HP HSTNS-PD43, Hacked, OVP, 15.5 VDC

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  • @RoyRogers-p6u
    @RoyRogers-p6u 6 месяцев назад +3

    Excellent, works a treat. Also used 22k and 6.8k for 13.7V. Worth pointing out that you need a good soldering iron with a fine tip, also as someone else has said decent magnification to see what you're doing. Took me a couple of attempts to make the top joint of the 6.8k, 1st time I shorted it to the plated through hole below (before using a magnifier) and although it fired up and lit a 12v lamp the voltage collapsed when put under a real load. Came back to life when I stripped it back so seems quite resilient! All done now, so thanks again!

  • @valdisbutans4470
    @valdisbutans4470 Год назад +1

    Great video - thank you so much!
    Could you please share some more details about the resistors you recommend to use for soldering (metal/carbon film type, wattage etc.)?

  • @klejb
    @klejb 9 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks for the video. For 13,8V, I used 22k and 6,8k resistors.

  • @iggystim
    @iggystim Год назад +2

    As Dr. Zachary Smith would say "Excellent".

  • @turbotrix19
    @turbotrix19 День назад

    I run Hobby Lipo Chargers,I was Wondering if i put 60amp load will it trip?

  • @minus3dbintheteens60
    @minus3dbintheteens60 3 месяца назад

    I'd love a full video or hell even just a comment on how you identified the OVP circuit. I created the first YT vid on how to get this PSU to turn on, there was not a single page on the internet with any info, I basically messed around with the PSU for an evening, probing and taking notes, noticed the shorter pin traces on the end and assumed they might have something to do with turning it on because you would want all other pins connected first before "activating" it, but I admit I tired a few different pins together with high impedance resistors before I had it 100% figured out.
    But, to find where the OVP circuit is and how it works and then actually modify it, I had no clue. I'm very grateful for your video, I used to run mine at 14v but with a load it would sag to 13.4ish, now I have it set to 15v, and I have another volt if I want to use it! Brilliant! I really love this psu, they are tiny and super quiet too!

  • @Jimmyboy1674
    @Jimmyboy1674 Год назад +3

    Sweet Nate! Thanks for the video bro!🤗👍🏼

  • @curtiswest4272
    @curtiswest4272 Год назад +2

    Awesome stuff. Thank you sir!

  • @rubennb4r256
    @rubennb4r256 Год назад

    Great video. Question. Do you still have to float the ground if you use multiples in parallel?

  • @tinkerman4774
    @tinkerman4774 Год назад

    First, thank you! Some folks drill holes on the output tabs for binder posts(or bolts & nuts), while some advise against this claiming that on multi layer PCB units, shorts may result. Would it be possible to drill holes on the output tabs on THIS model?

  • @Jimmyboy1674
    @Jimmyboy1674 Год назад +2

    101amps at 13.8vdc! That's what I'm shooting for!🤗👍🏼

  • @David-j4n3u
    @David-j4n3u Месяц назад

    What pad is for load sharing

  • @dirkbraunschweig6537
    @dirkbraunschweig6537 Год назад

    Hello. I would like to convert my power supply to 13.8V. Which resistance combination do I need?
    Thanks

  • @samuelh8441
    @samuelh8441 Год назад +1

    Do these models have a load sharing pin? Thanks.

    • @hopperbuiltamps2135
      @hopperbuiltamps2135  Год назад +2

      Bottom of supply, 5th little pin from the end is current share

    • @samuelh8441
      @samuelh8441 Год назад

      @@hopperbuiltamps2135 very nice. Thanks for the helpful info and video

    • @dandavis8871
      @dandavis8871 Год назад

      So looking at the bottom with the pins closest to you, counting backwards from the edge it’s the fifth pin right next to the longer pin, correct?

  • @TheJaybird67k
    @TheJaybird67k Год назад +1

    You said 4.3K then 4.7K.
    Which is it plz?
    I'm looking for 14-14.2 volt to run Texas Star stuff.

    • @askjeroen
      @askjeroen Год назад

      It's 4.3k Colorcode Yellow, Orange, Black, Brown, Brown

    • @TheJaybird67k
      @TheJaybird67k Год назад

      Thanks

    • @marcindiesner6938
      @marcindiesner6938 10 месяцев назад

      Hello, can you help, what is the second resistor? You can't see the colors clearly in the video

    • @marcindiesner6938
      @marcindiesner6938 10 месяцев назад

      12k ?

