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  • the story of the supersonic nuclear bomber North American A-5 Vigilante, the carrier based U.S. reconnaissance aircraft.
    The North American A-5 Vigilante was an American carrier-based supersonic bomber designed and built by North American Aviation (NAA) for the United States Navy. Before the 1962 unification of Navy and Air Force designations, it was designated A3J.
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    Development of the A-5 had started in 1954 as a private venture by NAA, who sought to produce a capable supersonic long-distance bomber as a successor to the abortive North American XA2J Super Savage. It was a large and complex aircraft that incorporated several innovative features, such as being the first bomber to feature a digital computer, while its ability to attain speeds of up to Mach 2 while carrying a nuclear strike payload was also relatively ambitious for the era. The US Navy saw the value of such a bomber, leading to a contract for its full development and production being issued to the firm on 29 August 1956. The type performed its first flight just over two years later, on 31 August 1958.
    The Vigilante was introduced by the US Navy in June 1961; it succeeded the Douglas A-3 Skywarrior as the Navy's primary nuclear strike aircraft, but its service in this capacity was relatively brief due to the deemphasizing of manned bombers in American nuclear strategy. A far larger quantity of the RA-5C tactical strike reconnaissance variant was also procured by the service, which saw extensive service during the Vietnam War. It also established several world records in both long-distance speed and altitude categories. During the mid-1970s, the withdrawal of the type commenced after a relatively short service life, largely due to the aircraft being expensive and complex to operate, as well as being a victim of post-Vietnam military cutbacks.
    The late 1940s and early 1950s were marked by a series of fast-paced advancements in the field of aviation. The aircraft manufacturer North American Aviation (NAA) was one of a large number of companies that sought to harness these recent innovations in developing a new generation of aircraft. In early 1954, the company embarked on a private study into a conceptual carrier-based, long-range, all-weather strike bomber, that would be capable of supersonic speeds while carrying a sizable payload. This aircraft was envisioned as a successor to the abortive North American XA2J Super Savage. Much of this early work was undertaken by NAA's recently acquired Columbus division, overseen by chief of preliminary design Frank G Compton.
    A-5 Vigilante Specifications:
    Orthographically projected diagram of the A-5A Vigilante.
    Cockpit instrument panel
    Data from North American Rockwell A3J (A-5) Vigilante, Aircraft engines of the World 1966/67, Jane's all the World's Aircraft 1964-65
    General characteristics
    Crew: 2
    Length: 76 ft 6 in (23.32 m)
    Wingspan: 53 ft 0 in (16.16 m)
    Height: 19 ft 5 in (5.91 m)
    Wing area: 701 sq ft (65.1 m2)
    Empty weight: 32,783 lb (14,870 kg)
    Gross weight: 47,631 lb (21,605 kg)
    Max takeoff weight: 63,085 lb (28,615 kg)
    Powerplant: 2 × General Electric J79-GE-8 after-burning turbojet engines, 10,900 lbf (48 kN) thrust each dry, 17,000 lbf (76 kN) with afterburner
    Performance
    Maximum speed: 1,149 kn (1,322 mph, 2,128 km/h) at 40,000 ft (12,000 m)
    Maximum speed: Mach 2
    Combat range: 974 nmi (1,121 mi, 1,804 km) (to target and return)
    Ferry range: 1,571 nmi (1,808 mi, 2,909 km)
    Service ceiling: 52,100 ft (15,900 m)
    Rate of climb: 8,000 ft/min (41 m/s)
    Wing loading: 80.4 lb/sq ft (393 kg/m2)
    Thrust/weight: 0.72
    Armament
    Bombs:
    1× B27, B28 or B43 freefall nuclear bomb in internal weapons bay
    2× B43, Mark 83, or Mark 84 bombs on two external hardpoints
    Avionics
    Systems carried by A-5 or RA-5C
    AN/ASB-12 Bombing & Navigation Radar (A-5, RA-5C)
    Westinghouse AN/APD-7 SLAR (RA-5C)
    Sanders AN/ALQ-100 E/F/G/H-Band Radar Jammer (RA-5C)
    Sanders AN/ALQ-41 X-Band Radar Jammer (A-5, RA-5C)
    AIL AN/ALQ-61 Radio/Radar/IR ECM Receiver (RA-5C)
    Litton ALR-45 "COMPASS TIE" 2-18 GHz Radar Warning Receiver (RA-5C)
    Magnavox AN/APR-27 SAM Radar Warning Receiver (RA-5C)
    Itek AN/APR-25 S/X/C-Band Radar Detection and Homing Set (RA-5C)
    Motorola AN/APR-18 Electronic Reconnaissance System (A-5, RA-5C)
    AN/AAS-21 IR Reconnaissance Camera (RA-5C)
    #bomber #aircraft #nuclear

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  • @Dronescapes
    @Dronescapes  Год назад +15

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  • @todd3285
    @todd3285 Год назад +114

    The first model I put together as a child with alot of help from my father . It actually had a bomb in the tail that was spring loaded and would eject it with a push of button . It amazing the things you remember from 60 years ago .

    • @EmperorofMu
      @EmperorofMu Год назад +6

      I've been looking for a plastic model kit of this present day and can't find one. Just wooden ones for 100$.

    • @todd3285
      @todd3285 Год назад

      @@EmperorofMu Google it.
      They're available .

    • @d.r.4453
      @d.r.4453 Год назад +5

      @@EmperorofMu Are you looking for any plastic model kit of the Vigilante or the vintage model kit the OP mentioned above? If its any plastic model kit, Trumpeter makes a Vigilante in 1/48 and 1/72 scale that are easy to find and are a nice kits (built two myself). Then there's the old Airfix and Hasegawa/Revell 1/72 Vigilante models that are easily found on eBay. Old kits but still o.k.

