@@davelikesbacon You make it sound like he wasted his career. He had several opportunities at a championship and won quite a few races. That's more than allot of drivers had. Back during the bulk of Gregs career Roush was as good a team as there was in NASCAR.
@@hawki5120 no, I didn't make it sound like he wasted his career. I said that he was loyal to a fault and it cost him a better shot at a championship and more wins. Because that's basically what he said.
Agreed. He got screwed out of that championship and I bet that's why he left the sport. Debris cautions? NASCAR lost a lot of credibility doing that years ago. I'd love to hear what Carl has to say about that if he's ready to talk.
@@zaymclovin4178 I definitely agree with that. That’s exactly why I would like to hear an interview with him in a setting like this. He is one of the drivers that I feel is closest to the fans regarding humility and honesty. I’m the media is the only reason I see as to why he wouldn’t though, and I don’t blame him at all.
This popped up in my feed watching Biff helping with the hurricane relief. Always loved and respected his driving but he’s an even better man. The help he’s providing is unbelievable to people.
The driver selection worsened as well. Ragan was worse than Martin. Stenhouse was worse than Kenseth. Bayne was worse than Edwards. Newman was cooked. When Kenseth returned, that was purely for sentimentality, he was more cooked than Newman. They’re just now starting to turn things around with Buescher and Kez.
When the other team has every little component ,nut, washer on their car optimized to the nth degree with Finite Element Analysis , and they have a team of 3 engineers for each part of the driveline and suspension system .. it's time to go hunt
It's so nice to see Greg be honest about his experience at Roush. Saying that they didn't spend the money and technology to stay competitive l, and the contract offers he got, it really makes you think how elite Greg Biffle really could have been if he had switched teams.
No Mark left because he only wanted to run a part time schedule and Jack wouldn't let him do that. That is about the time they started going downhill though. Before that time you weren't leaving Roush for better equipment. They were at their peak in those years.
Jamie Mac is a good example too. Leaves Roush in 09 and in 10 he wins 3 races including Daytona. Jamie said he always felt like he was being lied to at Roush. Never felt like home. Interesting
In 06 Jamie McMurray joining Roush was viewed as a super team in the making. Jamie McMurray was good driver, there's no reason he should have ran as bad as he did with Roush.
Burton has a career renaissance at Childress. Busch goes onto drive and win with Penske, Stewart, Ganassi, and 23XI. Martin has a title-contending year with Hendrick. Edwards and Kenseth both get more competitive cars with Gibbs. And of course, J-Mac has a career year in 2010. Biffle dug his own grave with the shovel Jack gave him.
In my home, we love good hard racing - dicey moves, pit strategy, tire strategy, take no prisoners.. and back in the day, we (especially my dad) really liked to watch Greg Biffle. He was a scrapper, seemed to be as tenacious as Ryan Newman when it came to getting around him for position (not like Pull Over & Wave'em By Mark Martin), and just ran his guts out on every lap. He didn't give excuses to TV or radio either. Mad respect. His loyalty to Jack Roush did cost him a Cup championship, but in a way I could understand it - you dance with one who got you to the party. To hear Greg talk so passionately in this interview still, years (almost a decade!) after the fact, shows to me it's something stuck in his crawl. Visions of Coulda Woulda Shoulda? 20/20 Hindsight? With Brad Keselowski and the modern grasp on how technology of this sport evolves AND what to do about it, hopefully RFK will be able to overcome what I still consider a major deficiency in their arsenal ESPECIALLY with the NextGen POS cars. Good interview DMP and DJD! Sure hope y'all're gonna be able to swing a pre- or post- college football season interview with Eli Gold, and my favorite MRN reporter (and HOF exec director) Winston Kelley, and longtime celebrity/fan Riki Rachtman sometime soon!
Yeah, he really was good at running his guts out every single lap… he used to just tap the right-rear of his car against the wall coming out of the corner and that was just how on-edge he would race lap after lap. I remember Benny Parsons would say that that was “just Greg’s racing style”. He was fun to watch.
He’s right about the people thing. Get the right people in there and it would’ve been different. Letting Wally Brown go was the first crack along with some of the aero guys. Greg really is a great person to talk to. He was at Jack’s HoF ceremony, and we talked a good bit. Robbie should’ve been over the shop. And hiring some killers would’ve changed it all. Maybe Brad can get it back. I think he will.
Not like Greg can get fired...... It's his experience to tell about and Jack can't do anything about it. I bet if Jack hears about it he might get made though.
Wow! Greg is really open and willing to talk... not to mention a really good speaker.. why isn't he in the booth announcing or a pit road reporter? That would be awesome!.. Proud to say he comes from my neck of the woods...
Ward Burton suffered the same fate. Ward was loyal to Bill Davis, and was tossed aside at the end of 03 in favor of Scott Wimmer, who was just plain awful in Cup. Had Biff left when Carl and Matt did, maybe he could have a better ride. But instead, he remained and in a way fell victim to the charter system
It goes to show you, don't have any allegiance to your employer. They will chop you off at the knees if there's two bits in it for you and leave you hanging out to dry. I've seen it time and time again
Greg Biffle was a local racer, everyone at Portland speedway was expecting big things from him. I met him several times, he was around mutual friends of my father's. We were so excited when he ran trucks and then cup cars.