  • @zoltanbalint8681
    @zoltanbalint8681 Год назад

    Hi, and what about the 1600W version? I got some HSTNS-PR62 and PL62 and they got different controller boards than the 1400W. Needs more investigation, because there are no pots.
    Would be a big help if you could tell which is the corresponding leg on the big PIC IC for OVP and Voltage Control so I could trace it back (might not help at all if the PIC is programmed for a different pinout tho). Thanks

  • @tinkerman4774
    @tinkerman4774 6 месяцев назад

    Finally completed probing & tracing out this PSU's side(auxiliary) PCB into a schematic. It is uploaded on EEVBlog ["HP HSTNS-PD43 PSU Hack & Feedback Circuit (Partial)"]. Any comments or answers to the questions in the thread would be appreciated in the EEVBlog thread or here. Thanks again... Cheers~

  • @lloydnorbal3393
    @lloydnorbal3393 Год назад

    does this work on the 1500 watt version, which is the HSTNS-PD33

  • @CCTVReport
    @CCTVReport Год назад

    I want to make a 12v battery charger with it, and i want that when battery fully charge it should shutdown, can you help making video on it ?

  • @Arek_R.
    @Arek_R. 10 месяцев назад

    Appreciate the info/video, thanks!
    Just one thing I'm confused about, why set the OVP to 16.3V while 16V and anything above is a self-destruct?
    Should you not use specific value to set the OVP to safer 15.8V?
    But it probably would be nicer if someone patched the PIC micro firmware to just adjust the OVP to 10-15.8V so , that's what some folks did to the bigger HP PSU.

  • @dandavis8871
    @dandavis8871 Год назад

    I performed the mod got 14.5 I used a 15 K but I can’t get that crowbar under control when I use my four pill shuts off no matter what I try on the crowbar protection

  • @salimflavius2584
    @salimflavius2584 2 месяца назад

    Need help. What size resistor do I need? 1/4 watts or 1 watts for the 12k resistor and 4.3k resistor? Or it doesn’t matter the wattage?

    • @tinkerman4774
      @tinkerman4774 2 месяца назад

      As the resistors are used for signaling (i.e. not directly "in line" for powering purposes so relatively low current & power consumption) so you can use low watt rated resistors(e.g. 1/8W). If you have 1/4 that would be more than adequate (no need for a 1W). Cheers...

    • @salimflavius2584
      @salimflavius2584 2 месяца назад

      Thank you!

  • @IvanHorban
    @IvanHorban 7 месяцев назад

    hi, is there any possibility to limit the current at the level of 50Amps?

  • @tinkerman4774
    @tinkerman4774 5 месяцев назад +2

    Below are tested resistor values for output voltages 12.66V ~ 15.50V.
    { Resistor Values Are As Tested Without Rounding}
    12.66V - 100.1k~103.5k
    12.75V - 80.1k
    12.80V - 71.0k
    12.89V - 59.83k
    13.00V - 50.63k
    13.10V - 44.20k
    13.20V - 39.09k
    13.30V - 35.09k
    13.40V - 31.82k
    13.50V - 29.23k
    13.60V - 26.92k
    13.70V - 24.99k
    13.80V - 23.36k
    13.90V - 21.95k
    14.00V - 20.64k
    14.10V - 19.46k
    14.20V - 18.43k
    14.30V - 17.48k
    14.40V - 16.62k
    14.50V - 15.87k
    14.60V - 15.20k
    14.70V - 14.54k
    14.80V - 14.01k
    14.90V - 13.46k
    15.00V - 12.91k~12.98k
    15.10V - 12.45k
    15.20V - 12.05k
    15.30V - 11.64k
    15.40V - 11.27k
    15.50V - 10.68k
    Note: The reason I went through this range is because I'll be using this during automotive ECU programming to keep the battery charged up. I'll utilize a 100k multi-turn pot so I can adjust the output voltage from 12.8V up to 14.6V as necessary, much like how a car battery charger gradually increases its output voltage during the initial minute or two of charging. Cheers~
    * Regarding OVP triggering: For triggering say at around 15.00V(+/- 0.5V?), OVP starts kicking in between resistance values of 11k~12k and up. BUT... the triggering is not just based on voltage, it is also dependent on current/voltage drop(i.e. at certain voltages, OVP does not trigger at say 2A loads, but will trigger at higher loads say 4A, 6A, ... etc.) so to get a clear picture of the spread of this "grey zone"(in which small loads don't trigger OVP, but larger loads do) it will likely be necessary to make a graph based on methodical testing of not only multiple voltages but multiple current/loads for each OVP hack resistance value under test, and test over a range of resistance values. I'll try to make such graph via an Excel sheet perhaps and upload on EEVBlog and update here when it's done.
    ** Update: The preliminary OVP triggering tests are done and uploaded to the EEVBlog thread titled "HP HSTNS-PD43 PSU Hack & Feedback Circuit (Partial)" - 3rd post down. Can't link here as this comment would get (automatically?) deleted. If interested in how the OVP behaves, check it out (e.g. OVP is disabled for resistances of 10k and below, whereas to keep OVP active to trigger at around 15.40~15.50V without changing the output caps, the optimum resistance is in the range of 10.50k~10.60k). For more details search the thread mentioned above. Cheers...)

