Too many people accept "it's good enough". Thus, when folks strive for perfection, it makes it that much better. I love seeing old equipment properly restored the right way vs. half assed. Well done.
You clearly are not a machinist. Everything is finished to "good enough". There is no such thing as perfection as perfection is an unattainable standard.
@@Katchi_ I think he's using the ah it's good enough in the colloquial sense, which I think when most of us hear that it's not being used to indicate this job is now in tolerance. But rather they're leaving it short maybe even well short of factory or the appropriate tolerance range or specification. Then using the colloquial "it's perfect" to mean it's meeting or exceeding the tolerance and specification for a given item. I'm sure the majority of machinists get the difference and understand colloquialisms.
I said "strive" for perfection vs. doing a half ass job. One thing I know about machinists is many are lacking in people or social skills like you.@@Katchi_
I've found myself watching a lot of your videos and have subbed. One thing I have to say that I like is that you're not afraid to make a long video. I really enjoy these longer ones.
31:46 PERFECT!! one time I had a job (I am also a Certified Millwright) .. drilling and taping, multiple holes in a paper mill .. exactly like this, on cast iron. and our goal ws for every hole we tapped, to go JUST like this! :)
There was a ton of instructional material in this video comma and you did an excellent job. I will confess. I never thought there could possibly be such nuances to the operation of an arbor press. Well done!
First off... DAMN! What kind of freezer you running! Back in the 80's I was being taught how to line bore. The set up was very much like yours. The only real difference was that where you installed a spacer bar we had a double U-joint in line to allow the magdrill some offset. Sometimes you can't mount it totally flat and square to the bar. Good looking job!
“So it wasn’t crazy.” Really? How about just slightly insane? I’m pulling your leg. You are a master of your craft and do beautiful work. Thank you for sharing, and good health in the New Year.
Another cracking job. I must admit I wouldn't have been brave enough to drill holes in the casting. I would have made up a bearing support on the angle to bolt to the 4 big threaded holes on the front and worked from there.
I loved it! I'm a perfectionist too so I feel your pain and even though we make things harder on ourselves than it needs to be when your struggles pay off and everything comes together its an amazing feeling, excellent video and excellent work!! Keep this great content coming, I love your refurbishment/rebuild videos, its nice to see another person go WAY above and beyond striving for perfection! Hope you and your family have a Happy New Year!!
This is a great video. Making the components for the line boring fixture were excellent. These types of repairs take the time to get the fixtures right and work properly. Like you said, having the large amount of hours up front made for a short but quality repair. Great work. Thanks for sharing.
That is some serious next-level work. I appreciate your thorough explanation of why and what you're doing. Using your OCD to its fullest 😂!! Beautiful job! I winced a little when the air gun blew some paint off..
I wish more RUclipsrs had your OCD! I love your attention to the aesthetic and ergonomic details that others often dismissed as trivial. The end result is well worth the effort. Forty hours of work is nothing compared to the years of looking at an eye sore and struggling with its operation.
Very nice. I wouldnt have been satisfied with these issues either, so good job 😊 And the magdrill line borer is a very nice idea! 😎👍 Greetings from Germany, Chris
I agree with you, that issue would bug me too. It was very interesting and informative to see how you managed to line bore. I know some day I’ll have to tackle a boring job. Great work.
First time I have watched your channel, which I have thoroughly enjoyed. Thank you for taking the time to create interesting content. Most importantly thank you for pronouncing Knipex correctly. That alone earns a subscribe!
When you honed that oil lite bushing, it could have been possible to “impregnate “ honing grit into the bearing. Making it more of a “self lapping” feature now. But honestly i dont think an arbor press would see that much rotation for any amount of discernible wear. Just a thought. I wouldnt do that on a bushing that sees alot of rotation. Great video, great content.
Nice fab of a magdrill line boring tool! 2 mil tolerance on a cast iron arbor press is serious over achieving. Perfection young man should always be chased achieving it can be manic. Your repair and refurbishing isa serious success. Kudos to your approach to repair. Now pour a reinforced concrete pad to level and bolt the press down.
I have use a mag drill a lot in a lot of hard places where only 1 person could get to the Milwaukee mag drill we had weight 87lb. Using it horizontally and locating a hole and getting a magnet on was at times hard to hold it out in front of you and get it in place. It can be done just find a way to block it up if you can if not like I was told man up. LOL when I became a class A maintenance technician and Maintenance team leader I gave the job off to the class c and b technicians if I could. I would have probably used aluminum bronze instead of oilite. But have different opinions and it nothing wrong with that. But overall looks like a great job. Just found your channel. I did work in the tool and die department for 15 years before they asked me to go in the maintenance department but never did really get away from working on dies.