That brought about a very interesting perspective. Some of it I already saw, yet areas like Jack Rousch wanting the crews to have a big say in the direction of that car. I still have immense respect for Jack. He is very capable at so many different forms of motor sports that should amaze people when they only begin to hear of how much impact that he made in motor sports. This is one of my favorite podcast
I never paid much attention to Greg during his career but he comes off as one of the more intelligent guests to appear on this show. I never disliked him just treated him as an afterthought. He seems like a cool guy. I’ll root for him when watching old races now lol
When Roush Racing was the top Ford team along with Robert Yates Racing, they were the top 5 championship standings every year. Biffle mentioned how much as a team struggle to catch their competition with advancing techs and engineering. Should he had left? Could be. Kenseth and Edwards left Roush for JGR and Roush won two more cup races in 2017 with Stenhouse. Penske and then SHR became the two top Ford teams, Roush was the third Ford team that continue to find its winning form. Hopefully with Keselowski taking part of the team's ownership, the team will turn it around eventually. Not this year but future down the road. Biff did came back and won Texas truck race with KBM Toyota. Biff still has the fire in him.
I absolutely love the respect these 2 have for one another the way they all learn from Biffle and the way Biffle respects Dale, I always admired Biffle's driving style and loyalty. We truly need to understand who is speaking here.
I didn’t think too much of Greg when he started driving but I have since heard from him now and Martin and Kenneth about some of the inner workings at Rousch. It is refreshing to hear all these different perspectives from the teams I watched rise and fall. To be honest, Greg was a much too talented driver to stay at Rousch as long as he did.
Great interview as always. Keep them coming! Please get more racers on the show like Ron Fellows, Derrike Cope, Dorsey Schroeder. Maybe another round of DW.
This interview confirms my thoughts on what was happening at Roush. Was so sad to see Martin getting beat out of the pits and losing 2 to 6 positions every time he'd go in as Gordon's crew was doing 12 second pits. Could NOT understand why Roush chose not to answer such a huge game changing component. I guess he thought Mark could just race his way through all the cars each and every time he lost positions in the pits. You wear your car out eventually AND your drivers. Roush refused to move forward with all the technology like he was afraid of it or he thought he could beat it with experience. His stubbornness was the teams downfall. Biffle took the high road in this interview.
More than likely Roush thought that he could beat the tech with the old way of doing things, and while that worked for a good long while, eventually the tech just got too good and it all started crashing down
Mark has said in interviews and podcasts that Jack is known to be incredibly cheap. Which is why when Mark when to Hendrick he was so blown away at how Rick ran his team in comparison to Jack. For example while Mark was at RR he would have to help setup the car and even add things just because Jack didn't wanna pay for it. But at Hendrick he didn't have to do hardly anything at all because Hendrick could setup up the car perfectly and then finish tweaking it in practice to make it perfect. I also think that's where Mark learned about simulators and everything. So with Brad buying a piece of the team and having ownership as well as being a driver Brad is having to try and bridge the gap in technology and practices that Jack refused to try. Which is why they are just now been able to run decent.
@@lordfatcock Oh yeah, Roush was very tight with the purse strings. Hendrick was willing to do what it took. Including being the first to bring in the big tech guys. That jacked up the price to play in a big hurry.
Nice to see Greg Biffle and here his story about his experience at Roush I have a piece of his Busch car my cousins husband a longtime ago took me on a tour at Roush’s race shop and gave me a souvenir of a big piece of Greg Biffle’s sheet metal on his wrecked car
Man it hurts to hear Greg Biffle say that he was loyal to the sponsors 3M and others is why he didn't wanna leave. Because if you remember in 2015 when Roush was running bad 3M dropped there full season sponsorship to join Jeff Gordon's retirement tour! An he had to find full funding for 2015. And then to watch Edwards and Kenseth have the best seasons of there careers and almost a championship. His loyalty was is Downfall!!
Awesome show, the Biff is awesome, it is fascinating hearing the deep dives into those glory years of the early-mid-2000s. The sport was on fire, Roush was a powerhouse, especially after the Yates engines partnership came in. Still remember Kurt running the Biff over in the All-star race in 04 or 05, when Kurt had the Yates engine and Greg the Roush, the power difference was amazing.
Super cool to learn some of the details of this sport. I was never a fan of NASCAR until seeing this show. I had no idea what made a team good or bad and what goes on behind the scenes. I also didn’t know how technical it is and interesting . Thanks for the awesome video/show🙂👍
I remember talking to Mark Martin at Richmond in the first year of the radial tires, he said he and Roush were having trouble adjusting to them. Also talked to Mark at Bristol in the first year of the Nascar issued ignition, and the first year of the Fuel Injection. They were way behind in the tech. involved. Jack was old school carb. and ignition guy, so they stayed behind the curve.
Jack crashed a couple airplanes and suffered some very serious injuries. Greg, Carl, Matt and Mark were all pilots and flew them selves to work regularly. Aviation bound them together, and nearly cost a couple of them everything a few times. I don't know if Jack's accidents affected his ability to lead his organisation but they sure didn't help.
