What wears the clutch quickly?
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- This video will help you understand what methods of driving causes clutch wear and how to drive smoothly without wearing out your clutch prematurely. There are three main components you can wear out, the friction material, the friction shock mechanism and the release (throw out) bearing. This video covers all three components.
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I’ve been releasing the clutch way too fast and skipping the bite point causing jerky shifts because I was scared to roast it. Thank you for this video explaining that pausing on the bite point for a few seconds when shifting as well as pausing on it to allow it to match revs when downshifting isn’t bad for it and is considered normal wear. Lifesaver man thank you!
Ironically what you were previously doing was actually putting more wear on your clutch. When you release the clutch too quick often refered to as dumping the clutch you are essentially slamming the clutch plate against the flywheel which is spinning at whatever speed you're reving the engine. Smooth operation is what makes clutches last. How long can a clutch last? How long is a piece of string. Some silly racer boy can burn through a clutch in 10000 miles or less than a year and someone else can make that same clutch last 200000 miles and 15 years.
@@gravemind6536 exactly I don’t know even know why I didn’t consider the other components of the clutch. You’d think I would’ve put two and two together being so into cars😂
Thank you for this comment bro, I would be in deep shit had I trusted myself on how to use a clutch.
At the bite point while holding it for a few seconds, do you give it gas as well or gas after coming out the clutch?
@@madebydade305ify Normal upshifting, yes very slight gas to make things smoother at the bite point
Would love a video about owning a car for the first time. Maintenance, care, etc. Cheers.
I do plan on doing some videos on this topic in the future.
yep !
Watch ChrisFix about taking care and fixing your own car
@@warrior8154 i love his videos !
@@lexithelexus7377 me too
To summarize: you want to keep heat out of the clutch. The clutch’s job is to match your transmission revs with the engines revs using friction. Excessive friction makes it overheat which increases wear. To avoid wear avoid staying on the bite point for over 5 consecutive seconds especially when there is a large difference in speed between the transmisión and the engine. If you ever smell burning make sure to give the vehicle time to cool. And diagnose what causes it so that you can improve. Don’t be scared to use the clutch it’s meant to be used. Yes it’s expensive to replace but it’s even more expensive to replace your transmission. So definitely USE IT. That’s what it’s for.
Thanks
"for over 5 consecutive seconds"
what.
That's a fucking eternity!
On the other hand I'm pretty sure I rode the clutch for a bit in stop and go traffic.
@@user-mn8lz7gf6d in stop and go traffic once my car starts to move i immediately clutch in and coast. it's more work on the legs but i assume it'll help to reduce wear on the clutch lol
@@mappies123holding tj3 clutch in is bad for your transmission. Just shift into neutral and coast, it's even easier on your legs.
@@alexapirot32 the traffic doesn't stop long enough to justify doing that and i rarely get into heavy traffic so it's honestly not a big deal
I’ve learnt how not to wear the clutch out the hard way. But I’m better on the clutch for it now. And I agree all of what this guy says.
I learnt the hard way too. Been through many clutches with learners in my time so I've learn what does and does not wear them.
I think most people especially men drive like total knobheads and generally abuse their cars when young but yeah you soon learn to take care of things. I am yet to replace a clutch and I intend on never having to do so. I have however blown out a tyre from a reckless overtake I learned from that big time it only cost me £50 and 30 minutes of my time but I did it to save 2 minutes. I overtook a tractor on a narrow stretch of road and ended up in the gutter and blew a rear tyre thankfully I was only doing 40mph. The way I drive now is so different, I plan ahead so much and don't focus on speed but instead on the flow of traffic. In a traffic jam I never stop for more than 10 seconds because I just keep the car rolling in 1st gear so by the time I reach traffic thats stopped it starts moving again it pisses people off behind me because they want me to accelerate to a stop quicker but I don't care about them. Honestly anyone speeding about like a nutter in the city is wasting their time you get to the next parked car, traffic light or traffic jam quicker.
