Big thanks for this, legacy media seems to have forgotten about reporting anything other than divisive click bait, new voices like yourself are breath of fresh air. keep it up and thanks again.
You are absolutely correct. I have adopted a system of clearing ALL my watched videos. Then choosing a random non political subject. What do their algorithms do ? Send me more boring divisive political videos. This, despite the fact that I pay for their 'Premium' service. I used to watch RUclips for an hour or so (when it was varied & interesting) in the evening and then read a book for an hour or so, before going to bed. Why have RUclips allowed it to deteriorate ? Do they not want to keep their customers ?
Most people aren't interested in hearing about a pre-trial hearing in which, honestly, nothing very much happened. You'll likely see more reporting once the trial actually starts.
@@bobrussell3602 Yes, and youtube wants you to make comments and interact in the comments, but as long as you are going through comments (with video over or paused), there are No ads. I also use the ad center to block almost every ad as they start.
Why is hard to know yes. Although certainly it was done to hurt peoples feelings about the country they live in // and possibly its pleasurably symbolic for people that don't love england.
You have another important tree in your neck of the woods (forgive the pun!) - The Bethnal Green Mulberry Tree. I used to live opposite it on Bonner Road.
@@TheCatBilbo We pay lip service to innocent until proven guilty, but the CPS wouldn't prosecute them if they didn't believe they had a case.... Plus, we can say our opinions as we please, it matters not in the course of the trial what some chat on here says, do get it in perpective...
Sad that someone allegedly felt the need to destroy what was a fabulous piece of iconic flora, which gave great enjoyment, attachment to nature and peace to many people from all over the world. I sat at the foot of the tree many times, rested and enjoyed a sandwich, a cup of tea and a chat with passers by, before setting off again along Hadrians wall on a lovely walk in either direction. 😢
What a really good piece of citizen journalism with no half arsed theories, digs at minority groups or conspiracy theories - just straight forward, honest information. You've definitely missed a vocation 👍
Except yours. Given that every theory concerning the potential existence of a conspiracy theory is itself a conspiracy theory. Its just mad lefties think they own this paradox & that they have exclusive rights to erase facts with it.
@@JoeZUGOOLA The Newspapers and TV News (especially certain examples) often push racism for political means. Think Brexit fear about Africans and Eastern Europeans. Although just to clarify, the original comment didn't say it was a majority. And they also named it 'citizen journalism', meaning that they were comparing it to that specifically. Hope that helps.
@JoeZUGOOLA well it depends what red-top you read as far as journalists are concerned and citizens unfortunately do all the time. Social media is blamed as if it's a conscious entity when in reality it is only a reflection of us. I loved the reporting in this case because it didn't seek to do anything except report facts, I am free to make my own mind up about what I think after I've watched it - its pretty hard to do as well ( the report, not the thinking)
Well done Sir for reporting on this disgusting and cowardly crime. 10 years sounds good to me, we can't have this happening again to our beloved ancient trees.
We saw the tree before this despicable and senseless atrocity. When my daughter was married across the border. We loved going to the castles and the wall and photographed the tree before these arrogant thugs did this! Why oh why would these idiots do such a stupid thing? There’s no mitigation whatsoever. Thank you for your review.
I really appreciate you following this case and, providing an update on the trial scheduled for December. Many other Australians are interested, like me, in the final verdict. 👌👌👌🇦🇺
I hope they both get the FULL 10 years. WHY would anyone want to just hurt and destroy something so beautiful, and so precious to SO MANY other people. As someone else said, what a disgrace the the main stream media have not followed this up, and have roundly ignored it - exactly as they have with what is going on in Ukraine. You would think that war there had stopped, if you went by the MSM. DISGRACEFUL!
What the entire country, and, much of the world wants to know is.........WHY? When you tell us this is grown me of 31 and 38 years! This is completely baffling, cant wait yo hear their side of the story!
They were high, your honour, and didn't know what they were doing. Their girlfriends had their mobile phones, and they drove past the tree, so the mobiles pinged off a nearby mast. They were interfered with by the local priest and are now mentally scarred from the ordeal. God told them to do it. It will be every excuse under the sun and they will blame others but themselves. They will deny this until the bitter end. COWARDS!
Yep...I initially thought kids.....31 and 38!! They are grown fucking men!!! Disgraceful!!! They make me sick. I'll be very interested in the results of this crime
There should be some type of additional charge for destroying (not damaging, destroying) an historical monument, and these two need to go to prison for a very long time.
