'I don't believe in the Bills' after Week 5 loss - Chris Simms | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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'I don't believe in the Bills' after Week 5 loss - Chris Simms | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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I was surprised to see Allen back on the field at all. He really seemed like he got his noggin rung 🤷♀
Same, I sincerely hope he was checked properly after the game
He’s the favorite child who can be treated special
@@netia2 They never are. That whole concussion tent rule is a joke.
@dinkumthinkum4247 that's unfortunate because the way his body went limp briefly was scary.
Right when it happened he looked knocked out, I told my wife that’s a concussion. But when he went to the side line he got mad and pushed them away.
Lmao Year 5 of commentators crowning the Bills with a tiara of 'best team in football' then run it back claiming they've got a bunch of 4th string pee-wee scrubs 😂
They were the 2021 super bowl favorites never forget
As a Bills fan, we deserve all the comments and laughs and abuse and ridicule coming our way - because we BOUGHT INTO IT TOO. LOL. Oh well, it is just more of the same and we are at least well used to it, so as usual, we'll be okay. As for everyone else who is laughing? Enjoy.
@@dyates6380 Bills fans buy into this nonsense every year lately
Fans should buy in. It's the media who should be ashamed for their inability to understand the game or use their eyes@@TDR-0484
Reigning Defending Undisputed September Champs
Bro, could u imagine Lamar going 9 for 30 and they calling him accurate ? Lamar didnt get weapons until last year we never heard these excuses for him !
Lamar has a much better coach and defense then Josh ever has
Allen is the great white hope 😂🤣😂
@@danielventura8118Harbaugh don't even call any plays!!! Ravens win inspite of Harbaugh and when they lose I guarantee u Harbaugh had a hand in it.
Lamar saves that for the playoffs
Lamar was missing some throws against the Bengals. He hits some big plays here and there but misses some simple ones. That being said, he was never this bad 😅
Allen got concussed last week against the ravens and this week. But cause his name isn't Tua, that makes it ok. For him to keep playing, Lamar gets concussed and he's out in the playoffs, it's def favoritism
😂😂😂 The favoritism is toward Josh Allen. Like crowing him MVP after beating 3 trash teams.
They have protocols. If he had a concussion he would be out for the protocol. He looked like it this week but went back in as he wasn't seizing up like Tua
@DcLoki12 Allen was 100% concussed yesterday, he was knocked out cold as long as Tua was 3 weeks ago. And last week vs ravens I also thought he had a concussion, just not a severe one. Allen should've never went back in the game 100%
@@DcLoki12That left hand went limp when his head hit. Definitely concussed.
Its time for McDermott to go! In crucial situations he is CONSTANTLY out coached!
whats he supposed to do when his qb is 9/30🤣🤣
mcdermott is cooked. bills need sum new life
when is josh gonna stop missing wide open wr
Here we go again. Everyone crowns Josh Allen the best QB in football when they beat up on terrible teams, then they face an actual playoff caliber team and lose and immediately its “Josh Allen has no help!” He constantly gets a pass for playing poorly.
So does Mahomes though. And it’s not all on Josh, it is poor play calling and WRs no catching anything, and when Josh plays bad the wheels totally fall off
@@milesnugent5916 except Mahome has actually won 3 rings. He has a little bit more leeway with excuses.
@@milesnugent5916Mahomes has never gone 9 of 30 even in the most challenging circumstances
@@blick5511 because Andy is smart enough to draw plays that work, unlike Sean McDermott, who’s calling empty set in his own endzone with 30 seconds left in a tie game
@@AlucardMM Sean McDermott does not call offensive plays. Joe Brady does
If Josh is that guy how did he go 9/30??? At least complete 50% of your passes….
Watch the game over 10 drops but it’s easier to be a hater & do no research
Concussion. He shouldn’t have been sent back out there
@@Drewswaggyjosh Allen was playing trash before that concussion 😂😂
@@jonathanmessenger972still no excuses 😂 josh Allen was voted most overrated for a reason
If Allen continues to tie his wagon to McDermott he deserves what he gets.
After week 3, bulls going to superbowl, after week 5, bills are done...welcome to sports media...
