This channel should be mandatory viewing for anyone in the EV truck industry; charge point operators, owner/operators and of course the OEMs. It’s filled with insights, very fair and balanced commentary showing/explaining the good and bad.
@@Travlinmo We are taking notes, very much like the cameras safety at night is paramount, theft of cords is evidence with camera as deterrent. Charge park lot layout is priority to these guys and gals. Further more, as markgarnett3521 has stated, anyone in this emerging field sector must pay attention to this ambassador who is spearheading the industry- thank-you Tobias for taking the initiative to get and relay the tips!
when you put the cable back into the charger, it should make contact, and the charger should be able to do diagnostics on the cable... identify failed water cooling, etc...
Yes. Teslas chargers does that And they get fixed if theres an issue Uptime of 99,7% is insanely good Best thing is; they Are way cheaper than other brands.. so Tesla will solve the charging issue starting at semi intoduction
Absolutely. For one, when a charger doesn't charge vehicles when the ones around it do, that should be a red flag. The camera is also a big plus, if somebody pulls up, and can't charge.
I am currently in Netherlands. Would love to meet you somewhere. This much of information about electric trucks is always welcome. Best channel amongst all.
I agree. I give the guy a ton of credit for showing the feasibility of this technology. While it is possible, I think this also shows the infrastructure is no where near prime time. Plus it seems the whole day is planned around charging which does not come with current diesel offerings. If there are more ev trucks coming, the infastructure doesn’t seem able to keep up yet. But I give this guy a ton of credit for showing us his struggles and successes with EV.
Thanks very much for the english version of your channel. I'm in New Zealand and I am not a truck driver but I enjoy watching your channel and seeing the electric progression. I did think hydrogen my be the preferred fuel for trucks but it seems that battery electric is the preferred way and with your compulsory stops running electric is no inconvenience. I'm also pleased to see the German govt subsidising the price difference to get more companies to buy electric.
Hydrogen would be fine if 98% of it wasn't made by reforming methane (with the carbon dioxide being released to atmosphere), with this being the case its a bit pointless to use Hydrogen from what i've read it takes 5x the energy to make Hydrogen compared to using the electricity direct !
Good morning my German 🇩🇪 friend from my diesel DAF lol 😂 I really enjoy your videos 👍🏻 At least you’re showing the doubters that electric trucks can work 🤩 Keep the good work up buddy cheers Stevie 🏴
Love how honest you are about everything!!! So, you'll probably get in political trouble at some point ;) That's TOO FUNNY! All that battery density under your feet and you can't get a few milliamps for your phone!
I really enjoy watching your channel. I’m a truck driver in the US and find your content fascinating. My personal pickup truck is a Ford F150 Lightning. I’ve had it about 6 months and love it! I can’t imagine driving a gas truck again. I would love to drive an electric semi truck but unfortunately we just don’t have many options here and definitely not the infrastructure to charge semi trucks yet.
Thanks for your work on the channel. I very much enjoy your content each week. At about 16:34 you mention Type 2 43kW charging using 63A cables, and whether they were available. The original 22kW Renault ZOE could charge at 43kW, so you could get a cable from one of those for use with the truck. They are out there. Renault probably expected high power charging to remain AC, assuming that batteries would be small indefinitely. As it happens, DC rapid charging quickly appeared and high power AC charging was largely superseded, at least for cars.
AFAIK most, if not all 43 kW Type 2 EVSE were equipped with tethered cables instead of using driver supplied cables. Like the Electric Trucker, I never saw a 43 kW Type 2 outlet, requiring a driver supplied cable, before. However the existence of this EVSE suggests 63 A cables must be available somewhere.
It is nice to see that even a smaller battery truck can do longer distances. If there are enough chargers. Nice to see a comparison between the 2 vehicles. In the US there needs to be a lot more done to make charging stations workable for Semi's. I look forward to what i learn from you next week
I doubt long haul EV trucking will happen in the USA any time soon. There is way too much variability in pickup and drop-off locations.. and as a result very random routes people take. BUT... over 70% of trucking is short haul.. under 500 miles. That probably will happen... especially trucking that starts and ends at a company depot.. Like the Pepsi Tesla Semis.. perfect for that use. Also.. if a company has regular routes.. even long haul.. they could install chargers along that route to make it work.
Next time you stop. Could you speak with some of the other truckers on what their companies are doing with regards BEV trucks? I noted Chiggiato trucks in the background and looked them up. They are using refrigerators so that adds a level of complexity. It would be interesting to get their take on trucks. Great show as usual.
Prices in Europe are so low compared to the UK, my local fast charger is £0.85 / kWh €1.01... We don't have electric trucks yet where I work but I do drive a 2020 Kona EV.