THANK you. Biffle wasn’t at fault for the car, but at the same time, he kept signing multi-year deal after multi-year deal after multi-year deal. He contributed to his own demise. While Martin, Burton, Kenseth, Edwards, Busch, and McMurray all got out and experienced varying levels of further success, Biffle kept chaining himself to the basement radiator
Greg biffle...the biff I still remember when he won at homestead when Johnson lost championship by 8 pts. If Johnson could have passed him and won he would have 8 championships. But if he had won that first one then maybe it would have messed up his drive to win others. Never know but I remember not liking bif for a long time because of that one race. Lol He was a great driver!
I've been hoping for the Biff to be interviewed by Junior. This is going to be a good one, for sure! I hope that Junior will get Biff to tell his side of the story about Benny discovering him in the Northwest and his relationship with Benny Parsons.
what a great conversation. i was never a Biffle fan back then because it seemed he would settle for second place and not even try. But at times, i think it was with Grainger sponsorship, he was scary fast. And he showed in SRX he is still fast ! Another one that retired too soon imo
@marshalljimduncan ..I think most people have viewed him that way. If you have to ask that question it's obvious that you haven't followed his career anyway.
@@aldo-228 Well surely his fellow drivers and cup teams don't underrate him. He had opportunities to drive for the best teams in NASCAR and turned them down. Not to mention he's a Busch and Truck champion and at the time he moved to cup was with one of the best teams at that time. Not underrated there. He's won multiple times in every division. Some of his achievements in the sport are among the best. His accomplishments are not unnoticed. I can't understand how anyone could underrate him...Michael McDowell, Matt Dibenendetto, AJ Allmendinger, Chris Buescher, and Corey Lajoie are some examples of "underrated" drivers...
@marshalljimduncan ..yes they are underrated but not to the same degree..why?..because they don't have the same track record as Biffle. He's underrated because not a lot of people outside of long time NASCAR fans could even mention any of his accomplishments or pick him out of a crowd to ask him for an autograph. You and I know him. But I've been a fan since 1973 so I would suspect most other fans really couldn't even name anything that he's ever done and probably have barely heard his name if ever mention. That in it's self is underrated. You mention all of these accomplishments but how many other fans in all honesty could..not many fans could do the same. That's what makes him underrated..
Greg Biffle was bad ass. I remember him at Phoenix Raceway twice. I had seats watching home departing turn 1. Greg was more impressive than any other driver on that track than any other driver. Greg wasn’t the driver I tooted for at the time, but he could kill it at Phoenix.
Funny comments, being a former rouse employee, jack is an amazing engineer, but there was always a tense atmosphere around the main power players that were by jack for 30 years. Very little change over time.
That would have been an interesting timeline. JGR just signed Kyle Busch from Hendrick in 08, would have gotten Biffle to drive the 20 in 2009 with Denny Hamlin already on board. Joey stays in the Nationwide Series for another year and perhaps comes up a year later but in a 4th JGR car. Biffle definitely would have won a championship or two with JGR.
Greg would've been way more competitive if he would've jumped to JGR. Hell, by the 2010s he would've been more competitive at RCR.... The guy still has stuff left in the tank, happy he's having success outside of NASCAR
I always wonder why nobody picked him up after he left Roush. He's a damn good driver and very knowledgeable and could have helped out a b-class team immensely
Look at when Mark left Roush. He joins a mid-pack team and instantly running up front. Not only does it make you think, what is going on at Roush but the difference in the rules for Ford's and Chevrolet's.
I remember being at the 2013 Michigan race he won. I would watch certain cars lap after lap and his was one of them. His car was flying around that place. He truly drove the car to a win. Pit stops just kept him in the positions he would gain on the track. I knew half way through the race he was a contender for the win.
@@jasonsimpkins9069 I was at a Dover race he won early in his career. May have been in 2005. I’ve always liked going to the actual races because you can follow any car you wanted. You can see who is running harder and faster. You’re not dictated by the broadcast network. I would listen to MRN’s broadcast but you can watch whatever battles.
@@jerryhocutt9139 I actually ended up buying a scanner from radio shack. The race ready one. So much fun. Got so many autographs from Dover. Won tickets to a Busch race from the radio channel they had set up. Went to watch Jeff on QVC there. But the racing was always excellent. Really liked the trucks. Grotto pizza sucks! Lol
Greg got started in my home town of Portland Oregon and took only a couple years to dominate in the top class at Portland Speedway Because he learned how cars work and built his own cars that Did work,. Watching this made me understand why, as his knowledge is impressive to say the least. Shout out to Roger, his friend and companion car builder at he beginning..
I was at Portland speedway every Friday night! I came in at the end of Biffle's time but did see him several times after the races at the motorhome. My dad and his friends ran a few cars the in the late 90s and we won the racing series championship with Darren Shaw. Such good memories!! A shame that fool Armstrong changed it to a dirt track.
@@kristinmoore4624 Dirty little secret Kristin; Armstrong tried to get financed to repave the place after the Outlaw dirt show left but all the banks turned him down. That's when he left to run the Atlanta drag race park. Darren now lives in North Carolina.
Greg was a regional Winston West driver and raced our local track nearly every week. He had (has?) a lot of talent. Like Mark Martin… always the bridesmaid never the bride, so to speak.
I met Biffel in 99 at Livonia Michigan (that was where the Truck and Trans-Am teams were based out of at the time) they were doing some pit stop practice. He was a great guy, very easy going and pleasant to be around. Little did I know what kind of a super star he was to become!
