Endless Drum Sanders! From coiled up belts.
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- Make your own long-lasting drum-sanders! This video will take you through the entire experience. Or just skip all of this and buy one. But just so you know, these homemade sanders will outperform anything you can buy.
~Costs~
● Glue sticks:
$6.28 for 50; requires ½ stick per drum = 6¢ each.
● Steel Rod - 5/16":
$8.75 for 4'; requires 4" per drum = 73¢ each.
● Sanding Belt - 6x48":
$3 for 4 strips; requires one per 1½" drum = 75¢ each.
Total: $1.54 per drum.
~Chapters~
0:00 Intro
2:06 Steel
4:48 Sandpaper
7:33 Wrapping
8:51 Glue
9:44 Doubles
10:32 Overview
11:10 Test Questions
14:43 One more thing...
17:32 Cone test
17:52 Outtakes/tips
Where's the description? Two things: 1) it was too long, and 2) it was too vain or cynical or negative or something. I'll work on repackaging it this morning, but no promises; I may leave it redacted. To summarize, it started off as a tirade about the skewed perception of economy from within a first-world context. The second part was about click-bait (because I used it again here), which included a promise to return to our regular-old boring content next week without any added sensationalism, in spite of the fact that this will no doubt cause a drop in activity. It also said something about how I turned off the mid-roll ads for you in exchange for using the bait, because I don't want you to think I'd deliberately waste your time. I respect you more than that, and I appreciate your attention, no matter how nasty and misanthropic my description blurbs can get. The warm, fuzzy thesis that closed it all together was: [We owe it to each other to spend some time producing for mutual benefit, and not to only consume for exclusive gain.] Sounds like Leftism, I know, but it has a message of centrism if you read the whole thing. Something about threading a needle means going through the middle, or something. The idea was to tie together (actual) economy, individuality, honesty, and respect. 
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I've been making these by spooling them up on a drill, for 43 years, but now I just buy them.
Same.
Hattrick! Nicely played 😂
2 birds.
Top comment!
@@savage6394 birds aren't real
Absolutely fantastic video. Perfect amount of entertainment, balanced with brilliant ideas. Your attention to detail is truely appreciated. Every camera angle is perfect. Thanks for your content, keep up the great work!
Nice of you to notice. Some of those shots are tough. Takes a long time to figure out how to make clear videos.
@9:15 another handy tip for glue guns: instead of just stuffing the next stick in, dab a little glue on the end of it first.
While needing a few extra steps to end up with a narrower shaft, this trick would also save a ton of money for the Dremel like tools!
really liked the sanding cone bits of the video, and in general the little details in the design that came from using this accesories for a long time
Thanks. If done right, these are the best.
It's a game changer for chamfering soft wood. The router just leaves a mess.
As someone who lives in a country where normal drum sanders are not cheap, this is huge! You know it's a great idea when you're mad at yourself for not thinking of it.
"The sandpaper won't get you laid bro"
Great video!
excellent video- that last part is soo true! A stitch in time saves nine.
Thanks. That's one of the best metaphors ever.
9:40 a shot straight out of 'How It's Made'
Also I finally know what that tool is know as in English... Coping Saw. I've been calling it jeweler's saw for a long time. Sometimes it's very hard to find a proper translation of tool names.
I have been doing this for years and found that it is easier to spool it up with a drill, but honestly, you should just buy one.
lol
I already bought these factory made slotted thingies for 2,35mm shaft gold smithing dremel. Never occured to me I could build them myself and in any diameter I want. Thanks man!
You sir, are a genius! Yes one can buy, but there's a satisfaction in being self reliant.
Nice video and a wonderful idea that's easy to implement. Thanks for sharing
Such a clever idea superbly
Presented 😊
Brilliant idea!. Love the cone version.
I've really liked and appreciated your ideas. Very good methods.
Excellent idea - well worth the time invested.
I love hearing that. Thanks.
I use homemade drum sanders all the time. I would use my store bought one if I could ever find it. My trick is to just tape a piece of a sanding belt onto a hole saw. I like your sanding cone, I might make one of those.
Most of us probably _do_ use homemade ones. Last video really ruffled some feathers. Some people prefer store-bought tools for no reason.
Brilliant idea, I will be making these.
Really like the last part of outtakes, as a maker i appreciate all your tips and the passion you put on explaining them.
Fantastic technique.......very handy to know how to make them.
Absolutely a great video! Very nicely balanced berween facts, good information, humor, attention to detail and excellent camera work! Well done!! Would love to see more!!
Very handy tips
18:25 that narrow strip - just gave me a whole new perspective on making fast packaging crates/frames with edge banders for heavy objects - thank you
dude, hot glue gun tips much appreciated. this diy is epic, will definitely be adding this to my "must-make" roster.
8 point star job,4 sure-shure,thank U !
Besides the obvious creativity, I really like the camera work and general production values, such as crisp and funny narrative.
The idea of sanding sandpaper amuses me very much. Looks very useful, and I'll definitely be making a sanding cone sometime soon
Lots of people use hot glue to make temp things on wood like a slead for planning it will not stain wood. There is no such things as scraps of hard wood ! Even the sawdust is useful lol.
