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Can we get more on Giles' Sarto once its built up and being ridden? Thats a super cool story and be cool to see it fully completed
"... Granted it is a small market " 🤐
It's awesome to see a bike with this geometry though - it's great to see something built elegantly within such specific tolerances
Lmao. That was a little bit funny. Had a very small laugh. Just a short one.
I heard it and had to check the comments.
as a beginner bike mechanic, I love watching more experienced peers work and explain their opinions, you have many videos where you ask mechanics their opinions, those are valued in gold for me. Thx a lot.
LOVE that this video focuses so much on shorter riders!! I am a 158cm lady and what a nightmare it is in terms of bike choices PLUS the need to swap cranks, stems and handlebars even on the smallest frames. I have a Rose sl disk pro 45cm and a Diverge 44cm - but after this video I am definitely craving the Pinarello X. Just hope other brands follow the trend to tend to ALL riders, especially at the top bike segment (eg Specialize only carries 44 in more base variants - not the S-Works) Cheers and Kudos for the video!
The Sarto is very interesting, I never thought about with people with dwarfism riding a bike. But it's great that they are catered to even with a complete custom build.
Para cycling in general is a world full of very interesting bikes with loads of custom parts that you'll never see on the shelf of an LBS.
Kudos for persevering with that Sarto. Looks the part.
Couldn’t help but snigger when he said “Granted, it’s a small market”
Sarto makes custom frames only. That even includes the paintjob. These frames are still cheaper than the China-made, vomit-inducing ugly pieces of crap offered by Pinarello.
That Sarto is awesome! Love the story behind it.
Great video. I spent a long time researching before getting an endurance bike. I landed on the new Look Optimum and I love it.
I couldn't help smiling when James said achondroplasia "is a small market". You're doing a great job and Giles' bike looks awesome!
A welcome return to the ‘traditional’ Cade video format 👍
Just wanted to say thank you, I am a cyclist with achondroplasia and was stoked to see Giles' Sarto being featured, looks so cool.
I currently have an Islabikes Joni 24 but have upgraded it somewhat.
Thanks again
Andrew Smith
Chairperson
Little People UK
Really heartening to see brands catering for the "masses"......long may it continue 👏. Great to see James back on the channel 👍
Voting for the canyon with the integrated bars and lack of stem length options at purchase? That’s a surprising one to make the list…
Agreed, my local bike fitter literally told me he hated them a few weeks ago.
It still has an adjustable handle bar (width wise) and a properly "endurance" lax geometry and stems that "make sense" and not 100mm+ stems. It's still much more adjustable and fits more than other fully integrated road bikes so yes should make the list.
Agreed.
So unpopular you can't even find one in stock? I agree with you kinda. But i think we are in the minority here.
Many Endurace builds come without the integrated bar/stem. The only hurdle at that point is finding stems for the wonky 1 1/4"/31.8mm steerer tube (canyon, zipp, ritchey, and giant all sell some).
I’ve learned a ton from these fit videos. I feel I’m even helping other cyclist I encounter with the shorter reach being better for most concept. That Pinarello looks sweet. And yes four and a half K is expensive. Appreciate him keeping it real.
Great video, one of my favorite segments on this channel, I always come away learning something!
So glad to see you include the SB140. I can’t agree more. Since the 1989(ish) Yeti Ultimate, I’ve tried tons of Yeti products. The SB140 is the most fun a mountain biker can have with their clothes on.
I love my canyon endurace. Its the first bike that fits like a glove.
oh i agreee with that so much
I'm looking at buying one but I seem to be between a Medium and a Small. Do you think the bike is big or small for it's size?
Ridley helium, with ultegra r6800. My first fully custom, self build roadbike and its great! Good cable routing, super lite, rim brakes and fulcrum quattro alloy wheels. Fits perfect with integrated 110/400mm stem and rides super fast.
+1 for the Fairlight Secan. You’re spot on about the range of sizes. I got one because the 56R has the same stack and reach as my racing bike, so I can set it up with the same position, 35 mm tyres and mudguards for winter use, then lose the ‘guards and fit nice fat tyres for summer off-road riding. Top piece of kit, rides well and looks mint too.
I love the Pinarello. Still love my F4:13 that I got 15 ish years ago, brilliantly tight and compact and stiff too. Love the curves!
I'm glad you mentioned the Allez.. I guess i got lucky picking. I lucked out and it's working well after some minor tweaks.
My Condor was fitted. I love it.