Always liked Greg. He was a standup guy. Too good for Roush. He never took good care of his racers. He was good at putting guys under contract then not allowing them to race. Kept the money in his pocket, not in the cars
Love the you tube video better than the podcast because i can see the reaction n stuff. But love what u doing. Is so cool to learn of stuff that we wouldn't know if u didn't make this happen. So thank you
One thing youse all overlook is the key X factor , “loyalty” yes Greg could’ve been at least 1-2times nascar champ but that loyalty and never forgetting your blessings and those that have been by your side when you weren’t up and brought you up
I'm a Gordon and now Larson fan and that's one thing I think is great about Hendrick. I don't him or the team personally but he seems to hire people and let them do their jobs. That's what you hired them for. I did see some interviews with Mark saying rousch was a cheap team.
Something that doesn't get much attention is the Yates D3 cylinder head that came out in '04. The single most important factor to the Roush success. Ford was way down in power from the Chevy SB2 that was approved in '98, as Ford was still using the C3 from '91. The D3 was a game changer and if u were a fan at the time it was clear Ford had found a ton of power. So much so NASCAR panicked and made the 4 car team rule bc Roush took up half the playoff field in '05. The success likely would have continued for years had Toyota not joined, having no OHV engine they built one from the ground up. They built an engine so radical even after several rejections NASCAR knew it was light years ahead of the production based engines everyone was using. The solution was to they allow each manufacturer to design a new strictly racing engine from the ground up. This was a truly great era when NASCAR was the fasting growing sport in America.
Maybe Roush was a smart guy that knew how to build cars but not so good at business and letting other qualified people manage the organization. Brad may be able to bring some changes by implementing things he learned at Penske, but he's not a manager either.
The comments about Chad were really thought provoking. That was during a period where he was very competitive. Imagine Chad going to Roush back then??!!
Greg has morals. Really refreshing and encouraging. Old school loyalty. Amazing.
Nicole might argue with you on that one 🤣🤐
The old school loyalty probably cost him multiple wins and a championship. He was loyal to a fault. That's not a virtue.
Definitely did not live up to his potential, you are correct.
@@davelikesbacon You make it sound like he wasted his career. He had several opportunities at a championship and won quite a few races. That's more than allot of drivers had. Back during the bulk of Gregs career Roush was as good a team as there was in NASCAR.
@@hawki5120 no, I didn't make it sound like he wasted his career. I said that he was loyal to a fault and it cost him a better shot at a championship and more wins. Because that's basically what he said.
Need to get Carl Edwards on the show. That would make for some good conversation!
Carl Carl carl!
I would pay for that myself. I really miss cousin Carl.
Agreed. He got screwed out of that championship and I bet that's why he left the sport. Debris cautions? NASCAR lost a lot of credibility doing that years ago. I'd love to hear what Carl has to say about that if he's ready to talk.
I don’t think Carl wants media attention
@@zaymclovin4178 I definitely agree with that. That’s exactly why I would like to hear an interview with him in a setting like this. He is one of the drivers that I feel is closest to the fans regarding humility and honesty.
I’m the media is the only reason I see as to why he wouldn’t though, and I don’t blame him at all.
This popped up in my feed watching Biff helping with the hurricane relief. Always loved and respected his driving but he’s an even better man. The help he’s providing is unbelievable to people.
Greg really did a great job filling in a lot of details behind the decline of Roush Racing. Can’t wait to listen to the whole thing.
Yea I’m actually looking forward to this episode because he’s giving great insight on what went down at Roush.
It's such a great episode!
The driver selection worsened as well. Ragan was worse than Martin. Stenhouse was worse than Kenseth. Bayne was worse than Edwards. Newman was cooked. When Kenseth returned, that was purely for sentimentality, he was more cooked than Newman. They’re just now starting to turn things around with Buescher and Kez.
When the other team has every little component ,nut, washer on their car optimized to the nth degree with Finite Element Analysis , and they have a team of 3 engineers for each part of the driveline and suspension system .. it's time to go hunt
It's so nice to see Greg be honest about his experience at Roush. Saying that they didn't spend the money and technology to stay competitive l, and the contract offers he got, it really makes you think how elite Greg Biffle really could have been if he had switched teams.
Same for all of the Roush drivers.
At one point roush was better than HMS in the early 00s
@@fatpatlives1998 I wouldn't say better. It was a battle week in and week out.
@@fatpatlives1998 they just had better drivers. Mark Martin was an absolute stud.
@Thomas 🇺🇸 looking at the results their team has been pushing out, I think it's safe to say Roush is in far better hands now
I never realized that Greg is a great speaker and story teller
Biffle's loyalty cost him for sure. Mark Martin left and got into better equipment and won more races.
So did Matt and Carl
@@SlickBillByron24 n Burton too
No Mark left because he only wanted to run a part time schedule and Jack wouldn't let him do that. That is about the time they started going downhill though. Before that time you weren't leaving Roush for better equipment. They were at their peak in those years.
Martin won 5 races in 7 seasons after leaving Roush. Nothing really to brag about.
@@zt5547 True, but he also finished 2nd in points in 2009 at the age of 50 running a full-time schedule. That’s pretty remarkable.
