New Intercity Fleet (D Set) Preview
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- New Intercity Fleet (D Set) Preview
I will be going in depth with all the stuff that is in store with the new train, comparing an older one and my thoughts for the future.
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I'm impressed. Best interurban train since the first V sets in 1977. The early version from 1970 was only a one off prototype that was substantially different inside and mechanically.
The timetable may be sped up on the Blue Mountains, the much better doors, slightly wider/corridors, cars will cut an average 40 seconds at stations over 19 stations, the train also has much better acceleration, higher top speed, improved hill climbing, improved braking and seriously better driver control.
It's possible for the current 2hrs 2 minutes to be reduced to 1hr 45 minutes.
Hill climb ability will be good. I love the V sets (and my partner works on them, so there's sentimental value there) but the route as it stands is painfully slow, and the a/c on those units is just garbage. Boiling in summer and freezing in winter. It's stupid they didn't do a domestic build though - it just complicated matters and it cost a fortune to modify the BM line to accept the new stock. Surprised they bothered with the work beyond Mount Victoria.
@@lmlmd2714 the track modifications were fully completed within the few months closure due to bushfires, the full cost was less than $40M, but the conversion allows for all Sydney Trains rolling stock to be used on the Blue Mountains line, Oscars can now be used on the Blue Mountains line. The track modifications allow for much greater flexibility and compatibility from available rolling stock. The air-conditioning on the D sets is very powerful, the doors allow much faster entry and exit.
Thanks very much for the detailed report. I look forward to trying these too. Fixed seats again, I guess. Looked funny with all the loaded bottles on board to weigh it down. New subscriber, keep it coming thanks.
Cool video! I saw a NIF set on platform 1 quite a while ago at Newcastle interchange
Cheers. I can't wait to get on!
saw two day, they were doing a test run of the trains; stopping at the station, opening and closing the doors, then moving on.
I saw a NIF there too
i love the new trains
Looks like the new “D” sets are going to be very cold on the Blue Mountains line in winter when those doors open.
Apparently it's going to be open-on-request only - unless someone pushes the open button, the doors stay closed. Guessing climate control was a big part of it, otherwise winter in the BM line and summer on the coast lines would both be pretty grim. Given the lower passenger loads in these lines compared to the city lines though, i'm not sure the jumbo doors are really needed. Provided they're wide enough for wheelchairs, that's enough, but these seem way oversized for the realistic passenger loadings. Compare it to trains in comparable routes in Europe and you can really see the difference. That extra space could have been used to make some extra tip-up seats or bike storage, or a VENDING MACHINE. We can be on these trains for 3 hours. Surely a vending machine is a no brainer for extra revenue and well fed and fully caffeinated passengers? Regional trains in Spain often have these and it's a *really* good idea, IMHO.
@@lmlmd2714 The new French intercity trains have vending machines, too.
Why the wide doors? Because these trains are designed primarily to carry people to Intermediate suburban stations like Epping, Hornsby, Parramatta etc. That's why the non-reversible seats placed uncomfortably close together. Transport for NSW and the Liberal Government panders to "customers" in marginal Liberal seats . They leave the true intercity "customers" a distant second, because they mostly live in Labor-held seats.
They're not the best design for the Blue Mountains.
No, not all 55 H sets will be converted however, some will be converted into Metropolitan sets but some or most of it will stay where they are
They're badly needed on T4 which has been completely neglected as new trains have been delivered
The passenger accommodation looks inferior to the V sets. Fixed direction seating, limited leg room and fewer lavatories.
Plus I absolutely LOVE manual doors. I'm a bigger fan of manual sliding doors than slam doors.
@@OhKnow379 You can have both power doors and sensible seating - they are not incompatible
The fixed seating is a big mistake always has been hated on the Tangara's
At 2.03 OScar was built in Broadmeadow on the Goninan site like the Tangara and others. Millennium was built in Cardiff by EDi/Downer.
The Oscar will remain until all of the NIF D set deliveries are completed, it's also possible that by then traffic growth may require them to remain. Decision time is 3 years away.