Wow, that is insane, and people still believe EV are going to be cheaper. In Germany, the petrol price per litre is around 0.60€ before tax (and it only costs 0.006€ to produce that litre, --- yes half a cent!). That is 0.06€ per kWh, or 0.15€ per kWh with 40% efficiency. That means EV is never going to be cheaper than ICE unless your electricity costs less than 0.15€.
@@nameberry220 The issue isn't the cost of electric power itself or from the grid, but what it costs at the charger. There no real regulation on those chargers to set a limit and not much competition, so the market doesn't function properly.
@@damianm-nordhorn116 UK issue is all the expansion of chargers is funded by investment groups. Who all want a fast return on their investment. So that is keeping prices high. Even Tesla have started to rise some of their prices at sites with more competition..
Spoke two days ago with a trucker about electric, he was neutral about it, but had nothing knowledge. Companies need to train electric driving and technics to their truckers.
I live in UK. I work at a company with 4 distributions centers all over UK. At our DC work around 50 drives, there are only two drivers that have EVs, me and another one. The transport manager asked us to write a report for the company, describe our experience with the EVs and write anything we know about electric lorries. I think company wants to try electric trucks and wants to know if there are drivers that know how to use them.
6:09 These are intelligent equipment. Its a simple 5 day project to pull logs, correlated errors and at minimum generate say an sms or email to support to do necessary step to bring them online. I work in banking and for one of the banks I was working with, had developed a simple script that read logs of all ATMs every one hour. Generated a list of ATMs with error code. Off all the error code 5 were where the ATM had to be remote rebooted. My second script would pick a file with ATMs references of these 5 error code and perform the remove reboot. This would bring 80% of the down ATMs online within an hour. The two scripts took me 4 hours to write, 20 hrs test and 10 hrs production release test support. Basically for me it was done in 4 hrs, the test team took care of the rest. This can be done with these large EV chargers.
Always love your videos, almost like the Bjorn of Big Rigs. I'm not a truck driver myself but find it fascinating and very glad you do these videos. Love to see you drive a truck that has the MCS charging standard on board at some point as well and to test a MCS charger just in comparison to CCS.
You need to get yourself a few hefty battery power banks with a few USB and other charging ports on them to keep driver's battery devices backed up and a few LED flashlights with USB charging ports too. Suggest to your management to toss them into all your company's EV trucks for those occasional sad rainy days. Maybe get some business cards promoting/identifying your RUclips channel and hand them out to those people who give you a good turn to help encourage their extra fine behaviors.
Great video.. love how you share your experiences.. good and bad. Love the Volvo... I drove a VNL for a couple years... Air ride on the steer axle.. had a Super 10 transmission.. Great turning radius, quite too. They know how to make a truck nice for the driver.
I was once on hold for 35 minutes to report a problem. Gave up since no one picked up the phone. Never doing that again. There should be a 30 second wait time, and if I'm the first to report an issue, I should be paid money for the tip.
Compared to US roads, the trade is for shoulder space. It looks like vehicles that break down must pull all the way off the road. In practice, I wonder if they actually do, or if more commonly the rear of the vehicle stays poking out into the road. That's a separate danger of this road configuration.
Usually, you can report an issue on the CPO's app, but my experience of doing this...at least with the main CPO in Ireland is that they always reply saying something along the lines of "the problem was with your car"
I always have a power bank with me when I get in the truck. It happened to have a problem with the electrics on a lorry and had no way to charge my phone. I learned my lesson.
As you say, it can be easier for resolving problems with chargers. Adding a reset button on the unit and automating running diagnostics every night or when no-one is using the unit would resolve most issues I'd think.
Here in Czechia, charge station operator PRE (Pražská energetika) accepts tickets over email. I wrote them twice and both times they responded within a day. Once they restarted the station remotely, once they dispatched an engineer to fix it onsite.
Funny story about the Volvo wiring in your electric truck also in Volvos construction equipment they use thinner wire also to save money. That’s pretty sad cutting corners.
Instead of a website, simply have a button on the charger to report an issue. Maybe the charger could do a self-test / reset automatically at the same time.
Could you do an "ASRM" or POV driving of the electric trucks? like all steps not just highway driving, RUclips is seriously lacking these types of videos on electric trucks, want to hear the electric motors working and stuff.
The reason that charger refill stations have so many chargers is because most the chargers are low wattage. If all chargers were 350KW you would not need so many chargers.
about the 1 USB port problem, doesn't it have 12V socket as well somewhere? If it does, you could buy a splitter with 2 or 3 USB ports and use ut this way.
Thanks for showing that electric trucks are quite feasible, and a driver would have to intentionally oppose their use out of ignorance or laziness. Also, great videos.
