I mean Kathleen can fuck right off but I think Rey killing chewie would have been such an interesting character moment, the guilt could play into her struggle to allow more friends to be hurt at the final confrontation with *the senate*
I agree that that situation should’ve held more weight. But I think I understand why they did it. Because giving into the dark side has consequences, and actually killing Chewie would haunt Rey for the rest of her life, also a thematic parallel to Kylo killing Han, her friends would fear(possibly hate her) for it, the resistance would be skeptical of her, and ultimately it would make Rey more willing to consider Palpatine’s offer. I think they didn’t do this because it would’ve led to a bittersweet ending instead of a happy optimistic one. Because ultimately Jedi should inspire hope and virtue.
Some context & explanation for those less fluent in Star Wars lore... _However,_ this explanation is based upon the old-EU (Legends), thus technically *NOT* Canon, and so should be taken with a grain of salt. ;) 1. *Force Lightning* (in-general) *~* Force Lightning is *NOT* a formally trained skill, it is a manifestation the Force-user's negative (Dark) emotions (fear, hatred, lust, rage, etc.) given form through the Dark Side of the Force; one does _NOT_ need to be Sith to wield Force Lightning. _"Technically"_ (note _"quotations")_ any Force-user (Jedi, Sith, even those un-trained but Force-active) can potentially project Force Lightning if they are strong enough in The Force (which obviously Rey is) and gives into equally strong negative (Dark) emotions. Just as any Force-user (Light &/or Dark) can Force Choke someone if the Force-user gives into their Dark Side. 2. *Force Lightning* (with training) *~* That being said, it does not mean the Force-user cannot also benefit from training. The Sith train those strong enough to use Force Lightning to be able to wield it more easily, more efficiently, and more effectively. Like how someone with a _"natural talent"_ for physical combat benefits more from martial arts training (best example(s): Ip Man and Bruce Lee); and of course, through actual field combat experience. Unfortunately, Force Lightning training generally involves (& results in) becoming a _remorseless killer._ Rather obviously, the Jedi do not teach/train Force Lightning. The counter-balance being that training Force Lightning as a skill is not limited to the Sith either; some (old-EU) examples include the Nightsisters/Witches of Dathomir, or various Dark Jedi, or the Order of Revan (who taught both Light and Dark techniques). 3. *Rey & Force Lightning ~* In this particular scene's case, Rey is feeling a maelstrom of negative (Dark) emotions: *Fear* of losing/failing Chewbacca, her *Hatred* of Kylo Ren, and *Rage* in contesting Kylo Ren over control of the transport. So because of this, Rey lashes out too _'Forcefully'_ (pun intended) in trying to "grab" the transport away from Kylo Ren, with tragic results (Chewbacca may not have been in that transport, but a whole lot of other people probably were, even if they were First Order personnel). Thanks for uploading this, *Scene Maker.* :)
@@pendrake40 I mainly say it because in my opinion the movie wasnt as bad as people said it was. Its edgy to hate SW now. But I loved this scene, good to know the context you placed, truly.
@@johannguchte7537 I dont mind it, marvel movies change everything, so does DC, literally every movie adapts something else. I see star wars no different.
She's constantly fighting between the two sides of the force (light & dark). It would make sense that she was able to use the dark side, due to the amount of anger she was expressing. I personally think it adds more to her character because of this. Edit: Scene was outstanding however!
@@AlasdairGR Seeing as she's a Palpatine it makes sense that she's able to use it and since she was never trained to control her emotions with what was happening she lost her temper
Androidbirds , I’m sorry that makes no sense, you don’t gain the powers of your parents, you might have a higher affinity for them, but you still need to fucking train
gavr'iel yes... idky you’re being sarcastic, that’s a complex DARK SIDE ability, she is neither complex (she hasn’t had any training) nor follows the dark side.
I had the most weird sensation the second i saw the lightening the cinema ghasped and i out shouted WTF while being gutwrenched until he appeared again and it was a waste of a climax
It would've been a great storytelling move but unfortunately too many people would complain, the same people who complained about Luke not turning into a fucking super Saiyan and 1v100 the entire first order.
Still an absolutely garbage movie no matter how you look at it and I say this with a hundred percent sincerity as my heart brakes Disney Killed Star Wars.
@@fatseip9562 starwars been sucked though lmao. The acting has always been ok, the storylines have been alright. They're not ground breaking. At least the new films have better acting and effects.