Super cool and thanks for taking the time to break it down. Im thinking cut out santa faces frome any sale papler they stuff in my mailbox after turkey day and glue it on the top x 25 and my Xmas obligations are done.
Brilliant video
Really nice video. Thank you
this is a goldmine of information
Well I now have my next evening project because these are great..
thankyou for sharing.
Oh and I use the copper pipe drill brushes all the time now
You can also make cones by rolling up a strip thats cut at an angle on one side. I use small off the shelf ones on a die grinder and often peel away the outer layer when its worn, or to make a narrower tip or specific shape.
To me, this is genius
Thanks for sharing all your knowledge, pocket!
awesome video again and another game changer i didn't think you could top the steel cable end brush but apparently i was wrong i will never throw away a sanding belt again 👍
Thanks a mil! I really like the video and will definitely make some for myself. For the metric guys out there 5/16" = 8mm.
Hot glue, bicycle inner tubes and golf balls; Use these and i seems that one can make anything.
Thanks for another great video.
What a Wonderful Video.
Thank you for showing & Sharing your ideas. This is very helpful. I am going to make a bunch, love the cone ones as well. You/ I are never to old to learn New Things.
Thank you😊
Thanks! Let me know how you like them!
@pocket83squared I sure will, everything you did to make them, is pure genius
He's back! Haven't seen a video in a while it seems.
Excellent as always. For the cone, you could add a small layer of hot glue on the wood part to work like rubber. I wonder if you could make a ball one out of the right size sand and a golf ball with some sort of epoxy. If you made it thick enough, it could wear away and regenerate like a stone of sorts.
Thanks for this you just told me how to save a bunch of money
For a Drew Barrymore doppelganger you have a very deep voice.
So handy!
That cone usage bro
Good vid :-)
wicked awesome
Thanks.
Nice, I have lots of odd size belts that won't fit any of my machines. They will now become sanding drums.
Great idea and video! I wonder if silicone instead of PVA glue would work better? It'd be more resistant to heat and probably just as easy to peel! Just a thought 😁
Drum sanders are PRECISELY what fixed my marriage.
Though I do appreciate that not everyone has that many g-warts on an accessible body part
Nice. About 18:02 tip about marking. I'd sugesst a real woodworking marking with a flag/V - I think Paul Sellers had a video about it many years ago (to make a "V" so the point of V is the measurement, and that tip can be adjusted if needed by adding to the tip, also had some marking extending to an edge, the one was refferenced off, an then that edge belongs to the reference face.. preferably that was the first face planed and trued)
With regards to the rubber padding layer you mentioned on the storebought drum sanders, would a thin layer of silicone sealant or equivalent work similarly allowing you to wrap your sandpaper tighter, or would you consider that added complexity for minimal gain?
My gut reaction is to ask, _why do it, if not necessary?_
But let's humor the idea!
Did you see the part where I was pressing down against the Maple really hard, and the sander ended up becoming a bit convex? If we were to squirt a THIN line of silicone down the center of the strip as it was being coiled up, this would act like a filler that would prevent the drum from dishing inward like that. It would also help prevent the coil from separating.
Problem is, would it stick to the sandpaper grit (too well) and reduce its affect? Maybe. If I were to experiment with this idea, I might try spraying the grit with soap-water first; doing so would prevent the silicone from binding well to the active part of the sandpaper, and the added moisture would help it to cure even though it's contained within a wrap. Hehe: let me know how it goes!
@@pocket83squared Originally, I was thinking about this idea to add a cushioning layer on the wooden cylinder frame you showed off at the beginning of the video, but you raise an interesting point: if the there were some way to make the silicone stick more to the backing than the grit (like with the soapy water), that would be an interesting solution as well. If I do some experimentation with this in the near future I'll update my comment.
I saw all your videos of your board games. you said that you have one ready that you don't want to release for free. I wonder when you're going to release that board game.
I look forward that board game.
There are several finished (abstract) games that I have yet to release. One is pretty good, and another is my masterpiece. I really want to get them out, and I wish I knew how to proceed.
Great stuff,, I'm just curious on the cone, what did you use to hold it? It looks like some shrink wrap, but maybe not? Thanks for your time.
That's just a short piece of bike tube. It's like a rubber band (I mean, well, it is!). Thanks.
@@pocket83squared Thank you!
Damnit...I bought a set of those a month ago 😒 Got to admit to being rather unimpressed with them. These on the other hand look like they will be much better suited to my projects and the cone version means no more getting the router out to do round overs on holes!
awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks!
Cool
I've enjoyed your approach and content for years. Don't know why others don't. One question I have is where do you get 6" x 48" sanding belts so cheaply?
"Warrior" Brand. Harbor Freight, near the back-end of the store. $15 for five. They come in two grit types, and I used the more coarse here.
Why viewers don't like me? _Abrasive_ personality, I guess.
I saw 80 grit on one of the belts, is that your preferred grit for this use? or recommend a series of grits to go from?
Depends what you're using them for. I wanted something that could do some real shaping for once. It would be nice to keep a finer set also.