They are feasible in certain circumstances. Look at the loads he's carrying and the routes he's running. They are lightweight loads. Primarily agricultural products like trees. If you started hauling steel, or taking longer routes outside of Germany, they become a much less effective option. I'm not saying they won't get there, and I'm not saying they don't have their use cases. But it's not a panacea to replace the ICE trucking world in Europe, never mind in the US where it's a totally different situation.
9:05 grrr … phones need to come with swappable batteries so that it isn’t such a pain to either always be charging or replace when the battery gets old.
24:00 Volvo could petition and invest, to build that overhead charging on busy routes. I am really rooting for that one. Reduce battery capacity is very important to manage cost of the over all truck unit.
It would be very great if Tobias can get some insights from his contacts at Charging companies to understand why so many chargers do not work despite all the remote software options that are available now to automatically check a charger and reboot it automatically if stuck. It is just the hardware and if so, why? This is not high voltage.and industry has been using such systems for ages. So why?
How much could Volvo have saved om the internat wireing. I think many would have paid the extra cost if Volvo offered the quicker charging. I think for many vehicles that a quick charge is even more important on those with smaller batteries. Yet the industry offers slow charging on those vehicles. I think they want to sell the more expensive vehicles as they make more money. But that is less sustainable as more resources are tied up in each vehicle. For trucks that does not matter really as they are used so much of the time but for cars that often stand still more than 90% of all time it makes a big difference.
So trucks don't have 12v accessory port? I have not experience with Trucks hence the question. But would assume if they have, a 12v accessory adapter is hardly a dollar.
Yes that one. Online its a dollar. But yes that is a good buy. I never load any system USB for charging on my car, why to move that power through a digital equipment. 12v accessory is right option to charge devices.
I think Volvo did slower charging not just because of cost but for reliability too. It costs charge speed, but if you do not have cable cooling, cable cooling cant break! :D This is engineering dilemma about adding stuff on top of stuff: your stuff breaks more often! To not break so often costs can be astronomical so simpler is better in lots of cases. They probably met with some weight, dimensional, or financial walls to implement that internal cabling for the truck and jus derated the current down. :) it wasnt probably in design plans at first
Our company had an 18 ton rigid Volvo on trial. Range was 110 miles empty and 70 miles fully loaded. About as useful as a chocolate exhaust pipe. Needless to say it was sent back after 2 days.
I'm not really a fan of the Photoshopped thumbnail ... I would have much preferred some kind of icon, like a traffic sign with a charging icon with a line through it or something. But the current thumbnail is very misleading
It won't be too long before they will have solid state batteries giving twice the range & half the charging time. Diesel and petrol engines have served us well up to now but their days are coming to an end, you can't stop progress.
Charging speeds won't double anytime soon. The demand charges alone for this type of power delivery are so substantial It's not solvable unless they are going to be enormous government subsidies (not a great idea) or the power mix in Germany starts to change which will take decades. Or the power mix in Germany starts to change which will take decades.
Revolutionizing new battery tech is always "just a few years" away, and yet the batteries we have today is barely better than what we already knew how to build twenty years ago. Sure there are improvements made, but they are not really revolutionary. And I suggest you don't hold your breath for "the next big thing" to happen within a decade. Development of "new" battery tech is not something that happens quickly. There are no low hanging fruit left.
@@blahorgaslisk7763 I suggest you google ' solid state batteries ' you'll be surprised just how close they are, they are already going into production and the first vehicles with them in will be coming of the production lines by the end of the year and solid state will be in most if not all EVs by the end of the decade. Twice the range, half the charging time and cheaper.
One of the reasons I prefere to have a battery in the trailer instead of in the semi. That way, if the battery broke down, or the software isn't correct, at least you can still drive.
You seem to spend more time charging the batteries than loading or unloading the trailer. Too much time spent worrying about finding a charging station. Your brain is working overtime on things a diesel engine truck driver takes for granted. Fill up before leaving the depot, drive for 3 days picking up and dropping off then fill up again when you get back to depot. Less worry. Less time lost finding a charger. More reliable than electric, and more time doing what you should be doing. WORKING!
At a charging rate of ~€0.35 per KWH or less the sheer cost of diesel fuel post tax is a greater burden per KM than electricity. If the charging rates in your country are much higher than that, it’s uneconomical.
These trucks would be uneconomical as in uk the cost of electricity is the highest in the world 0.89 per kwh = 1.01 èuro kwh plus there are not a lot of big electric chargers . In the uk lots of public chargers don't work . What a nightmare having to worry about where there is chargers and if I could get in or park up how truck drivers and companies can make my scania 770s v8 I fill up my double tanks and just deliver or pick up loadsno nightmare if my truck can fit into charging station and at uk prices I seen one charging station price was 0.98 pence per kwh so expensive
Just addressing one bit of misinformation from your video, in case you're just repeating what you saw elsewhere assuming it is true. Modern electric vehicles are not "first generation products". Electric vehicles have been produced and sold alongside ICE cars for the last 150 years, and indeed were up until the 1890's the most common form of motor vehicle. They've just never been competitive and still would not be if not for the extreme levels of government subsidisation and such. Indeed there's been no increase in performance in EVs since the 1990's when Li-ion battery vehicles started to be released to the public (essentially marginal increases in performance got offset by increases in weight due to safety regs and the like. The only thing that has changed since the 90's is more "generous" range forecasts.)