The construction screws you used is a solid idea, we do that in field machining alot for line boring or portable milling/lathe equipment mounting. Though for future reference, you can weld your bearing blocks to most grey cast iron if you absolutely cannot add additional holes. E7018 rod or 309L will get enough adhesion for the bearing block leveling screws or you can braze them on if you are setup to do so. Wouldn't advise doing it on ductile iron tho.
At 49:43 there was a glitch in the Matrix! First time watching your videos and I enjoyed it enough to subscribe so I hope you didn't mind me picking on you! ❤
Excellent job! Especially as it's your first time line boring. The three bearing block idea was definitely the way to go. I could not see you getting the concentricity using a cone to line up the hole to be bored. You reckoned that the drop in the worn hole was around 40 thou. Was that 40 thou of ovality in just the vertical thrust ie downward side, or was the hole oversize in the horizontal axis as well? I ask this as you didn't show you using telescoping gauges to measure the bore. A very interesting video. Happy new year to you from England!
Excellent video and explanation on every step I am surprised you didn't step the cover and shim the rack and loose the set screws but what a nice size press plus the compound leverage I have a dake compound but not large enough, thanks again for sharing hope you have a great new year ed
I just love your videos. Just to give a comment on this video. In my mind you solved both issues by taking the play out and taking a little off that gear. Had you addressed just one of the two it may not have worked. Just awesome to see a way to line bore with a mag drill. Great video showing your thought process along the way. That's what keeps me at the edge of my seat.
Hmm not sure I think they are brass at least when I filed them down they looked the same color but who knows maybe it caught some metal dust or something anyways I added a strip of brass behind the screw to distribute the load. Sorry didn’t show that.
Hydmech s-20 manual great saw would buy again 30 years old works flawless. One of the only machines I brought into my shop and didn’t work on just put it straight to work
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Any case you’re all set up for line boring missions now. Good work love the content! And I hope the new year brings good fortune!
Pretty cool way to DIY a line boring kit. If line boring is something you plan to get into? There’s a few good brands with some amazing kits available. I know of a guy here on YT that’s very big on them for the type of engineering work he does. He might be worth a look if you’re interested? He’s a self taught fitter & turner / boiler maker with a tone of engineering background. He’s also a one man band in the workshop. His wife does do all the filming for their channel though, & it’s a very good watch. Let me know if it’s of interest to you.
Nice job, some thoughts on your proces. I have rebuild or modified existing machinery a lot and learned that the more cautious or accurate you perform the better the result. I know you're aiming the same way. However; why didn't you check concentricity on bearing fixtures you made when you flipped them? I know a 6 jaw chuck should be pretty good at this but a check with a dial indicator and a light tap on the part would enhance your self confidence along the road (I made this like so en so and it's solid as a rock instead of maybe I had to check the runout before cutting the backside because it's not working as I had in mind) You stepped into this loophole before as you explained in the beginning and added a struggle in the end too. A press fit on a a thin bushing changes the inner diameter also. This can be predicted quite well with accurate measurements before mounting. The amount of press fit on the outside is translated quite linear to the bore on the inside I experienced. I probably sound arrogant but's that not my intention. I travelled exactly the same road you took and learned of it. Checking all play on bearing surfaces (and indeed wondering how the axial grooves originated) and measuring everything moving in relation to each other. You ended with a perfect job but took some shortcuts which added more work in the end and could, thankfully not, destroy the desired results. In process building as accurate you can adds just a tiny amount of time but it's a) really rewarding to know that an eventual fault or bummer cannot be addressed to the parts you modified or remade and b) saves you a lot of time just as you experienced in modifying this pink (?) arbor press. Just my two cents. You get there. I promise. Just take notes ;-) All the best, Job
That arbor press was never machined properly from the factory. That mass of galling certainly didn't happen from pulling a loose fitting shaft out. They're not a precision machines like you're thinking. They are rough castings and loosely machined.
Why did you paint the Arbor Press,a Pinkish Color? Me personally,a Pink painted machine has no place in a machine shop. I’m a traditionalist when it comes to machinery colors. All machines must be painted gray.
