Is it impossible to be private online?

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  • Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
  • Every time I talk about privacy online, the pessimists always come out. "It's impossible to have any online privacy." "They've already collected so much data about you. Why bother?" Is it really well and truly over? Or are there actually good reasons to still care about online privacy in the age of surveillance capitalism?
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    0:00 Intro
    0:48 It's over
    3:08 "You'll never have total privacy online."
    5:49 "They've already collected so much data about you."
    6:41 Privacy goes mainstream
    9:08 Under the influence
    9:32 Why pessimism fails
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  • @ChrisIsEditing
    @ChrisIsEditing Месяц назад +1123

    The fact people dont care about their online privacy is the exact reason why these companies getting away with violating it in the first place

    • @2failepic
      @2failepic Месяц назад +32

      People do care, but no one reads the obfuscated User Agreements before using an APP/ Website / Operating System. So most live in ignorance.

    • @angelarrocchistarepost
      @angelarrocchistarepost Месяц назад +2

      True.

    • @xCheddarB0b42x
      @xCheddarB0b42x Месяц назад +25

      A contributing factor is a lack of education on how these technologies work.

    • @Atops93
      @Atops93 Месяц назад +1

      That is so true.

    • @udaysingh9_11
      @udaysingh9_11 Месяц назад +10

      ​@@2failepicNot really. I have come across people who say we can't do anything or they'll say you're not paying so you'll have to pay with your data

  • @ZanyCat
    @ZanyCat Месяц назад +762

    "What happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone"
    Those iCloud pictures you deleted 8 months ago: "Correct!"

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  Месяц назад +140

      I just heard about that before posting this video haha

    • @TrainerClint
      @TrainerClint Месяц назад +7

      @@EricMurphyxyz will you make a video on that ?

    • @ScarfaceLittlebee-mj2ch
      @ScarfaceLittlebee-mj2ch Месяц назад

      @@TrainerClintthere will be no need

    • @rishil6491
      @rishil6491 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@EricMurphyxyz hell has broken loose cuz of that

    • @RottenFishbone
      @RottenFishbone Месяц назад +21

      @@TrainerClint There really isn't much to report on since its all just hearsay from Reddit.
      It would be great to debunk Apple's claims of "We pinky promise we're good guys" but relying on a text post on Reddit is pretty shakey.

  • @InternetSlavicMan
    @InternetSlavicMan Месяц назад +657

    i think at this point it's about minimizing the amount of data collected rather than trying to stop it entirely.

    • @sussteve226
      @sussteve226 Месяц назад +12

      Exactly.

    • @Sasha-zw9ss
      @Sasha-zw9ss Месяц назад +65

      Not just that, but also separating "sensitive" data from the rest of your life and exercising more caution with it.

    • @xCheddarB0b42x
      @xCheddarB0b42x Месяц назад +5

      Exactly right.

    • @luimu
      @luimu Месяц назад +4

      Is the sacrifice in convenience really worth it?

    • @InternetSlavicMan
      @InternetSlavicMan Месяц назад +29

      @@luimu yes, it is

  • @TheSaival
    @TheSaival Месяц назад +258

    To be honest I tried going full schizo for a time because I was so engaged with idea of privacy and its REALLY HARD. I dont get why people often laugh at doxxed or darknet people opsec "ohh he got caught the most basic way ever lelelelel". Like its not a matter if you slip up - its a matter when. Internet is a daily part of our life that we do most of it on autopilot and you are bound to make mistakes. I still try to keep myself as private as possible but being 100% private would probably require a team of people working and double checking every single decision and time you do anything on the internet.

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  Месяц назад +73

      Same, I think a lot of people go full schizo at least for a while. Not sustainable for the long term though without losing your sanity

    • @june570
      @june570 Месяц назад +11

      the wolf only needs enough luck to find you once

    • @chrismay2298
      @chrismay2298 Месяц назад +7

      @@EricMurphyxyz You just gotta quit worrying about that sanity stuff. It's overrated anyway...

    • @TANOCHOA
      @TANOCHOA Месяц назад +9

      @@chrismay2298not realistic when you have a family. Let's not push a unrealistic narrative.

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru Месяц назад

      Not worth your sanity, unless you do something shady

  • @mjc0961
    @mjc0961 Месяц назад +269

    "If you aren't paying for the product, you are the product" isn't even true anymore. Even when we do pay for the product, you are the product. I have a $1000+ TV that I don't connect to the Internet, otherwise LG will start collecting all my data. I pay for cell phone service and Verizon still collects as much data as they can. Cars are one of the most expensive things you can buy and even they are collecting your data for the benefit of the manufacturer even though the car cost 10s of thousands of dollars.
    We're the product regardless of whether we paid or not. This sucks.