Great video. One additional way to reduce clutch wear is to prefer using the brakes to slow down, rather than changing down gears for engine braking. Both are valid driving techniques but replacing the brake pads will usually (depending on your car) be much cheaper than replacing a clutch, so if we can redirect more of the wear and tear to the brakes rather than clutch, that’s a win in my opinion.
There is just some odd satisfying feeling when shifting up the gears and you do it quick enough that you catch the engine rpm on the right time/speed for the next gear and you don't get that jerking nor do you need the clutch to rev-match for you.
Agreed!
It's even better when you perfectly match engine rpm and transmission when down shifting by double clutching. Because of the fluid dynamics, if your selector has a bit of play, your shifter gets sucked into the correct gear as you select it. Feels nice.
WeatherManToBe Rev matching by blipping the throttle without double clutching is more satisfying as it’s quicker imo
@@olliebonugli8881 just spent the day rev matching with just synchros and it's just not as smooth (and even slower in low gears or cold temperatures). Reminded me why I kept on double clutching lol. I don't know how I spent those couple years not doing it 😂
Sadly, it's annoying to try to do it this way in the US because of the rev hang in modern cars. It's not necessarily bad, but waiting so long for the revs to drop (especially from 1st to 2nd) while everybody else is driving an automatic means you'll be slowing down the traffic behind you.
Young learners are so lucky to have a teacher like him.
Been driving over a year. I drive lutons, transporters and cars hundreds of miles per week in my job. And I'm still learning with your videos. I wish I'd known about you during my lessons instead of the usual ones who explain potential issues but no actual detail or fine tuning. You're doing magnificent with your videos, and I'll be passing your channel to all and sundry. Keep on drivin'.
Thank you ☺
I'm sorry that you have to drive in Luton
I guess bringing the revs up to 6000rpm then dumping it wont help
Depends what you're trying to achieve.
@@ConquerDriving my guy x
Doesn't help the driveshalfs or tyres either but its good fun
Mad skids is what is being achived
@@VeyronBD what I achieved was two broken spider gears in the diff
This is actually the very first video I've stayed for 17 minutes listening and actually learning something.
Good job!
Thank you!
My driving has enormously improved thanks to your thorough explanation. I'm grateful
You're welcome ☺
Learned clutch in a 99 miata. First 2-3 weeks were torturously frustrating, but i finally got most of the technique down and its been 99% joy ever since. Miatas are notoriously forgiving to learn on.
I've watched a number of videos on clutch use--all of yours are very well done: clear, concise and easy to understand. Not many people teach well--you do. Cheers.
Your videos helped me a lot with my driving skills.Much love from 🇿🇦
been driving MT for 15 years and still learned a lot from this
Genuinely incredible video. I'm very impressed with your ability to not only teach or explain, but to also show as you do things. Thank you!
This is the most informative and life changing lesson I have ever been given on driving a manual. I just wanted to say thank you.
the most detail explanation about clutch wear, thanks Richard. really helpful video.
You're welcome.
Thanks for the info just bought a manual yesterday and drove it home by-myself for over 20 miles . This video definitely going to help me when I drive again
This is EXACTLY the type of video I was looking for. Thank you. Had everything that I needed.
Thank you for that video. I've been driving for 18 years now, I've had 4 cars so far and in every one of them, I had clutch problems. Thanks to this vid I know where I made the mistakes.
Probably the best channel out here for information. Love your work mate, keep it up!
Thank you
This guy is one of the best driving instructors on RUclips. I'm subscribed for life.
So what I learn is to stop dumping the clutch at every red light and stop sign 👍👍😂
Good advice that 😉
It’s just childish to dump the clutch
Thank you so much for these videos! After years of driving automatics, I bought a used manual car for cheap with 158K miles on it. After a month of learning in a hilly area, I've embarrassingly worn what was left of the clutch badly and I'm working on getting it replaced. I'll try and keep these in mind.
Awesome video, really cleared up lot of mist for me! Keep doing these great educational videos, I love them!