    • @tinkerman4774
      @tinkerman4774 5 месяцев назад

      @@ahmedbalobaid753(In reply to the now deleted question by ahmedbalobaid753 of whether variable resistors can be used... keeping in mind they can start from "zero" resistance, ... ) In short... YES! ( Update: Yes for voltage boosting, but NO for OVP mod if using a wire wound potentiometer - the wire wound pot's inductance messes up the OVP's feedback voltage and the OVP never triggers!) But you would not want to set it to start at "zero"(or close to it) unless it is used with other resistors so that the actual active resistance would be within safe ranges that would result in output voltages under 16V(or if the output caps are exchanged with higher values, then under that higher rating). If the pot were set to "zero"(or close to it) without any other resistors in series, the PSU will likely not turn ON(i.e. the fan won't run and the output will not be normal voltage), as the OVP would be triggered immediately (assuming the OVP hasn't been disabled with a similar very low resistor in parallel).
      In my current testing setup, instead of soldering resistors onto the PCB right away, I soldered on relatively long 2 wires(25AWG) one for the voltage hack and one for the OVP hack onto the PCB, and the other ends are connected to a small breadboard for testing with various resistors. Of course after testing, I won't be using the breadboard, but the wires will still be used so I can have a pot & trimmer (for voltage & OVP respectively), on the outside of the PSU.
      For the voltage hack, I started with 4 x 20k resistors(in series as needed) and 1 x 20k multi-turn pot(in series or on its own). For the OVP hack I started with 2 x 20k in parallel(for 10k) and one 5k multi-turn pot/trimmer in series or on its own depending on resistance setting. The grounding has been onto the main ground tab next to the 12V output tab, using alligator clips.
      I now have a 100k pot so I can do without the 4 x 20k resistors + 20k pot. This 100k pot will be used with a big multi-turn knob(which looks like a safe dial) on the power supply's enclosure panel (the PSU will be placed in a plastic safety brief case).
      Also, on a side note, when wires are initially soldered(instead of resistors), before any resistors are connected and grounded, the dangling wires seem to throw off the control circuit(perhaps due to wire inductance/capacitance or due to their acting like antennas for noise), and the PSU will not turn ON. I freaked out thinking I fried the cap or resistor to which the wires were soldered onto, but once the resistors were connected and grounded, the PSU fired up(i.e. turned ON, not catch on fire, h e he).
      In the case of OVP, if the resistance is too low, then OVP may not ever be triggered when needed, and would essentially make it seem like the OVP has been completely disabled. Some don't give a hoot as long as they can boost the voltage up, but having the OVP kick in before the output caps or perhaps some sensitive diodes & ICs in circuit blowup would be a smart move. Hence, my intent to keep testing for a thorough/clear picture of how the OVP behaves at various voltages and loads.