I miss ole Greg Biffle. I occasionally watch race win compilations of his just to relive good memories. God, I miss him.
This comment has 16 likes. I'm gonna leave it as to honor The Biff!😉
@@Duhjr88 haha I see what you did there
Really cool to hear from Biffle. in 2005/2006 he was unstoppable, so were the other four Roush teams, and then it all went away.
So impressed with Greg and really appreciate this conversation as a learning experience.
I feel like I like Biffle 150% better after he stopped driving. I love his honesty and openness
Jamie Mac is a good example too. Leaves Roush in 09 and in 10 he wins 3 races including Daytona. Jamie said he always felt like he was being lied to at Roush. Never felt like home. Interesting
In 06 Jamie McMurray joining Roush was viewed as a super team in the making. Jamie McMurray was good driver, there's no reason he should have ran as bad as he did with Roush.
Burton has a career renaissance at Childress. Busch goes onto drive and win with Penske, Stewart, Ganassi, and 23XI. Martin has a title-contending year with Hendrick. Edwards and Kenseth both get more competitive cars with Gibbs. And of course, J-Mac has a career year in 2010. Biffle dug his own grave with the shovel Jack gave him.
In my home, we love good hard racing - dicey moves, pit strategy, tire strategy, take no prisoners.. and back in the day, we (especially my dad) really liked to watch Greg Biffle. He was a scrapper, seemed to be as tenacious as Ryan Newman when it came to getting around him for position (not like Pull Over & Wave'em By Mark Martin), and just ran his guts out on every lap. He didn't give excuses to TV or radio either. Mad respect. His loyalty to Jack Roush did cost him a Cup championship, but in a way I could understand it - you dance with one who got you to the party. To hear Greg talk so passionately in this interview still, years (almost a decade!) after the fact, shows to me it's something stuck in his crawl. Visions of Coulda Woulda Shoulda? 20/20 Hindsight?
With Brad Keselowski and the modern grasp on how technology of this sport evolves AND what to do about it, hopefully RFK will be able to overcome what I still consider a major deficiency in their arsenal ESPECIALLY with the NextGen POS cars.
Good interview DMP and DJD! Sure hope y'all're gonna be able to swing a pre- or post- college football season interview with Eli Gold, and my favorite MRN reporter (and HOF exec director) Winston Kelley, and longtime celebrity/fan Riki Rachtman sometime soon!
Yeah, he really was good at running his guts out every single lap… he used to just tap the right-rear of his car against the wall coming out of the corner and that was just how on-edge he would race lap after lap. I remember Benny Parsons would say that that was “just Greg’s racing style”. He was fun to watch.
RFK got the W!
Good to hear from Greg. One of my favorite drivers.
Extremely loyal! Extremely talented! Wish he would have left but its hes a man of his word and they dont make him like that
He’s right about the people thing. Get the right people in there and it would’ve been different. Letting Wally Brown go was the first crack along with some of the aero guys. Greg really is a great person to talk to. He was at Jack’s HoF ceremony, and we talked a good bit. Robbie should’ve been over the shop. And hiring some killers would’ve changed it all. Maybe Brad can get it back. I think he will.
One of the best and most informative interviews. Great work all!
I love when a guest just starts talking and Jr. senses that they’re going to spill alot, he knows to listen and let them say too much. Epic.
Not like Greg can get fired...... It's his experience to tell about and Jack can't do anything about it. I bet if Jack hears about it he might get made though.
Wow! Greg is really open and willing to talk... not to mention a really good speaker.. why isn't he in the booth announcing or a pit road reporter? That would be awesome!.. Proud to say he comes from my neck of the woods...
I just pray Brad K sees this and hires Greg as partner. LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Ward Burton suffered the same fate. Ward was loyal to Bill Davis, and was tossed aside at the end of 03 in favor of Scott Wimmer, who was just plain awful in Cup. Had Biff left when Carl and Matt did, maybe he could have a better ride. But instead, he remained and in a way fell victim to the charter system
Matt Kenseth left at the end of the 2012 season. Carl Edwards left after 2014
It goes to show you, don't have any allegiance to your employer. They will chop you off at the knees if there's two bits in it for you and leave you hanging out to dry. I've seen it time and time again
Greg Biffle was a local racer, everyone at Portland speedway was expecting big things from him. I met him several times, he was around mutual friends of my father's. We were so excited when he ran trucks and then cup cars.
Such a great conversation. Would have never guessed (my bad) that Greg was such a great communicator. This is one I could listen to for days.
That brought about a very interesting perspective. Some of it I already saw, yet areas like Jack Rousch wanting the crews to have a big say in the direction of that car.
I still have immense respect for Jack. He is very capable at so many different forms of motor sports that should amaze people when they only begin to hear of how much impact that he made in motor sports.
This is one of my favorite podcast
I never paid much attention to Greg during his career but he comes off as one of the more intelligent guests to appear on this show. I never disliked him just treated him as an afterthought. He seems like a cool guy. I’ll root for him when watching old races now lol
When Roush Racing was the top Ford team along with Robert Yates Racing, they were the top 5 championship standings every year. Biffle mentioned how much as a team struggle to catch their competition with advancing techs and engineering. Should he had left? Could be. Kenseth and Edwards left Roush for JGR and Roush won two more cup races in 2017 with Stenhouse. Penske and then SHR became the two top Ford teams, Roush was the third Ford team that continue to find its winning form. Hopefully with Keselowski taking part of the team's ownership, the team will turn it around eventually. Not this year but future down the road. Biff did came back and won Texas truck race with KBM Toyota. Biff still has the fire in him.