The von miller was a horrendous signing for the bills. Yall got years of a washed hurt player and payed 100 + dollars
killed their cap
mario williams 2.0
Because of the Bills’ great 3-0 start, it got a lot of people riding a high that had them forgetting what this team still is. Which is a team going through a small rebuild.
These last 2 games showed it by showing us that when the Bills face a more talented team they will struggle. This was never going to be a SB potential team. Yesterday Houston was handing them the win but Josh and the coaching staff didn’t want to take it.
This is the 4th place team in a 16 team conference. It’s true to say they are not great but remember most of the other teams are even worse. That’s a big reason why they don’t have a sense of urgency to upgrade the offense. The 2 teams they just lost to are 2 of 4 difficult road games they have this season. They will most likely win the division and lose quickly in the playoffs. It’s also no coincidence that the 4 division leaders have Mahomes, Lamar, Stroud, and Allen.
Correct. I think anyone expecting a trade for WR is going to be disappointed. They know what they are and seem content with it. #1 seed is not on their radar. Not that it matters cause I don't see enough talent on this roster.
How come Allen keeps getting a pass?
Because Josh Allen is amazing
@@johnbennett1729 ..yeah…well he sure looked it🤦🏽♂️🗑️
@@redstone5149 one bad game tiny brain. Where the receivers dropped multiple passes
@@johnbennett1729 …ain’t no reason to get all mad about it and start the name calling. Allen has looked like trash in more than one game. If you choose to disregard his a$$ a$$ play then be my guest. Everyone is now seeing Allen is just an ok qb when he doesn’t have a superstar like Diggs to cover up for him.
Privilege lol 😂
The best thrower in football and he goes 9/30? If he was the best even with his WR he wouldn’t have gone that it’s clear Allen is a WR dependent QB but they can’t admit it.
10+ drops in the game, you didn’t even watch it
Name one qb who isn’t
@@danielventura8118Lamar MVP Jackson and Patrick Superbowl Mahomes.
@@guyfromnewarkLamar doesn't need WRs as he's a RB but mahomes can do without
@@DcLoki12 🤣🤣🤣 The haters never rest!!
I'm putting the Bills crap show on Terry Pegula. He is the owner, 2 years ago he had a decision to make. McDermott Daboll who do you want? Buffalo is coming off of the 13 second game. An astute owner who wants the best has to say do I want to lose Daboll and his connection with Allen my franchise QB. But he didn't and left it up to the guy who was brought in by McDermott. The Daboll Allen connection was up there with Reid Mahomes. As far as the last game a rookie play caller got schooled again. Plus, your only WR who can separate is injured, thank you Beane.
Texans Defense just doesn't let people get open often. Look at the advanced stats. They are wild.
Wait. They gave him the early season MVP and September Super Bowl two weeks ago 😂
Josh Allen wasn't accurate today. CJ makes one off pass and it's a surprise. Josh Allen aint all that and a bag of chips
Talk about the winners first!
This is a clip about the Bills. Go to a different clip if you want to hear about the Texans…..smrt
How many of the people commenting here actually watched the game yesterday? Probably not many including these two a career backup QB a Minnesota super fan all of a sudden wearing the gear when the team is good. Allen had four catchable passes that were dropped a catch at the end of the half that wasn't challenged and three incomplete passes when he most likely was concussed at the end of the game. This is the problem with commentators that don't watch the games and just look at stats. The game last week and this week was lost by the coaching staff and bad play calling
Stop it. Bills were lucky to be in the game. Nico goes out and Texans started getting penalized for dumb ish they avoided in the first half. Yall were plus 2 in turnovers and still lost.
Chris basically said it. They have no one who scares you on the offensive & defensive end. When they went to Super Bowls in the 90's, they had triplets on offense & defense. Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas & Andre Reed. Bruce Smith, Cornelius Bennett & Henry Jones. As a Chiefs fan, I'm loving this 🤣😂
Love on these Buffalo balls bit
@datboyk3261 chiefs are your daddy son
Josh Allen is one of my favorite players but he’s not ‘very accurate’. When he’s on, he’s the most dynamic QB in football but he’s closer to a dual threat QB than a pure passer. Texans probably should have won this game by 10 or more. Stroud made some critical mistakes after playing a near perfect game earlier.
