Thank you for giving such good detail. Being a novice, I need things spelled out pretty precisely! I also appreciated the explanations about the hot and fresh water tanks, how they're plumbed and how they operate together. It was very helpful!
I too watch this every year to makes sure I'm doing it right. Lucky for me my 2022 came with a bypass valve. I guess someone @ Aligner watches your videos. Thans again for the great content!
Good stuff, Rick. One addition - when you remove the anode from your water heater (use a 1-1/16" or 1-1/8" socket wrench), buy a clean out wand from Camco - it's a 10" plastic wand with a 45 degree bend at the end and a valve end that attaches to a garden hose. Insert it into the anode hole and turn on the water. You'd be surprised at how much junk flows out as you rotate the wand inside the water heater tank. Meantime, use a wire brush to remove those white calcified bits from the anode, and, unless you can see the steel center support rod inside the anode's zinc surface (in which case you replace it), insert the anode back into the water heater tank and leave it loose until spring. This keeps small critters out of the tank.
Always a sad time when we have to put our camper up for the winter. Enjoyed camping with you and the boys Rick. Will be looking forward to new adventures next year.
I gave up using my water pump or connecting directly to city water, when I discovered that the plastic nozzles or couplers, or whatever they are called which connect the water lines to the water heater were continually coming loose and I would find water dripping out the back corner of my A-liner Ranger 12 and there would be water on the floor where the hot water heater and potable tank was. No matter how often I tightened those couplers, they would come loose again. Since my bed was directly over it, it was a hassle to lift up the board and check the connections all the time.
Gosh, that is a pain in the neck. Did you try wrapping the threads in teflon tape to give it more hold? Or even try some locktite. Better than no water at all. But truthfully, I haven’t used my hot water in my Ainer, but once in three years.
I live year round in an Aliner. I keep the hot water heater off when it gets cold, and drain the entire system prior to shutting it off to keep what I need in the tank. I've found that the water heater was creating a lot of my issues and losses. 10 gallons of water lasts me about 1.5 months just washing dishes, drinking some when I have to, etc... It's actually incredible what you will save not using the water heater at all. My furnace keeps the inside just above freezing when I am not home and keeps everything from freezing and cracking. There isn't that much work to it honestly. If you want to winterize it, just cycle the water out and keep the drains open for a couple weeks in decent weather and most if not all of the condensation will find its way out.
The place that freezes most often, that is never found until too late, is the little plastic bowl filter housing on the water pump. That will freeze and crack if the air inside temperature gets to about 25deg F. for longer than an hour. Yes, if you keep your water tank full, it will hold enough heat for a couple hours and protect the pump. But people drain the lines and never consider the pump. So if your using yours, your probably maintaining a temp inside the walls above freezing. But its when it gets stored for several weeks and a few days of temps below freezing will do the most damage. Glad to hear your getting the MAX use out of your Aliner! Thanks for the great comment
Your welcome !! Its pretty simple. The hard part is not to fill the hot water tank with 6 gallons of anti-freeze !! If you don't have a by-pass, get one installed !!
thanks for the info. I'm still learning, and anything I can find about it all is appreciated. the wife and I bought a colemen clipper in 2015. Luckily my brother knows about winterizing or I might have been in trouble last year. Keep it coming.
I have a play list that might be of help. Most of the stuff I have learned is there (Which isn't much really.) So check out the Aliner Playlist. Thanks for the comment !
+Edie Daley Thats exactly how I feel about it. You can never tell if someone mistyped the instructions or meant left when they said right. Video's are honest.. sometimes too much so.. but hey, only human !! De-Winterizing is definitely on the list !! Thanks for watching -
wHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT VALVE YOU PUT ON THE HOT WATER SIDE? DO YOU JUST DRAIN THE HOT WATER TANK AND LEAVE THE ROD IN SO THE ANTIFREEZE STAYS IN THERE AND IF SO DO YOU USE MORE ANTIFREEZE?
I'm still uncertain--after the winterizing sequence is done do I retain antifreeze in the tanks and lines by closing valves and drains or flush as much of the pink antifreeze out using the electric water pump?
Once the antifreeze has been pumped through the lines, you can pump it out as much as possible, just make sure that the last thing in the lines was the antifreeze and all the water has been removed.
Can you leave your valve in and put the bypass in? I'm looking to put a bypass in but don't want to remove my anode. If rather use the valve to empty water. Thanks
I had a valve to empty the Hot Water tank, but removed it to put in the bypass. You really should remove the anode every year just to see how it is doing. And replace it if worn, or replace at least every 2 years. There are different types of Anodes (Metals). Some work better in some waters, other don't. It is pretty east to pull the anode with a socket , much easier than crawling under the trailer and opening a valve that will dump a lot of water on you?!?!