Good one! :)
Cheers
Even though the Tangara G sets were converted to T sets they still do peak hour services from Hornsby to Springwood & Penrith to Gosford & Wyong both operating via the North Shore (that’s if their still running, I haven’t seen since the Christmas holidays started) I doubt the NIF D Sets will see any service knowing 90% of the intercity fleet refuse to drive them & there has been are few petitions to stop testing because of safety concerns, what you might see is more H & T sets servicing Wyong, Gosford, Newcastle & Springwood, while the V sets service Lithgow, Kiama & Newcastle, there have been sightings of T sets operating on the T2, T3 & T8 lines including having the opportunity & surprise of getting T23 & T53 from Ashfield to the City 2 weeks ago & as time passes by you will probably see most or all of the K & C sets back in service (some of this is speculation but it would be great if the information was proven true).
I’m kind of excited, I’m are trainspotter myself.
drivers refused to drive them??
Oscar sets aren't used on the Blue Mountains line anymore, the farthest they would go would be Emu Plains which is part of T1 Western :)
Looks shiny, though I'd have liked it to be home-built like it's predecessor V sets, or Tangaras or all those beasts that served 40-50 plus years rather than these Chinese built craps
Yep. Would be even better if it fitted through the Blue Mountains tunnels too!
The blue mountain tunnels were meant to be widened with the introduction of the Oscars but fell rampantly behind schedule the width of the D sets is in no way a design flaw as much as the media would like people to believe
Would be good to know why local manufacturing can no longer handle building NSW trains with both previous providers now coupling with OS suppliers. That said I'm glad UGL is involved in the contract as Downers "additions" to Sydney's railways have been (pardon the pun) a trainwreck!
2 and a half years later… and these new intercity trains still not in service. They need to sort it out
I have to wonder why the D sets like the B sets have orange highlights while the rest of the fleet were either ordered with or retrofitted with yellow highlights. Is the government about to saddle the public with yet another expensive train makeover because I'd rather it was spent improving operations
4’20 Mark you state I wonder 💭 what will happen to The H Set / OSCar Trains with introduction of The NIF...
• The H Set / OSCar Trains will progressively be converted to Suburban Standard Sets (this means like the long distance Tangara G Set InterCity~variant {that The OSCars replaced} The OSCars as part of there handover to SYD Trains Fleet operation, will have the toilet removed & replaced with more seating...
The 55 OSCar Sets on succession to SYD Trains will progressively replace the Stainless Steel A/C’d Silver C & K Set Trains which will progressively start being retired from 2023
When you said the H sets will replace the C and K sets, you’re wrong. It is actually the B sets that will replace the silver sets, the H sets are to ensure more capacity on the network.
Why have the toilets removed for ? The Oscar's once running in suburban services, would be very useful for longer trips in peak hours. To move passengers say from Central to MacArthur, Richmond to Berowra and other quite long suburban running trips. So the existing toilets should be left in these trains for the near future. A better and more sensible upgrade, would be to replace the seats with more comfort and back support. And to have proper footrests instead of having to apply some continuous pressure by a passengers feet to rest on.
Wow this is gonna make a difference of the rail
I love it there in Newcastle
I seen this train test running in South Korea
5:17 The First Fleet D Train In Service, Or Maybe Not
I'm not sure if it has entered service yet. I did see an article stating that it won't be in service until early next year now
@@JumbuckMedia Okay, And if It Does, Please Give Aussie Gacha A comment saying That It's In Service And Ask Him To Try That New Train
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@@AlexanderTheSimmer I'll make sure that I will.
gonna suck to see the v sets go
I don’t really like D sets but it’s good to see what other people think of it! It’s cool to see none the less.
I can't wait to get on it. There will be a review on it soon!
@@JumbuckMedia You should write to the government seeing if they would retain maybe 1 or 2 v sets for heritage reasons? I feel almost all of NSWs architectural history is gone because it's all knocked down.
@@OhKnow379 I think one set has been earmarked for preservation through HET
@@JumbuckMedia preservation in service or preservation in a nonfunctional museum?
@@OhKnow379 in service
New intercity fleet Nif masud Rana book series
Everyone knows why the line from Hamilton to Newcastle closed, the business owners of Newcastle offered Gladdy and the LNP lots of brown paper bags full of money as a bribe, also by the end of 2021, the line beyond Broadmeadow, the line south of Waterfall and the line west of Penrith and the line south west of Macarthur will also be closed......The light Rail was only build because more powerful people threatened to have the LNP lose the election if they did not do something to operate trains to Newcastle...........
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shiny but very bland design tho, looks like something that was designed by a "Karen" committee, zero personality or style. plastic galore, about as exciting as cheap IKEA furniture..
Almost like they were told not to stray far from the existing A/B set look