I can’t understand why anyone would want to cut down a tree that wasn’t doing any damage. There’s 2 neighbours on my estate who’ve cut down lovely trees to a stump when they could have just shortened the branches. What is wrong with people?
How close to their houses/foundations? Neighbours house/foundations/fences? Were they blocking light? Were they dropping sap on cars? Were they diseased? Were the roots damaging sewers? Pretty sure no one wakes up in the morning and thinks it a great idea to chop their own tree down, without good reason.
It's generally a good idea to turn up smartly dressed, it shows you take the hearing seriously. These muppets though wore waistcoats so I think they went too far.
Thank you for taking the time to follow this up. I’m writing this from Queensland, Australia. We lived around the area for about 6 years and loved the area where the alleged crime took place. Such a sad and shameful thing to do. Hopefully justice will prevail!
It's going to make a great film too. I am confident Tom Cruise will do all his own stunts during the tree felling scene. Great coverage, I will be tuning in to you channel each day as we get closer and during the trail. Thank you.
You mean zero right? If you think the cutting down a tree affect the local economy or businesses then you are living in a fantasy world. If people don’t spend their money pointlessly driving there CO2 and cars to go and take a picture of this tree, then they’ll go and spend somewhere else, how old is that?
@alexanderSydneyOz It's called tourism. People from around the world visited the area to see it. The loss will definitely impact on visitor numbers and therefore, local businesses.
Many thanks for your time and information, hopefully with how emotionally many feel about what happened, justice will be harshly served if these individuals are found to be guilty.
Harshly served will be a ten year sentence... When pedophiles are let loose every day. These guys should get community service and a £5k fine at worst.
This is the first video of yours I have seen and I must say to you that it is a very professional unbiased piece. Very well done sir, you are a credit to journalism. Keep it up.
Good stuff Gordie lad. I'm glad you're sticking with this case. It's fascinating this one, why would they do it ? It's just baffling to me. I can't even come up with a ludicrous idea as to why they would cut a stunning tree down. But we will soon find out. I hope these two get a bit time behind bars if found guilty, prison won't be a nice place for these, i hope they send them down here to walton, liverpool, we'll look after them.
As baffling as you find it some people just love their actions to have a huge impact and even better if it’s a negative impact. This was not just a regional story it caused outrage and profound sadness globally and this pair of beauties were probably glued to their televisions, revelling in every second of it.
Great update and thanks for that. Nice to see someone not allowing importance to be brushed under the carpet. If they were the guilty ones I hope the court makes a massive example of them and jails both for the maximum it can. After all, this sickening vandalism caused outcry not just in England but around the globe.
Who would start a conversation "let's cut down the sycamore gap tree" Why on earth would anyone think thats a good idea. Still cant get my head around their selfish attitude. Bizarre........
Iv given that much thought and have concluded that perhaps it was not about the tree, maybe its an attack against a person, group of people or even business/government institution as some kind of revenge act. Seems intended to cause upset and /or shock, strikes me as very petty and vindictive behaviour which may have the dumbest of justifications.😖
Firstly thank you for covering this - I was in absolute shock at what they had done - they ruined it for so many people. Also - Daniel Graham is jsut 38?! He looks a lot older than that!
If the evidence is incontrovertable and they are as we suspect common or garden ne'er-do-wells then personally i would require the sentance to be at the severe end rather than a nursery school decision. Thanks for covering this in the way it should be.
Excellent reporting, I'm trying to get into following more smaller, local media. I'm sick of the culture war and the endless worry the bigger mainstream press causes everyone.
We have a lovely painting of the tree and Sycamore Gap in our living room. So a constant reminder of this despicable act of vindictive vandalism. Hopefully justice will be fully served if found guilty but the tree as it stood will be forever lost. Thanks for this video and your future updates 👍
Thanks so much for keeping us up to date on this despicable crime. It seemed everyone had forgotten about it, but maybe they're waiting for the full trial.
Great reporting. No sensationalism, just straight talking and facts. I’ve subscribed and look forward to the coverage. If they are indeed guilty these two idiots deserve the full sentence and should never be allowed to reproduce. Best regards from (a frosty) west Dorset.
Thanks for the update. I remember seeing this story on the news, what gets me is when I think human behaviour can't get any worse, it always surprises me.