    • @smartazz61
      @smartazz61 Год назад +6

      I think the best part is that you have such a strong memory of dear old dad.

    • @sirclarkmarz
      @sirclarkmarz Год назад +6

      Do you remember the kits that came with battle damaged parts during the Vietnam era ?

  • @barrysmith9407
    @barrysmith9407 Год назад +56

    When I was in the marines I was at the millington tenn. navy training command in 1982 and they had an A5 on permanent display in front of the mess hall. I couldnt believe such a gorgeous modern looking plane was already retired and mounted on a pole.

    • @michaelmartinez1345
      @michaelmartinez1345 Год назад +3

      I was in the Marines at Millington in the spring of '83... 'A' school... I was a 6142 (CH-46 metal-smith), and I still remember the C.O. of the Marines at that training base, Col. Clapp. ... It was a very exciting part of my life... Looking back, I feel that I should have stayed in for 20, but heard about the DOD cuts (Graham Rudman act) so I got out after my first EAS, Dec. Of '86... Great times..

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape Год назад +3

      I remember that plane. In another video I had a conversation with someone else who was there. We both looked for the airplane on google maps and couldn't find it, and after some research I think the guy told me it was donated to a museum to be restored or something. The chow hall building is still there, I think, but it's now a private business or something.

    • @randykelso4079
      @randykelso4079 Год назад +2

      Went through "A" school at Millington in 1963. Of course, the Viggie wasn't there at that time because it was still in the fleet active inventory. But one did trap aboard our ship in '64 when we were doing at-sea workups prior to a Nam combat cruise in '65. That was one big bird! I marveled at its size and beauty, then watched it being launched. Great memories.

    • @mokanlines
      @mokanlines Год назад +1

      The "Viggie on a Stick" was still there when I was a student in 1990 and again as an instructor in1996. I heard that after NAATC moved to Pensacola is when it was removed.

    • @RichA7CV41
      @RichA7CV41 11 месяцев назад +1

      I remember that plane, I was there in 83 for Avionics "A" school. I remember saying to myself the same thing "That is one beautiful aircraft" and have loved the A-5 ever since.

  • @seniorsurveyor
    @seniorsurveyor Год назад +30

    I was a U.S. Navy Aviation Electronics Technician (AT) member of RVAH-6 attached to the USS Forrestall, CVA 59, on the 74-75 Med Cruise. By this time the RA-5C Vigilante had been converted to electronic warfare and reconnaissance. This was a beautiful, sleek, high powered bird. Flight operations were always the highlight of any day. I trained at NAS Memphis in Millington, Tenn, and later on at NAS Key West, FL, before shipping to the fleet. Those were some heady days for me. Thank you for this video!

    • @wayneburch9840
      @wayneburch9840 Год назад +2

      I remember it well. (retired CPO)

    • @debbies3763
      @debbies3763 Год назад +2

      MY TIME ON THE FORREST FIRE , F-14S S-3 VIKINGS, E6B PROWLERS, A-6 INTRUDERS, NIGHT OPPS WERE KOOL.I WORKED AT NIGHT G4 WEAPONS RED .

    • @tombuchmann8248
      @tombuchmann8248 7 месяцев назад +1

      I was at nipstrafac in Key West for their decommission. What a great recon platform....

    • @stricklandsports
      @stricklandsports 7 месяцев назад +1

      My dad was on that same Med Cruise. Five years later he would find himself on the USS Nimitz the same night they provided the helicopters supporting my unit in Iran, April 1980.
      RLTW~Operation Eagle Claw.

    • @seniorsurveyor
      @seniorsurveyor 6 месяцев назад

      @@stricklandsports Wow. If I had re-upped I would of been right there with him. Glad you made it back home.

  • @RCAvhstape
    @RCAvhstape Год назад +13

    What an absolute beauty of a machine. Looks 20 years ahead of its time. That training film at the end is some great stuff, too, pretty footage of it in flight.

  • @jamesbarisitz4794
    @jamesbarisitz4794 Год назад +25

    The amount of research is terrific. The training films remain a favorite for me. Well organized video.

  • @hitorque2734
    @hitorque2734 Год назад +16

    Always worth watching the PLAT when an A-5 came aboard at night. You'd see some lights out in the groove then suddenly this huge thing would flash into view at the ramp. Amazing that something that size and approach speed could operate off a flight deck. Imagine being the back seat guy (RAN, I think they were called) Just a 6" porthole on each side back there, not a full clear canopy. I was on a school tour with the PCO of an A-5 detachment and he almost talked me into transitioning from F-4's to A-5's.
    We'd escort them on their run over the North. Both airplanes had the same J-79 engines but we had missile racks and an external tank whereas the A-5 was clean. When they amped up for their photo run, we'd have to play the inside of the turns or they'd walk away from us. Something about their intake configuration gave them a distinctive howl in the landing pattern. Beautiful and huge, they were.

    • @Nghilifa
      @Nghilifa Год назад +1

      I've heard that it wasn't uncommon for Phantom pilots to stroke the afterburners when escorting the Vigi on their post strike BDA missions due to the Vigi's fast speed down low.