Too many people accept "it's good enough". Thus, when folks strive for perfection, it makes it that much better. I love seeing old equipment properly restored the right way vs. half assed. Well done.
Really appreciate that
Not too mention the additional effort to go from "good enough" to " done properly" is massive! The devil is in the details.
You clearly are not a machinist. Everything is finished to "good enough". There is no such thing as perfection as perfection is an unattainable standard.
@@Katchi_ I think he's using the ah it's good enough in the colloquial sense, which I think when most of us hear that it's not being used to indicate this job is now in tolerance.
But rather they're leaving it short maybe even well short of factory or the appropriate tolerance range or specification.
Then using the colloquial "it's perfect" to mean it's meeting or exceeding the tolerance and specification for a given item.
I'm sure the majority of machinists get the difference and understand colloquialisms.
I said "strive" for perfection vs. doing a half ass job. One thing I know about machinists is many are lacking in people or social skills like you.@@Katchi_
I've found myself watching a lot of your videos and have subbed. One thing I have to say that I like is that you're not afraid to make a long video. I really enjoy these longer ones.
No sir. Welcome aboard
I’m impressed by the use of a mag drill for line boring; the lad at Snowball Engineering built himself a very interesting tool
Yes I have watched all his videos. I plan on making a line boring stand alone setup as well too in the future.
"30 - 40 hrs of work to set up for a few minutes of machining." That's dedication.
True
That was very cool. I have never thought of using a mag drill as a line boring machine - new subscriber
Yeah people do it all the time
31:46 PERFECT!! one time I had a job (I am also a Certified Millwright) .. drilling and taping, multiple holes in a paper mill .. exactly like this, on cast iron. and our goal ws for every hole we tapped, to go JUST like this! :)
Awesome
There was a ton of instructional material in this video comma and you did an excellent job. I will confess. I never thought there could possibly be such nuances to the operation of an arbor press. Well done!
Thank you
First off... DAMN! What kind of freezer you running!
Back in the 80's I was being taught how to line bore. The set up was very much like yours. The only real difference was that where you installed a spacer bar we had a double U-joint in line to allow the magdrill some offset. Sometimes you can't mount it totally flat and square to the bar. Good looking job!
Yeah I need to get a universal or something would make those jobs go easier
“So it wasn’t crazy.” Really? How about just slightly insane? I’m pulling your leg. You are a master of your craft and do beautiful work. Thank you for sharing, and good health in the New Year.
Thanks happy new year
Another cracking job. I must admit I wouldn't have been brave enough to drill holes in the casting. I would have made up a bearing support on the angle to bolt to the 4 big threaded holes on the front and worked from there.
Good idea as well
Great video of crafting a line boring machine out of a mag-drill.
Thank you I appreciate it
I loved it! I'm a perfectionist too so I feel your pain and even though we make things harder on ourselves than it needs to be when your struggles pay off and everything comes together its an amazing feeling, excellent video and excellent work!! Keep this great content coming, I love your refurbishment/rebuild videos, its nice to see another person go WAY above and beyond striving for perfection! Hope you and your family have a Happy New Year!!
Happy new year thank you
This is a great video. Making the components for the line boring fixture were excellent. These types of repairs take the time to get the fixtures right and work properly. Like you said, having the large amount of hours up front made for a short but quality repair. Great work.
Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely
That is some serious next-level work. I appreciate your thorough explanation of why and what you're doing. Using your OCD to its fullest 😂!! Beautiful job! I winced a little when the air gun blew some paint off..
Yeah me too lol.
Great job, your choice of flamboyant light red, is a bold move. Great piece of kit.
Thanks I appreciate it
Thank you Kyle….you are amazing….cheers from Orlando…Paul
I wish more RUclipsrs had your OCD! I love your attention to the aesthetic and ergonomic details that others often dismissed as trivial. The end result is well worth the effort. Forty hours of work is nothing compared to the years of looking at an eye sore and struggling with its operation.
Yes your 100 percent right thanks
39:00 You should put set screws with Loctite to give the holes their strength back + make them so they won't rust over time.
Good idea
Very nice. I wouldnt have been satisfied with these issues either, so good job 😊 And the magdrill line borer is a very nice idea! 😎👍 Greetings from Germany, Chris
Appreciate it Chris
Impressive adaptation, nicely done.
Thank you very much!