@@sasastisas Because Chewbacca originally died from a moon being crushed on him. Not from a girl who somehow managed to conjure up force lighting out of nowhere.
@@androidbirds9956 Being related to a powerful character does not mean you will accomplish their abilities out of nowhere. Luke took many years to form his power over time. Even though he was the son of Darth Vader, Luke did not conjure up force lightning when fighting his father.
@@androidbirds9956 Vador could not use force lightning because of his cybernetics. If he did not lose the fight to Obi-Wan on Mustafar, I can guarantee you that Vader would have had the ability to use force lightning
@@androidbirds9956 Darth Vader's suit (and artificial limbs) was the biggest inhibitor of his abilities to use the force. Which is why he was unable to defeat the Emporer until the last moment.
"The Force is a perception of the reality that exists around us. You have to come to learn it. It’s not something you just get. It takes many, many years…Anyone who studied and worked hard could learn it." - George Lucas
@@aaronhiggins986 well there is a force lightning version that is used by jedi though it is forbidden cause its too powerful and it could lead to the dark side the only jedi i know who can do it is master plo koon and the ability is called "force judgement"
Luke only used force choke once. Also rey doesn't use it again because it took a lot of power and for most of the movie she thought she had killed chewie. She knew it was dangerous so she didn't want to use it again
This scene was so stupid on yeah all of a sudden you can just do force lighting even George should have been like what the fuck that's not how it works kennedy
What a waste of potencial character development for a character who has had none. Chewie should have died making Rey finally fail, finally have some consequences and get a chance to be a real character instead of space jesus
@@garyharry7 why. He did nothing the entire trilogy. He shoild have died with han to have more an impact. This was last chance to do something n they did nothinh instead
Force lightning is a very powerful force ability that only the most talented people can manifest, Rey being the granddaughter of the most powerful force user ever explains her talent. But the thing is that it is a manifestation of the dark side inside a user, even though you can train and control it, you don't need to for the power to manifest. It does so here because Rey starts feeling veey frustrated and angry at Kylo for always getting in her way, and for trying to snatch the ship in which her friend and rebel allies were in, thats why she lost control of her emotions and powers, shooting force lightning.
@@kritikill7779 doesn't have to be yellow. Luke used green force lightning numerous times. There are different colours. But if we're going By true electric judgement then yeah I guess.
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This would of been a crazy moment if chewy actually dies
I mean Kathleen can fuck right off but I think Rey killing chewie would have been such an interesting character moment, the guilt could play into her struggle to allow more friends to be hurt at the final confrontation with *the senate*
I agree that that situation should’ve held more weight. But I think I understand why they did it. Because giving into the dark side has consequences, and actually killing Chewie would haunt Rey for the rest of her life, also a thematic parallel to Kylo killing Han, her friends would fear(possibly hate her) for it, the resistance would be skeptical of her, and ultimately it would make Rey more willing to consider Palpatine’s offer. I think they didn’t do this because it would’ve led to a bittersweet ending instead of a happy optimistic one. Because ultimately Jedi should inspire hope and virtue.
it would have fueled the internal conflict rey has been struggling with even more
@@Benepene exactly
They couldnt killm him, the fan base would lose it. They'd still get mad if he did or didnt die. They're hard to please.
I can’t imagine what went through rens head when he saw lightning
hes probaly SCARED FOREVER
He’s like, I’ve been in the dark side for years and I never shot a lightning but this girl can?!
I don’t think he was surprised. If I remember correctly, he said he pushed her intentionally in order for her to see for herself that she’s a sith
I don’t think he was surprised. If I remember correctly, he said he pushed her intentionally in order for her to see for herself that she’s a sith
@@yokgor4675 haha
She should’ve said “unlimited power”
ah yes, 66 likes, I aint ruining it
Kylo: o_0
Rey: CHEWIE!!!!!!
Finn: *MEOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
Comment stolen but It's funny :p
Some context & explanation for those less fluent in Star Wars lore... _However,_ this explanation is based upon the old-EU (Legends), thus technically *NOT* Canon, and so should be taken with a grain of salt. ;)
1. *Force Lightning* (in-general) *~* Force Lightning is *NOT* a formally trained skill, it is a manifestation the Force-user's negative (Dark) emotions (fear, hatred, lust, rage, etc.) given form through the Dark Side of the Force; one does _NOT_ need to be Sith to wield Force Lightning. _"Technically"_ (note _"quotations")_ any Force-user (Jedi, Sith, even those un-trained but Force-active) can potentially project Force Lightning if they are strong enough in The Force (which obviously Rey is) and gives into equally strong negative (Dark) emotions. Just as any Force-user (Light &/or Dark) can Force Choke someone if the Force-user gives into their Dark Side.