Mate, big respect. Very professional and engaging coverage. Thanks for keeping up with this. I really want to know what was going through these people's minds
Thanks for the update , I remember feeling shocked and angry when it was reported the tree had been felled…… WHY !!!! , hopefully we get the answer in due course .
Thank you for reporting on this. Legacy media have given up reporting on any news until the new year now that Strictly Come Dancing and I'm a Sleb have restarted. I'll check out your last report too, thanks again.
Brilliant videos Eddie. I somehow missed the earlier video on this subject. You go into far more detail than the main news outlets. Your style on this subject is very impartial, really good reporting.
Have they given a reason why they felt the need to destroy something so beautuful? It's such a pointless and bizarre act of vandalism. People never cease to amaze me with what makes them tick.
Be careful about assuming guilt at this phase. It is sub-judice at this stage, and if a judge felt that public comments could bias a jury, then it can cause a trial to be abandoned and those who publish such comments can be held to be in contempt of court. It is fair comment after a verdict, not before.
@@TheEulerID It's, not a, question that effects subjudice rules. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, I'm just asking if they have given a reason. Obviously if they upheld their right to silence then the answer is, clearly no. Which is acceptable and within their rights. I only ask because I did hear they'd talked about it so purely curiosity. I deliberately didn't assume guilt for that reason. Maybe I could've phrased it better rereading it. I get theft from people, violence against others, drugs - even murder. Shit happens. But a tree? I'm just at a, loss as to ANY reason someone would destroy something for no reason. It's like all vandalism - I don't get it. And this from an ex con. Bizarre.
@@bocephusbirchcull4044 Straight off the government website on sub judice. "‘Contempt of court’ happens when someone risks unfairly influencing a court case. It may stop somebody from getting a fair trial and can affect a trial’s outcome. Contempt of court includes: publicly commenting on a court case, for example on social media or online news articles" Edited down a bit. Sub judice runs wider than just that though. A very recent example of somebody who has been prosecuted for it in recent times is Tommy Robinson who has just been imprisoned for 18 months for the offence. Basically, in UK law, you are not meant to publish anything which might bias a jury trial. Appearing to assume guilt could be one. Cases have been abandoned because of this in the past. These days jurists are specifically told they must not look up anything to do with the case on the Internet precisely because of social media.
Just hoping that we can get to understand *why* this was done. One of the most baffling and upsetting part of this is that it seems to be entirely pointless destruction.
If either of them has admitted guilt privately to their lawyer, then the lawyer will have advised them to plead guilty. If the defendant goes against the advice and pleads not guilty, the lawyer may still represent the defendant's instructions to the court, if they can do so without misleading the court.
Because prisons are overcrowded and Starmer has got to release two convicted criminals early so that these two idiots can be locked up for ten years. We need to bring back hard labour because locking people up so they can sit on their backsides whilst being fed and watered for ten years, is a waste of time.
Thank you for alerting me to this most disturbing crime. I’m Australian so I hadn’t heard about it before, I’m not a tree hugger but I do have a huge respect for the amazing historical record of British culture. I’m going to subscribe to your channel to keep up to date with the latest developments in this case. Once again I appreciate you alerting me to this. 👍🏼👍🏼
@ yeah i am saying i want them to plead not guilty if they plead guilty they may get a reduced sentence. I want them put away as long as possible for what they ‘allegedly’ did.
If they plead guilt that automatically reduces their sentence. And if they plead guilty, there is no trial. You either plead guilty _or_ get found guilty: not both.
Thank you for reporting. I have heard of it while in canada, it was even there reported ! I'd like to see them getting punished according to their crime
@stonehengemaca The economic loss is bad enough but culturally, it was priceless. The grief people felt was tangible. I cannot fathom such cultural vandalism. I would imagine that people who do something like that get shunned by the community. It's so much worse than nicking the Christmas Club money because of the tree's place in the consciousness of many generations of local people, the collective memories of it.
Thanks for the updates. Do we know WHY?? They must have had some sort of a plan or reason for this? They carried equipment? They need to travel to the site. Why why why!?!?? I can't get my head around it. WHY!?!?!
Big thanks for this, legacy media seems to have forgotten about reporting anything other than divisive click bait, new voices like yourself are breath of fresh air. keep it up and thanks again.