I have an Canyon endurance CF SL DI2 small frame. At 5’ 10” I was surprised their app selected that frame size but it fits great. My local bike shop assembled it ( they only do a full assembly) which I thought was wise for them and ensured everything was done right. It’s been 3 years now and I think it was a great choice. I bought it because of the reviews and I needed DI2 because I can only operate the paddles from the left side due to partial use of right hand and it was the cheapest DI2 I could find with endurance frame. Have it programmed to synchronize shift with just the left paddles. Works great. My bike shop has no problems working on it and has supported me well.
That's good to hear. I'm 5' 9" and I'm a bit hesitant to get the small.
@@moustachecrow go with their recommendation. The small fits me very well. Had a bike fit at my shop and they agreed. Rite size.
Good to see that Pinarello does a shorter, higher bike that does not look boring. I still love my Supersix Evo. Also shorter and higher than most race bikes and is available in non-boring colours.
Thanks for the Video. I ride a Cube endurance Roadbike in 62. i Need the Stack but the reach was far too long. Now it fits with a 60mm stem and und the saddle positioned completely forward. I will take a look at that pinarello
I solved the short legs problem with Evil Chamois Hagar (small frame) - totally cool bike for an out-of-the-box experience for someone with 27-inch inseam and the seat can be lowered 3 inches more!
Fairlight's Support team has amazing knowledge when it comes to fit and recommending frame sizing.
Love my FSA Super Compact handlebar
For some reason the fact that James rocks a Speedmaster makes me like him even more ! Cheers :)
Most boring "expensive watch" there is!
yes absolutely beautiful watch
Completely agree on the Canyon seatpost, I got one because my brother changed it out. I have put it on multiple bikes and even go through the trouble of changing it out on bikes just for 1 ride.
Gamechanger and surprised other brands arent picking up on it
Great vid.. Good to learn what Pina have done with the X. Trek Domane worth a mention? As it’s reach and top tube are pretty helpful too
Hey James, I remember you complaining how hard it is to find short cranks. Croder, a Taiwanese brand, make cranks from down to 140 mm, as well as a fitting set that's adjustable from 180 zo 140 mm and some other cool knicknacks. Thought you might be interested.
Thanks, I know, we stock em
I have the Fairlight Faran and its a workhorse on tours and such a playfull bike on day rides.
What a wonderfull bike for Giles!!!! thats awesome!!! i think we should have a video with Giles, and let him talk about bike fit, and the joy of riding a bike, and the difficulties of riding with having dwafism.
I have a Fairlight Scan and love it. Also, great company to deal with. 👍
Im currently riding an aliuminium canyon endurace. one of my friends has one too. theyre great bikes.
My favorite bike is the one I’m on now. Sage Titanium Barlow gravel bike.
I have been shocked so many times how much people are willing to spend on top end race bikes that they can't even ride because of the geometry. I have shopped multiple of these bikes second hand that barely have any kms on them.
People buy them as status symbols, to show off their wealth and their ability to buy them.
Those bikes are ultimately luxury items, much like an expensive Swiss made watch, designer Italian suit or German sports car.
@@vaska00762they are luxury, but they aren’t luxury for luxury’s sake. (Like gold plated iPhone)
You guys should nag James to jump on the podcast from time to time. I love his energy
Another great video, thanks guys. I ride a Dogma F10 and have been looking for a more comfortable option without compromising too munch on style and purpose. The Pinarello X was recommended to me, as well as the De Rosa Merak and their new model, the 70. I wonder if they offer similar ride comfort than the X. Any thoughts on these two?
I love Cannondale, I have two, SuperSix and a Synapse, both great and the colours are awesome
They are probably a few years old, right? C's frames shapes and colour have let themselves go since then.
This is wild! Just sized up my mtb to a 480 reach size large, been on a medium forever! But now I know I’ve got to size down on the road bike!
Video needs a statement right up front from James about which brands/shops he had a relationship with or not.
He lists all sponsors / affiliates in the video descriptions 👍
Would be interested in your thoughts on the Look 765 Optimum, seems like it makes use of a similarly genuine "endurance" style geometry as the new Pinarello X ( unlike most other Endurance named bikes which seem to have stupidly long reach!)
Cervelo Caledonia 5 ❤️
Great bike, super comfy, very versatile, aero enough to keep pace, but endurance focused.
My Mondraker Level is my favourite bike, i'm not really fit enough to smash the climbs on a mountain bike so love getting additional miles on a ebike in the window I have available.
Such an amazing take on getting everyone to ride despite the limitation of bike industry scam 😊
That Yeti is a beast!
that Sarto is magic
I miss bike fit Tuesday videos!