Hello, I have a 2018 Aliner Expedition that we bought in January of this year. I watched and followed your de-winterizing video in April and it was easy. So now it is getting towards time to winterize. So why do you not want the antifreeze to go into the water heater? I have no idea if there is a bypass on it or not. How much of that gallon of antifreeze did you pour into your Aliner? Thank you for the answers. Ted
Boy, you hit me up at just the right time.... I have a video that will be posted Friday about winterizing and saving money and hassle on adding anti freeze to your water system. BUT, to answer your questions, I drain the Hot water tank to winterize it, and it only has a very small amount of water left in it. It will not hurt anything if it freezes. In fact it might clean the scale off the bottom. Just rinse well in the spring when you "De-winterize". So there is no reason to waste antifreeze by adding it to that 6 gallon tank. The Same is true about your main water tank. Unless it is full, freezing will not hurt as long as it has less than 1/2 inch of water in it (what would normally be in it after draining it from the floor drain). But since there isn't a good way to add antifreeze to your system except pouring it into the water tank, that is usually protected from freezing anyway. But the truth is, the parts that are most likely to be damaged from freezing are your water pump itself (Its cheap plastic), your sink faucet and shower faucets, and Sink Trap, and a very few plastic connectors if they are at the "low points" of the system. Some people just blow the Line clear with compressed air and tilt the trailer drastically up so all the water goes towards the shower or the tank. The problem (Risk) here is that the water pump filter screen will not dump its water that way and so will freeze and crack. Check out this video Friday and see what I mean.... ruclips.net/video/wFIIdil4uUw/видео.html
Ted, i saw your post to Rick regarding winterizing your Aliner. We have a 2018 expedition. I cannot figure out what drains are under the camper. Both lines are blue. One has a cap that easily twists off. The other i can't budge it is the farthest in the rear of the trailer. It has a cap and a metal ring around it. When i turn it the whole thing turns. Is this the the point drain? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Denise
Thank you for giving such good detail. Being a novice, I need things spelled out pretty precisely! I also appreciated the explanations about the hot and fresh water tanks, how they're plumbed and how they operate together. It was very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!! Take good care of it and it will bring you a lot of smiles!!
I just stopped by again for a refresher.Thanks for being generous.
Ha ha ha.. I had to watch this last week myself to remember how I did it !! LOL
I too watch this every year to makes sure I'm doing it right. Lucky for me my 2022 came with a bypass valve. I guess someone @ Aligner watches your videos. Thans again for the great content!
lol, Yes they do.
Good stuff, Rick. One addition - when you remove the anode from your water heater (use a 1-1/16" or 1-1/8" socket wrench), buy a clean out wand from Camco - it's a 10" plastic wand with a 45 degree bend at the end and a valve end that attaches to a garden hose. Insert it into the anode hole and turn on the water. You'd be surprised at how much junk flows out as you rotate the wand inside the water heater tank.
Meantime, use a wire brush to remove those white calcified bits from the anode, and, unless you can see the steel center support rod inside the anode's zinc surface (in which case you replace it), insert the anode back into the water heater tank and leave it loose until spring. This keeps small critters out of the tank.
I'm willing to bet you don't do that amount of cleaning on your home water heater?
Always a sad time when we have to put our camper up for the winter. Enjoyed camping with you and the boys Rick. Will be looking forward to new adventures next year.
I gave up using my water pump or connecting directly to city water, when I discovered that the plastic nozzles or couplers, or whatever they are called which connect the water lines to the water heater were continually coming loose and I would find water dripping out the back corner of my A-liner Ranger 12 and there would be water on the floor where the hot water heater and potable tank was. No matter how often I tightened those couplers, they would come loose again. Since my bed was directly over it, it was a hassle to lift up the board and check the connections all the time.
Gosh, that is a pain in the neck. Did you try wrapping the threads in teflon tape to give it more hold? Or even try some locktite. Better than no water at all. But truthfully, I haven’t used my hot water in my Ainer, but once in three years.
I live year round in an Aliner. I keep the hot water heater off when it gets cold, and drain the entire system prior to shutting it off to keep what I need in the tank. I've found that the water heater was creating a lot of my issues and losses. 10 gallons of water lasts me about 1.5 months just washing dishes, drinking some when I have to, etc... It's actually incredible what you will save not using the water heater at all. My furnace keeps the inside just above freezing when I am not home and keeps everything from freezing and cracking. There isn't that much work to it honestly. If you want to winterize it, just cycle the water out and keep the drains open for a couple weeks in decent weather and most if not all of the condensation will find its way out.
The place that freezes most often, that is never found until too late, is the little plastic bowl filter housing on the water pump. That will freeze and crack if the air inside temperature gets to about 25deg F. for longer than an hour. Yes, if you keep your water tank full, it will hold enough heat for a couple hours and protect the pump. But people drain the lines and never consider the pump. So if your using yours, your probably maintaining a temp inside the walls above freezing. But its when it gets stored for several weeks and a few days of temps below freezing will do the most damage. Glad to hear your getting the MAX use out of your Aliner! Thanks for the great comment
Thanks Rick! I'm new to my camper and had a buddy help me last year (my first year). I'll try this tomorrow!