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You are absolutely correct. I have adopted a system of clearing ALL my watched videos. Then choosing a random non political subject. What do their algorithms do ? Send me more boring divisive political videos. This, despite the fact that I pay for their 'Premium' service. I used to watch RUclips for an hour or so (when it was varied & interesting) in the evening and then read a book for an hour or so, before going to bed. Why have RUclips allowed it to deteriorate ? Do they not want to keep their customers ?
Most people aren't interested in hearing about a pre-trial hearing in which, honestly, nothing very much happened. You'll likely see more reporting once the trial actually starts.
@@bobrussell3602 Yes, and youtube wants you to make comments and interact in the comments, but as long as you are going through comments (with video over or paused), there are No ads. I also use the ad center to block almost every ad as they start.
Thank you. Heartbreaking 😢
Just baffling as to why someone would do something like this. Thank you for the update.
Why is hard to know yes. Although certainly it was done to hurt peoples feelings about the country they live in // and possibly its pleasurably symbolic for people that don't love england.
Exactly, very twisted minds !
@@cameroncameron2826I know I could be way off but the guy has antifa written all over him.
Logs
Not baffling at all. They are complete dickheads, its simple.
Good report mate...i live 10 miles from the tree and im disgusted with the rat bags
Haven't heard the word 'Ratbags' for years!!! Perfect description !!! 👍🏻
Snowflakes! It’s a tree 😂 worry more about the nonces and politicians!!
@@CEP73 I love that word !!! #childofthe70's
Good description.
where you live has no relevance ?
what about the hundreds of ancient trees cut down recently for the new 20 min faster train line to London 🤮
What a pair of merchant bankers !!! Hope they get the full ten years !!! Great reporting!! Cheers from Bethnal Green, East London Xx
They should really get jailed for how old is the tree…….even split between the two
usually criminal damage is charged as a summary offence after plea deal
You have another important tree in your neck of the woods (forgive the pun!) - The Bethnal Green Mulberry Tree. I used to live opposite it on Bonner Road.
If we've decided they're guilty we can cancel the trial. I wish everyone would bear that in mind: innocent until proven otherwise.
@@TheCatBilbo We pay lip service to innocent until proven guilty, but the CPS wouldn't prosecute them if they didn't believe they had a case.... Plus, we can say our opinions as we please, it matters not in the course of the trial what some chat on here says, do get it in perpective...
Thank you for keeping the general public informed. I appreciate your time and effort.
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@@TynesideLife really appreciate your report 🌳
Following from Australia so thanks for the update. Such mindless vandalism, so common in this day and age!
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42,000 pages of disclosure. Well someone’s making a shit load of money off the back of this one.
How many trees does it take to make 42000 pages of paper?
@ 1 Sycamore.
@@robertroe1956luckily they'll be on computer, not printed
@@capitalb5889 You are too clever!!!
If my disgust of lawyers and solicitors was a tree it would not be a sycamore ... it would be a sequoia tree!
What a couple of despicable creeps. I hope they get the maximum punishment.
Never have I felt so much anger for two random people in my life! Thanks for covering this.
Your government has dropped pretty much most of the UK trees but I'm betting you're comfortable with that?
@@kevinchamberlain7928 wow, how did you know? it is like you are reading my mind, all from an online comment. genius!
I totally agree with you - such mindless thuggery is hard to comprehend 😥
You not follow politics then?
Then you need to try and get a better balance of the subjectivity of life I think.
Sad that someone allegedly felt the need to destroy what was a fabulous piece of iconic flora, which gave great enjoyment, attachment to nature and peace to many people from all over the world. I sat at the foot of the tree many times, rested and enjoyed a sandwich, a cup of tea and a chat with passers by, before setting off again along Hadrians wall on a lovely walk in either direction. 😢
Some people are just entitled See You Next Tuesdays.
Very very sad. Mental health problems will inevitably become a way out for these two miscreants.
you could find another tree? all trees matter you know
Shame the authorities do not put this effort into dealing with the people who have a need to Fell other human beings in this country.
@@jimh5031 Um. They do. Stop criticising "the authorities" for things that exist only in your head.
What a really good piece of citizen journalism with no half arsed theories, digs at minority groups or conspiracy theories - just straight forward, honest information. You've definitely missed a vocation 👍
Except yours. Given that every theory concerning the potential existence of a conspiracy theory is itself a conspiracy theory. Its just mad lefties think they own this paradox & that they have exclusive rights to erase facts with it.
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Do you find that most journalists take unfounded digs at minority groups?