    • @jamjestlx
      @jamjestlx 5 месяцев назад

      Amazing! Thank You! Could You update the comment with a link when You are done? :)

    • @tinkerman4774
      @tinkerman4774 4 месяца назад +1

      (Update comment copied...) My test of this PSU's modified OVP triggering over a range of resistances, voltages & (light)loads has been uploaded to the EEVBlog thread titled "HP HSTNS-PD43 PSU Hack & Feedback Circuit (Partial)" - 3rd post down. Can't link here as this comment would get (automatically?) deleted. If interested in how the OVP behaves, check it out (e.g. OVP is disabled for resistances of 10k and below, whereas to keep OVP active to trigger at around 15.40~15.50V without changing the output caps, the optimum resistance is in the range of 10.50k~10.60k). For more details search the thread mentioned above. Cheers...

    • @salimflavius2584
      @salimflavius2584 2 месяца назад

      I’m new to this. What wattage resistor is best? 1/4 watts, 1 watts resistor.

  • @CainWalters-y3r
    @CainWalters-y3r 4 месяца назад

    Is there any info on running 2 in series? I had it working for a bit but ovp was actually still on on one of them once I fixed it… once I connect to load (29.2v 300ah battery) they both turn off same time. One isolated from ground. And I did have them working at 14.7v each but with a horrible sound from the ovp. Now nothing once I fixed the ovp

    • @tinkerman4774
      @tinkerman4774 4 месяца назад

      What do you mean by "fixed the OVP"? Have you taken a look at my OVP triggering test results chart uploaded to EEVBLog?( thread titled "HP HSTNS-PD43 PSU Hack & Feedback Circuit (Partial)" - 3rd post down. ) Copy /paste the thread title including the quotation marks and "Google it". The 3rd post of the thread has a small thumbnail which can be clicked to open the triggering results chart and you can right click > save as to download the spreadsheet image. Also, you may want to check the load sharing pin features(one of the earlier comments here mentions that pin-5 from the edge on the underside of the output tab is the load share pin). Cheers.

  • @linkems
    @linkems 4 месяца назад

    How does this compare to the typical dps1200, any draw backs?

  • @andrewsamylov2125
    @andrewsamylov2125 5 месяцев назад

    Hi. By any chance, do you have a user guide for modding the HSTNS-PL14?

  • @Bokenbergen
    @Bokenbergen Год назад

    Great hacking! What resistors would you recommend for 13.8V - 14.5V?

  • @RafKos
    @RafKos 4 месяца назад +1

    Hi! Anybody tell me which resistors for voltage 14.5v? Thank you!

    • @tinkerman4774
      @tinkerman4774 4 месяца назад +1

      In short, 15.87k in my case. I've commented here about a month ago a list of resistor values for voltages in the range of 12.66V ~ 15.50V. If viewing on a computer(not phone), then click "Sort by"(next to #Comments) and sort comments by "Newest first" then look several comments down from yours for details. Cheers...

    • @RafKos
      @RafKos 4 месяца назад

      ​@@tinkerman4774 Hi. Yes i saw that But he using 2 resistors and that second is different. Do you know that second value?

    • @tinkerman4774
      @tinkerman4774 4 месяца назад +1

      @@RafKos If you are referring to the OP's (original uploader - Hopper's) OVP resistor in the video, it is 4.3k. According to my OVP triggering tests (for relatively low loads of 6~2 Ohms, or about 2~7A depending on set voltages) OVP resistances of 10k or lower seem to "disable" OVP (note within the low load ranges of 6~2 Ohm, 2~7A tested). If you want to keep OVP active for triggering at about 15.5~15.4V but not triggering below, then 10.5k seems optimal (for the low load ranges tested - I've yet to test in very high loads like 50~100amps range, which may require lower OVP resistances to prevent triggering at voltages to be set for use). For more details of my triggering tests, copy & paste "HP HSTNS-PD43 PSU Hack & Feedback Circuit (Partial)" including the quotation marks and "Google it"(or do a search). The first likely result will be the thread I started in the EEVBlog's Forum section with the same title. The OVP related info is in the 3rd post down. The first post contains my own manually probed schematic of this PSU's auxiliary board(which is shown in this video). Cheers...

    • @RafKos
      @RafKos 4 месяца назад

      @@tinkerman4774 Hi, thanks for your message. I need it for BMW programming. So I need 100-120 Ampers and 14-14.5 volts. Could you printed some covers in 3D for that model or you know somebody whos doing something like this?