That government subsidies for the oil industry, I presume, that are still being provided to this day and account for a few billions yearly worldwide. Not to mention the carbon taxes these governments seemingly don’t want to legislate.
@@elinys2843 In terms of net, the no government subsidises the oil industry. The claim that the oil industry receives net subsidisation comes from manufacturing non-existent fees that the authors of the report feel that the oil industry as a nebulous whole should be paying and then claiming that these fees not existing is government subsidisation. It is not correct, or even valid logic.
@@elinys2843 In the USA alone, I believe that, the oil, gas and coal industries and companies get subsidies that reaches roughly 20 billion dollars. I think that is an absurd level and amount of money to and for a industry/branches that most certainly do not need subsidies at all. We all really need planning and build up and out charging infrastructure that is leveled and aimed at all kinds of transportation, all kind of infrastructure. We must push for cohesive planning and mapping of our charging infrastructure by preferably cooperation via boards of industry or by governmental agency of transportation or strategy. This so we can avoid mishaps and white patches/charging deserts for so called "economic reasons" if we leave charging infrastructure planning to single and one eyed corporations (companies), that lack overview and lack strategic analysis of the whole transportation system. How can we work to make charging better for all?
W,T,F, Just come across this site about E,V trucks. Just listening and watching this blog makes me want to scream with laughter !!!! How much time is wasted thinking about The range you will get if you are empty or loaded !!! I am completely lost for words about this Madness for Net Zero Emissions !!!! I've got to stop now before I go insane about how Ridiculous this whole E,V, stupidity is !!!!
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You have such a positive attitude its is infectious, thank you.
This channel should be mandatory viewing for anyone in the EV truck industry; charge point operators, owner/operators and of course the OEMs. It’s filled with insights, very fair and balanced commentary showing/explaining the good and bad.
I really hope someone is watching from truck and charging companies.
@@Travlinmo We are taking notes, very much like the cameras safety at night is paramount, theft of cords is evidence with camera as deterrent. Charge park lot layout is priority to these guys and gals. Further more, as markgarnett3521 has stated, anyone in this emerging field sector must pay attention to this ambassador who is spearheading the industry- thank-you Tobias for taking the initiative to get and relay the tips!
Chargers should be able to perform a self test and report themselves automatically or even reboot themselves when an issue is discovered.
They probably do, but bugs still happen.
when you put the cable back into the charger, it should make contact, and the charger should be able to do diagnostics on the cable... identify failed water cooling, etc...
Yes. Teslas chargers does that
And they get fixed if theres an issue
Uptime of 99,7% is insanely good
Best thing is; they Are way cheaper than other brands.. so Tesla will solve the charging issue starting at semi intoduction
This is a fantastic idea!
Absolutely. For one, when a charger doesn't charge vehicles when the ones around it do, that should be a red flag. The camera is also a big plus, if somebody pulls up, and can't charge.
I am currently in Netherlands. Would love to meet you somewhere. This much of information about electric trucks is always welcome. Best channel amongst all.
It's always a pleasure to watch your videos. You have a fantastic attitude to life's challenges. Thank you.
I agree. I give the guy a ton of credit for showing the feasibility of this technology. While it is possible, I think this also shows the infrastructure is no where near prime time. Plus it seems the whole day is planned around charging which does not come with current diesel offerings. If there are more ev trucks coming, the infastructure doesn’t seem able to keep up yet.
But I give this guy a ton of credit for showing us his struggles and successes with EV.
Thanks very much for the english version of your channel. I'm in New Zealand and I am not a truck driver but I enjoy watching your channel and seeing the electric progression. I did think hydrogen my be the preferred fuel for trucks but it seems that battery electric is the preferred way and with your compulsory stops running electric is no inconvenience. I'm also pleased to see the German govt subsidising the price difference to get more companies to buy electric.
Hydrogen would be fine if 98% of it wasn't made by reforming methane (with the carbon dioxide being released to atmosphere), with this being the case its a bit pointless to use Hydrogen from what i've read it takes 5x the energy to make Hydrogen compared to using the electricity direct !
Good morning my German 🇩🇪 friend from my diesel DAF lol 😂 I really enjoy your videos 👍🏻 At least you’re showing the doubters that electric trucks can work 🤩 Keep the good work up buddy cheers Stevie 🏴
Love your video’s. I work at the assembly factory of volvo in ghent. Interesting to see the volvo in the wild!