@@JoeZUGOOLA The Newspapers and TV News (especially certain examples) often push racism for political means. Think Brexit fear about Africans and Eastern Europeans. Although just to clarify, the original comment didn't say it was a majority. And they also named it 'citizen journalism', meaning that they were comparing it to that specifically. Hope that helps.
@JoeZUGOOLA well it depends what red-top you read as far as journalists are concerned and citizens unfortunately do all the time. Social media is blamed as if it's a conscious entity when in reality it is only a reflection of us. I loved the reporting in this case because it didn't seek to do anything except report facts, I am free to make my own mind up about what I think after I've watched it - its pretty hard to do as well ( the report, not the thinking)
Well done Sir for reporting on this disgusting and cowardly crime. 10 years sounds good to me, we can't have this happening again to our beloved ancient trees.
Many thanks for the update on these absolute merchant bankers, hope they get a long prison time for this despicable act of insane vandalism.
We saw the tree before this despicable and senseless atrocity. When my daughter was married across the border. We loved going to the castles and the wall and photographed the tree before these arrogant thugs did this! Why oh why would these idiots do such a stupid thing? There’s no mitigation whatsoever. Thank you for your review.
10 years nothing less!
I really appreciate you following this case and, providing an update on the trial scheduled for December. Many other Australians are interested, like me, in the final verdict. 👌👌👌🇦🇺
Can’t put a value on a tree £600.000 it was priceless
15 billion trees a year would say otherwise.
Couple of hundred quid for firewood and even then the value is in the processing and transport .
A very neat summing up of the day's events. Thank you. I look forward to your next report.
I hope they both get the FULL 10 years. WHY would anyone want to just hurt and destroy something so beautiful, and so precious to SO MANY other people. As someone else said, what a disgrace the the main stream media have not followed this up, and have roundly ignored it - exactly as they have with what is going on in Ukraine. You would think that war there had stopped, if you went by the MSM. DISGRACEFUL!
Pauline media know the war in South East ukraine (donbass ) is not going there way oh dear 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😎
A professional piece of reporting. Keep up the good work.
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What the entire country, and, much of the world wants to know is.........WHY?
When you tell us this is grown me of 31 and 38 years! This is completely baffling, cant wait yo hear their side of the story!
I know, its just ludicrous..... WHY????
They are terminally stupid, that's why.
They were high, your honour, and didn't know what they were doing. Their girlfriends had their mobile phones, and they drove past the tree, so the mobiles pinged off a nearby mast. They were interfered with by the local priest and are now mentally scarred from the ordeal. God told them to do it. It will be every excuse under the sun and they will blame others but themselves. They will deny this until the bitter end. COWARDS!
Yep...I initially thought kids.....31 and 38!! They are grown fucking men!!! Disgraceful!!!
They make me sick.
I'll be very interested in the results of this crime
I bet they were making a video
Thank you so much for covering this.
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Jesus I am 37, when you posted the picture of the 38 year old I thought he was late 50s
I'm 47 and I think I look better than him
Wayne Gilmore my supervisor is 27 and looks like he’s 50 odd. Drugs will do that to ya
i think hes had at least 5 paper rounds and all of them up hill
@@DarthDainese I'm 64 next month and look better!
Mirror mirror on the wall...... 😂😂😂😂
Thank you for continuing to report on this.
There should be some type of additional charge for destroying (not damaging, destroying) an historical monument, and these two need to go to prison for a very long time.
❤ yea how many old was the tree?? How much longer would it have lived … 10 years not good enough!!!
I can’t understand why anyone would want to cut down a tree that wasn’t doing any damage. There’s 2 neighbours on my estate who’ve cut down lovely trees to a stump when they could have just shortened the branches. What is wrong with people?
Tennant farmers that were about to be evicted taking revenge on the National Trust.
Possessed by demons. Their only intention to destroy God’s creation.
I think the motive is quite clear. It was to cause the maximum upset to folks like you and me, who care about the environment.
How close to their houses/foundations? Neighbours house/foundations/fences? Were they blocking light? Were they dropping sap on cars? Were they diseased?
Were the roots damaging sewers? Pretty sure no one wakes up in the morning and thinks it a great idea to chop their own tree down, without good reason.
@@skybluescaff How do you people come up with this nonsense?
When idiots don a suit to attend court I suppose they think it will add weight to their non existent credibility.
Better than turning up in Adidas tracksuit for sure. The Judge looks at the facts, not the suit.
