timber partey smith Rowe odergaard viera trossard Jesus everyone is talking as if Arsenal will sell eight players I really can't see this happening considering arsenal have let two go from the squad already . The most I can see Arsenal buying is 5 that will only mean Arsenal letting 3 players go. I could see all the loan players being sold ie biereth lakonga patino tierney? Etc these weren't in last seasons squad

  • @koushiksrinivasan5162
    @koushiksrinivasan5162 5 месяцев назад

    Think Arteta will sell the ones going to Marbella after couple of game into the Prem in August. Looking at Aston Villa and Wolves will see the likes of Jesus, Nketiah, Smith Rowe in action with subs filled with 1st teamers. After that Arteta will sanction late sale of the current reserves.

  • @AP-Cotswolds
    @AP-Cotswolds 5 месяцев назад +1

    Chill out Robbie - some players already going on holiday and it’s over 6 weeks until the start of the season. If we cannot have a good start to the season at home to wolves without a couple of players then we need a better bench and have no chance of winning the title anyway. What do we do if rice saka and havertz are injured / suspended? We need a good bench.

  • @aclawani
    @aclawani 5 месяцев назад +4

    Robbie acting like there has never been a summer tournament before for european players!

  • @pepteta2265
    @pepteta2265 5 месяцев назад

    even city having lots of their players in the euros.. actually i guess all their starting 11 are busy

  • @cool9146
    @cool9146 5 месяцев назад

    Yeah but being negative about the opening start of the season, turn it on its head and we have an easier finish.

  • @atvf2295
    @atvf2295 5 месяцев назад +3

    This is such a dumb pointless debate, it’s the same for all the top teams ffs who cares

  • @BaR-bf5cm
    @BaR-bf5cm 5 месяцев назад

    Using Gordon is not that simple. Newcastle doesn't play possession football. So, Gordon is a very good but also RISKY dribbler. He WILL lose possessions. and behind him have to be someone good at defending. For example like Dan Burn. But, England doesn't have that kind of player. The closest probably is Joe Gomez or Walker. But, Walker is a fantastic player but cannot invert centrally to help possession from left side like Trippier.

  • @DJ_ASH_B
    @DJ_ASH_B 5 месяцев назад

    Haha we will find out it was the teacup ride that caused Lee to be ill haha! Glad you are better Lee 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

  • @beej03
    @beej03 5 месяцев назад +6

    Robbie pushing the PR/excuses if we drop off

  • @deeplaysgaming4754
    @deeplaysgaming4754 5 месяцев назад +2

    i dont blame lee them rides are just bullshit dodgems and waltzers max

  • @karlgrantham7990
    @karlgrantham7990 5 месяцев назад

    Arsenal winning the first game of the season, handsdown, club over country any day

  • @samolowe4981
    @samolowe4981 5 месяцев назад

    Reason Saka gets so much sticks (despite being England best player for the last 2 years) is simple…Saka is Black, Kane and Folder aren’t!!!!

    • @samolowe4981
      @samolowe4981 5 месяцев назад

      Same reason Watkins can’t get a start despite 19 league goals.

  • @PabloOrozcoRa
    @PabloOrozcoRa 5 месяцев назад

    No way you guys are previewing Wolves when its just the end of June, Everyone goes through the same as us. Stop making it like it’s just us facing these obstacles. Footballers are professionals, they get paid a lot of money to play. It’s their job, you guys are so worried. I’m sure Arsenal have already planned and prepared for after the euros and copa america. A lot of things will change by then like transfers.
    Also Julian has a point, last summer we had a lot of preparation, and we did not start off well. Performances did not match the preparation we had in preseason. A lot of poor performances and draws at the start. Forest wasn’t great, Fulham draw at home, United last minute win, Spurs draw at home.

  • @michaelwillette1461
    @michaelwillette1461 5 месяцев назад

    Robbie yucking it up over Lee's misfortune left a bad taste in my mouth. The man was obviously experiencing a symptomatic bradycardia, which can very easily lead to life threatening arrhythmias. Not a laughing matter.

  • @leecoombs4622
    @leecoombs4622 5 месяцев назад

    Let's not forget England will be playing one game a week Robbie so the players will get some type of a rest .

  • @bosswahgwaan4046
    @bosswahgwaan4046 5 месяцев назад

    100000000% Arsenal winning the first game. Because if we lose there is going to be hella noise and Arsenal could slip up

  • @David-ip4je
    @David-ip4je 5 месяцев назад

    Robbie's infuriating in this ep. They're elite athletes. This happens every 2 years.

  • @BalkanSvinet
    @BalkanSvinet 5 месяцев назад +1

    Robbie is The biggest waffler ever. Whats The point of all these podcasts/live shows, when he shuts everybody down. Every time they make good points, But he dosent agree lmao

  • @JOEY-AFC-LARGIE14
    @JOEY-AFC-LARGIE14 5 месяцев назад

    Arsenal winning the first game 💯💯.. I think about my feelings more and my feelings will get hurt if arsenal lose Frist game

  • @Owensy
    @Owensy 5 месяцев назад

    Im not exactly a huge international fan but id easily take Arsenal winning the first game of the season over England winning the euros. If we lose the league by 1 or 2 points am i going to look back and say well at least England won the euros, am i fuck, COYG 🔴⚪

  • @callumwaddell5145
    @callumwaddell5145 5 месяцев назад

    Rather Arsenal win a throw in than England winning the euros

  • @dalecarriger8938
    @dalecarriger8938 5 месяцев назад

    Did Arsenal start great last season? I'm not so sure. Arsenal dropped points in 10 matches all season. Dropped points in 4 of first 11 matches.