2. *Force Lightning* (with training) *~* That being said, it does not mean the Force-user cannot also benefit from training. The Sith train those strong enough to use Force Lightning to be able to wield it more easily, more efficiently, and more effectively. Like how someone with a _"natural talent"_ for physical combat benefits more from martial arts training (best example(s): Ip Man and Bruce Lee); and of course, through actual field combat experience. Unfortunately, Force Lightning training generally involves (& results in) becoming a _remorseless killer._ Rather obviously, the Jedi do not teach/train Force Lightning. The counter-balance being that training Force Lightning as a skill is not limited to the Sith either; some (old-EU) examples include the Nightsisters/Witches of Dathomir, or various Dark Jedi, or the Order of Revan (who taught both Light and Dark techniques).
3. *Rey & Force Lightning ~* In this particular scene's case, Rey is feeling a maelstrom of negative (Dark) emotions: *Fear* of losing/failing Chewbacca, her *Hatred* of Kylo Ren, and *Rage* in contesting Kylo Ren over control of the transport. So because of this, Rey lashes out too _'Forcefully'_ (pun intended) in trying to "grab" the transport away from Kylo Ren, with tragic results (Chewbacca may not have been in that transport, but a whole lot of other people probably were, even if they were First Order personnel).
Thanks for uploading this, *Scene Maker.* :)
It actually makes me appreciate the scene more, thanks.
@@bgcm1995 ~ _"There is no Ignorance, there is Knowledge."_ :)
@@pendrake40 I mainly say it because in my opinion the movie wasnt as bad as people said it was. Its edgy to hate SW now. But I loved this scene, good to know the context you placed, truly.
*_Nah, it absolutely was a trained skill in the old continuity. They just changed it._*
@@johannguchte7537 I dont mind it, marvel movies change everything, so does DC, literally every movie adapts something else. I see star wars no different.
Wonder what the Lego version of this scene will be like.
This scene is simply amazing. Gorgeously shot, terrific acting, great music and it really adds to Rey's character.
xD
It completely detracts from her character. And it makes no sense why she suddenly is able to use force lightning.
@@AlasdairGR aaaand there's that guy
She's constantly fighting between the two sides of the force (light & dark). It would make sense that she was able to use the dark side, due to the amount of anger she was expressing. I personally think it adds more to her character because of this.
Edit: Scene was outstanding however!
@@AlasdairGR Seeing as she's a Palpatine it makes sense that she's able to use it and since she was never trained to control her emotions with what was happening she lost her temper
I love how Finn looks like his favorite sport team just lose XD
Wow. Of course she knows how to use one of the most complicated dark side abilities. Why not.
How is it complicated? She very clearly didn't use it on purpose
Laz Locks that’s the point, the fact that she did it by accident makes it even worse.
Androidbirds , I’m sorry that makes no sense, you don’t gain the powers of your parents, you might have a higher affinity for them, but you still need to fucking train
wow she made lightning shoot out of her fingers...how nuanced and complex of her.
gavr'iel yes... idky you’re being sarcastic, that’s a complex DARK SIDE ability, she is neither complex (she hasn’t had any training) nor follows the dark side.
I had the most weird sensation the second i saw the lightening the cinema ghasped and i out shouted WTF while being gutwrenched until he appeared again and it was a waste of a climax
It would've been a great storytelling move but unfortunately too many people would complain, the same people who complained about Luke not turning into a fucking super Saiyan and 1v100 the entire first order.
Cant please everyone
Still an absolutely garbage movie no matter how you look at it and I say this with a hundred percent sincerity as my heart brakes Disney Killed Star Wars.
@@fatseip9562 Oh shut the fuck up you whiney bastard. You can't kill a franchise as big as star wars just because "fans" don't like some movies.
@@fatseip9562 starwars been sucked though lmao. The acting has always been ok, the storylines have been alright. They're not ground breaking. At least the new films have better acting and effects.
And yet still a fully powered Emperor Palpatine just disables shit.
Well, you know what they say, "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree."
She should've shouted "Crispy!" instead.
Actually she should have said or yelled: GET OVER HERE!!!
