Bro youre teaching college level audio engineering techniques for free on youtube!! major props to you all of your videos are super informative, on another note RIP to my student loans
This is full technical accuracy right here man. Easy to understand, humble and straight to the point. I've used FL since it hit the market, but you have surely given me a new, more organized way of producing, with results. Thanks bro.
a good way to look at it is just study old school/analog mixers. (1) the source signal comes in at the top where the gain control usually is (2) the signal flows through the channel (ie; top down, etc.) (3) the channel output occurs last before hitting the main bus so like you show, adjusting the output channel fader doesn't do anything to adjust the level of signal coming IN to the channel initially. if a signal is clipping going into the channel & all you do is turn the channel fader down, you'll just end up with a lower level signal that is still clipping. my old projects have awful gain staging & leveling going on. now, i rarely touch the output faders & try to keep them as close to unity as possible. its nice to have some sort of system, like the Katz K-System, for all signals being recorded & put through the mixer, so you'll always have a reference to work against.
How do you go about deciding how many db to take off of a signal and where to set the threshold? Obviously use your ears but I've heard figures thrown around like -5 of gain reduction on dynamic basses etc
Pretty much the former of your comment. Listen to how low or high you need to go. I'd use fruity balance to control this. Also, don't go by anyone else's comment because everyone's tastes and projects are different than that of your own.
Jerry how are u liking the cm800t still? i have a tlm 103 and was wondering if u think its a massive upgrade? im going for that c800 sound for rap vocals
"Thanks, Jerry. I have a question: this mixer fader seems to behave as post-fader (after FX). Is this good, or not? Does this happen in every DAW, including Logic Pro?"
It's hard to make a good mix. When you listen to music on headphones and then you make the sound louder with the master limiter, and then you listen on the speakers, it's really bad.
The Clip Gain isn't The same as the Volume before you send it to a mixer when the sample it just sitting in the arrangement . You could turn the volume down on an 808 and use a VU meter on the master and it will be hot. If you turn the gain down then the Vu Goes down.
I just loaded an 808 in the playlist like you’re saying, and both the clip gain and volume knob have the exact same effect to a VU meter loaded on the master. So I’m not exactly sure what you’re saying. The clip gain and volume knob are both pre-mixer.
@@mixwithjerry Well I was definitely wrong with what I said, and that's what happens what you watch too many videos on gain staging and you're just getting into it. The problem that I have is that I tend to have to turn everything down too low because its it seems the low end always seems to be too much. And after applying a multiband, limiter to the master (which maybe isn't necessary?) the low end goes right back up to being hot and I don't feel like continuously turning down is the right answer. Should I be applying limiters or clipping to individual tracks?
@@thesoundation7706 Yeah I definitely use clippers and limiters on some individual tracks. With low end, utilizing some distortion and saturation to create harmonics in the midrange will help make the low end sound more loud without necessarily having to add a ton of low end.
@@thesoundation7706over the last year or so I went back to mixing low but found that I can not get the end results I wanted in terms of loudness. Alot of the dynamics are lost with the sounds. So I went back to mixing mild to hot in the levels. Just turn down the output volume or master fader on the bus if you have to to mix. As far as limiters go, I started to add limiters to group channels, kick and bass glue channels, etc. Just to tame any peaks. I initially thought applying a limiter should really be just for the master bus, but it can be used anywhere really. Some good results are achieved when experimenting.
Bro youre teaching college level audio engineering techniques for free on youtube!! major props to you all of your videos are super informative, on another note RIP to my student loans
This is full technical accuracy right here man. Easy to understand, humble and straight to the point. I've used FL since it hit the market, but you have surely given me a new, more organized way of producing, with results. Thanks bro.
I know this info already and still watched because you cooked brotha!