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 Месяц назад +1

      Also I stopped using Brave search because it wouldn't show me the results until I let it use my device for "proof of work" first. Bollocks to that. Using DuckDuckGo now.

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx Месяц назад +2

      Yup, the carrier knows plenty of what you do - but Google and Apple and Facebook also know plenty, in some cases, even more.

    • @Insert_Bland_Name_Here
      @Insert_Bland_Name_Here Месяц назад +11

      In the case of cars, I would be willing to accept that the car collects data, if it was for diagnostic purposes in case something goes wrong. Kinda like the flight recorder on a plane. Being able to look at the data and see what you were doing when the car's engine failed, for instance, would be of tremendous help to the mechanic as well as the manufacturer, as the mechanic would be able to fix the car more easily, and the manufacturer could improve their design to make it more robust and safe for the driver. Unfortunately, that's not why cars gather data. They do it because greed.

    • @Gigachad-mc5qz
      @Gigachad-mc5qz Месяц назад +2

      You can make it so the tv can only connect to one service and no other. In your router settings.

    • @Raxyz_0
      @Raxyz_0 Месяц назад +4

      The inverse is true now. Not paying is usually the only way to not be a product anymore. Although admittedly, it's a different kind of "not paying".

  • @PenguinBrick
    @PenguinBrick Месяц назад +110

    I was actually pessimistic about being more private bc of the "They've already collected so much data" argument floating in my head, and that "changing the locks" argument makes sense to me. I mean... i have a 10+ Year old Google account and 15Y Microsoft account, so there's a lot of data, but... it makes sense! I can protect myself from other shady people and refuse to give MORE to those companies. After all, we've reached such times where we cannot escape the online world.

    • @linkfreeman1998
      @linkfreeman1998 Месяц назад +1

      Maybe where u live can't, but but there are some parts in the world where u can forget about using tech at all...sadly those kind of places are getting fewer and fewer.

  • @Dexxenyr
    @Dexxenyr Месяц назад +25

    friends always say something like "ive got nothing to hide" and im like, i got nothing to share either xd

  • @2failepic
    @2failepic Месяц назад +81

    2:37 I don't hate the company who 'sells' the TV in exchange for User Data. Because all other TV companys just sell you a TV for money and sell your Data on top in secrecy.
    At least that company is honest with it's customers.

  • @mr.fhizzy
    @mr.fhizzy Месяц назад +183

    Everyone should care about their privacy.

  • @whiteboard_Life
    @whiteboard_Life Месяц назад +95

    if you want privacy, create a new identity. It's way harder to delete old identity, but always easier to start fresh

    • @robster7787
      @robster7787 Месяц назад +30

      Or better yet, scramble the existing data with false data.

    • @wedoalittletrolling723
      @wedoalittletrolling723 Месяц назад

      What if you have shared your real life look and interests?

    • @whiteboard_Life
      @whiteboard_Life Месяц назад

      @@wedoalittletrolling723 you are creating someone that’s not exist so shouldn’t matter unless you violate some OpSec practices. Like transfer the bitcoin you get from the darknet, into your robinhood account which link to your bank account or bragging it with your friend and family

    • @asdfghyter
      @asdfghyter Месяц назад

      @@wedoalittletrolling723 then that info will keep existing, but you don't have to add any new data to it if you only give data into your new identities in the future

    • @user-nt2ly8be9f
      @user-nt2ly8be9f Месяц назад

      @@robster7787 your reply is interesting i think i have heared of it before, if you know more will you elaborate on it.

  • @Voskos
    @Voskos Месяц назад +8

    The most "paranoid" thing I've done for privacy lately is that I made my smartwatch work offline, that means I removed the pair from my device, so it doesn't send data to any application, I delete my account from the application I was forced to download and use to set up the watch and now it is just in on my wrist and shows me calories I burnt and how much I walked but big companies doesn't get that data.
    But I generally start to go through my phone and delete accounts from apps I don't use anymore and the uninstall them after

  • @Speedy4417
    @Speedy4417 Месяц назад +44

    Having my parents say “If you have nothing to hide, why worry?” When it comes to privacy, it’s honestly sad to see that me taking my privacy seriously at all makes me come across as a criminal to them. And no, they’re not old people, infact, I’m still in the education system. I wish it would be possible to care about your own privacy without being seen as a drug dealer or something

    • @noobynoob138
      @noobynoob138 Месяц назад +11

      I don't lock the bathroom door because it's illegal to take a shit. It's the same concept with online privacy.

    • @miltown3920
      @miltown3920 Месяц назад

      they should just ban free speech too cuz they have nothing to say

    • @Lee-wh3ht
      @Lee-wh3ht Месяц назад

      Humans aren’t smart and their goal is to control you maybe it has nothing to do with what you propose

  • @hangukhiphop
    @hangukhiphop Месяц назад +20

    I see privacy as an economic statement. If our data is so valuable, they should be paying us for it, full stop. Making apps free isn't enough. If most users would adopt this policy, it might force the companies' hand into paying us all. Either that, or the big companies will double down and get their cronies to write laws forcing our hand, instead. I'm willing to take that gamble.