That would be a bit annoying
@@scenemaker7884 It'd be hilarious.
She shouldhave shouted *POWER, UNLIMITED POWER!* to then compose and wonder what came over herself.
LOL!
Look! i can see their parachutes, they're ok
Me in the cinemas: saying every curse word in the English language
Wow her anger is so great it made the lightning almost into a straight up beam!
It's so fun how Kylo was shocked. Like " I didn't signed for this"
This is the point where I started to hate the movie. I was about to stand up and yell when they played this scene.
Why?
@@sasastisas Because Chewbacca originally died from a moon being crushed on him. Not from a girl who somehow managed to conjure up force lighting out of nowhere.
@@androidbirds9956 Being related to a powerful character does not mean you will accomplish their abilities out of nowhere. Luke took many years to form his power over time. Even though he was the son of Darth Vader, Luke did not conjure up force lightning when fighting his father.
@@androidbirds9956 Vador could not use force lightning because of his cybernetics. If he did not lose the fight to Obi-Wan on Mustafar, I can guarantee you that Vader would have had the ability to use force lightning
@@androidbirds9956 Darth Vader's suit (and artificial limbs) was the biggest inhibitor of his abilities to use the force. Which is why he was unable to defeat the Emporer until the last moment.
Now that was a “didn’t’t actually die” death scene
Kylo was freaked the fuck out
Ren's reaction was the best.
"The Force is a perception of the reality that exists around us. You have to come to learn it. It’s not something you just get. It takes many, many years…Anyone who studied and worked hard could learn it." - George Lucas
She only uses it once
Well duh it’s a dark side power. Using the dark side of the force is giving into your hate and anger which is what the Jedi stood against
@@aaronhiggins986 well there is a force lightning version that is used by jedi though it is forbidden cause its too powerful and it could lead to the dark side the only jedi i know who can do it is master plo koon and the ability is called "force judgement"
Luke only used force choke once. Also rey doesn't use it again because it took a lot of power and for most of the movie she thought she had killed chewie. She knew it was dangerous so she didn't want to use it again
Choke isn't really a dark side power tho. Anakin used it many times . Choke doesn't need dark side training . Lightning does
@@darkgamesnl8124 True
The way Kylo moves back tho 😂😂
Hella star killer vibes from this scene bro, you know what fuck it the whole movie was a female star killer
"CRISPY!"
This scene was so stupid on yeah all of a sudden you can just do force lighting even George should have been like what the fuck that's not how it works kennedy
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CHEWIE
What a waste of potencial character development for a character who has had none. Chewie should have died making Rey finally fail, finally have some consequences and get a chance to be a real character instead of space jesus
If that actually happened assholes like you would be complaining about the sequels killing off the original characters
Space jesus🤣
You can't kill off Chewie
@@garyharry7 why. He did nothing the entire trilogy. He shoild have died with han to have more an impact. This was last chance to do something n they did nothinh instead
@@bscan4215 Why would i complain when i literally just explained why i would want to see it? And how am i an asshole?
I can't help but to laugh at the way she screams chewie.
Wait. If she exploded ship, why others who were electrocuted before didn't blow up or burn instantly?
@@androidbirds9956 mb
Burnt dog..
E W EII! NOh!
So how was Raven able to shoot lightening?
Cuz she's broken
@@TechXV7 so, if that's how it works, is Dooku also a blood relative of Palpatine?
Force lightning is a very powerful force ability that only the most talented people can manifest, Rey being the granddaughter of the most powerful force user ever explains her talent. But the thing is that it is a manifestation of the dark side inside a user, even though you can train and control it, you don't need to for the power to manifest. It does so here because Rey starts feeling veey frustrated and angry at Kylo for always getting in her way, and for trying to snatch the ship in which her friend and rebel allies were in, thats why she lost control of her emotions and powers, shooting force lightning.
He used the light side and the dark side
No one is going to point out the they said Raven instead of Rey
Unlimited Mary Sue-ness....
@@androidbirds9956 yees
So she used electric judgement meh
electric judgement is yellow, so no, just regular ol' force lightning
@@kritikill7779 doesn't have to be yellow.
Luke used green force lightning numerous times. There are different colours.
But if we're going By true electric judgement then yeah I guess.
@@trollzynisaacjohan1793 i indeed meant the inferior electric judgement yes
Electric Judgement is no longer canon.
@@titaniumcassowary so? We were still discussing what was known about it
Total crap movie.