My father taught me all of these things. I've been driving for a couple of years now (4 I believe) and I have always tried to be aware of how I'm driving so I don't put any excessive wear on the clutch. My mother and my sister don't really care and one of the things that they didn't believe, was that the release bearing can wear like that. They always stood on the clutch when at a red light and now the release bearing has been making this horrible noise for the past few months. It's still working, but I'm just waiting for it to fail. At that point the car will be scrapped anyways, if not earlier. Time will tell if the bearing can outlast the car haha
Well, I'm glad I watched this video. Being a newbie to driving manual, I thought I was wildly abusing my clutch all the time by being inexperienced. Yes, I've mistakenly done some stupid things like absent-mindedly forcing it into reverse without pressing the clutch or dropping it at a high RPM a couple times, but now that I've seen this, the vast majority of the time, I haven't been destroying my clutch, and I certainly haven't overheated it, and I've never smelled it. Makes me feel a little better, because it's frightfully expensive to fix, and that's a terrifying prospect.
Omg, I learn new things very useful everyday. Thank you!
You're welcome.
Great videos, enjoyed the clear info all the way from the US. Thanks for all the hard work. Again fantastic work. Wish you were here when I first started learning standard transmission. Thanks!
Thank you for the recognition 😊
Answers all the questions! Great content!
Fixed my shifts from 1st to 2nd thanks for the video
When I was first learning manual, the guy teaching me always got on me for pushing the clutch pedal in for more then a second or so. It made driving terrible. Videos like these really help me rationalize proper clutch use
The information given is really important because I’m currently struggling with driving manual and I keep stalling out but I hope I don’t break the clutch. Thank you so much
You're welcome, good luck 🤞
Driver for like 20+ years and I realised that lately I'm often found myself with the foot leaning on the clutch pedal. I will work on it and hope to re-educate myself.
Exactly what I needed to hear and even extra information I would have never known! Wish they taught this stuff here in the US...
Not sure why I clicked on this video but, you are a natural teacher! Great explanation! I've been driving clutch since I bought a 2003 Honda Civic in 2003, but never really thought about clutch dynamics and usage. I basically just felt if it was correct (smooth without over revving or choking the engine) or not. Glad I've been doing it correctly since I've only had to replace the clutch once in 20 years (yes same civic!!), and that was after the first 4 years when I was learning/intermediate. I'm getting it replaced as I type (maybe that's why I clicked!?) as it is soft now and a bit hard to start without excessive revs on steep hills. Cheers mate!
Yes, trust your instinct if you have it. No need to get too wrapped up in 'rev matching' (very trendy term it seems currently). Like me you probably learned to drive in cars without a rev counter, no bad thing to develop a 'feel' for driving smoothly.
All your videos are very good mate! Keep going.
Great videos mate found them very helpful during my journey.
I'm happy to hear that!
Thanks for the video, I'll keep watching if you keep posting. I love you dude.
Thank you! I'll try and keep posting.
Thank you for the video mate
I was worried about clutch and ways to avoid wear of it
Very helpful one mate
Cheers
You're welcome ☺
I've been driving for 7 years and was told about these things, but not down to the details such as "stay below 2k RPM". Definitely gonna learn more from this channel
Well it depends, if you're on flat roads, staying under 2k is good for efficiency.
But going up a hill, you'll want to downshift to be above 3k or maybe even 4k depending on how powerful the car is.
Going downhill you'll want to do the same as going uphill, but of course not pressing the accelerator, so you can use engine braking going downhill to not use up your brakes.
Just replaced my clutch on 2005 Toyota Corolla and when I say it was burned it was burned it literally falling apart but now that it tools me 8 hours of hard labor to do myself non stop I will definitely be driving better Thanks man I learned how to drive standard myself and I definitely mistakes I live inDallas so big city and your tips are fire 🔥 thankyou
Super helpful video as always!
I bought my first car about 3 weeks ago, the clutch is really bad. The bite point is really high up, I thought about adjusting the cable when I found out it was hydraulic. It's a 2001 nissan almera with 120,000 miles on it. I try to keep the clutch alive for as long as possible, this video actually helped. Thanks!