I just turned a cannondale slice thats one size too big into a Road bike. I just gotta keep in mind to always have a safe place to jump off whenever i stop. Track stand improved, i wouldn’t ride in the rain. To level up the anxiety i decided to try tubular. Sense of not feeling the road i think it’s pretty crazy. I believe with enough miles in the setup going to a normal Roadie i would be able to just Ride and lose the urge of tinkering
Am trying to decide my next bike purchase. Fairlight Secan was being considered. After seeing it on this list and being 6'5" I think that's the decision made!
I've been looking for high quality gear that fits my size (6'7" long torso), do you have any recommendations for bike clothing that might fit? Everything I've found is very generic and boring.
@@unknowablerootvegetable
Afraid I don't have any good recommendations. Things I have tried are: Endura, Rapha and DHB.
Endura are uncomfortably short. Bib shorts particularly.
Rapha bought at a warehouse sale. Again, bib shorts are too short in the shoulder to crotch length.
DHB are actually ok in size for shoulder to crotch length but the quality isn't there. Chamis is lacking if you need something for a long ride.
I get why there isn't a market for our size but it's really frustrating.
What do you think about Look 765 OPTIMUM? Would love to hear your opinion about this bike. Apparently the most comfortable bike Look has ever made?
Really interested to learn about the Pinarello X and the X3 looks the job! Will search out some reviews now...local shop not too far in Beaulieu sur Mer.
Finding next to zero reviews of X3! No video analysis at all to speak of apart from it's unboxing and looks. I need ride quality etc. Also out of stock at store. Needing a lot more to seriously consider it.
Thumbs up for Canyon Endurace I enjoy every moment with it!
I own the predecessor to the Pinarello X, a Prince FX. Design nearly undistinguishable from the F12, but a slightly higher stack. A Dogma for the comfort-seeking gentlemen at a much friendlier price. Completly underrated - hopefully the X will change that.
Thumbs up for Prince FX❤️! Such fun bike!
Any love for the Specialized Diverge?
Lol that Pinarello has goofy stack numbers :) I quite like my Orbea Orca for having generous stack on a bike that is still short / steep head tube / fun to ride. But at the same size there's like 40-50mm more stack on that goofy thing :)
Orbeas look good, Pinarello are the definition of ugly.
Seeing the Yeti on here made my day
Hi, I love your videos, they are all great. Do you have any experience with Lapierre Xelius bikes? There are few reviews, I own one (6.0) and am very happy with it but would be interested in professional review not from Lapierre... thank you if you receive and read this message 😊
I feel like James' musings are always very well reasoned (even if I don't necessarily agree with all of them 100%). Love this guy. We all want more James.
James....I saw you had a basso astra behind you while talking about handlebars......how is the bike in comparison to the pinarello x? Im looking at the basso to purchase!
James! Thanks as always for doing these videos with him. Wish I could afford to fly across the pond to get a fit with him but I'm afraid that just isn't going to happen.
#metoo
Yeti, Aston Martin, Omega Moon watch, this man is doing ok for himself
Please, please, please do a feature video of Giles and that full Sarto build. (Assuming Giles is up for that).
Ritchey Outback Breakaway with Sram Force AXS, Zipp 303 Firecrest wheels Rene Herse Bon Jon extra light tires… you get the idea
A bike for every fred and dentist going 🎉 and my favorite bike is any bike thats working that someone can get on and enjoy
The midget bike is really cool. Only thing I'd like to see is some sort of carbon fiber arm that maybe attaches to the seat post and curves up and around above the tire to allow a bag & rear light to be attached like a Garmin radar needs to be unobstructed.
Oh no, hope Andy recovers fast and well!
What does James think about the Pinarello gravel bikes? They seem a bit shorter and taller than for example the Specialized gravel bikes
A Domane Sl6 is nearly identical in reach/stack to the X3. for a 52cm frame its stack 564mm/561mm (X3/Domane) and reach 368/371 (X3/Domane). Not sure 3mm is noticable.
And yeah, Fairlight are great :)
Hi, I'm curious what do you think about Merida Silex (gravel bike). Is it possible to fit this bike? Btw I'm 194 cm tall and bought XL. Cheers!
Actually the Canyon VCLS Flex Seatstay is an Ergon product that is rebranded for Canyon. The founders of Canyon and Ergon are brothers and both firms are next to each other in Koblenz, Germany.
Specialized diverge as it's the only easily available at a not outrageous price bike that fits me at 6'7" with a 37" inseam.
Funny i ride an Open and you show a Open 😎👍
I ride the Wide Version an must say that Open is mega comfy ❤ plus i can change everything without a hustle ❤❤
No integrated Cable Routing. I can buy Standard Seat Post and so on 😎
Got different Wheelsets so i can ride it more on the Gravel Side or on the MTB side ❤ i even can Do Bikepacking ❤
But the Best Thing about it is that i got a Bikefitting on me and the Open.