  • @proteusnz99
    @proteusnz99 Год назад +9

    Convair B-36 was the first true intercontinental bomber, Boeing made B-47, B-52. The North American AJ-1 Savage was mixed power plant because of poor fuel efficiency of early jet engines, not lack of reliability, you couldn’t get enough fuel into a carrier-compatible aircraft. Looking back, you get the feeling the real conflict was between U.S.A.F. And U.S.Navy for who would deliver nuclear weapons, the Russian were just justification.
    The RA-5C was a great looking craft, and the reconnaissance fit was state of the art. The nose gear always looked kind of flimsy for such a heavy beast, like the F3H gear. Apparently the RAN in the back seat was more tense during carrier landings than in combat. The proposed interceptor Retaliatory with a third J-79 until you try and work out where you put the radar (compare the volume of the RA-5C nose with the F-14 nose). The linear bomb bay was an imaginative and low drag solution, but never really worked. (There’s a photo of the fuel cans falling out the back of an RA-5C during a catapult launch.)

  • @keithbrown9198
    @keithbrown9198 Год назад +24

    Fascinating. I'm almost 60 and grew up in aviation and USAF service and I barely remember the A-5, I didn't know any of this. Great video! Also ironic that the inter-service rivalry determined the Navy didn't have a strategic role, when our most effective nuclear deterrent are SSBNs (nuclear attack submarines). 🙅‍♀

    • @keithbrown9198
      @keithbrown9198 11 месяцев назад

      @@WALTERBROADDUS Well that would have been *really* expensive, not that us taxpayers aren't bleeding through the nose now. But the BUFF keeps flying, so I'd say that was a value proposition that succeeded. The B-1 and B-2 (and now the B-21)? Not so much. I hope we never find out.

    • @keithbrown9198
      @keithbrown9198 11 месяцев назад

      @@WALTERBROADDUS Oh wow! I had no knowledge of that either! Air Force guy 🙂. Thanks! Though my son-in-law did serve on a carrier (not gonna say which here in public) but got out a few years ago, and I did work with the Navy off and on as C-130 aircrew (enlisted).

  • @shenmisheshou7002
    @shenmisheshou7002 Год назад +12

    When I was in the Marines, I was TAD to VMFA-451 on the USS Forrestal. During that time, I had the great fortune to see a few RA-5C (which is the only use for the A5 after about 1965) doing cat shots and landings. It is a beautiful aircraft and seeing one on the meatball and catching a wire was quite amazing. The cat shots were likewise quite spectacular. It is a large plane compared to the Double Ugly (which is what VMFA-451 flew) and bringing up the elevator, it pretty much had to stick out way over the edge, and when it came on deck, a lot of stuff had to be re-positioned, but it was magnificent to see it launch!

    • @trespire
      @trespire Год назад

      The A-5 sure does look the buisness !
      Not only ground breaking for its day, but a successful design and flown in anger.
      Massive respect to all involved.
      Ex-IAF Kurnass maintainer.

  • @FearlessConservative
    @FearlessConservative Год назад +7

    My Grandma and Grandpa worked on the Vigilante project in Columbus in the 1950's. Beautiful airplane!

  • @stenic2
    @stenic2 Год назад +13

    The most beautiful navy jet ever

  • @Fl-Pride
    @Fl-Pride Год назад +5

    My father in law was a radar tech for the Vigilante, during Vietnam. Man he loved that plane.

  • @cloudattack3279
    @cloudattack3279 Год назад +5

    The Vigilante was static on the deck of the midway museum when i travelled from Australia back in 2012. I was in awe of it. A beautiful jet whilst looking nothing but imposing at the same time.

    • @trespire
      @trespire Год назад +1

      That's the beauty of design, "Form Follows Function " , if it looks good it flies good.
      Hats off to the engineers and maintainers.

  • @JustChuck
    @JustChuck Год назад +3

    The over the shoulder bomb drop sounds like fun.

  • @dummgelauft
    @dummgelauft 10 месяцев назад +2

    Men were men, women were women, merit was the determining factor, and none of the Americans hated their own country, like they do now.

  • @mattjacomos2795
    @mattjacomos2795 Год назад +1

    Great to find this definitive A5 content online. Well done.

  • @Ruckweiler73
    @Ruckweiler73 5 месяцев назад +1

    Leroy Heath was my college Algebra professor at Embry-Riddle in the early '80's and I saw the filmstrip made of the flight with his backseater Larry Monroe.

  • @justachipn3039
    @justachipn3039 Год назад +9

    I was on CVA-62 in the 70s. We had a Bombing Demo and Flight Deck BBQ... we also watched an A-5 do a Mech 2+ Fly-By... Youd think it was impossible for something to move that fast. The Capt. called out Miles at a time like seconds... he's now 50 miles out, he's now 35 miles out, he's now 20 miles out... then we could see a Dot and my sight was fixed on the canopy spotting the Pilots Helmet... he went by and then pulled up and was clean out of sight at probably 30,000+ feet before we Hurd the explosion of sound. The thing was to try and keep your hands at your sides... we all failed !!!

    • @Nghilifa
      @Nghilifa Год назад +1

      An A-3 doing mach 2? You meant the A-5 right, because the Whale (A-3) wasn't a supersonic aircraft, hehe.

    • @justachipn3039
      @justachipn3039 Год назад +1

      @@Nghilifa lol Yup, my bad.

    • @frederickwise5238
      @frederickwise5238 Год назад +1

      See my comment above. I worked frame numbers 62 to 68 back in 1962.. I think it was frm#66, All painted ready for delivery after its final test flt. Uh Oh, came back with paint burned on the fuselage from air friction. The Navy was furious because it delayed delivery for the repaint. NAA was furious because of the delay AND the cost to repaint.
      We never heard any Mach nbrs but he had to be boogying to scorch the paint.