Good job. Nature of the beast, hours & hours of setup for a few minutes of machining on the tool itself
Yep so it goes
I agree with you, that issue would bug me too. It was very interesting and informative to see how you managed to line bore. I know some day I’ll have to tackle a boring job. Great work.
I appreciate it
First time I have watched your channel, which I have thoroughly enjoyed. Thank you for taking the time to create interesting content. Most importantly thank you for pronouncing Knipex correctly. That alone earns a subscribe!
lol thanks
Well done. My theory is learn something new everyday😊
Great theory
Nicely done. If it's not enjoyable to use, you'll avoid using it. I think the fix was worth it for sure.
Thanks Greg been a joy to use since
When you honed that oil lite bushing, it could have been possible to “impregnate “ honing grit into the bearing. Making it more of a “self lapping” feature now. But honestly i dont think an arbor press would see that much rotation for any amount of discernible wear. Just a thought. I wouldnt do that on a bushing that sees alot of rotation. Great video, great content.
Thank you good point
A lot of effort and worth it in the end. Enjoyed this video very much, as always. Happy New Year!
Thank you very much glad you enjoyed it
Nice fab of a magdrill line boring tool! 2 mil tolerance on a cast iron arbor press is serious over achieving. Perfection young man should always be chased achieving it can be manic. Your repair and refurbishing isa serious success. Kudos to your approach to repair. Now pour a reinforced concrete pad to level and bolt the press down.
Yes agreed thank you
31:00 The drilled and tapped holes will be handy to line bore it again, in 80 to 100 years ... once it's work out again! :)
Very true
Nice work.
I think that it was worth the effort.
Happy New Year.
It was indeed. I appreciate it
I have use a mag drill a lot in a lot of hard places where only 1 person could get to the Milwaukee mag drill we had weight 87lb. Using it horizontally and locating a hole and getting a magnet on was at times hard to hold it out in front of you and get it in place. It can be done just find a way to block it up if you can if not like I was told man up. LOL when I became a class A maintenance technician and Maintenance team leader I gave the job off to the class c and b technicians if I could.
I would have probably used aluminum bronze instead of oilite. But have different opinions and it nothing wrong with that. But overall looks like a great job. Just found your channel. I did work in the tool and die department for 15 years before they asked me to go in the maintenance department but never did really get away from working on dies.
Nice job.
I do want to do some line boring. And don't worry results speak for them selves.
Appreciate it
The construction screws you used is a solid idea, we do that in field machining alot for line boring or portable milling/lathe equipment mounting.
Though for future reference, you can weld your bearing blocks to most grey cast iron if you absolutely cannot add additional holes.
E7018 rod or 309L will get enough adhesion for the bearing block leveling screws or you can braze them on if you are setup to do so.
Wouldn't advise doing it on ductile iron tho.
Good to know thank you for the advise.
wow what an incredibly involved process!! i'm glad you found it worthwhile, i definitely would've given up haha
Glad you enjoyed it
Enjoying the videos. Great job
Thank you very much
I liked the long winded trouble shooting part. Mechanical thinking is interesting.
Glad you liked it
At 49:43 there was a glitch in the Matrix!
First time watching your videos and I enjoyed it enough to subscribe so I hope you didn't mind me picking on you! ❤
Welcome aboard
Excellent job! Especially as it's your first time line boring. The three bearing block idea was definitely the way to go. I could not see you getting the concentricity using a cone to line up the hole to be bored. You reckoned that the drop in the worn hole was around 40 thou. Was that 40 thou of ovality in just the vertical thrust ie downward side, or was the hole oversize in the horizontal axis as well? I ask this as you didn't show you using telescoping gauges to measure the bore. A very interesting video. Happy new year to you from England!
40 thou of movement up and down. Side to side was less.
Excellent video and explanation on every step I am surprised you didn't step the cover and shim the rack and loose the set screws but what a nice size press plus the compound leverage I have a dake compound but not large enough, thanks again for sharing hope you have a great new year ed
Absolutely glad you like it
Good improvement! Nice Job.
Thank you
I just love your videos. Just to give a comment on this video. In my mind you solved both issues by taking the play out and taking a little off that gear. Had you addressed just one of the two it may not have worked. Just awesome to see a way to line bore with a mag drill. Great video showing your thought process along the way. That's what keeps me at the edge of my seat.
I appreciate it
Curious if you found the adjustment screws to be plated steel or if they were brass?