You're welcome ☺ I hope it lasts a long time. Some cars do just have a high bite point.
Watching these videos as I await a very expensive clutch replacement to be completed. I expect my next one to last quite a bit longer after learning all the things I was doing to destroy the old one. Thanks for the great instruction!
What kind of stuff were you doing before?
same here 😂
Same! 🤦🏾♀️
You mention some more advanced techniques to avoid clutch wear, but that you wouldn't explain them in much detail since they can be hard on newer drivers. I really like your style of teaching and would be interested in seeing a video on some advanced techniques with a manual transmission. I've been learning manual after driving an automatic car for some time, and I have found your videos extremely helpful in supplementing my learning and clearing up confusion.
Thank you, I'll consider such a video.
this was so helpful bro thank you🙏🏾
2:08 i love this guy LOOOL
Learning a lot from your videos. Love ❤️ from India...
Great tips, cheers for the video 👌
excellent tutorials, very informative explained in details
@conquerdriving thank you for your help I passed my test first time!
as a young person learning to drive i find these very usefull as i dont really have that much time to practice i only really drive when i have to do something its nice to learn things even though im not in the car
Learning outside of driving lessons helps you learn a lot mire quickly.
Conquer Driving agreed i have learnt good deal from RUclips and just learning how it works in general
yo same, remember don't be scared to use the clutch, when I started I was scared of killing the clutch so I tried to use it the least I could, I stalled a lot because I went to slow without pressing the clutch
Very well explained, Beavo!!
I have my license for only 7 months, and I drive better than some people who have owned a car longer than me, that is because I have taught myself all these tips you talked about by observing other professional drivers
Thank you for such a useful video
Have had to replace my clutch after a year, d'oh
Not from UK, but your videos helped me a lot 💓
Great videos man, I live in the usa and you’ve been a tremendous help with learning to drive my first manual car
That makes me happy to hear that. :)
@@markf5314 That's exactly how people told me too and it's so unhelpful. Like no, it literally has nothing to do with how slowly you release it. It's all based on finding the spot where the clutch engages
@@markf5314 That will work in a lot of modern cars now but in older cars where the ECU will not compensate it will not work.
This together with that other video with the pizza slicer has helped me to lose my fixation on friction. I had it in my head that in an ideal world I want to avoid all friction. But rev matching is necessary when changing gears and friction is the precise method the clutch uses to do rev matching. Especially when pulling away, because the drive train is starting at zero and it's friction all the way until it's up to the rpm of the engine.
great video. I have owned 3 BMW manual cars as well as a truck for over twenty years and it's the best thing ever here in the US. I look forward to driving my z3 every day. I was self taught and still picked up some great info from your lessons. Now I drive as smoooth as I ever had. I can never do without a manual car.
I'm so happy the videos have helped :)
@@ConquerDriving We really do not have training for manual cars in the US at all! You pretty much learn on your own or from a friend. I really enjoy driving my beamer more than ever! I look for reasons to leave the house and drive! Thanks.
I almost never (unless I really need to) get the car going from a stop with extra revs. I find I just don't need to do it with my car ('22 Corolla). I figure that will also help reduce wear. I am pretty much doing what you suggest in the video but I really appreciate the thorough explanation and also showing he kind of wear your clutch has gone through. That was an awesome addition to the video! My car has rev-matching but it defaults to "off" which is good because I like to rev-match manually. It is much more fun and rewarding. Thanks for justifying/reinforcing my clutch habits 👍
This video may be of interest: ruclips.net/video/UdTSRBJrw7Y/видео.html
@@ConquerDriving Thanks, I will definitely consider trying your method.