  • @eagleeye761
    @eagleeye761 Год назад +4

    I recall one of these on display outside of the chow hall at NAS Millington, TN.... impressive bird

  • @AnthonyEvelyn
    @AnthonyEvelyn Год назад +3

    I remember first seeing this in an old 1960's Colliers Encyclopedia in full colour! This was before I knew about the new teen series of US aircraft back in the 70's, and I really liked the Vigilante with its futuristic sleek good looks.

  • @harryparsons2750
    @harryparsons2750 Год назад +10

    Distrust of jet aircraft lol. That aged well.

    • @TheJustinJ
      @TheJustinJ Год назад +2

      It has to be absolutely reliable over open ocean. The navy is/was conservative. An old jet also doesn't respond to go-around power it takes as much as 13 seconds to spool up, when missing a cable you don't have 1/4 of a minute to wait for thrust.

  • @SkipGetelman
    @SkipGetelman 2 месяца назад +1

    The A 5 Vigilante was the most beautiful of all Navy aircraft

  • @paulwoodman5131
    @paulwoodman5131 Год назад +4

    The Vigilante was long gone when i was aboard the Eisenhower, but the Tomcat ruled. They mounted a "canoe" like pod on the F-14 for recon work,TARPS pods returned great pictures. I believe the Viggie deployed on only one of the Nimitz carriers, Nimitz. CVN-68.

  • @dougm2745
    @dougm2745 Год назад +6

    You tell ‘em. The atomic bombs saved 100,000’s of American and Japanese lives.

  • @steveowens913
    @steveowens913 Год назад +1

    I was an aviation electrician on F4j Phantoms for VF-102. Our birds had J79 engines and would go Mach 2.23. The Vigi's also had the same j-79's, thus their speed! We had a squadron of the Vigi's on our 1970 Med cruise. I loved their beauty when on the flight deck with them, but didn't fear their size. Flight deck safety is to NOT be in the wrong place, and if not needed to be there during aircraft recovery, then disappear!!

  • @olddog103
    @olddog103 Год назад +4

    VIGGY, BEAUTIFUL

  • @marbleman52
    @marbleman52 8 месяцев назад

    Yay...there are my beloved A-3 Skywarriors..!! I was enlisted Navy and in an aviation squadron , 71-75, and we had four A-3's, along with other jets. They were designated as ERA-3B for being a reconnaissance and an electronic warfare counter-measures configuration.
    I was trained as an aviation electrician, but once I got to the squadron, I knew that I wanted to spend as much time as I could with the Skywarriors, so I became a Plane Captain for our ERA-3B's. I loved it. Each Skywarrior had its own 'personality' and its own little quirks that you had to learn about. They were definitely a 'hands on' jet.

  • @majestic1222
    @majestic1222 Год назад +3

    Interesting upload 👍

  • @fawnlliebowitz1772
    @fawnlliebowitz1772 Год назад

    We lost several Viggies aboard Saratoga in 72, Unlike the A6's and 7's not many came back with battle damage.
    The Viggie was the star of the show on a dependents day cruise. Simulated a Phantom got on the tail of a Viggie and "shot it down". The Viggie nosed up, dumped fuel and lit the AB's........ huge fireball trailed behind it. Pretty cool to watch. Stuff you won't see ashore.
    She had no rudder but the entire horizontal stabilizer moved! It also folded over 90 degrees for hangar bay storage!
    This was over 50 years ago but I still vividly remember it.

  • @Roddy556
    @Roddy556 Год назад +6

    Could you please do a remake where you continuously compare speed to bullets, length to football fields, altitudes to Mount Everest and use the word amazing 87 times?

  • @sewing1243
    @sewing1243 Год назад +3

    The RAN was originally called a B/N (bombardier navigator). RAN didn't become used until the mission was changed to Recon.

  • @maurolimaok
    @maurolimaok Год назад +3

    O documentário mais completo. Gostei!

  • @robwernet9609
    @robwernet9609 6 месяцев назад +2

    Put twin vertical stabilizers on it, it would closely resemble the f15

  • @RV4aviator
    @RV4aviator Год назад +3

    80% power on Final....! Now I know why only the best are selected for Jets....! Cheers...!

  • @trespire
    @trespire Год назад +1

    There is a case to be made for real time tactical recon.
    As an Ex-Phantom maintainer, I still have a soft spot for the RF-4. But it IS a battle prooven Mach-2+ platform.
    If some company in the Defence Sector were to come up with a modernized digitalized real time camera package that would fit in the nose of an RF-4, that might be operationaly viable.
    Some RF-4s can fly high, and much faster than 5th gen at Mach-2+ (on par with a clean F-15).

  • @holdingonforlife1
    @holdingonforlife1 Год назад +2

    Vigilante, what a great name for an attack plane.

  • @SPDLTD
    @SPDLTD Год назад +3

    @29:45 That is Parker Dam, Lake Havasu AZ/CA Border during a flood gate release!

  • @RobertJohnsonmusic
    @RobertJohnsonmusic 4 месяца назад

    We had two RA5Cs aboard the carrier USS America (CVA-66) in the Gulf of Tonkin 1972-73. After a cat launch, the jet jockeys would sometimes set the Vigilante on its tail and quickly go out of sight vertically. An amazing aircraft.

  • @martincalero7390
    @martincalero7390 Год назад +3

    Beautiful plane.

  • @raynus1160
    @raynus1160 Год назад +5

    Not quite. Although they first flew only months apart, this aircraft was the first combat jet designed and flown with FBW:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_CF-105_Arrow

    • @awuma
      @awuma Год назад +1

      These were quite similar aircraft, big and fast, although the Arrow was meant to be an interceptor.