Yeah absolutely spot on there. Looking at the photo of him it’s pretty obvious that he’s never worn a suit before in his life.
It's generally a good idea to turn up smartly dressed, it shows you take the hearing seriously. These muppets though wore waistcoats so I think they went too far.
Nothing like a healthy bit of pre-judgement.
Even scrotes know to don a suit for court.
Senseless destruction 😢
Thanks for airing this important news!
Thank you for taking the time to follow this up. I’m writing this from Queensland, Australia. We lived around the area for about 6 years and loved the area where the alleged crime took place. Such a sad and shameful thing to do. Hopefully justice will prevail!
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Cheers buddy for covering this. 🎉
Thank you for keeping us up to date, legacy media seems to have forgotten about this. We Northumbrians haven't.
It's going to make a great film too. I am confident Tom Cruise will do all his own stunts during the tree felling scene. Great coverage, I will be tuning in to you channel each day as we get closer and during the trail. Thank you.
Thanks for the update… keep on with your great Newcastle videos. They are just brilliant to watch
What about the irreversible damage to local businesses and the economy. Unimaginable.
You mean zero right? If you think the cutting down a tree affect the local economy or businesses then you are living in a fantasy world. If people don’t spend their money pointlessly driving there CO2 and cars to go and take a picture of this tree, then they’ll go and spend somewhere else, how old is that?
@alexanderSydneyOz It's called tourism. People from around the world visited the area to see it. The loss will definitely impact on visitor numbers and therefore, local businesses.
@@alexanderSydneyOz you are the one living in a fantasy land. Totally clueless low IQ clown show.
Oh look my comment has disappeared again
That is included in the value of the tree, that figure is not suggesting the tree itself is worth that.
Great reporting, very interesting update, thanks.
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Pair of utter bell ends.
Alleged Bell Ends!
You are being far too kind.
Totally agree captain crispy
Superb reporting , so refreshing to hear clear , concise facts .... major news groups could learn a lot , especially the BBC , thanks for uploading
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Thankyou for being there
Many thanks for your time and information, hopefully with how emotionally many feel about what happened, justice will be harshly served if these individuals are found to be guilty.
Harshly served will be a ten year sentence... When pedophiles are let loose every day. These guys should get community service and a £5k fine at worst.
Well done thanks I hope they both get a very long sentence, it was a disgusting act and shameful
Remember there innocent untill provan guilty at this stage
Great report, the whole country was shocked by this ! ❤️ from Manchester.
Also, thank you so much for covering this. No one else seems to be doing half as good a job :)
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This is the first video of yours I have seen and I must say to you that it is a very professional unbiased piece. Very well done sir, you are a credit to journalism. Keep it up.
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Good stuff Gordie lad. I'm glad you're sticking with this case. It's fascinating this one, why would they do it ? It's just baffling to me. I can't even come up with a ludicrous idea as to why they would cut a stunning tree down. But we will soon find out. I hope these two get a bit time behind bars if found guilty, prison won't be a nice place for these, i hope they send them down here to walton, liverpool, we'll look after them.
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As baffling as you find it some people just love their actions to have a huge impact and even better if it’s a negative impact. This was not just a regional story it caused outrage and profound sadness globally and this pair of beauties were probably glued to their televisions, revelling in every second of it.
Really appreciate your reporting…first time and great that you spoke only facts not theory ….keep it up
Great update and thanks for that. Nice to see someone not allowing importance to be brushed under the carpet. If they were the guilty ones I hope the court makes a massive example of them and jails both for the maximum it can. After all, this sickening vandalism caused outcry not just in England but around the globe.
Thanks for reporting on this mate, media have completely forgotten about it. Top man 👌
Who would start a conversation "let's cut down the sycamore gap tree" Why on earth would anyone think thats a good idea. Still cant get my head around their selfish attitude. Bizarre........
Iv given that much thought and have concluded that perhaps it was not about the tree, maybe its an attack against a person, group of people or even business/government institution as some kind of revenge act. Seems intended to cause upset and /or shock, strikes me as very petty and vindictive behaviour which may have the dumbest of justifications.😖
When you're thick , anything is a good idea
Nice one mate. A good run down of the facts. Clear and easy to understand.
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Really interesting.Good to hear this level of detail👏👏
Firstly thank you for covering this - I was in absolute shock at what they had done - they ruined it for so many people.
Also - Daniel Graham is jsut 38?! He looks a lot older than that!