I absolutely love the respect these 2 have for one another the way they all learn from Biffle and the way Biffle respects Dale, I always admired Biffle's driving style and loyalty. We truly need to understand who is speaking here.
I didn’t think too much of Greg when he started driving but I have since heard from him now and Martin and Kenneth about some of the inner workings at Rousch. It is refreshing to hear all these different perspectives from the teams I watched rise and fall. To be honest, Greg was a much too talented driver to stay at Rousch as long as he did.
Mark Martin was Roush racing in my book
Johnny Benson and Allen Bestwick would be two good ones I'd love to see on the show
Great interview as always. Keep them coming! Please get more racers on the show like Ron Fellows, Derrike Cope, Dorsey Schroeder. Maybe another round of DW.
I need Jr to get Kenny Wallace on here.
This interview confirms my thoughts on what was happening at Roush. Was so sad to see Martin getting beat out of the pits and losing 2 to 6 positions every time he'd go in as Gordon's crew was doing 12 second pits. Could NOT understand why Roush chose not to answer such a huge game changing component. I guess he thought Mark could just race his way through all the cars each and every time he lost positions in the pits. You wear your car out eventually AND your drivers. Roush refused to move forward with all the technology like he was afraid of it or he thought he could beat it with experience. His stubbornness was the teams downfall. Biffle took the high road in this interview.
More than likely Roush thought that he could beat the tech with the old way of doing things, and while that worked for a good long while, eventually the tech just got too good and it all started crashing down
Kept Fennig and Reiser around way too long.
Mark has said in interviews and podcasts that Jack is known to be incredibly cheap. Which is why when Mark when to Hendrick he was so blown away at how Rick ran his team in comparison to Jack. For example while Mark was at RR he would have to help setup the car and even add things just because Jack didn't wanna pay for it. But at Hendrick he didn't have to do hardly anything at all because Hendrick could setup up the car perfectly and then finish tweaking it in practice to make it perfect. I also think that's where Mark learned about simulators and everything.
So with Brad buying a piece of the team and having ownership as well as being a driver Brad is having to try and bridge the gap in technology and practices that Jack refused to try. Which is why they are just now been able to run decent.
@@lordfatcock Oh yeah, Roush was very tight with the purse strings. Hendrick was willing to do what it took. Including being the first to bring in the big tech guys. That jacked up the price to play in a big hurry.
Nice to see Greg Biffle and here his story about his experience at Roush I have a piece of his Busch car my cousins husband a longtime ago took me on a tour at Roush’s race shop and gave me a souvenir of a big piece of Greg Biffle’s sheet metal on his wrecked car
Man it hurts to hear Greg Biffle say that he was loyal to the sponsors 3M and others is why he didn't wanna leave. Because if you remember in 2015 when Roush was running bad 3M dropped there full season sponsorship to join Jeff Gordon's retirement tour! An he had to find full funding for 2015. And then to watch Edwards and Kenseth have the best seasons of there careers and almost a championship. His loyalty was is Downfall!!
Awesome show, the Biff is awesome, it is fascinating hearing the deep dives into those glory years of the early-mid-2000s. The sport was on fire, Roush was a powerhouse, especially after the Yates engines partnership came in. Still remember Kurt running the Biff over in the All-star race in 04 or 05, when Kurt had the Yates engine and Greg the Roush, the power difference was amazing.
Super cool to learn some of the details of this sport. I was never a fan of NASCAR until seeing this show. I had no idea what made a team good or bad and what goes on behind the scenes. I also didn’t know how technical it is and interesting . Thanks for the awesome video/show🙂👍
Greg Biffle was one of my favorite drivers in the early-mid 2000's.
I remember talking to Mark Martin at Richmond in the first year of the radial tires, he said he and Roush were having trouble adjusting to them. Also talked to Mark at Bristol in the first year
of the Nascar issued ignition, and the first year of the Fuel Injection. They were way behind in the tech. involved. Jack was old school carb. and ignition guy, so they stayed behind the curve.
Jack crashed a couple airplanes and suffered some very serious injuries. Greg, Carl, Matt and Mark were all pilots and flew them selves to work regularly. Aviation bound them together, and nearly cost a couple of them everything a few times. I don't know if Jack's accidents affected his ability to lead his organisation but they sure didn't help.
Jack lost an eye at oshkosh.
THANK you. Biffle wasn’t at fault for the car, but at the same time, he kept signing multi-year deal after multi-year deal after multi-year deal. He contributed to his own demise. While Martin, Burton, Kenseth, Edwards, Busch, and McMurray all got out and experienced varying levels of further success, Biffle kept chaining himself to the basement radiator
I was a Roush fan big time, always wondered what happened but it was obvious that all the drivers were having trouble
Enjoyed hearing Biffle’s take. Would love to hear Carl Edwards also.
So much honesty here. It's a great listen and I think Greg being so loyal for so long probably shaved years off his Cup career as a result.