And it never hurts to have a hot saw blade that's at least three quarters of an inch deep
WHERE TF WAS THIS VIDEO YESTERDAY 😂 didnt even occur to me. Wouldve actually solved all my problems. And you couldve made those cuts in about 15 seconds with a cut off wheel or even a dremel
A grinder cutoff wheel makes a cut that's too wide. Dremel cutoff wheels take too long, and they're too fragile. Hacksaw works best. Note that I was making/using these things for years before posting a video.
i like putting them on my 25,000 rpm air sander and seeing if they will explode or not. they always explode lol. they shouldn't be a jacob's chuck on that sander if they don't want me chucking random stuff into it
Buy a rubber stick as well, I bought one for my belt sander and they last about 4x as long. Works on any sand paper an they last forever and only cost like £9 on Amazon.
Use the artificial rubber/polyurethane soles from old shoes, same stuff and free.
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I have difficulty believing that I am the only person who said, out loud, "OH NO MISTER BILL" at the appropriate point in this video. I dunno, maybe I am. That'd stink though.
why rotate (not bend) the ruler ?
Instead of cutting a groove down the center, couldn't you just maybe duck tape or even a bit of super glue? The groove would certainly be more practical but a simple rod should work if you don't want to cut that groove down the middle. This is a great idea, Thanks for the vid!
It's a case of _do it once, have it for life._ I strongly recommend cutting the groove. Try it on just one, and you'll see what I mean. Thanks!
"It's about the cones."
2:55 that is not true, what do you think the rest on your bench grinder is for.
I agree on this in regards to a wire brush, but the grinding stone no. If you grind say a drill, you will place the tip against the rotation.
Buying them is no fun, And I use a crepe block to clean them.
Play safe from Elliot Lake, Ontario, Canada.
Sanding cones will make glory holes _a LOT_ more comfortable...
Not if you're on the receiving end.
@@pocket83squared LOL
@@pocket83squared It kind-of depends on what you consider receiving in that transaction...
Weirdest comment ever.
Not even close. By an order of magnitude.
Clever idea, Pocket! I will certainly give this a try. I continually prefer to make and repurpose things rather than throwing away the old just to be something new.
I do have one quick opinion on editing. Please don't put pop-culture clips into the video. I think it degrades the quality and will make the less watchable in the future. It distracts from the simplicity of YOUR great idea and video. I think it's a editing trend across RUclips and I hope it goes away.
In the general sense, I agree with you. I also despise the jump-cut, and I've been pressed into implementing that, too. But I do not live in a vacuum. Consider the context; notice the clickbait? This piece of content wasn't designed only for my general audience. Beyond that, I've also come to accept that (contemporary) videos are ephemera, and although I'd like to think of these as pieces of timeless media that will serve as a repository for posterity, in reality, nobody's watching them even now. I think ten seconds of pop-culture is an acceptable compromise. Especially since the references were 25 and 50 years dated. Viewers say the same thing about music, but I still like a little smooth-jazz on the occasional transition screen. Variety, you know. I've made hundreds and hundreds of videos now; it's nice to spice it up here and there. I also thought both were funny. You have to understand that my sense of humor is not likely to align with yours.
Your point is still noted and appreciated, and I do promise not to start bombarding you with a flip-book of loosely-related pop-culture clips. That trend really _is_ repulsive videography, and it's only there for building familiarity. In the selection-process of high-view video, unfortunately, it works.
The Answer: why take the car, go to the shop, find a parking space, enter the shop, look for it, choose it, find the best one or the cheaper one, cue at the checkout, answer at the neighbour stupid questions, go back home, realized you forgot something or you take the wrong one, go back, and......
special hole
Back in the 60's, when my Dad was a kid, he once encountered an elderly substitute teacher who was extremely old-fashioned. While addressing the class to describe a mistake she had made the night before, she made a _new_ mistake by using the old saying, "I pulled a real boner last night," to which my (future) Dad started howling at in laughter: "Hahaha! BONER!" Until, of course, he was led away from the classroom by his ear.
@@pocket83squared ah, childish humour, never tires. thanks for that story and video man guy dude. enjoy your special hole
why is it that it's always 35 years?
the comment never says 20, or 25, or 40 years. it's always 35 years
be that professional woodworker, or shop owner or what have you. it makes me suspicious of the validity
Because it's the stereotypical late middle-ager (who started working in his teens) who's out demanding that validity in the first place. We really start to grasp on the downhill slide.
hmm? why not just spool it with the drill? or just buy one? in any case, ive been doing this for decades, its not anything new. now, if you made a spherical one...
You are mistaken Your Sizer getting sharp not Dul
I don't understand you.
@@pocket83squared if you are cutting sandpaper with a pair of scissors it don’t get dull but sharpened
6:01 you sound just like my ex wife
That's odd-she hasn't complained about _my_ measuring.
🤣😂🤣
@@pocket83squared Does your wife know that his ex wife is not complaining?
Who is Drum Sanders and what is he hiding???
oh yeah these shits are way overpriced and dismantle on heavy use