Would be very interesting to know what was wrong with the Iveco, don’t leave us hanging 😂
The clue is in the maker's name.
@ if you are like this I feel sympathy for the people who have to deal with you on a daily basis
Thanks for your experience reports. You are a great ambassador for Germany and all EV enthusiasts.
@@mikeprzyrembel It truly has shown itself to be a pile of crap all the way through
Love how honest you are about everything!!! So, you'll probably get in political trouble at some point ;) That's TOO FUNNY! All that battery density under your feet and you can't get a few milliamps for your phone!
I really enjoy watching your channel. I’m a truck driver in the US and find your content fascinating. My personal pickup truck is a Ford F150 Lightning. I’ve had it about 6 months and love it! I can’t imagine driving a gas truck again. I would love to drive an electric semi truck but unfortunately we just don’t have many options here and definitely not the infrastructure to charge semi trucks yet.
Thanks for your work on the channel. I very much enjoy your content each week.
At about 16:34 you mention Type 2 43kW charging using 63A cables, and whether they were available. The original 22kW Renault ZOE could charge at 43kW, so you could get a cable from one of those for use with the truck. They are out there.
Renault probably expected high power charging to remain AC, assuming that batteries would be small indefinitely. As it happens, DC rapid charging quickly appeared and high power AC charging was largely superseded, at least for cars.
AFAIK most, if not all 43 kW Type 2 EVSE were equipped with tethered cables instead of using driver supplied cables. Like the Electric Trucker, I never saw a 43 kW Type 2 outlet, requiring a driver supplied cable, before. However the existence of this EVSE suggests 63 A cables must be available somewhere.
@georgepelton5645 Ah, that's a good point. Yes, sorry
It is nice to see that even a smaller battery truck can do longer distances. If there are enough chargers. Nice to see a comparison between the 2 vehicles. In the US there needs to be a lot more done to make charging stations workable for Semi's. I look forward to what i learn from you next week
I doubt long haul EV trucking will happen in the USA any time soon. There is way too much variability in pickup and drop-off locations.. and as a result very random routes people take. BUT... over 70% of trucking is short haul.. under 500 miles. That probably will happen... especially trucking that starts and ends at a company depot.. Like the Pepsi Tesla Semis.. perfect for that use.
Also.. if a company has regular routes.. even long haul.. they could install chargers along that route to make it work.
Next time you stop. Could you speak with some of the other truckers on what their companies are doing with regards BEV trucks? I noted Chiggiato trucks in the background and looked them up. They are using refrigerators so that adds a level of complexity. It would be interesting to get their take on trucks. Great show as usual.
Prices in Europe are so low compared to the UK, my local fast charger is £0.85 / kWh €1.01... We don't have electric trucks yet where I work but I do drive a 2020 Kona EV.
Wow, that is insane, and people still believe EV are going to be cheaper. In Germany, the petrol price per litre is around 0.60€ before tax (and it only costs 0.006€ to produce that litre, --- yes half a cent!). That is 0.06€ per kWh, or 0.15€ per kWh with 40% efficiency. That means EV is never going to be cheaper than ICE unless your electricity costs less than 0.15€.
Petrol price in Germany tonight: €1.76/litre so.
@nameberry220 but all oil have to be imported, and electricity is mostly produced on site.
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The issue isn't the cost of electric power itself or from the grid, but what it costs at the charger.
There no real regulation on those chargers to set a limit and not much competition, so the market doesn't function properly.
@@damianm-nordhorn116 UK issue is all the expansion of chargers is funded by investment groups. Who all want a fast return on their investment. So that is keeping prices high. Even Tesla have started to rise some of their prices at sites with more competition..
Spoke two days ago with a trucker about electric, he was neutral about it, but had nothing knowledge. Companies need to train electric driving and technics to their truckers.
I live in UK. I work at a company with 4 distributions centers all over UK. At our DC work around 50 drives, there are only two drivers that have EVs, me and another one. The transport manager asked us to write a report for the company, describe our experience with the EVs and write anything we know about electric lorries. I think company wants to try electric trucks and wants to know if there are drivers that know how to use them.
6:09 These are intelligent equipment. Its a simple 5 day project to pull logs, correlated errors and at minimum generate say an sms or email to support to do necessary step to bring them online. I work in banking and for one of the banks I was working with, had developed a simple script that read logs of all ATMs every one hour. Generated a list of ATMs with error code. Off all the error code 5 were where the ATM had to be remote rebooted. My second script would pick a file with ATMs references of these 5 error code and perform the remove reboot. This would bring 80% of the down ATMs online within an hour. The two scripts took me 4 hours to write, 20 hrs test and 10 hrs production release test support. Basically for me it was done in 4 hrs, the test team took care of the rest.