Greg biffle...the biff
I still remember when he won at homestead when Johnson lost championship by 8 pts. If Johnson could have passed him and won he would have 8 championships. But if he had won that first one then maybe it would have messed up his drive to win others. Never know but I remember not liking bif for a long time because of that one race. Lol
He was a great driver!
Ah I’m in the middle of the whole podcast! I can’t watch this and ruin it! The RUclips clips are great for reliving it.
I've been hoping for the Biff to be interviewed by Junior. This is going to be a good one, for sure! I hope that Junior will get Biff to tell his side of the story about Benny discovering him in the Northwest and his relationship with Benny Parsons.
Carl needs to be on the Dale Jr Download. Fans need this... Carl's voice needs to be heard... Miss you Biff.
Stick w/ the Biff ❤
@8:20 big reason for the need for this new car IMO. Imagine being the driver and trying to overcome being down 90 pounds of downforce. Good interview.
So you want IROC racing? NASCAR was more interesting when the teams and engineers played more a role in the speed of the car.
@@robertmueller1406 and it ran many teams into bankruptcy
@@robertmueller1406 agreed
This was REALLY REALLY good
Hope Greg comes back or Jack comes on to explain in more detail about this
I'd love to see Jack on here
what a great conversation. i was never a Biffle fan back then because it seemed he would settle for second place and not even try. But at times, i think it was with Grainger sponsorship, he was scary fast. And he showed in SRX he is still fast ! Another one that retired too soon imo
Unfortunately , hind sight is 20 20 . We the fans at the time, loved watchin all of ya mix it up. GOOD MEMORIES. 😎
i like to seeing meeting Bill E , on his time with Dale E SR and others too,
I wanna see Ragan on the show at some point!
A very underrated and under appreciated driver. He had a ton of talent and admittedly said he was afraid to make a change.
Who underrates him?
@marshalljimduncan ..I think most people have viewed him that way. If you have to ask that question it's obvious that you haven't followed his career anyway.
@@aldo-228 Well surely his fellow drivers and cup teams don't underrate him. He had opportunities to drive for the best teams in NASCAR and turned them down. Not to mention he's a Busch and Truck champion and at the time he moved to cup was with one of the best teams at that time. Not underrated there. He's won multiple times in every division. Some of his achievements in the sport are among the best. His accomplishments are not unnoticed. I can't understand how anyone could underrate him...Michael McDowell, Matt Dibenendetto, AJ Allmendinger, Chris Buescher, and Corey Lajoie are some examples of "underrated" drivers...
@marshalljimduncan ..yes they are underrated but not to the same degree..why?..because they don't have the same track record as Biffle. He's underrated because not a lot of people outside of long time NASCAR fans could even mention any of his accomplishments or pick him out of a crowd to ask him for an autograph. You and I know him. But I've been a fan since 1973 so I would suspect most other fans really couldn't even name anything that he's ever done and probably have barely heard his name if ever mention. That in it's self is underrated. You mention all of these accomplishments but how many other fans in all honesty could..not many fans could do the same. That's what makes him underrated..
@@aldo-228 PS, quit giving your own comments thumbs up, it's cringy...
If you’re a Greg Biffle fan gimme a hell yea ! 👍🏻
Hell yeah
Hell yea
Hell yeah!
Hell Yessssss!!
Not a hell yeah, but it’s ironic how some of my least favorite drivers in history drove for Roush… and I liked them more after they left.
Greg Biffle was bad ass. I remember him at Phoenix Raceway twice. I had seats watching home departing turn 1. Greg was more impressive than any other driver on that track than any other driver. Greg wasn’t the driver I tooted for at the time, but he could kill it at Phoenix.
Fascinating. Love Biffle and his stories. 👍👍
Funny comments, being a former rouse employee, jack is an amazing engineer, but there was always a tense atmosphere around the main power players that were by jack for 30 years. Very little change over time.
That would have been an interesting timeline. JGR just signed Kyle Busch from Hendrick in 08, would have gotten Biffle to drive the 20 in 2009 with Denny Hamlin already on board. Joey stays in the Nationwide Series for another year and perhaps comes up a year later but in a 4th JGR car. Biffle definitely would have won a championship or two with JGR.
Great to get the real, first person stories, instead of just letting the bullsh*t from the media sh*t talkers, be the recorded history of racing.
I miss watching him battle Jimmy Johnson. Great racing
Greg would've been way more competitive if he would've jumped to JGR. Hell, by the 2010s he would've been more competitive at RCR.... The guy still has stuff left in the tank, happy he's having success outside of NASCAR
I always wonder why nobody picked him up after he left Roush. He's a damn good driver and very knowledgeable and could have helped out a b-class team immensely
I really missed dale jr when he left, now we got him back. I know I am late to the race but I just wanted to say that
Words don’t convey how important such things are to have on the record. It changes how the sport as a whole is viewed.
Always liked Greg, great racer. Got to meet him too, nice fellow. Would have been interesting to see what would have happened had he made a move.
It's pretty cool to hear and see Greg Biffle talk about the inside stuff
Look at when Mark left Roush. He joins a mid-pack team and instantly running up front.
Not only does it make you think, what is going on at Roush but the difference in the rules for Ford's and Chevrolet's.