    • @yomammasaurusrex9571
      @yomammasaurusrex9571 Месяц назад +7

      You are getting paid in the form of convenient services. It doesn't make practical sense for them to pay you cash just to get nothing-data like "this guy likes when we give him cash for the sake of learning that he likes when we give him cash"

    • @MrHjacky
      @MrHjacky Месяц назад +1

      The profit may sound big in collective number (millions billions etc), but when divided by the number of users it becomes mere pittance of several cents/dollars 😂 that most wouldn't bother going through the process to collect 😂

    • @hangukhiphop
      @hangukhiphop Месяц назад

      @@MrHjacky why are you factoring in only profits? This ain't no tax season lol. And some of us generate more data than others.This ain't no class action lawsuit either 🤣

    • @hangukhiphop
      @hangukhiphop Месяц назад +2

      @@yomammasaurusrex9571 "Getting paid in the form of convenient services" I bet that boot tastes convenient too lmfao. microsoft products are known for being especially convenient

  • @Yomush
    @Yomush Месяц назад +18

    It might be "impossible" to be 100% private online, but that doesn't mean you should just give up and give up all your data. The least you can do is make the companies work for your data instead of getting it by default and minimize what you're giving. Not much I can add to what was already said in the video so i'll just ask anyone who bothered to read my comment:
    Would you want to live in a completely transparent house where everything you do can be seen by everyone else regardless if you like it or not? If not then you should start to care about your privacy online.

  • @StormKnight1
    @StormKnight1 Месяц назад +21

    Not caring about privacy is like saying I don't care about free speech because I have nothing to say... For now.

  • @MrJay1El
    @MrJay1El Месяц назад +6

    There's this general philosophy which, for me, can be applied to all aspects of life.
    "It's not about defeating evil. It's about opposing it as much as you can"
    We can't truly stop it. We can't make it disappear. But this doesn't mean we should just allow it to run free. If we do, it may grow too big and do way too much harm.
    So we should do what we can to keep it in check. Keep it from growing too much. I believe this works with internet privacy (and other potentially harmful uses of technology such as AI), corruption in the government, greedy corporations, everything.

    • @maxz69
      @maxz69 Месяц назад

      Wow, well put

  • @abaddon1371
    @abaddon1371 Месяц назад +7

    For privacy search engines, there is also french based Qwant. Since it is based in France, it is bound by the EU data law, which is much stricter than just about anywhere outside of EU. Qwant does have ads (for those not using an adblocker) but they are never targeted ads, since they don't collect data from you. You also have to enable a special cookie in settings, in order for Qwant to remember your search history, otherwise it will automatically delete your history upon closure of Qwant. It also have a kid friendly version, which will automatically exclude a lot of content not meant for kids, so they have a much harder time happen upon content they weren't meant to see.

  • @salvaje1
    @salvaje1 Месяц назад +8

    I always ask such people: If you were showering and noticed someone was peeping through the window or a hidden camera, would you just ignore it?

  • @sprinklednights
    @sprinklednights Месяц назад +65

    I think the most important part about internet privacy is also the isolation of service. You can just close RUclips if you don't use it, or you can just use another web browser to separate it from your other web browser uses, and by using Linux, this becomes incredibly possible to just do that because generally speaking, Linux doesn't track you, and you can do your work without the fear of your privacy.

    • @TheSaival
      @TheSaival Месяц назад +3

      there is an addon that isolates your internet browsing, multiple containers

    • @xCheddarB0b42x
      @xCheddarB0b42x Месяц назад +8

      There are ways to make RUclips forget who you are:
      - new browser (mullvad)
      - on a new OS (parrot linux VM)
      - connected to a VPN (proton)
      - under a new account (novel proton email persona)
      Congrats, you're "new" and they don't know you. The algorithmic weights do not yet exist on your new account. You can now start searching whatever you want that novel persona to be interested in.

    • @whoman0385
      @whoman0385 Месяц назад +6

      ​@@xCheddarB0b42xwhy parrot linux? Theres so many other more stable options that have the same level of privacy

    • @hastyscorpion
      @hastyscorpion Месяц назад +2

      ​@@xCheddarB0b42x I mean yeah you can do that but at that point you may as well just stop watching RUclips. Part of the selling point of RUclips is that it can cull down an infinite amount of videos into one's you would actually want to watch. If you are always on a new account RUclips is a pretty bad website.

    • @xCheddarB0b42x
      @xCheddarB0b42x Месяц назад +2

      @@hastyscorpion a new YT account can be trained in under a day.

