Ebert & Siegel debate Magnolia

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  • Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2024

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  • @RudieObias
    @RudieObias 7 месяцев назад +6

    Magnolia is a masterpiece!

  • @orangesplurt9273
    @orangesplurt9273 3 года назад +46

    1:45 lol ebert’s look to the camera says it all.

  • @matthewpaul6904
    @matthewpaul6904 2 года назад +21

    He's thinking "Gene would've liked it"

  • @Keeno1
    @Keeno1 4 года назад +35

    It would have been interesting to have known Gene's take on this masterpiece.

    • @lewis123646
      @lewis123646 4 года назад +1

      I KNOW! I forgot he'd passed by 99 so when the camera panned to NOT Gene, my heart sank. The only good temp host @ the time was Wesley Morris who was writing at the Boston Globe.

    • @Enigmalake
      @Enigmalake Год назад

      He didn’t really like boogie nights so who knows

    • @JoeBuck207
      @JoeBuck207 8 месяцев назад +1

      It's a crap movie tries too hard and becomes a what is the point of this movie ?

  • @michaelcoy311
    @michaelcoy311 4 года назад +32

    Anderson stated at the time, on Charlie Rose, that the ending was his first idea. You don’t have to like it, but it wasn’t a matter of incompetence.

    • @user-yl4lf9mh1w
      @user-yl4lf9mh1w 3 года назад +4

      He also wanted Kermit the frog to sing rainbow connection with all the characters... glad he went with his second idea.

    • @ZacharyWeaver-rc8xc
      @ZacharyWeaver-rc8xc 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@user-yl4lf9mh1wI’d have been okay with that honestly

    • @user-yl4lf9mh1w
      @user-yl4lf9mh1w 6 месяцев назад

      @@ZacharyWeaver-rc8xcif anyone could pull it off, he could.

  • @papigringo5692
    @papigringo5692 3 года назад +18

    Magnolia's in my all-time Top Five. I adore that movie.

  • @veldinjoeable
    @veldinjoeable 6 месяцев назад +14

    I get what Ebert is saying, if the movie had a conventional climax, it would’ve defeated the whole theme of the movie.

    • @daytripperhd
      @daytripperhd 4 месяца назад

      all these people in the film are connected. i think even ebert missed that. but agree with ebert its a great film

    • @RobMyself
      @RobMyself 2 месяца назад

      I can't believe a critic would not like that movie. It's amazing to me.

  • @CannibalWHORE22
    @CannibalWHORE22 4 года назад +16

    Everyone saying that Siegel is wrong just reminds that PTA is the man!

  • @Nominay
    @Nominay 3 года назад +8

    How can anyone not watch frogs falling from the sky? Especially the one that circumvented Philip Baker Hall from killing himself? This was the best part of the movie!!

  • @joesnider880
    @joesnider880 Год назад +4

    Ebert was on point with this one. He got the point of the movie and knows he's right

  • @razbigranicu
    @razbigranicu 5 лет назад +22

    I concede that the movie has some third act problems, but so much of the movie is so astonishing that I can overlook those problems.

    • @65g4
      @65g4 4 года назад +3

      I agree that the third act has problems but there was a lot to like about this film. Boogie Nights is still my favourite Paul Thomas Anderson film

    • @Andrew-bc4pt
      @Andrew-bc4pt 7 месяцев назад +1

      Absolutely love the third act. You can’t control your past, dont let the past control your present, dont try to predict the future.
      The weather forecast is an attempt that humans make to feel in charge of nature when sometimes acts of god will happen. The end is great

  • @valentinwurth3306
    @valentinwurth3306 Год назад +5

    Siegel makes some good points but it also seems like he didn't really take into account the whole "unlikely events"-theme when he said "it doesn't have anything to do with anything"

  • @michiganjfrog366
    @michiganjfrog366 2 года назад +4

    it's just his opinion. and we all know what opinions are like... we all have them and they usually stink

  • @uyeda
    @uyeda 9 лет назад +19

    Didn't Joyce also gave negative review for that film as well?

    • @razbigranicu
      @razbigranicu 7 лет назад +3

      she did

    • @sha11235
      @sha11235 6 лет назад +18

      Yes, and both of them were wrong. This was great.

    • @zacharysiple783
      @zacharysiple783 6 лет назад +2

      Agreed. One of the very best movies I have ever seen!