Your welcome !! Its pretty simple. The hard part is not to fill the hot water tank with 6 gallons of anti-freeze !! If you don't have a by-pass, get one installed !!
thanks for the info. I'm still learning, and anything I can find about it all is appreciated.
the wife and I bought a colemen clipper in 2015. Luckily my brother knows about winterizing or I might have been in trouble last year.
Keep it coming.
I have a play list that might be of help. Most of the stuff I have learned is there (Which isn't much really.) So check out the Aliner Playlist. Thanks for the comment !
Whoops, sorry "Coachmen" Clipper..
Thanks SO much! I hope you'll do a dewinterizing video in the Spring. It's much easier than reading about it.
+Edie Daley Thats exactly how I feel about it. You can never tell if someone mistyped the instructions or meant left when they said right. Video's are honest.. sometimes too much so.. but hey, only human !! De-Winterizing is definitely on the list !! Thanks for watching -
wHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT VALVE YOU PUT ON THE HOT WATER SIDE? DO YOU JUST DRAIN THE HOT WATER TANK AND LEAVE THE ROD IN SO THE ANTIFREEZE STAYS IN THERE AND IF SO DO YOU USE MORE ANTIFREEZE?
Thanks for these videos. Very helpful!
My Pleasure, Thanks for stopping by and leaving me a nice comment !
I'm still uncertain--after the winterizing sequence is done do I retain antifreeze in the tanks and lines by closing valves and drains or flush as much of the pink antifreeze out using the electric water pump?
Once the antifreeze has been pumped through the lines, you can pump it out as much as possible, just make sure that the last thing in the lines was the antifreeze and all the water has been removed.
@@GoingNoWhereFast Thank you for your expertise. Very helpful.
@@EXPLORETHEWORLDful Always my pleasure !!
Can you leave your valve in and put the bypass in? I'm looking to put a bypass in but don't want to remove my anode. If rather use the valve to empty water. Thanks
I had a valve to empty the Hot Water tank, but removed it to put in the bypass. You really should remove the anode every year just to see how it is doing. And replace it if worn, or replace at least every 2 years. There are different types of Anodes (Metals). Some work better in some waters, other don't. It is pretty east to pull the anode with a socket , much easier than crawling under the trailer and opening a valve that will dump a lot of water on you?!?!
Can you please tell me where you bought your sink faucet. I really like it. Mine is broke.
It is the original that came with the trailer, But they sell them even on Amazon. Or Camping World also has very similar ones
@@GoingNoWhereFast thank you so much!
Hello, I have a 2018 Aliner Expedition that we bought in January of this year. I watched and followed your de-winterizing video in April and it was easy. So now it is getting towards time to winterize.
So why do you not want the antifreeze to go into the water heater? I have no idea if there is a bypass on it or not.
How much of that gallon of antifreeze did you pour into your Aliner?
Thank you for the answers.
Ted
Boy, you hit me up at just the right time.... I have a video that will be posted Friday about winterizing and saving money and hassle on adding anti freeze to your water system. BUT, to answer your questions, I drain the Hot water tank to winterize it, and it only has a very small amount of water left in it. It will not hurt anything if it freezes. In fact it might clean the scale off the bottom. Just rinse well in the spring when you "De-winterize". So there is no reason to waste antifreeze by adding it to that 6 gallon tank. The Same is true about your main water tank. Unless it is full, freezing will not hurt as long as it has less than 1/2 inch of water in it (what would normally be in it after draining it from the floor drain). But since there isn't a good way to add antifreeze to your system except pouring it into the water tank, that is usually protected from freezing anyway.
But the truth is, the parts that are most likely to be damaged from freezing are your water pump itself (Its cheap plastic), your sink faucet and shower faucets, and Sink Trap, and a very few plastic connectors if they are at the "low points" of the system. Some people just blow the Line clear with compressed air and tilt the trailer drastically up so all the water goes towards the shower or the tank. The problem (Risk) here is that the water pump filter screen will not dump its water that way and so will freeze and crack. Check out this video Friday and see what I mean.... ruclips.net/video/wFIIdil4uUw/видео.html
Ted, i saw your post to Rick regarding winterizing your Aliner. We have a 2018 expedition. I cannot figure out what drains are under the camper. Both lines are blue. One has a cap that easily twists off. The other i can't budge it is the farthest in the rear of the trailer. It has a cap and a metal ring around it. When i turn it the whole thing turns. Is this the the point drain? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Denise
My comment was about Dewinterizing. Since then, I have had the Aliner dealership do the winterizing and dewinterizing.