I remember Car Throttle bought a car a few years ago that was on 540,000 miles and I believe it was still on the original clutch they do last quite a while even if you aren’t the smoothest, still it’s good practice
With the spring load in the plate, its okay when past say 2nd gear as it smooths out easier the higher you get up the gears. I found it best just to try and get out of 1st gear as early as possible
Low gears are more challenging because they have more torque. Low gears multiply torque.
thank you I wish I was shown this in my lessons more
I’ve had a car for about a month and a half now, and I’m glad I searched this 🤣 I’ve basically been riding the clutch at every set of lights I’ve gone through. Probably need to change my driving style 🤣
I love your videos. @Ashley Neal has got competition!
Haha, thank you.
Very profesional thank you so much🙂
From Canada learned a lot from you may the LORD guide you on the straight path ameen keep up good work
I’ve been driving manual since I got my license 8 years ago (I’m American so it’s not near as common a skill here). My stepsister wants to learn to drive manual in my car so thank you so much for helping get together a little to-do list on things to teach her. I want her to start with good habits but since I’ve been doing it so long on my own and have never taught someone else before, I had no clue how to teach it
It's always a surprise to me how much some people struggle with things that come naturally to me.
Still feel like I learned something.
I'm usually either driving my own mx-5 with a light flywheel and very light clutch or my grandmas boxer diesel subaru with fairly heavy clutch and enough torque that you don't even need the gas pedal for a smooth start.
Every time I get back into my car it feels like I'm about to step through the floor.
Needless to say what works on one car doesn't on the other.
And the the heavy-ass Outback is still faster...
Very insightful
Great video! Thanks!
Thank you.
Would love a video about how to park in multi-storey car parks and using clutch control there etc!
It should be the same as my bay parking video and slow speed clutch control video.
My car has never had a changed clutch and it’s been 24 years from factory with 278k miles, it locked up on me yesterday at a light and I had to shut it off and shift to 2nd and went home all the way in 2nd. I’m not surprised, I think it’s about time for it to get changed out😅
great video! Love it !!
Thank you
Thanks for sharing it
You should have seen the clutch we replaced on the car of one i know...
First i took a test drive. It was making funny noises when on idle and when driving, going in 70 km/h on highest gear (5), with a somewhat weak engine, and pressing on the gas pedal to try to accelerate - the rev was up like crazy!
It was like driving an automatic car without torque converter lock!
The clutch material was... FLAT with the rivets... I was amazed that you could even get the car going!
If the clutch is worn enough to be slipping you will be down to the rivets and damaging the flywheel too.
@@ConquerDriving The flywheel was okay, and that was good, but it was surely not much to go before even that would have had to be replaced.
thanks . keep on going
Thank you.
Good Video
Thank you help a lot
You're welcome
when you in hill he want you let the car roll back abit and slowly build the rev from there, i felt this help, i been not letting it roll back at all but build rev consistently, short amount of time that does not damage engine
I just wanted to confirm I’m driving good, thank you!
Nice video! 👍
Thank you.
Thanks!
I'm not sure why i'm watching this, I haven't driven in anything with a manual for years... And I don't think i ever will again with hybrids and electric cars becoming more and more popular, especially for company car drivers (which I am).
Informative video though, well done.
Thank you and you're welcome ☺
Automatics are 4 gays
2009 ford transit 2.2 tdci 730.000 km on original clutch :) and still works like a charm.
That's amazing! Lots of motorway miles with that mileage though. Cars should record hours not miles.
@@ConquerDriving Absolutely, as well as a few other metrics - For example lifetime average speed (The higher this is the more motorway miles), Total time spent at idle, maybe even things like average throttle percentage (the higher this is, the more hard acceleration the vehicle might have had). Even if these things could only be viewed through diagnostic equipment, it would be fantastic for gauging if a car has had a hard life before buying.
Conquer driving make a video on clutch ware.
Next video on my recommend. Chris fix on how to replace a clutch
My old car had a very worn clutch. Quickly had to learn all techniques to preserve it including rolling into a light stop instead of stopping at the light and waiting. Sadly it was over after a inspection due to the workers completely ruining the clutch and lost all time to repair it. Now got a new car but all those techniques remains
very good vid
The best I've done so far: 2001 Cavalier, I bought brand new -- I got rid of the car at 15.5 years and 181,000 miles (nearly 300,000 km). At this time, the car had considerable corrosion, but the transmission was still functioning as well as it had when the car was new. The clutch was still factory original. I had zero maintenance or repairs on the transmission or clutch.