This can be done with these large EV chargers.
Wonderful learning experience with a lesser range truck.
Always love your videos, almost like the Bjorn of Big Rigs. I'm not a truck driver myself but find it fascinating and very glad you do these videos. Love to see you drive a truck that has the MCS charging standard on board at some point as well and to test a MCS charger just in comparison to CCS.
You need to get yourself a few hefty battery power banks with a few USB and other charging ports on them to keep driver's battery devices backed up and a few LED flashlights with USB charging ports too. Suggest to your management to toss them into all your company's EV trucks for those occasional sad rainy days. Maybe get some business cards promoting/identifying your RUclips channel and hand them out to those people who give you a good turn to help encourage their extra fine behaviors.
Hey, I know the last charging station! I've been using it on our way through Germany from Switzerland :) Finally a place I recognize :)
Great video.. love how you share your experiences.. good and bad.
Love the Volvo... I drove a VNL for a couple years... Air ride on the steer axle.. had a Super 10 transmission.. Great turning radius, quite too. They know how to make a truck nice for the driver.
I was once on hold for 35 minutes to report a problem. Gave up since no one picked up the phone. Never doing that again.
There should be a 30 second wait time, and if I'm the first to report an issue, I should be paid money for the tip.
using the phone to talk to someone is a bit old hat. What about a reporting app?
great video!
2:00 I like it that there is space in the middle of so.e Dutch roads...it improves safety
Compared to US roads, the trade is for shoulder space. It looks like vehicles that break down must pull all the way off the road. In practice, I wonder if they actually do, or if more commonly the rear of the vehicle stays poking out into the road. That's a separate danger of this road configuration.
Maybe Battery imbalance on 1 of the packs > 3%?
I love your videos. I am getting an EV Mack 26ft box truck next week. First in Florida, USA.
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Usually, you can report an issue on the CPO's app, but my experience of doing this...at least with the main CPO in Ireland is that they always reply saying something along the lines of "the problem was with your car"
I always have a power bank with me when I get in the truck. It happened to have a problem with the electrics on a lorry and had no way to charge my phone. I learned my lesson.
The most problematic part of most EV’s is the 12V controller battery (usually a lead acid battery)…
As you say, it can be easier for resolving problems with chargers.
Adding a reset button on the unit and automating running diagnostics every night or when no-one is using the unit would resolve most issues I'd think.
Here in Czechia, charge station operator PRE (Pražská energetika) accepts tickets over email. I wrote them twice and both times they responded within a day. Once they restarted the station remotely, once they dispatched an engineer to fix it onsite.
Of course there must be more USB sockets. Like by the bed, or above the windscreen in some storage.
Funny story about the Volvo wiring in your electric truck also in Volvos construction equipment they use thinner wire also to save money. That’s pretty sad cutting corners.
Instead of a website, simply have a button on the charger to report an issue.
Maybe the charger could do a self-test / reset automatically at the same time.
Could you do an "ASRM" or POV driving of the electric trucks? like all steps not just highway driving, RUclips is seriously lacking these types of videos on electric trucks, want to hear the electric motors working and stuff.
Thank you for your Inspiration
Hope the Volvo Design Engineers watch this; yep you put one USB port into an electric truck costing $250K+ 😊
The reason that charger refill stations have so many chargers is because most the chargers are low wattage. If all chargers were 350KW you would not need so many chargers.
about the 1 USB port problem, doesn't it have 12V socket as well somewhere? If it does, you could buy a splitter with 2 or 3 USB ports and use ut this way.
ah, crap, I wrote it while watching and just as I sent it you bought one in a shop :D that'll teach me to watch till the end before posting!
You need to buy yourself a small battery bank to charge your phone in emergencies.
Volvo and Scania are renowned for reliable trucks!
They WERE. My 2023 Scania G410 CNG is a piece of shi...
You should try an Edison Motors electric truck from Canada. They don't have to stop and charge so you have almost unlimited range!
Thanks for showing that electric trucks are quite feasible, and a driver would have to intentionally oppose their use out of ignorance or laziness. Also, great videos.
They are feasible in certain circumstances. Look at the loads he's carrying and the routes he's running. They are lightweight loads. Primarily agricultural products like trees. If you started hauling steel, or taking longer routes outside of Germany, they become a much less effective option.
I'm not saying they won't get there, and I'm not saying they don't have their use cases. But it's not a panacea to replace the ICE trucking world in Europe, never mind in the US where it's a totally different situation.
@@otm646 Thank you, very valid points. I hope I get to see changes in my lifetime.
9:05 grrr … phones need to come with swappable batteries so that it isn’t such a pain to either always be charging or replace when the battery gets old.
they do come, a lot of them, check out the fairphone.