  • @frederickwise5238
    @frederickwise5238 Год назад +1

    4:30 Columbus Oh was where I worked on the (then A3J) Vig, Air frames 62 to 68; before moving to Minuteman I's and II's to work on the same computer guidance package as the A5C. Tho it served different roles in ICBM's than the A5C the D17B was the same computer package.

  • @WhiteIkiryo-yt2it
    @WhiteIkiryo-yt2it Год назад +1

    Wow, this seems like an amazing versatile aircraft.

  • @trevorhart545
    @trevorhart545 Год назад +4

    Beautiful looking aircraft. Revell did a model? Thanks for the history its lack of long term service now make sense. Big aircraft though, it does look like the predecessor to the FB-111 but without the swing wing. Think of all those aircraft manufacturers that no longer exist.

    • @obi-ron
      @obi-ron Год назад

      Airfix made a 1/72nd scale version of this in the 70s. I had one and it was such a beautiful looking plane, I spent more time painting it accurately than I did on assembly.

  • @rbilleaud
    @rbilleaud Год назад +8

    Inertial, not interial. You're welcome .

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    @Dronescapes  Год назад +2

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  • @GoSlash27
    @GoSlash27 Год назад +5

    21:30: INS inertial navigation system "Inertial" is pronounced in-ERSH-ul". The root word is inertia, not interior.

    • @blackberrymw
      @blackberrymw Год назад

      I liked the content to much to nitpick.... but yeh lol inertial.

  • @johnnyholland2775
    @johnnyholland2775 Год назад +2

    My dad was head chief of Maintenance for that first squadron in Sanford in 1961.

    • @stephensanford5273
      @stephensanford5273 6 месяцев назад

      that's fantastic. I ran across some old A5 manual's, NATOPS and such for this airplane. It's very cool. I'd be happy to get you a copy of the documentation I have if you're interested.

  • @olddog103
    @olddog103 Год назад +1

    Saw one of the A3 DEAD, CRASH INTO SUBIC BAY, JATO BOTTLES DID NOT IGNITE , HAD A FULL LOAD OF FUEL, INCLUDING TANKER STORES. NO BODY GOT OUT

  • @bobyoung1698
    @bobyoung1698 Год назад +9

    Ww should charge the Soviets and the Chinese for all the development work we do for them, particularly in aircraft design.

    • @sandgroper4044
      @sandgroper4044 Месяц назад

      Maybe germany should charge for all the technology stolen by America

  • @johnbarber4456
    @johnbarber4456 5 месяцев назад

    outstanding video thank you very much

  • @NothMeeh
    @NothMeeh 2 месяца назад

    Love the story of the fastest and probably highest open cockpit flight.

  • @harryparsons2750
    @harryparsons2750 Год назад +15

    Low altitude nuclear bomber. That sounds kinda dangerous for the crew doesn’t it

    • @jdmmike7225
      @jdmmike7225 Год назад +5

      Not when you're going Mach 2. But I do understand your sentiment.

    • @pat8988
      @pat8988 Год назад +5

      The bomb is not dropped at low altitude. The plane only flies at low altitude en route.

    • @solscarter-us8zg
      @solscarter-us8zg Год назад

      ​@@pat8988hi

    • @redpilledagain8770
      @redpilledagain8770 Год назад +3

      As a kid I watched a B52 fly nap of the earth, so low when I waved the pilot. I saw the pilot wave back!😅

  • @roblockhart6104
    @roblockhart6104 Год назад +1

    Served as the blueprint for the mig25. Most think the f15 was a copy of the foxbat but they are incorrect. The na237 from the ws300 competition, that included a concept that looked strangely like a modern day sukhoi had already studied, designed, and conceptualized. Opting for just a single vertical tail instead of the original two its concept had, the a5 was born.

  • @davidarmour4281
    @davidarmour4281 11 месяцев назад +1

    I worked on A5s THROUGH 3 different squadrons 5hrough the 70s.

  • @michaelmartinez1345
    @michaelmartinez1345 Год назад +1

    An excellent documentary... I did not realize that NAA built these for the NAVY recon missions until.viewing this documentary... It is sad how many were knocked out from ground fire during the after attack recon missions... I'm now wondering if the 'Wild Weasels' reduced some of those ground attack placements into hunks of molten metal...

  • @michaelayares3862
    @michaelayares3862 Год назад +2

    I was stationed in Key West Florida in a vigilante squadron powerful plane ours took top secret photos

  • @Coyote27981
    @Coyote27981 Год назад +11

    Beautiful plane. Weird they didnt go for a twin tail instead of a single huge one.
    It looks way more modern than what it was.

    • @frederickwise5238
      @frederickwise5238 Год назад

      There were problems with the twin tails is why they went to one. Somehow (dont know) the air between the two sucked them in and "bound up the pivots". They wouldnt rotate easily enuf for rudder control. Somehow (??) they solved the problem in later platforms because the Hornet had twins. Go figure.
      I loved working on it with a GREAT crew but I needed to move into computers (see my comment about Minuteman ICBM I and II computer guidance).

    • @O-cDxA
      @O-cDxA Год назад +1

      Have a look at 7:08 in the videos at the early mock up version. It had twin tails, and looked even more like an F-14.

    • @frederickwise5238
      @frederickwise5238 Год назад

      @@O-cDxAProbably during wind tunnel testing was when they found the problem I mentioned in my answer to Coyote27981.