Good car then. Although I thought it was a vectra by 2001.
That's not a burnt clutch smell, smells like....
Depends on the driving you did though. On the motorway, I regularly drive 100 miles without touching the clutch pedal. I've done 200k miles in 2 consecutive cars with no clutch or transmission issues or hardly any issues. My tips, gentle starts, no holding on the bite ever except for 1 second before I move, no reversing up hills where possible I will park further away in preference to this. No pointless shifting forward half a car length in a queue unless other cars need to get the benefit, espevcially on upward hills. And I freewheel down gentle hills in a queue so I don't have to use the clutch to move . It amazes some people the reliability I get out of the whole car, the way many drive theirs makes me cringe, reliability and longevity and influenced significantly by driving style. My clutch felt a bit different a few years ago after having to reverse up a big hill, I told my mechanic who said it was overdue a clutch. 5 years later still no sign of issues.
@@kryzondaan1855 Mixed driving, probably 70/30 highway/city.
John Cole so did I, not so many miles but 2 clutch cables, same corrosion problem.
Thank you :)
Great video, I like how well you communicate as a teacher. I do have a question about rev-matching for upshifting as you demonstrated around 4:00. For my car, I clutch in for 1->2 but wait quite a while for the revs to drop (through my research on the web, I discovered it's called 'rev hang') but have gotten mixed answers on how to drive with it since I'm new to manual. If I want to get fully into 2 faster, is it acceptable wear to bring the clutch to the bite point quickly after shifting to pull the revs down faster to the point where it matches?
Yes that's ideal, the clutch doesn't really wear when it's rev matching. Many people confuse clutch rev matching with riding the clutch, as long as the clutch is able to bring the revs down and you don't rev it the clutch will be fine. Watch my video on clutch wear.
Hey Richard. Really love your videos, they have helped immensely as a new driver. Just wondering if you know of any tests i can do to see if i worn my clutch. I stalled in traffic the other day and tried to do a quick start, but all i did was burn the clutch around 4000 rpm :(. There was a terrible smell for a few minutes and now im worried i may have damaged the clutch since its still in its break-in period for my new car. Thanks again.
If the revs build but the car doesn't accelerate when the clutch is fully up that means the friction material is worn out.
This is why i'm releasing the clutch as soon as possible - and i've never had problems for over 8 years
2nd - I rev my engine to a point that there is less stress on the clutch, guys knows how to treat a car
A Very Nice Leon
The facial expressions are top notch….😅
Great lesson
all of this stuff came naturally to me but i did learn to drive my first manual vehicle in a 92 shit box just making sure i aint doing something wrong since i never really had a instructor
I never knew Ocon had twin-brother driving instructor :D
13:00. Basically any time you are applying pressure to the clutch peddle you are putting wear into the release bearing. Sure, you can put some wear into the release bearing by resting your foot on the clutch peddle (a no-no), but since there is very little slip (which he talks about) there is very little bearing rotation, and thus wear. What really wears the release bearing quickly is holding the clutch in for long periods of time, like at traffic lights, drive-throughs, heavy stop and go traffic, etc. If you want your release bearing to last as long as possible, basically try to minimize the amount of time you have your foot on the clutch peddle.
Regarding whether resting you foot on the clutch wears the desc: yes, yes it does! Just because it isn't slipping all the time, in a noticeable sense, doesn't mean you aren't reducing the clamping force being applied to the disc, and thus reducing the clutch's load carrying capacity. Just because you don't necessarily notice the slipping that happens, doesn't mean it isn't happening. The worse part of this is that the chances of slipping is very load dependent. The higher the load, the more likely it will slip, and the higher the load the more wear any amount of slipping will cause.