The linebacker made a good play on that interception. On the replay, I can see why it fooled CJ as he was essentially covering two guys at once. No penalties in the first half, they were flying in the second. It certainly had a impact.
Old Bills fan here.. I'm so glad to hear these guys talking like this, it really takes the pressure off. Sure, we started the season killing it. That was a bit of a surprise. With all the new pieces it should have taken longer to click, and maybe that was more of a problem than a good thing. No team, that I know of has gone XX - 00 since the 1972 Fish. So it's time to add/subtract/tune and get on with the season. All this talk is just blah blah blah. It's the same with every team, things will look different a little later. In the mean time, congrats to the Texans! We were outplayed, and out-coached. It hurts to say that, but true. 8( Peace --gary
Thank you. It's refreshing to see fans that can give credit where it's due and move on and not make up a bunch of excuses. We got our lunch money taken by the Vikings. It happens in the NFL. Here's to hoping yall get guys back healthy. Cheers.
Bills fan for 45+ years. JA is generational. But this is spot on. Especially Mike's take on "the protocol".
What happened to playing more free now that Diggs the Diva is gone?
Only applys to bad defence teams. When they play good ones they look awful
Free to throw it 30 times and complete 9 passes 🤣 Also, with how bad everyone is talking about Josh, imagine if he wasn't out of bounds when he tried pitching the ball back to his guy that would've been a fumble. It was comically bad and he was lucky to be out when it happened.
Texans is the truth! No Nico no Mixon and still put on a dominant performance. And the defense shut Allen down! That team is real
I knew it I knew it.. been saying it Bills bout to start getting exposed by good teams
WR had a lot of drops, I mean a lot
@@night25rain 21 drops? Be for real, they were saying he's the mvp through 3 easy games and now he's unraveling. Goes to show they do miss Diggs.
@@night25rainnobody was dropping passes when they beat the cardinals, dolphins, and JAGS 😂 so don't make excuses now
@@RD-mq8octhat's what I'm saying 😂 they beat the dolphins and jaguars 😂 and the delusional josh Allen fanboys were saying he was winning MVP and a Superbowl
@@RD-mq8oc no, but over 10 drops. That would make it 20/30. I don’t think i’ve seen so many in a game
One thing that stands out with the Bills is Dawson Knox and Curtis Samuel. Between those two guys, the Bills are paying about 17 million dollars this season. In 5 games, they have 12 receptions, 78 yards and 0 touchdowns. Even though the Bills started 3-0, this smells of a dysfunctional offense.
But I thought Diggs was the problem?
They should try targeting Kincaid 😂 first round draft pick and never gets a look
Being a Buffalo fan is nothing but heartbreak. I thought that they had gotten the missing pieces for their offense. NOPE.
GM & HC are the major problem for Buffalo. 7 years and they cant build an offense around a Franchise QB. Head Coach constantly messes up in the big moment. Its obvious to everyone except the Owner.
Sean McDermott is a good HC, but he should be let go if Bills don’t make the Super Bowl. They have an all time great QB in his prime, and it would be a shame if they don’t win a superbowl with him.
What yall are missing about that 6:06 seconds of real time is that he went to the bench first. He didn’t immediately go to the tent. He was probably there for 1 minute, that’s 🗑️
Josh was unconscious on the field. It should’ve triggered the protocol. He got knocked out last week against the Ravens as well.
Could you pause the entire game for the concussion protocol? We saw last night they were able to pause a game for 90 minutes due to weather. I know this would never happen, but it begs the question.
Good game, hope Josh is alright. The guy is a warrior, but let’s no forget Mike took the Bills against the Texans last week smh 🤘🏾💯
Just sayin Brady never had a wr that you feared since Randy Moss and still got it done
If Bills get hot at the end of season, they can win it. But the Chiefs have their number & drafted the WR that the Bills handed to them & will come back to haunt thrm
Why wouldn't they trade for Cooper? It would fit the cap better and we would probably just have to give up a 4th.
Stingley, Lassiter, & Bullock!!!
All the talking heads today are saying how terrible Allen played and McDermott...the Texans played well, period.
We lost Nico, Al-shaair came down with the gout...and CJ was still cold AF.