24:00 Volvo could petition and invest, to build that overhead charging on busy routes. I am really rooting for that one. Reduce battery capacity is very important to manage cost of the over all truck unit.
All changers should be 350KW everywhere
The steering really seems to be pulling to the right in the volvo
Most electric cars with electric steering have a way to align the wheel. It's just out of alignment
Great information. Thank you. I would disagree with use of the thumbnail and video title though.
the Volvo we received don't display the navigation ...what kind of wizardry is that ?
because: SLAMMED. 😎28:22
17:00 WOW you get your charging far cheeper than we do in the UK. We are paying between 69 and 79 pence per KWH, so about double what you are paying.
The UK isn't known as 'Treasure Island' for nothing.
Shell recharge near me is £0.89p / kWh 🤢
Italians and electricity don't go hand in hand 😂
is wireless mobile charging in truks a thing? in cars you can usually put it in some central tray to charge wirelessly
16:30 I believe some Renaults can actually charge that fast AC, not sure if Renaults also got semi's.
It would be very great if Tobias can get some insights from his contacts at Charging companies to understand why so many chargers do not work despite all the remote software options that are available now to automatically check a charger and reboot it automatically if stuck. It is just the hardware and if so, why? This is not high voltage.and industry has been using such systems for ages. So why?
does the usb port have a separate fuse?
or maybe it can only provide 500mAh which is too low for some phones
How much could Volvo have saved om the internat wireing.
I think many would have paid the extra cost if Volvo offered the quicker charging.
I think for many vehicles that a quick charge is even more important on those with smaller batteries. Yet the industry offers slow charging on those vehicles. I think they want to sell the more expensive vehicles as they make more money.
But that is less sustainable as more resources are tied up in each vehicle. For trucks that does not matter really as they are used so much of the time but for cars that often stand still more than 90% of all time it makes a big difference.
So trucks don't have 12v accessory port? I have not experience with Trucks hence the question. But would assume if they have, a 12v accessory adapter is hardly a dollar.
Yes that one. Online its a dollar. But yes that is a good buy. I never load any system USB for charging on my car, why to move that power through a digital equipment. 12v accessory is right option to charge devices.
I think Volvo did slower charging not just because of cost but for reliability too. It costs charge speed, but if you do not have cable cooling, cable cooling cant break! :D This is engineering dilemma about adding stuff on top of stuff: your stuff breaks more often! To not break so often costs can be astronomical so simpler is better in lots of cases. They probably met with some weight, dimensional, or financial walls to implement that internal cabling for the truck and jus derated the current down. :) it wasnt probably in design plans at first
This is idea that you have to register is sooooooo stupid. When I go to a gas station you don't need to do that.
Why do both of the trucks from your yard I have seen both have misaligned steering, and misaligned with the steering wheel to the right too?
The Volvo only have one USB charging port! That's baaad what the hell were they thinking
Was that an electric Flixbus?
Thank you for the video.
It's normal for Iveco trucks to break down.
What is the actual payload of the truck ? Can’t seem to find any mention of that in the comments
24t if i remember correctly from the german vods
@ OK Thank you for that 👍
Hi, I would suggest getting a small power bank for your phone.
Ok.I watched 29 minutes. When did it break?
Our company had an 18 ton rigid Volvo on trial.
Range was 110 miles empty and 70 miles fully loaded.
About as useful as a chocolate exhaust pipe.
Needless to say it was sent back after 2 days.
If the weightlimit in Germany not 40 ton.?
42t for E-Trucks
Good now drive the EV scania insted ;)
The fake thumbnail might attract electric vehicle haters.
Maybe that's the point.
@@erik....but also contradicts the idea that we are only seeing a rose coloured view
Its not fake, truck actually broke.
what about electric vehicle realists?
Let the haters come, they'll learn how wrong/ misguided they've been until now.
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noting weird about an iveco breaking and plus its electic
I'm not really a fan of the Photoshopped thumbnail
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I would have much preferred some kind of icon, like a traffic sign with a charging icon with a line through it or something.
But the current thumbnail is very misleading
Highway robbery €20 for a usb plug 🤮🤮🤮 you don't even get a cord with it‽ I'm guess if you wanted a cord it would cost €15😢
It won't be too long before they will have solid state batteries giving twice the range & half the charging time. Diesel and petrol engines have served us well up to now but their days are coming to an end, you can't stop progress.
Charging speeds won't double anytime soon. The demand charges alone for this type of power delivery are so substantial It's not solvable unless they are going to be enormous government subsidies (not a great idea) or the power mix in Germany starts to change which will take decades. Or the power mix in Germany starts to change which will take decades.
Revolutionizing new battery tech is always "just a few years" away, and yet the batteries we have today is barely better than what we already knew how to build twenty years ago. Sure there are improvements made, but they are not really revolutionary. And I suggest you don't hold your breath for "the next big thing" to happen within a decade. Development of "new" battery tech is not something that happens quickly. There are no low hanging fruit left.