    • @MrKentaroMotoPI
      @MrKentaroMotoPI Год назад +2

      ​@@O-cDxAYes. North American proposed twin tails hoping to create opportunities for a fighter variant. The Navy wouldn't have it. They wanted to minimize weight and drag for the attack aircraft.

  • @joeclaridy
    @joeclaridy Год назад +4

    I swear the Air Force has an uncanny ability to kill systems that threaten their usefulness. Both the Vigilante and the Cheyenne would've greatly benefited our military.

    • @keithpennock
      @keithpennock 3 месяца назад +1

      Air Force (Dad) & Army (Mom) brat here. Grandfather was a B-25 Mitchell Bombardier/Navigator & pilot during WWII in the Army Air Corps & later U.S. Air Force. Interservice rivalry flowed both ways. I agree with you about the pettiness however you can’t view it in a vacuum, the Navy in WW1 and prior absorbed the vast bulk of the U.S. defense budget. You need only read about the troubles Billy Mitchell had with getting the Brass both in the Army & Navy to listen to how airpower changed warfare post-WW1 (he was later proved right & he accurately predicted the Japanese would attack us at Pear Harbor years in advance) but neither the Navy nor the Army wanted to hear it, the Navy because they believed their warships were impervious to air attack with AA batteries and thought no aircraft borne bombs were big enough to sink them & the Army because they viewed the Air Corps as little more than scouts & artillery spotters as tanks & artillery were their priority. That was part of the reason the Air Force was created post-WW2 . When nuke fever dominated all three branches post-WW2 they all squabbled about who should have the nuclear role for budgetary reasons, Army was developing ballistic missiles through Redstone Arsenal, Air Force inherited its nuclear bomber role from WW2 & Navy wanted in on it as a mechanism to maintain their budget in the post-WW2 draw down. SSBMs were still a ways off, so a lot of interesting carrier borne bomber ideas were floated. How practical they were I think is up for debate but I do think the A-5 could have been good if given the time to iron-out its kinks like the train delivery system. The Cheyenne, a revolutionary compound helicopter, was a casualty of several factors: lobbying by Bell Helicopter, a bad live fire demonstration & a bad accident involving a half-P hop that killed the test pilot. The next factor was Lockheed’s poor finances following the Total Package Procurement debacle of the C-5 Galaxy that almost bankrupted Lockheed. Further down the list was the ridiculous squabbling about the Combat Air Patrol role that was at the center of the Key West Agreement. I think the Sikorsky SB-1 Defiant & other recent compounds-rotors show the Cheyenne was ahead of its time but the purchase price was too high especially after the twin-engine requirements of the competition were changed to single-engine thanks to lobbying by Bell making the AH-1 Cobra a more “economical” option. Unfortunate as it was the development of the Cheyenne avionics did not go to waste as much of that would find its way into the AH-64 Apache but I do think we’d be further along in compound rigid rotor helicopter development if they had allowed Lockheed to continue to develop the Cheyenne if only as a test project. The results of the cancellation were so bad though the Lockheed exited the rotor-space altogether, I don’t blame them their finances were in dire straights, what saved the company was the F-117 Nighthawk. Still we are just now coming back to rigid rotors after decades from when Lockheed developed them. The A-5 was a beautiful aircraft no doubt & record setting in zoom climbs. I think the SSBMs were the right approach though much as I think ICBMs were also the right approach even if they did damage tactical bomber development as they did for a time in both the U.S. & Britain. The real issue is doctrinaire attitudes that believed we would never again fight a conventional war that pervaded all three branches during the 50s despite how recent the Korean War was.

  • @dsudikoff
    @dsudikoff 7 месяцев назад

    My favorite model airplane as a kid was the AJ5 Vigilante that I built with my Dad. Wonderful video with great historical footage. One quibble: narrator seems to have trouble with pronunciation of some of the script: for example, it's not interial navigation -- rather inertial navigation.

  • @saul2007t
    @saul2007t 10 месяцев назад

    RVAH-__ We called the Vigalante squadrons the Heavy's: Heavey 7, Heavy 9 on the USS Forestall, in the early 70's.Great history of which I'm proud to apart of (AMH).

  • @gerhardgotzmann8880
    @gerhardgotzmann8880 Год назад

    Very well done, thank you.

  • @villiamo3861
    @villiamo3861 Год назад

    Excellent. Thank you.

  • @abitofapickle6255
    @abitofapickle6255 Год назад +1

    The airforce throwing a temper tantrum about a bomber is the funniest and yet most frustrating shit I have ever heard.

  • @adamrichardson6821
    @adamrichardson6821 Год назад

    Love this plane. First model I ever built.

  • @michaeljohn7405
    @michaeljohn7405 Год назад

    That design is still relevant.

  • @totallyawesome80s55
    @totallyawesome80s55 9 месяцев назад

    I'm currently working at an airfield with an F-11 Tiger (still with Blue Angels paint job) and an A-5 Vigilante parked about 100 meters away from the ATC tower.

  • @jamespayne8781
    @jamespayne8781 10 месяцев назад +1

    Of course the real concern for the Air Force was how much of the budget allocation would be shaved off to support the strategic role the navy would assume. They couldn’t care less if the Navy had nukes. Nukes were originally considered strategic weapons but ultimately many tactical aircraft could carry nukes. Today there’s a great deal more likelihood the first use of nukes would be from tactical aircraft. What we called a selrel or selective release. I imagine many navy planes can carry tactical nukes as well.