Good insight into Roush. Interview could only be better if Boris Said walked into the studio! 😂😂😂
I remember being at the 2013 Michigan race he won. I would watch certain cars lap after lap and his was one of them. His car was flying around that place. He truly drove the car to a win. Pit stops just kept him in the positions he would gain on the track. I knew half way through the race he was a contender for the win.
I think the same at Dover. His car would be flying. Stuck to the track
@@jasonsimpkins9069 I was at a Dover race he won early in his career. May have been in 2005. I’ve always liked going to the actual races because you can follow any car you wanted. You can see who is running harder and faster. You’re not dictated by the broadcast network. I would listen to MRN’s broadcast but you can watch whatever battles.
@@jerryhocutt9139 I actually ended up buying a scanner from radio shack. The race ready one. So much fun. Got so many autographs from Dover. Won tickets to a Busch race from the radio channel they had set up. Went to watch Jeff on QVC there. But the racing was always excellent. Really liked the trucks. Grotto pizza sucks! Lol
Greg got started in my home town of Portland Oregon and took only a couple years to dominate in the top class at Portland Speedway Because he learned how cars work and built his own cars that Did work,.
Watching this made me understand why, as his knowledge is impressive to say the least.
Shout out to Roger, his friend and companion car builder at he beginning..
Riots a hundred days in a row? Move!!
@@sludge8506 No way, It gets me free target practice every day if I feel like it.
@@richknudsen5781 👍👍👍👍👍👍
I was at Portland speedway every Friday night! I came in at the end of Biffle's time but did see him several times after the races at the motorhome. My dad and his friends ran a few cars the in the late 90s and we won the racing series championship with Darren Shaw. Such good memories!! A shame that fool Armstrong changed it to a dirt track.
@@kristinmoore4624 Dirty little secret Kristin; Armstrong tried to get financed to repave the place after the Outlaw dirt show left but all the banks turned him down. That's when he left to run the Atlanta drag race park. Darren now lives in North Carolina.
Excellent interview!
Greg was a regional Winston West driver and raced our local track nearly every week. He had (has?) a lot of talent. Like Mark Martin… always the bridesmaid never the bride, so to speak.
I met Biffel in 99 at Livonia Michigan (that was where the Truck and Trans-Am teams were based out of at the time) they were doing some pit stop practice. He was a great guy, very easy going and pleasant to be around. Little did I know what kind of a super star he was to become!
Always liked Greg. He was a standup guy. Too good for Roush. He never took good care of his racers. He was good at putting guys under contract then not allowing them to race. Kept the money in his pocket, not in the cars
What a great driver . The Biff ran hard every lap.
love these videos so cool to get inside the driver's heads and learn what it takes to compete.
As of fan of NASCAR for over 30 years the way Greg just explained all this I just got an education in being educated
The Biff in the truck series could do some real damage. Come back Greg and finish your storied career in a truck/xfinity car. ❤
wonderful episode....
Yes get Carl on the show.
Love the you tube video better than the podcast because i can see the reaction n stuff. But love what u doing. Is so cool to learn of stuff that we wouldn't know if u didn't make this happen. So thank you
awesome conversation
One thing youse all overlook is the key X factor , “loyalty” yes Greg could’ve been at least 1-2times nascar champ but that loyalty and never forgetting your blessings and those that have been by your side when you weren’t up and brought you up
Hopefully Brad K can give the team the boost it needs..
Fascinating interview
Greg was SO CLOSE in 05 to win the title. He was on point that year.
Ran into Greg once super nice and polite gentleman. I hate he stop racing nascar full time.
Love to see Carl Edwards on the show one day.
That was a GREAT episode
Learned alot
I'm a Gordon and now Larson fan and that's one thing I think is great about Hendrick. I don't him or the team personally but he seems to hire people and let them do their jobs. That's what you hired them for. I did see some interviews with Mark saying rousch was a cheap team.
What an awesome perspective. Love it.
would love to see Kenseth on the show!
Do not miss the biff. Brad K is bring the Roush boys back to life. Congrats to Chris Buescher!!
Great interview. Would luv to hear Jack Roush on here.
Something that doesn't get much attention is the Yates D3 cylinder head that came out in '04. The single most important factor to the Roush success. Ford was way down in power from the Chevy SB2 that was approved in '98, as Ford was still using the C3 from '91. The D3 was a game changer and if u were a fan at the time it was clear Ford had found a ton of power. So much so NASCAR panicked and made the 4 car team rule bc Roush took up half the playoff field in '05. The success likely would have continued for years had Toyota not joined, having no OHV engine they built one from the ground up. They built an engine so radical even after several rejections NASCAR knew it was light years ahead of the production based engines everyone was using. The solution was to they allow each manufacturer to design a new strictly racing engine from the ground up. This was a truly great era when NASCAR was the fasting growing sport in America.
The "Biff" sure had fast cars back in the day -National guard / Subway - sponsor Era damn good driver.
Martin should have won a cup at some point in his career with Roush
Maybe Roush was a smart guy that knew how to build cars but not so good at business and letting other qualified people manage the organization. Brad may be able to bring some changes by implementing things he learned at Penske, but he's not a manager either.
The comments about Chad were really thought provoking. That was during a period where he was very competitive. Imagine Chad going to Roush back then??!!