    • @tinkerman4774
      @tinkerman4774 4 месяца назад

      @@RafKos I do not have 3D printing model, as I will be using a plastic brief case for my build. But perhaps "Jose_Jn BMW HiTech Retrofitments & Coding" might? If you haven't already, check out his video titled "ISTAP / ESYS 14v PSU Do It Yourself for BMW Flashing and Programming. Up to 80A!!".

  • @irish1217
    @irish1217 Год назад

    These are great videos could you maybe try a hstns pl30 there is no info on those

  • @Mr06Postman
    @Mr06Postman Год назад

    Thanks for this nate. As some one else asked, do you know which pin is for load sharing yet?

  • @tinkerman4774
    @tinkerman4774 4 месяца назад

    My test of this PSU's modified OVP triggering over a range of resistances, voltages & (light)loads has been uploaded to the EEVBlog thread titled "HP HSTNS-PD43 PSU Hack & Feedback Circuit (Partial)" - 3rd post down. Can't link here as this comment would get (automatically?) deleted. If interested in how the OVP behaves, check it out (e.g. OVP is disabled for resistances of 10k and below, whereas to keep OVP active to trigger at around 15.40~15.50V without changing the output caps, the optimum resistance is in the range of 10.50k~10.60k). For more details search the thread mentioned above. Cheers...

    • @BrianThorpe-l5b
      @BrianThorpe-l5b 4 месяца назад

      Where's the Eev blog?

    • @tinkerman4774
      @tinkerman4774 4 месяца назад

      ​@@BrianThorpe-l5bJust copy & paste "HP HSTNS-PD43 PSU Hack & Feedback Circuit (Partial)" including the quotation marks and "Google it"(or do a search). The first likely result will be the thread I started in the EEVBlog's Forum section with the same title. The OVP related info is in the 3rd post down. The first post contains my own manually probed schematic of this PSU's auxiliary board(which is shown in this video). Cheers...

  • @roberthopkins8089
    @roberthopkins8089 6 месяцев назад

    The voltage mod works fine but the crowbar does not.. I have spent four hours on three supplies... With 18k across the voltage. I get a nice range centered abour 14v...Go to 14.08v and the crowbar trips the supply with no crowbar resistor mod... No matter what resistance value I apply in the suggested location be it high or low the supply will happlily produce any voltage and no ovp kicks in.... 😢

    • @tinkerman4774
      @tinkerman4774 5 месяцев назад

      Try connecting a load(e.g. some power resistors / a few amps perhaps) on the output of the PSU... *Update: apparently the OVP hack resistor may need to be a higher value depending on the desired triggering voltage threshold (e.g. 11k~12k and higher for kicking in at roughly 15V, +/- 0.5V depending on triggering load currents) .

  • @david-e7630
    @david-e7630 Год назад

    Does the PSU keep this higher voltage even under load?

  • @vallertsi
    @vallertsi 10 месяцев назад

    Any idea why im getting 17.5v

  • @MateuszPieńkosz-r6g
    @MateuszPieńkosz-r6g Год назад

    Hi. you know how hack HSTNS-PF43 ovp to 15v ?

  • @damjankovacic4418
    @damjankovacic4418 8 месяцев назад

    Hi, I see you are a model HSTNS-PD41 also a mod. Is it the same control board?
    Thank you. Greetings from Slovenia

  • @mervck
    @mervck 4 месяца назад

    how to do that on HSTNS-PF43

  • @jerryadams5166
    @jerryadams5166 Год назад +1

    keep up the hacking Nate, really appreciate you.

  • @laurentiupetre5620
    @laurentiupetre5620 Год назад

    14.2V with 15k and 5.1k. I didn't check min and max but it should be between 13.8-14-8 or so

  • @byronjones497
    @byronjones497 Год назад +1

    Thanks bud

  • @lenslens7379
    @lenslens7379 Месяц назад

    Must upgrade capacitors to more than 16v

  • @marcindiesner6938
    @marcindiesner6938 7 месяцев назад

    Hello, is there any way to limit the current, e.g. to 75A?

  • @nitruz99919
    @nitruz99919 10 месяцев назад

    If you try connecting a 12V load, for example a car battery, does the source work or turn off?