Cold AF after he had a fumble and throws an INT. He was holding his head as if he was Concussed😂 That's Gout!!!
@@michaelkelly6544 4 - 1
@michaelkelly6544 Stroud threw for over 300 yds with a touchdown and we're 4-1, go sit in a corner in hush.
@@michaelkelly6544You should just keep your mouth shut when your QB went 9 for 30.....that might be more incompletions than CJ has had in all his games combined.
Allen is NOT the greatest thrower of the football. Right now anyone saying that sounds like and idiot.
I’m a die hard Bills fan and I’m not afraid to admit when my team is trash. It’s ok to be critical of your team but still love them.
They are also NOT well coached. I’d actually argue that coaching or lack there of cost is the last 2 games.
I think Josh needs to be reigned in/focused more on the game plan. It's easier to get away with lack of preparation vs. lesser competition, but too often he thinks he can will his way through any defensive game plan. It's just not that easy. I thought he had learned but it seems he has more learning to do. He should watch Mahomes play a few more times and see the difference. Take what they give you.
@@Brianp150H first 3 weeks were the JA we dream of. The last 2 weeks are the JA we hate.. only positive is no INT right? However, it still didn’t make a difference.
Just give Houston their credit already
They offered him smelling salts coming out of the tent. Why else would they do that if he wasn’t seeing stars?
That's easy....smell salts are great for twisted ankles 😂
You guys are the only talk I listen to. Thanks for what you do.
Josh Allen arguably the greatest thrower in football Chris Simm??? Give me a break. His best attribute is running the ball.
Need to give houston more credit on defense i dont think they had a qb with over 200 passing yards yet
Darnold
@@MagikFingers420 darnold Had less than 200yrds passing he only had like 160 passing yards I think he had 4 TDs but we kept giving the vikings a short field
It so disrespectful to the winning teams when the media darlings loose. Like they won because the darlings are having a bad day.
It really is! So disrespectful
For real. Texans dominated the first half and then penalties and turnovers let the Bills get back into it. With cleaner football this stays the blowout it was looking like at halftime.
Lose not loose
The funny thing is to start the season the bills weren’t the media darlings. People kept saying the jets were gonna win the division. They turned into it after 3 weeks when people started to say Allen was better than Mahomes which is BS. There’s two extremes. I’m a bills fan but Mahomes is better than Allen and it annoys me when people say Allen is better as much as I like him lol
This dude is lowkey a Bills hater. He does not factor anything when it comes to Buffalo
1st time since 1992 that a player threw 30 or more passes and completed fewer than 10
Says it all. Bills fans bring that up to yourselves next time when you think he's anywhere near Mahomes level
Bro did you watch the game? Qb can only throw the ball, he cant catch it too..... You need to learn the basics of football 😂😂 swifties love to over rate mahomes when hes mid and gets carried by kelce and reid, and especially chris smith.
@@donkeybusmahomes never went 9/30 or even close to that last year when he had a year with the worst receivers in the league literally
💯💯
The bills have enough to win. The problem is Josh is not as savvy as everybody wants him to be. It's on him not in him.
@@jdtalks8023 who do they have?? Mack Hollis?? Shakir is a good #2 but was out. What are you seeing that no one else is please enlighten us.
Josh needs a change in scenery. Do the right thing beane. Send him to jersey to play for the giants.
I won’t be shocked if the AFC East champ is below .500 because of mediocrity shown by teams like Buffalo. As a result, don’t be surprised if New England or Miami won it with Drake Maye or Tua saving the season while everyone else is falling apart.
Bills, Texans, Ravens, and Chiefs are the best teams in their divisions in the AFC. None of them are playing consistently or dominantly right now. Anybody being honest wouldn’t bet against them to be in the playoffs.
Luckily for the bills the rest of the east sucks. The west looks chippy but very hit and miss and the north is always a bloodbath but the browns are sitting this year out. The rest of the wildcard slots could go to anyone at this point. It's a weird year
I'd bet the bills miss the playoffs or lose in the first round guaranteed
Tus is coming back to lead Miami to a division championship this time
As a Texans fan, I'm still waiting for them to starting putting a full 60 minutes together. Hasn't happened yet. It can look like the first half, too often looks like the second. At 4-1, I'll take it but we're gonna need to be better in short order. Schedule is about to get a lot tougher.