    • @uyeda
      @uyeda 3 года назад

      @@zacharysiple783 Well Tom Cruise was also in 1999 Stanley Kubrick final film Eyes Wide Shut. The same year he did that film.

    • @jameswilliams-zr8co
      @jameswilliams-zr8co 7 месяцев назад

      1999 was the year for new unique flicks, american beauty, three kings, magnolia, eyes wide shut.. those flicks took film making and story telling to a new level

  • @ralphus44
    @ralphus44 3 года назад +6

    Come on, Joel Siegel. You were a great critic but you blew this one big time.

  • @jaym8257
    @jaym8257 2 месяца назад +1

    Siegel didn't get the symbolism. I did.

  • @jhjhjhjhjhjhify
    @jhjhjhjhjhjhify 3 года назад +2

    Some people still think this about Magnolia today. Heck, even PTA says he'd edit it down if he were making it if he could do it again. Thankfully he's not gone the George Lucas route on this film.
    I think they're wrong personally. Films need to earn their length and Magnolia does it. My favourite film.

    • @johng6565
      @johng6565 Год назад +2

      Agreed! I was a little sad when PTA made that statement. There isn't a second I would want taken out of this film. I watched it at a time when my life was in turmoil and it really broke through all that for me.
      I don't know, maybe one has to experience real trauma to appreciate it.
      "Some times these things happen", a line that will always stay with me

  • @madsleonardholvik3040
    @madsleonardholvik3040 Год назад +3

    Magnolia is one of the best movies I've seen. I think it's for people who can identify with the movie or who are deep thinkers and like that a movie has a clear message.

  • @neonpitchforks
    @neonpitchforks 2 года назад +2

    I agree the singing scene was very cringe.
    Other than that. Amazing movie. I could have watched more

    • @jamk2668
      @jamk2668 2 года назад +2

      That's the thing. It's an incredibly bold choice that actually works when you view it from a specific angle. And even if it doesn't fully work for some at that particular moment, the boldness by itself manages to make it transcend any potential cringe.

  • @user-yl4lf9mh1w
    @user-yl4lf9mh1w 2 года назад +4

    Siegel who???

    • @JoeBuck207
      @JoeBuck207 8 месяцев назад

      He was famous in NYC and he was in Good morning America.

  • @Weplay2players
    @Weplay2players 3 года назад +1

    Sigeal was better than roeper but not Siskel

  • @Levelistchampion
    @Levelistchampion 2 года назад +4

    I love the pushback on Magnolia. Defenders always talk about how the lack of interconnectivity (and the opening and closing scenes) are making a point. Ok, sure, I get that, but it's not a very GOOD one. Chekhov's Gun isn't a rule, more of a guideline for creating meaningful scenes, but Magnolia goes completely against the grain, making it overstuffed and overblown.

    • @Andrew-bc4pt
      @Andrew-bc4pt 7 месяцев назад

      Nope

    • @Levelistchampion
      @Levelistchampion 6 месяцев назад

      ​@Andrew-bc4pt Magnolia came up at least three times on the show in that reviewing season, and all three times, the guest hosts passionately disagreed with Ebert. Three different people, people Ebert considered qualified enough to guest host, disliked that movie.

    • @Chiggs
      @Chiggs 4 месяца назад

      And the singing scene is terrible.

  • @siobhan5486
    @siobhan5486 22 дня назад

    Ebert is so based

  • @kubrickking5101
    @kubrickking5101 Год назад +3

    Ebert wins the argument, in my opinion.

  • @nathansouthern3226
    @nathansouthern3226 3 года назад

    Love Joel here.

  • @Speedy28Gonzales
    @Speedy28Gonzales 4 месяца назад

    Unpopular opinion but I couldn't get into magnolia.

  • @TwelveEighteen8946
    @TwelveEighteen8946 2 месяца назад

    Naw Boogie Nights was better

  • @dinastiachowfan1401
    @dinastiachowfan1401 5 лет назад +1

    WOW, this guy didn't like Magnolia... But no, Roger. Yhere is no way Magnolia is better than Bougie Nights.

    • @RudieObias
      @RudieObias 7 месяцев назад +2

      Nope, Magnolia IS better than Boogie Nights. I really love both, but I give the edge to Magnolia.

  • @Tastybathwater1
    @Tastybathwater1 6 лет назад +7

    I agree with Siegal