Hmm not sure I think they are brass at least when I filed them down they looked the same color but who knows maybe it caught some metal dust or something anyways I added a strip of brass behind the screw to distribute the load. Sorry didn’t show that.
Epic explanation!
Thank you
Excellent video!
Thank you
Well done
Thank you
Happy Saturday 🌴☀️
Good you see you again happy Saturday
Some kind of gutsy project
Indeed
Horizontal bandsaw behind you, didn't see it in the shop tour vids? Looks like a HEM or Hydmech?
Hydmech s-20 manual great saw would buy again 30 years old works flawless. One of the only machines I brought into my shop and didn’t work on just put it straight to work
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Last week bought a H14, it's a 4500 lb beast.
I dont think i would ever have the patience to do all that to an arbour press! Brilliant work but the pink really offends my eyes 😂
Good work. Such with the pink. I did the same with a couple of bench vises just to keep people on their toes and their brain working.
Exactly
Excellent job man, 30% improvement is alot in the machinery world...
Your right lol
ZEST one of my favourite words.
It’s good one
could you have used the radial arm drill to bore it for you?
Maybe but flipping this on its side and lining it up would have been very tricky
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Any case you’re all set up for line boring missions now. Good work love the content! And I hope the new year brings good fortune!
Pretty cool way to DIY a line boring kit.
If line boring is something you plan to get into? There’s a few good brands with some amazing kits available. I know of a guy here on YT that’s very big on them for the type of engineering work he does. He might be worth a look if you’re interested? He’s a self taught fitter & turner / boiler maker with a tone of engineering background. He’s also a one man band in the workshop. His wife does do all the filming for their channel though, & it’s a very good watch. Let me know if it’s of interest to you.
You have 4 existing tapped holes on the front of the press, an angle plate bolted there would have been another option
Good call as well
I kinda liked the 2 endings.
👍
If you got it down to -50 .. that 120 degrees below room temperature .. for brass-bronze that's 0.003 " shrink
Good to know
Interesting
Thanks
👍😎👍
Thanks!
Why did you choose pink paint
Watch the q&a video
I wonder: whats up with the pink?
Watch the q&a video
Conversa demais amigo.
👍
Why pink?
I have a q&a video going over that
Nice job, some thoughts on your proces. I have rebuild or modified existing machinery a lot and learned that the more cautious or accurate you perform the better the result. I know you're aiming the same way. However; why didn't you check concentricity on bearing fixtures you made when you flipped them? I know a 6 jaw chuck should be pretty good at this but a check with a dial indicator and a light tap on the part would enhance your self confidence along the road (I made this like so en so and it's solid as a rock instead of maybe I had to check the runout before cutting the backside because it's not working as I had in mind) You stepped into this loophole before as you explained in the beginning and added a struggle in the end too. A press fit on a a thin bushing changes the inner diameter also. This can be predicted quite well with accurate measurements before mounting. The amount of press fit on the outside is translated quite linear to the bore on the inside I experienced. I probably sound arrogant but's that not my intention. I travelled exactly the same road you took and learned of it. Checking all play on bearing surfaces (and indeed wondering how the axial grooves originated) and measuring everything moving in relation to each other. You ended with a perfect job but took some shortcuts which added more work in the end and could, thankfully not, destroy the desired results. In process building as accurate you can adds just a tiny amount of time but it's a) really rewarding to know that an eventual fault or bummer cannot be addressed to the parts you modified or remade and b) saves you a lot of time just as you experienced in modifying this pink (?) arbor press. Just my two cents. You get there. I promise. Just take notes ;-) All the best, Job
Thanks
Good job with the line boring. I really don't care for the pink color, just my 2 cents
No worries thanks
Why the ghay pink?
Watch the Q&A video
Or the set screws are bronze
Thanks
Great video. Ran into your channel…… good stuff
Appreciate it
If you can't make money with your knowledge and experience, then there is something really wrong with this world.
Trying not successful yet but I will get there
Using a freezer to shrink down is an error, it should be used liquid nitrogen.
It’s just another method
Why would that be?
That arbor press was never machined properly from the factory.
That mass of galling certainly didn't happen from pulling a loose fitting shaft out.
They're not a precision machines like you're thinking. They are rough castings and loosely machined.
Good to know
Why did you paint the Arbor Press,a Pinkish Color? Me personally,a Pink painted machine has no place in a machine shop. I’m a traditionalist when it comes to machinery colors. All machines must be painted gray.
Watch the q&a video