Still 3-2 first in the division with multiple guys out on defense. I’ll take it. This is a transition year for the Bills.
Transition to what?
For real, there's still 12 games left in the season. Last season they were also 3-2 after week 5 and those two losses were to the Jets and the Jags of all teams. Then they went on to go 11-6. This time they lost to 2 great looking teams. All in all not so bad for what we all expected would be a rebuilding season.
@@dsylpsstop the excuses 😂 nobody was saying they were rebuilding when they were beating the dolphins and jaguars 😂😂 stop with the excuses
@@dsylpsbro I would take your comment into consideration 😂 but people were saying josh Allen was MVP and winning a Superbowl the first 3 GAMES
Nobody was saying anything about transition when they were beating the dolphins and JAGS 😂
Inconsistency this early in the season is not the end of the world
Woah you mean when your offense has only one playmaker on the field, the QB, he’s gonna have a historically bad game unbefitting of his reputation when the defense has nothing else to worry about? Crazy.
Not to mention he looked like he might’ve got concussed last week and definitely got concussed this week. His brain was probably scrambled eggs for most of this game
New season, same old Bills. If just took 3 games for the rest of the league to figure out how to beat the Bills. The Bills always seem to find new and unique ways to lose a football game and break their fans hearts. Going to be a long season.
I've been a Josh Allen fan since the combine, but even I have to admit that he screwed the pooch so hard against the Texans, I'm surprised PETA isn't protesting outside the Bills headquarters. Sure, he was just barely off on most of the passes, but cumulatively speaking, it turns into a Cluster-Eff. Combine JA's poor performance with Joe Brady's Dorsey-esque play calling, this is what we get. The difference in play calling between weeks 1-3 and weeks 4 and 5 is insane.
I think Allen could sit out a game and it wouldn't be the end of the season scenario. Bills fan here, I'll still buy those tickets.
The JAGS made them look good
Every year its always excuses about Allen. Just admit he is the Great White Hype mouth breather.
It's still week 5, I'm not thrilled but I'm not worried either. I listened to OC Brady's presser and mistakes were made. We still have a lot of weapons to use if we can get Josh point guarding again. New faces and youth, so the chemistry is going to take some time. We'll be fine, to all those overreacting...
Some of us didn't believe in the bills well before this game.
This is who the bills have always been
Speaking as a Bills fan, this is basically who they are. Beat up on the downtrodden/lesser competition and get outclassed/outcoached by the upper level playoff teams. Josh still wants to hunt for the big play with a WR group that isn't talented enough to create open space. Josh is taking his licks now and will eventually drag this group into a wild card win and then get trounced by the Chiefs/Ravens.
This season yeah so far, but some people are acting like it’s always how it’s been but that’s not true. If anything they played down to their competition too much last year
Finally, there is enough Bills tears to fill my coffee mug and satiate my thirst. ;) Cheers.
Bills 3-0 WOW Super Bowl team! Bills lose 2 bad ones WOW Bills are not for real. Sure the Ravins and this game were really poor offensive showings, but the AFC east looks pretty weak right now. Come crunch time they could get hot into the playoffs. Let's not write them off quite yet
Ravens*
We didn't call them concussions in my day we called em "getting your bell rung".
If you think about what a concussion is and how bells works....its fitting, maybe moreso than what people realized when the saying first came to be.
I thought Allen got knocked out. The protocols only take a few minutes, though. Saying it took 6 minutes doesn't mean anything. It takes 3 minutes, but the player has to be truthful.
Simms hasn’t believed in the Bills in 2 years nbd.
I saw this, when we got the fumble, on the 10 yard line. But Josh goes out, and Trisibany comes out to play. II heard the announcers called the play, before the snap. Don't you think that our opponents know this? Open play book? New coach is needed. Can you say Belicheck?
It's not the impact with your skull and the ground that gives you the concussion. It's the impact with your brain and your skull or just your brain getting jostled around too much. So those fluffy helmets may make people watching feel better but they wont necessarily eliminate or come close to eliminating concussions because your brain is floating in your skull so any sudden movement can give you a concussion.