  • @olddog103
    @olddog103 Год назад +1

    I was in a squadron that had the same call sign as the Viggies, “ CHECKERTAILS, We we’re the VC5 SQD. YOU CAN SEETHE TAIL OF A CHECKERTAIL VIGGIE SQD BURNING IN THE ORISKANY FIRE

    • @steveowens913
      @steveowens913 Год назад

      We had a squadron of the Checkertails on the Independence on our 1970 Med cruise. Seems to me that the A5's, like the A4 Skyhawks, are sometimes unstable when landing on the carrier. We had one, just one day before our first Med cruise port, have a tail hook just snap off, causing the jet to roll over the end of the flight deck. Both guys, LCDR 's, unfortunately were not recovered...

  • @SpartacusErectus
    @SpartacusErectus Год назад

    Great documentary 👍🏻

  • @Scoobydcs
    @Scoobydcs Год назад

    a lways liked the loook of the vigilante, still looks great today imo

  • @eddy5739
    @eddy5739 5 месяцев назад

    We had 3 ra5cs on the Forrestal on the WestPac cruise. Heard they brought 3 aboard and used 1 for spare parts. Quite the airplane

  • @andriy1000
    @andriy1000 Год назад

    What a lovely airplane

  • @MagMan4x4
    @MagMan4x4 Год назад +3

    I feel like I can see a lot of F15 DNA in the A5.

    • @MrKentaroMotoPI
      @MrKentaroMotoPI Год назад

      A shameless copy, but far superior to McDonnell's previous aircraft.

    • @jameseast7966
      @jameseast7966 Год назад +2

      I think you mean A5 dna in the F15. A5 came to be two decades prior.

    • @MagMan4x4
      @MagMan4x4 Год назад +1

      @@jameseast7966 no, I don’t. I specifically said A5.
      I’m only referring to things like the intakes. They are similar.

    • @jameseast7966
      @jameseast7966 Год назад

      @@MagMan4x4 my error in typing, I did mean to type A5. I worked flight deck on 4 U.S. CVs, 59,60,66, and 67. We flew EA-6a and A-6e. A-5 took up as much deck space as an EA-3. Looked like MACH 2 sitting on the deck.

  • @foxxok88
    @foxxok88 2 месяца назад

    Thanks now I’m gonna go fly my local a5c

  • @ad1vet783
    @ad1vet783 11 месяцев назад

    The Navy never lost aerial reconnaissance capabilities after the A-5 retirement. The F-14 used the TARP system and the F-18 uses the ATARS/SHARP systems.

  • @andrewfeltz9445
    @andrewfeltz9445 Год назад +1

    I believe that there was an A5 on display at subic in the Philippines 🇵🇭

  • @posmoo9790
    @posmoo9790 2 месяца назад +1

    looks like it would be great for the pacific even today

  • @michaelayares3862
    @michaelayares3862 Месяц назад

    I was stationed in Key West Florida in a RVAH squadron in the 70's them RA5C were so loud l didn't sleep for a week when l first moved onto the base

  • @AntonQvarfordt
    @AntonQvarfordt Год назад +2

    1:07 I feel like clearly the Japanese had already pretty convincingly proven that a carrier was an effective platform for long-range bombing :P
    Also: The Dolittle raid really didn't accomplish anything tangible in terms of benefit to the war effort.
    Saying "psychological impact" is a neat trick to say for when there is no visible or measurable impact at all, since you can't see or measure that.
    The actual reason for the raid was PR.
    America wanted to be seen as hitting back and to an even larger extent Roosevelt wanted to make Americans feel like his administration were hitting back.
    It could be years before America was really ready to start bringing the war to Japan and if FDR hadn't really done anything in response to the attack or hit back in any way that could presumably seriously hurt his chances in his upcoming re-election campaign.

    • @stijnvandamme76
      @stijnvandamme76 Год назад

      Not really, Jap carrier bombing was not long range.. They was launched from around 275 miles from Oahu for the Pearl Harbor attack with fighter type airplanes.
      the Doolittle raid, was launched from 700 miles out. Almost twice the distance (originally planned to launch from 500 miles but fear of discovery by fishing boat..) and well beyond the range of any land based recce or anti ship patrols
      That it was mostly a PR gig.. sure thing..But it also made the Japs think about the need for home land defence..Which was really a mind twister to them , Japan never having been attacked by external powers before , ever..

    • @marbleman52
      @marbleman52 8 месяцев назад

      @AntonQvarfordt....Yes, the raid was a psychological boost to the American people's moral after Pearl Harbor. But I disagree with your statement that the Doolittle Raid was just a "neat trick". It was a tremendous psychological blow to the Japanese government and the military. They thought that Japan's distance from America made it almost impossible to be attacked, at least for a long time.
      They were so wrong. They were also so wrong with their assessment of how the U.S. would react after Pear Harbor was bombed, They thought that the American people were weak and lazy and would have no stomach for war and would demand to sue for peace and leave Japan alone. So wrong..!!
      And then, only four months after Pearl....only four....our bombers bombed Tokyo and other Japanese cities. Absolutely, it dealt Japan a huge psychological blow. And then, just two months after that, in June 1942, a short six months after Pearl, the U.S. Navy dealt the Japanese navy a disastrous and crippling blow at the Battle of Midway that Japan never recovered from.
      Japan paid a costly price for completely misjudging America. Japan did, indeed, awaken the "sleeping giant'.

  • @seanys
    @seanys Год назад +4

    Wait… what? It pooped out the bomb? 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @Able-Man
    @Able-Man Год назад +3

    ¿¡¿¡How do ya like THEM APPLES!?!?

    • @tron.44
      @tron.44 Год назад +4

      I don't, I prefer Granny Smith or Golden Delicious.