  • @GQrudebwoy
    @GQrudebwoy 5 месяцев назад

    Being the leader at AFTV and all these other channels, Robbie worries too much.
    All this preparation talk due to players representing their countries at the moment. So what would the conversation be if we didn't have any players in the Euros or Copa America and lost our first game. What, then? Robbie relax.
    What they're doing is patriotic, and besides club football, these players have dreams of representing their country.
    Other clubs have key players in these competitions too.

  • @conradhailey9866
    @conradhailey9866 5 месяцев назад

    Partey is 100 percent staying

    • @GoonerSE
      @GoonerSE 5 месяцев назад

      Says conrad on yotube 😂😂😂😊

  • @DNYGdj
    @DNYGdj 5 месяцев назад +19

    Robbie laughing at lee almost having a heart attack... wtf

    • @drup2013
      @drup2013 5 месяцев назад +17

      He clarified that he laughed coz he knew Lee was alright. Come on now..

    • @GoonerSE
      @GoonerSE 5 месяцев назад

      Cute

  • @jackmannion143
    @jackmannion143 5 месяцев назад +4

    Solution for England to fit saka and palmer in the team .. both need to play for England and drop foden . 5-3-2 saka attacking rwb .. Gordon lwb . Walker stones and guehi cb 3 .. mainoo rice and Bellingham midfield 3 with palmer at 10 just behind kane or watkins

  • @conradhailey9866
    @conradhailey9866 5 месяцев назад

    These guys are trying to build this up so bad they will be fine rice and sake will be back in like a week both gabbys barley play saliba is the only one I'd be worried about

  • @officialn.b-me
    @officialn.b-me 5 месяцев назад

    Anyone else gettin simon jordan vibes off robbie 👀....

  • @dwilldos
    @dwilldos 5 месяцев назад

    Robbie stop cutting people off !

  • @hasanboss1852
    @hasanboss1852 5 месяцев назад

    Your biggest issue still isn’t and won’t be dealt with. Tuchel was sacked twice during artetas reign.. and I’d still get him in.. why was he sacked? Because he didn’t meet high standards and didn’t continue winning despite getting champions league.. these are the standards of top teams.. arsenal meh ok hel win next year next 5 years next decade. His tactics and aside from most expensive transfers (which doesn’t take brain) have not been good .. get tuchel asap..if arteta was so great why aren’t European giants trying to get him? Why did Bayern push for relegated kompany and not him? Barcelona don’t have manager why don’t they want arteta? Think

  • @Itsmylife_123
    @Itsmylife_123 5 месяцев назад

    Arsenal always before England so 3 points please

  • @edencorr701
    @edencorr701 5 месяцев назад

    Ireland winning the euros

  • @SammyQ1886
    @SammyQ1886 5 месяцев назад

    As the days go, Robbie becomes more deluded

  • @commsconsult2241
    @commsconsult2241 5 месяцев назад +2

    Robbie is so negative

  • @paulbeckett579
    @paulbeckett579 5 месяцев назад

    Arsenal winning

  • @mrh6221
    @mrh6221 5 месяцев назад

    I’d rather win vs Wolves idc

  • @Tarun_afc
    @Tarun_afc 5 месяцев назад

    arsenal winning wolves game

  • @jt2027524
    @jt2027524 5 месяцев назад

    Arsenal winning the first game.

  • @cancorder1
    @cancorder1 5 месяцев назад +1

    Jesus Christ Robbie stop doom mongering

  • @RhexisUK
    @RhexisUK 5 месяцев назад

    Honestly Robbie it’s not all about you and what you “think”. Others are entitled to have an opinion, allow people to express instead of interrupting every time Julian wants to speak. It’s terrible to watch! Christ..

  • @markgormley9692
    @markgormley9692 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love the podcast but can’t stand them talking about England - it’s just so boring at this point

  • @darrenscott6580
    @darrenscott6580 5 месяцев назад +1

    Robbie let people speak so annoying

  • @colinbengo4606
    @colinbengo4606 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ireland comes first

  • @benjefferson2557
    @benjefferson2557 5 месяцев назад

    Why can’t this just go back to Lee and Robbie??? 😢

  • @Gooner184
    @Gooner184 5 месяцев назад

    What a total waste of a discussion, Robbie just yapping to fill the time.

  • @AlvaMoyston
    @AlvaMoyston 5 месяцев назад

    For me as a Jamaican I want Arsenal winning against Wolves because Jamaica would never win Copa America

  • @waterfordmikey9620
    @waterfordmikey9620 5 месяцев назад +1

    saka is Arsenal Best Player For The Past Three or Four Years Not England

    • @cancorder1
      @cancorder1 5 месяцев назад +4

      He’s won England POTY back to back

    • @GoonerSE
      @GoonerSE 5 месяцев назад +2

      Why so many capital letters 😂😂😂

  • @joshacquaye7796
    @joshacquaye7796 5 месяцев назад

    Robbie should do better. This is becoming too much. Then do the show by yourself if you wont allow others to speak

  • @crocodileteet9837
    @crocodileteet9837 5 месяцев назад +2

    First