Thanks bro 🔥
@@mixwithjerry of course man. Keep up the awesome work
This video is one of the best explanations of gain staging and everything that’s involved with it. Great work Jerry! 👏🏼 🎶
after years of working with fl studio now it becomes clear to me how to gain stage properly in Fl studio , thanks for sharing jerry
thank you SO much for this video . THIS is so helpful for me
thank you for this! so many questions answered 🙏
Great stuff, thanks
a good way to look at it is just study old school/analog mixers. (1) the source signal comes in at the top where the gain control usually is (2) the signal flows through the channel (ie; top down, etc.) (3) the channel output occurs last before hitting the main bus
so like you show, adjusting the output channel fader doesn't do anything to adjust the level of signal coming IN to the channel initially. if a signal is clipping going into the channel & all you do is turn the channel fader down, you'll just end up with a lower level signal that is still clipping.
my old projects have awful gain staging & leveling going on. now, i rarely touch the output faders & try to keep them as close to unity as possible.
its nice to have some sort of system, like the Katz K-System, for all signals being recorded & put through the mixer, so you'll always have a reference to work against.
Really useful information..
Amazing work!
Amazing!👏🏻👏🏻
Great tutorial, thank you 😉👍
You made my day🥲.
How do you go about deciding how many db to take off of a signal and where to set the threshold? Obviously use your ears but I've heard figures thrown around like -5 of gain reduction on dynamic basses etc
Pretty much the former of your comment. Listen to how low or high you need to go. I'd use fruity balance to control this. Also, don't go by anyone else's comment because everyone's tastes and projects are different than that of your own.
@@mikesaintjulesmusicagreed 👍🏼
Thanks, Jerry!
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks jerry !
Jerry how are u liking the cm800t still? i have a tlm 103 and was wondering if u think its a massive upgrade? im going for that c800 sound for rap vocals
@@tarutran6391 Love the CM-800T. I don’t really use my TLM-103 anymore. It’s just not as smooth. The CM-800T has the tube sound.
@ thanks for the reply
"Thanks, Jerry. I have a question: this mixer fader seems to behave as post-fader (after FX). Is this good, or not? Does this happen in every DAW, including Logic Pro?"
Not too big of a deal in my opinion
Some good advice actually, been using fl studio for years but mostly just working blindly not knowing what I’m ”really” doing lol
Same boat bro🥲
It's hard to make a good mix. When you listen to music on headphones and then you make the sound louder with the master limiter, and then you listen on the speakers, it's really bad.
Thank you. Quite helpful.
No problem, glad it helped!
You forgot to say this video is for live recorded instruments
@@africannoobgamer933 This video is about the flow of audio signal within FL Studio. It applies to any type of audio in this DAW.
Pattern selector's volume knobs are the true legends of Gain Stage ❤
Absolutely 🔥
The Clip Gain isn't The same as the Volume before you send it to a mixer when the sample it just sitting in the arrangement . You could turn the volume down on an 808 and use a VU meter on the master and it will be hot. If you turn the gain down then the Vu Goes down.
I just loaded an 808 in the playlist like you’re saying, and both the clip gain and volume knob have the exact same effect to a VU meter loaded on the master. So I’m not exactly sure what you’re saying. The clip gain and volume knob are both pre-mixer.
@@mixwithjerry Well I was definitely wrong with what I said, and that's what happens what you watch too many videos on gain staging and you're just getting into it.
The problem that I have is that I tend to have to turn everything down too low because its it seems the low end always seems to be too much. And after applying a multiband, limiter to the master (which maybe isn't necessary?) the low end goes right back up to being hot and I don't feel like continuously turning down is the right answer.
Should I be applying limiters or clipping to individual tracks?
@@thesoundation7706 Yeah I definitely use clippers and limiters on some individual tracks. With low end, utilizing some distortion and saturation to create harmonics in the midrange will help make the low end sound more loud without necessarily having to add a ton of low end.
@@thesoundation7706over the last year or so I went back to mixing low but found that I can not get the end results I wanted in terms of loudness. Alot of the dynamics are lost with the sounds. So I went back to mixing mild to hot in the levels. Just turn down the output volume or master fader on the bus if you have to to mix.
As far as limiters go, I started to add limiters to group channels, kick and bass glue channels, etc. Just to tame any peaks. I initially thought applying a limiter should really be just for the master bus, but it can be used anywhere really. Some good results are achieved when experimenting.
@mikesaintjulesmusic thanks for the feedback