That i can ride it endless.
200k without pain ❤❤❤
The only issue with Fairlight is that they don’t make smaller sizes. I’d love to have a Strael road bike. But I need a smaller size
So with the Canyon you can easily adjust handlebar width, but neither stem length or height? Very innovative.🥳
Can I ask a quick Bike fit Question? My main road bike has 170mm cranks, but my new gravel bike has 172.5's. Should I swap the gravel to 170s to keep the biomechanicals loads the same??
Do you have video available or plan to release one regarding the Basso Astra shown in the background?
That sarto looks a lot like the HUPP bikes that kidsracing sell. I guess they both share a similar aim of small person on 700c wheel.
Kidsracing sell lots of stuff for fitting smaller people and are really expert and good to talk to.
Yeah, for those on a more modest budget, they are a great option. My daughter was only 10 when she got her 700c Scatto from them
Hats off to the SB140 fucking great such a good bike
XC bikes with 'Modern Geometry'. I have a 2016 Merida Big Nine and its easy to get 60-65mm saddle setback. My 2023 Merida Big Nine allows for a MAXIMUM of 35mm saddle setback, so I have a lot of weight on the hands. I don't understand the move to steeper seat angles for all XC bikes... :(
It's literally impossible for me to get a comfortable bike because I have an insanely high inseam to height ratio (~0.5). Great to see more high stack / low reach bikes coming to market
Wish there were more geometry options out there like the Pinarello X, but with a lighter frame and high end groupset options. Not sure why every manufacturer seems to deem it necessary to build gimmicks into the endurance bike or assume that endurance riders only want a 105 groupset - is it too much to ask for a shorter/taller version of a standard race bike? Colnago used to offer High geometry on their C-Series, but even they stopped that with their new C68.
is there your video about the basso Astra in the background 😊😊😊
l like they make a 24 road wheel n tires l wonder if a 26 is also available which would be great for kids too the next issue would a short reach road levers that ld fit their smaller hands . AND $4500 pinarello is that a complete bike or just a frame ??
1 Pinarello X
2 Giles' Sarto
3 Open Min.d
4 Canyon Endurace
5 Fairlight Secan
6 Yeti SB140
Missing a 7th? 😅
Love the look of the Pinarello but as an Audax rider in the UK you are expected to fit mudguards. So something light, fast and comfortable with appropriate fittings is what I'm looking for.
Well, you choice is not big.. it is either Cannondale, Look, Fairlight or custom. Other bikes are doomed to be fitted with ugly clip-on mud guards... You can also go custom or buy a gravel bike. At least there will b enough space for proper mud guards like Honjo with 32mm tire..
My giant defy has guard mounts
Do you have to to enter the event? You can get mudguards now that don't require frame mounts
You could always go for mudguards that attach to the frame with silicone straps or velcro. SKS Speedrockers are an example.
@@glennoc8585there not very good and despite use of helicopter tape you will likely end up with some paint damage where they mount. More importantly they are just not as effective as mounted guards.
ENVE MOG is so good.
I’ve got the previous gen Endurace with a cockpit that’s way too long and wide. As Canyon don’t sell them separately I’m really struggling to find aftermarket options
You could convert it to a normal bar and stem, or Pro does a cockpit that fits 1 1/4" steering tubes as well.
Haha a small market . Good one
My not so expensive flat bar Hyrbrid-Commuter bike has 700C Wheels, so I'm actually ahead of the curve. 😆
I'm convinced James is Clarkson's offspring the way he said this 😂😂
A heavy Penisrello, what a surprise. And it's expensive. Kudos for the number of sizes.
Since that brand went into carbon about 20 years ago, their frames have indeed looking like shriveled 🍆s. Before that they had their steel and aluminium frames made by Sarto, a company that knows how to build beautiful frames.
What's your opinion on the Cinelli Nemo Tig Gravel?
What is your opinion on magnet pedals like Magped pedals?
I think you‘re wrong about the minimum width of the Canyon Aero Cockpit. I‘m pretty sure it‘s 39 cm at the narrowest setting. You can only go up to 41 and 43 cm from there.
James did a sales plug for Pinarello here 😅.
hey folks - could you maybe do a review on the "polygon helios" version "a7x" or "a8x"?
its a brand from indonesia and they are mostly known for mountain bikes, but i have the feeling these bikes could be really worth the money.
cheers from germany :)
It's also worth noting/keeping in mind that at least a couple of these brands have been flagged for poor quality production (looking at you, Canyon and Open!) by others 👀