If the evidence is incontrovertable and they are as we suspect common or garden
ne'er-do-wells then personally i would require the sentance to be at the severe end
rather than a nursery school decision. Thanks for covering this in the way it should be.
Excellent, clear and informative report. Well done and keep up the good work.
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Well done. We need more good men like you to report facts. Legacy media has no credibility.
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Excellent reporting, I'm trying to get into following more smaller, local media. I'm sick of the culture war and the endless worry the bigger mainstream press causes everyone.
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We have a lovely painting of the tree and Sycamore Gap in our living room. So a constant reminder of this despicable act of vindictive vandalism. Hopefully justice will be fully served if found guilty but the tree as it stood will be forever lost.
Thanks for this video and your future updates 👍
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Im pretty sure experts have said the tree/ stump is not dead and will grow again all be it will take many many years
Thanks so much for keeping us up to date on this despicable crime. It seemed everyone had forgotten about it, but maybe they're waiting for the full trial.
Give them the birch!
How about giving them the Sycamore. All of it, from about 10m.
More like the branch 😂😂😂😂
And twenty years.
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Great reporting. No sensationalism, just straight talking and facts. I’ve subscribed and look forward to the coverage. If they are indeed guilty these two idiots deserve the full sentence and should never be allowed to reproduce. Best regards from (a frosty) west Dorset.
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Thanks for the update. I remember seeing this story on the news, what gets me is when I think human behaviour can't get any worse, it always surprises me.
Mate, big respect. Very professional and engaging coverage. Thanks for keeping up with this.
I really want to know what was going through these people's minds
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Hi Eddie, the picture of Daniel Graham at the beginning of the video he looks incredibly stressed 😂
That’s because he has realised everyone hates him.
Great reporting
Thanks for the update , I remember feeling shocked and angry when it was reported the tree had been felled…… WHY !!!! , hopefully we get the answer in due course .
Nice one, thanks for keeping this story alive and bringing us right up to date
Great stuff, thanks for your update.
Thanks for this mate. Will be interesting to follow along and see what the outcome is.
Great update Eddy. Very interesting stuff. Still feel sick about the reality of their (alleged) actions. I like your jacket!
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Thank you for reporting on this. Legacy media have given up reporting on any news until the new year now that Strictly Come Dancing and I'm a Sleb have restarted. I'll check out your last report too, thanks again.
Brilliant videos Eddie. I somehow missed the earlier video on this subject. You go into far more detail than the main news outlets. Your style on this subject is very impartial, really good reporting.
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thanks for the update. I hope you will do another video once the trial is over.
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Your on the top my friend, great video Eddie ❤
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A great piece of reporting. Thank you
Yes indeed, but I can't get the wood unfortunately
thanks for the update... thought it had been brushed under the carpet
Have they given a reason why they felt the need to destroy something so beautuful? It's such a pointless and bizarre act of vandalism. People never cease to amaze me with what makes them tick.
Be careful about assuming guilt at this phase. It is sub-judice at this stage, and if a judge felt that public comments could bias a jury, then it can cause a trial to be abandoned and those who publish such comments can be held to be in contempt of court.
It is fair comment after a verdict, not before.
@@TheEulerID It's, not a, question that effects subjudice rules. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, I'm just asking if they have given a reason. Obviously if they upheld their right to silence then the answer is, clearly no. Which is acceptable and within their rights.
I only ask because I did hear they'd talked about it so purely curiosity. I deliberately didn't assume guilt for that reason. Maybe I could've phrased it better rereading it.
I get theft from people, violence against others, drugs - even murder. Shit happens. But a tree? I'm just at a, loss as to ANY reason someone would destroy something for no reason. It's like all vandalism - I don't get it. And this from an ex con. Bizarre.
@@TheEulerIDthat’s bullshit.
@@bocephusbirchcull4044 Straight off the government website on sub judice.
"‘Contempt of court’ happens when someone risks unfairly influencing a court case. It may stop somebody from getting a fair trial and can affect a trial’s outcome.
Contempt of court includes:
publicly commenting on a court case, for example on social media or online news articles"
Edited down a bit. Sub judice runs wider than just that though.
A very recent example of somebody who has been prosecuted for it in recent times is Tommy Robinson who has just been imprisoned for 18 months for the offence.
Basically, in UK law, you are not meant to publish anything which might bias a jury trial. Appearing to assume guilt could be one.