@@blahorgaslisk7763 I suggest you google ' solid state batteries ' you'll be surprised just how close they are, they are already going into production and the first vehicles with them in will be coming of the production lines by the end of the year and solid state will be in most if not all EVs by the end of the decade. Twice the range, half the charging time and cheaper.
You're deludional. They're about as good as they're gonna get.
Solid state batteries aren't coming any time soon
One of the reasons I prefere to have a battery in the trailer instead of in the semi.
That way, if the battery broke down, or the software isn't correct, at least you can still drive.
awesome content, but i need to lower the speed to 0.75 to not getting my heartrate up
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The negative clickbait doesn't exactly want to make me share this video with others.
I should not fail PERIOD. This is bad bad sign.
Every machine fails
First
Well done.
You seem to spend more time charging the batteries than loading or unloading the trailer. Too much time spent worrying about finding a charging station. Your brain is working overtime on things a diesel engine truck driver takes for granted. Fill up before leaving the depot, drive for 3 days picking up and dropping off then fill up again when you get back to depot. Less worry. Less time lost finding a charger. More reliable than electric, and more time doing what you should be doing. WORKING!
At a charging rate of ~€0.35 per KWH or less the sheer cost of diesel fuel post tax is a greater burden per KM than electricity. If the charging rates in your country are much higher than that, it’s uneconomical.
Diesel will be taxed to hell and electricity won't.
These trucks would be uneconomical as in uk the cost of electricity is the highest in the world 0.89 per kwh = 1.01 èuro kwh plus there are not a lot of big electric chargers . In the uk lots of public chargers don't work . What a nightmare having to worry about where there is chargers and if I could get in or park up how truck drivers and companies can make my scania 770s v8 I fill up my double tanks and just deliver or pick up loadsno nightmare if my truck can fit into charging station and at uk prices I seen one charging station price was 0.98 pence per kwh so expensive
Just addressing one bit of misinformation from your video, in case you're just repeating what you saw elsewhere assuming it is true. Modern electric vehicles are not "first generation products". Electric vehicles have been produced and sold alongside ICE cars for the last 150 years, and indeed were up until the 1890's the most common form of motor vehicle. They've just never been competitive and still would not be if not for the extreme levels of government subsidisation and such. Indeed there's been no increase in performance in EVs since the 1990's when Li-ion battery vehicles started to be released to the public (essentially marginal increases in performance got offset by increases in weight due to safety regs and the like. The only thing that has changed since the 90's is more "generous" range forecasts.)
That government subsidies for the oil industry, I presume, that are still being provided to this day and account for a few billions yearly worldwide. Not to mention the carbon taxes these governments seemingly don’t want to legislate.
@@elinys2843 In terms of net, the no government subsidises the oil industry. The claim that the oil industry receives net subsidisation comes from manufacturing non-existent fees that the authors of the report feel that the oil industry as a nebulous whole should be paying and then claiming that these fees not existing is government subsidisation.
It is not correct, or even valid logic.
@@elinys2843 In the USA alone, I believe that, the oil, gas and coal industries and companies get subsidies that reaches roughly 20 billion dollars.
I think that is an absurd level and amount of money to and for a industry/branches that most certainly do not need subsidies at all.
We all really need planning and build up and out charging infrastructure that is leveled and aimed at all kinds of transportation, all kind of infrastructure. We must push for cohesive planning and mapping of our charging infrastructure by preferably cooperation via boards of industry or by governmental agency of transportation or strategy. This so we can avoid mishaps and white patches/charging deserts for so called "economic reasons" if we leave charging infrastructure planning to single and one eyed corporations (companies), that lack overview and lack strategic analysis of the whole transportation system.
How can we work to make charging better for all?
Grab a diesel truck bro.
Switch your house to diesel bro, diesel for liiiiiife
Use a diesel toothbrush bro.
I am afraid you missed the point.
Surprised ?
Glorified milk float 😂
You comment this on every video bro
W,T,F, Just come across this site about E,V trucks. Just listening and watching this blog makes me want to scream with laughter !!!! How much time is wasted thinking about The range you will get if you are empty or loaded !!! I am completely lost for words about this Madness for Net Zero Emissions !!!!
I've got to stop now before I go insane about how Ridiculous this whole E,V, stupidity is !!!!
He charges on his brakes m8 😂 so no time wasted
You like it enough to take time to comment. The engagement is helpful to the channel. 🙂 It will also give you a chance to work on your punctuation.
Sounds like you need a psych ward or possibly some meds. Maybe the police can reach you for an intervention in an ev hopefully
So what's your alternative? There isn't any. Diesel/Petrol/Hybrid will be taxed to hell and Hydrogen has many flaws