Trading for Davante would make them better this year. But I think going all in for this season would be a mistake. Keep the draft pick, build your team. I don’t think Adams takes you over the top and wins you a Super Bowl
I'm so sick of hearing about great arm talent. It takes more than that to win championships. What about leadership and intelligence?? There is a reason why the Billls, Chargers, Packers with Aaron Rogers, Jaguars don't have recent championships. Great arm talent doesn't always equal wins.
People wonder why josh was voted most overrated by his peers SMH
Josh Allen has had two concussions in 6 days! Fact!
I have watched some locker room speeches after games won and I think there is still some issues there. They do miss Diggs skill set, I think some players who saw Diggs gripes with play calling are still in the locker room and thus the team is not as unified as past seasons. Not sure JA has the right personality to lead a locker room (needs a charismatic coach to help him), he is a good dude and player, but leadership is a God given skill that idk if he has it.
And I will say this last year none of you believed absolutely none of you believed the bills would make the playoffs in a rattle off seven in a row six in the regular season and then a playoff win so you could not believe all you want
They need frigin wide receivers. They have one good tight end, thats it
Lmaooo these analysts clearly secretly wish they had Josh Allen’s gifts cuz my God he gets more passes than any qb in history especially considering he has NO accolades
I don't think Davante Adams wants to go the Bills. I see him either reuniting with Aaron Rodgers or going to the Saints.
What does Allen have on the media?
Curtis Samuel is USELESS. go trade for Amari Cooper.
As much as I hate to agree with this segment but they’re speaking facts. It’s just Josh Allen and James cook on the team Right now. No elite WR’s.
We don’t want to hear it
Patrick M had nothing & won
If he can’t make the playoffs with a 3-0 start then he is trash
Lol I've accepted that the Josh Allen glazing will never stop even though every year he shows us just what a bum he is! 😂
Chris…I was a big fan of and listen every week. You have become so fickle, I can’t listen anymore. 2 weeks ago Josh was amazing and the Bills were the best…now you are finding every little thing wrong that you can.
“You’ve got to stand for something or you’ll fall for anything “.
Wait! They are making excuses for allen?? Wow! JA is accurate?????
Bean and mcdermot have gas lighted josh allen into believing he doesn't need a no1 reciver....."everybody eats"...... bullsh@t!! Until they realise they won't achieve anything without top tier talent around josh he's just wasting his prime years throwing to nobody's.
The Bills didn't get dominant by the Chiefs in that playoff game. They outlined them and won the time of possession. You don't like them? Fine. But don't make things up.
Bad throws, bad drops and horrible coaching. Bills earned that loss.
Texans handed you the L.
Allen came in with 55 to 58% rate and they got Diggs and others to get that number up. He is a high completion QB if he has possession receivers.
They should have run the ball more against the Texans. Davis is supposed to be the change up. Samuels is supposed to be the gadget player.
Lamar Jackson dealt with mediocre receivers his whole career. Josh Allen has it for one year and in 5 games he’s malfunctioning. Don’t ever compare him to Lamar ever again
Simms and Florio blow. These 2 idiots have the same lazy takes time and time again.
And how many receivers dropped passes?
Spoiler alert: it is kick Josh Allen while he’s down in the comments 😂😂😂. Nick Wright has so many burner accounts
Dominated by the Chiefs? They win that game if Diggs doesnt drop a dime, if Bass doesnt miss the FG, or if they didnt have a bunch of defensive players out AGAIN. Any one of those things and Buffalo wins.
Josh Allen is fantastic but man bills get d rode all year long even if they lose but when do they win huge games against good teams?
Just when I think Florio is the bigger clown of the two. Chris Simms says, "Hold my beer!" Josh Allen is arguably the best thrower in the NFL. Smh, you two are just as bad as SAS and Sharpe!
The Bills are at the high end of the mediocre scale. Coaching, front office drafting, QB decision making/poise are all less than great.
I thought they drafted Coleman to be that guy …but they don’t even use him
Cuz he is that guy just a overrated QB throwing him the ball.
Coleman does not get open thats why. He gets no separation. His only asset at the NFL level will end up being a big body jump ball redzone target.
Simms what?? They were absokutely surgical the first 3 games. Teams catch up though.