Cases have been abandoned because of this in the past. These days jurists are specifically told they must not look up anything to do with the case on the Internet precisely because of social media.
Thanks for covering this. Will look out for you early December. Good work, pet.
Just hoping that we can get to understand *why* this was done. One of the most baffling and upsetting part of this is that it seems to be entirely pointless destruction.
Great report thanks
I still cant understand why anyone would feel the need to cut down a beautiful tree just because
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If these two did cut down the tree, I'd like to hear from the defence team as to why they want to get the two a not guilty verdict.
If either of them has admitted guilt privately to their lawyer, then the lawyer will have advised them to plead guilty. If the defendant goes against the advice and pleads not guilty, the lawyer may still represent the defendant's instructions to the court, if they can do so without misleading the court.
Glad I saw this, the media hasn’t reported anything I wasn’t even aware another person had been charged.
Why are they only facing ten years in prison for destroying a unique part of our national heritage. They are despicable.
Who cares its a bit of land get a grip
Because prisons are overcrowded and Starmer has got to release two convicted criminals early so that these two idiots can be locked up for ten years. We need to bring back hard labour because locking people up so they can sit on their backsides whilst being fed and watered for ten years, is a waste of time.
Why oh why would anyone do this.
They are both disgusting.
Thank you for alerting me to this most disturbing crime. I’m Australian so I hadn’t heard about it before, I’m not a tree hugger but I do have a huge respect for the amazing historical record of British culture. I’m going to subscribe to your channel to keep up to date with the latest developments in this case. Once again I appreciate you alerting me to this. 👍🏼👍🏼
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What's wrong with caring for trees?
@ nothing! I just said that I don’t hug trees, you’re more than welcome to if that’s what you want.
thanks for keeping us updated mate. I hope they don't change their plee as it might reduce sentencing if found guilty.
??? you've got it back to front, sentences are usually reduced when they plead guilty, their current pleas are not guilty,
@@davidoldboy5425 That's exactly how I read what @Flukey_1970 was saying. i.e. you're both saying the same thing 🤷♂
@ yeah i am saying i want them to plead not guilty if they plead guilty they may get a reduced sentence. I want them put away as long as possible for what they ‘allegedly’ did.
If they plead guilt that automatically reduces their sentence. And if they plead guilty, there is no trial. You either plead guilty _or_ get found guilty: not both.
@@beeble2003 ok, I just mean I don't want them to get a reduced sentence if they found guilty they should be locked up as long as possible
Thank you for reporting. I have heard of it while in canada, it was even there reported !
I'd like to see them getting punished according to their crime
£622k? That tree was worth far more than that, culturally and economically because of people who travelled to see it.
I was expecting it to be in the millions. That tree likely brought in more than £600k in a single year.
@stonehengemaca The economic loss is bad enough but culturally, it was priceless. The grief people felt was tangible. I cannot fathom such cultural vandalism. I would imagine that people who do something like that get shunned by the community. It's so much worse than nicking the Christmas Club money because of the tree's place in the consciousness of many generations of local people, the collective memories of it.
Oh get a grip, it was a tree. PEOPLE are being cut down on the streets of Britain every day.
@@alihenderson5910 Is it one or the other for you. Either you appreciate an iconic tree OR you care about people.. Simple world for simple people.
@@stonehengemaca What? Are you insane? It's not an either/or situation.
Nice. You chose the right passtime. You are so good at this
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Give them 10 years!
and a bar of soap which they have to pick up
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Trouble is.. they'll be out in 3 yrs
@@Skipperpilot-d2m maybe, but they will never be the same or have the same life again.
But waste our taxpayers money on prison.
It was on my bucket list to visit. I will probably go and visit what’s left anyway but saddened at the same time.
but why did they cut it down?
thats all i want to know aswell
Spite, and because they have miserable and empty lives - in my opinion, at least
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Because they're Pikey Wankers.
Because if they are guilty of this then they are a pair of absolute thick ignorant tw.ts simple as that!!
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Thank you Eddy for the information
Good articulate reporting !...............I'm subscribing to see what other interesting stories you come up with !🌟
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So pleased your covering this, I look forward to both defendants attending court.
Thanks for the updates. Do we know WHY??
They must have had some sort of a plan or reason for this? They carried equipment? They need to travel to the site. Why why why!?!??
I can't get my head around it.
WHY!?!?!
Thanks Eddie
It will be an interesting case to see what the out come is
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