    • @Able-Man
      @Able-Man Год назад +1

      @@tron.44 😁😅😂🤣!!!

    • @gregkirchner1108
      @gregkirchner1108 Год назад

      Honey Crisp or Super Honey Crisp are the best! 😂😂😂

    • @Able-Man
      @Able-Man Год назад

      @@gregkirchner1108 ¿They still make "Crispy Critters"?...

    • @life_of_riley88
      @life_of_riley88 Год назад

      Breaburn

  • @userjlj
    @userjlj Год назад

    I always wondered what plane the A-5 was when I built a model scale of the lexington, this was one of the planes included together with the skyhawk and a texan trainer(i think).. now I know what that plane was, my mind can be at ease now.. 😁

  • @schabanow
    @schabanow Год назад +2

    What a huge, tall tail. Why? Poor direction stability?

  • @hadleymanmusic
    @hadleymanmusic Год назад +2

    I say it should be revisioned and land based squads or just go on an use scorpions

    • @hadleymanmusic
      @hadleymanmusic Год назад

      Common tech off the shelf without over advanced tech and materials and construction techniques. .........

  • @wolfman007zz
    @wolfman007zz Год назад

    Saw the RA-5C trap and cat many times when aboard the USS John F Kennedy CV-67 1985-1988. Such a beautiful aircraft!!! Loud as sh$t!!

    • @dougtripp4161
      @dougtripp4161 6 месяцев назад

      RA5C was retired in 1979

    • @wolfman007zz
      @wolfman007zz 6 месяцев назад

      @@dougtripp4161 Officially, yes. But it still flew as a test bed aircraft. I saw it!! They used it to test new reconnaissance cameras and sensors. I was there!!

  • @alexandergaus493
    @alexandergaus493 Год назад

    Well- after/before all those broken arrows an ejection system like that for ejecting a nuke does seem a bit safer. Is that so or was that as safe/unsafe for delivering a bomb? I have no knowledge on that subject, obviously.

  • @olddog103
    @olddog103 Год назад +1

    They did NOT want to use the viggy in north Vietnam, went out of the way to make sure they did not get that chance

  • @JDEEZ6969
    @JDEEZ6969 Год назад

    this would be such a cool aircraft for war thunder

  • @ElenaRoach-ji7es
    @ElenaRoach-ji7es 6 месяцев назад

    Am I the only one to notice that in the footage at Kirtland @about 17:00 the bomb doesnt come out the back but looks like a B43 dropped from a fuselage bomb bay OR the port wing? It definitely doesnt come out the back.

  • @adamreznik6374
    @adamreznik6374 11 месяцев назад

    @21:25 "...the navigator was given an interial navigation system" - This should be INERTIAL navigation system.

  • @bosuttlutt
    @bosuttlutt Год назад +1

    The brownest pants in the sky
    Are what you land in after setting the "open cockpit speed record"

  • @ronlackey2689
    @ronlackey2689 11 месяцев назад

    I can't imagine what brass cojones it took for those pilots to fly a TWO engine bomber off that pitching, short flight deck. No catapults in those days boys!

  • @АндрейХаритонов-й7ь

    Non-toxic dipholiant?! Don't make me laugh.

  • @johannbezuidenhout2976
    @johannbezuidenhout2976 10 месяцев назад

    Imagine if someone just went, "why don't we try an Interceptor version?"

  • @rgloria40
    @rgloria40 Год назад +2

    How history repeats its self? For example, right now every jet the US NAVY has can not travel MACH 2.0. Therefore, the Navy is at a big disadvantage to countries like China were most of their Stealth fighter can achieve Mach 2.0+ at supercruise. I don't know the details on how the NAVY got into this position of weakness... It is just cycle and is needed. However, it appears to be US Army and US Air Force Officer supporting NAVY Officer without advance STEM degree as well as "greasing the palm" in contracts. Now we need to get stealth jet back up to Mach 2.0 +. PS Before the F14 was able to do MACH 2.34 and had no problem doing intercepts.... The Navy has problems doing hypersonic intercepts as well as ballistic, drone and etc...

    • @TheJustinJ
      @TheJustinJ Год назад +1

      The Navy aircraft carry Mach-4 missiles that don't miss.
      And if they do miss, they have this enat trick where they make a 40G 180 degree turn and come back and smash the target it missed...

    • @rgloria40
      @rgloria40 Год назад

      @@TheJustinJ I pretty sure you pass out at 40G... However, if the US NAVY has to rely on US Air Force Mach 2.0 active duty jets it only means budget cuts for the NAVY.... Come ON Common Sense...

    • @NothMeeh
      @NothMeeh 2 месяца назад +1

      @@rgloria40the missiles doing high G turns are un manned.

  • @RCAvhstape
    @RCAvhstape Год назад +1

    21:27 Inertial is pronounced "in NERSH all"

  • @fooman2108
    @fooman2108 Год назад +1

    My dad, who is the carrier 🎉 for over 40 years. But not an attack jockey. Told me reason that the vigi-bird had a second seat was so the guy in front seat could TRY and get it in the deck, and the guy in back seat could PRAY THEY WALKED AWAY FROM IT!

  • @Thunder_6278
    @Thunder_6278 6 месяцев назад +1

    Even 60 years later, it's still a cool looking plane. I bet it could be useful in Ukraine for quick localized recon. Oh well.

  • @thegreyhound1073
    @thegreyhound1073 Год назад

    We could really use the A3D if only as tankers. Using the super hornets as to tankers is going to wear out aircraft well ahead of the designs expected to.