  • @234245
    @234245 Месяц назад +56

    last time i was this early the farms were still on TOR

  • @user-ug5pj6lp7m
    @user-ug5pj6lp7m Месяц назад +8

    I want to confess I was a privacy doomer myself and thought that achieving privacy was impossible, but just like it was said, it's not a binary but a spectrum, and thanks to you I understand this better now. I will try to make a more privacy-friendly presence now. Cheers!

  • @cyan_galaxy
    @cyan_galaxy Месяц назад +20

    I think one of the problems is that people that think that this subject doesn't matter seems to be that same people that don't care about politics. But this is an inherent political conversation

    • @sheepriderkiller1181
      @sheepriderkiller1181 Месяц назад

      i don't care which party wins as long as they care about everyone individually because only caring about majority and ignoring the minority is not a good way to create the heaven

  • @SEB1991SEB
    @SEB1991SEB Месяц назад +2

    It's like saying "Well I can never be 100% healthy, there's always more I could do, and nothing's gonna stop the ageing process anyway. So I may as well just binge eat and never exercise and drink and smoke all I want". Just like with health, if you take just a few basic steps, you can be like 80% private no problem, which is good enough (if you think in terms of grades, it's like an A or a B).

  • @KaosDeathLord
    @KaosDeathLord Месяц назад +17

    Well after the announcement of Recall people are quitting Windows.

    • @azieg9ygeb
      @azieg9ygeb Месяц назад

      What is revall?

    • @azieg9ygeb
      @azieg9ygeb Месяц назад +1

      What is that?

    • @KaosDeathLord
      @KaosDeathLord Месяц назад

      @@azieg9ygeb trains AI by taking screenshots in stuff but apparently people are freaking out over nothing as it's only on Copilot

    • @4thwallbreaker843
      @4thwallbreaker843 Месяц назад

      @@azieg9ygeb Windows 11 AI that is practically a surveillance service that collects user's data from the OS itself.

    • @playlist5455
      @playlist5455 Месяц назад

      Yup. Time to move to Linux.

  • @riverblack123
    @riverblack123 Месяц назад +60

    Saying freedom can live without privacy is like saying people can live without oxygen

    • @sheepriderkiller1181
      @sheepriderkiller1181 Месяц назад +9

      actually it's saying "it's like living without clothes" and people can do that, the only issue is other people telling them to dress up or get arrested for indecent exposure

    • @yomammasaurusrex9571
      @yomammasaurusrex9571 Месяц назад

      Privacy as a concept getting phased out is an overall boon for humanity. Who wants to live in a world of shame and ignorance

    • @Mayhzon
      @Mayhzon Месяц назад +2

      @@yomammasaurusrex9571
      You're entirely misconcepted about this.
      Shame will still exist and will be exploited more than ever before against you, as any info can be held against you.

    • @demondeity9816
      @demondeity9816 Месяц назад

      Lack of privicy is the main tool to exploit shame.
      Your utopia would be the most ignorant it can possibly be. ​@@yomammasaurusrex9571

    • @yomammasaurusrex9571
      @yomammasaurusrex9571 Месяц назад

      @Mayhzon you're not thinking big picture enough. With the phasing out of privacy comes a general open mindedness alongside it. Both are required to progress in tandem, as they directly influence one another.

  • @mkhud50n
    @mkhud50n Месяц назад +3

    “I don’t have anything to hide” - extremely naive people with little to no knowledge of history.

  • @Nurse_Xochitl
    @Nurse_Xochitl Месяц назад +9

    Firefox is not private, but Librewolf is better.

    • @Kettey
      @Kettey 16 дней назад

      Comparing to most of the browsers, it's one of most private one on the market

  • @justinbishop9584
    @justinbishop9584 Месяц назад +2

    almost never hear anyone talk about start page but I love it! thanks for mentioning it

  • @iheartlreoy8134
    @iheartlreoy8134 Месяц назад +9

    How to privately enjoy sonichu on TAILS OS

    • @ngx3649
      @ngx3649 Месяц назад +1

      You don't need to tell me twice but during the stone age

  • @vishaldinesh
    @vishaldinesh Месяц назад +3

    Holy shit, I've been watching you for months if not a year and never realised that I'm not subscribed.

  • @rd-um4sp
    @rd-um4sp Месяц назад +1

    yeah. The analogy I make whenever I hear the "just give up" people is the car theft one. The internet is like a street where the content of your car are stolen very frequently but you have to park there.
    Just because the probability of having things stolen is very high does not mean I'm gonna leave my car open. Will it avoid a theft? No, but it'll make it harder. And that's the best I can do.

  • @domojestic4155
    @domojestic4155 Месяц назад +2

    Just wanted to drop in and say that your videos have gotten excellent lately. Well-researched, level-headed, and much more *empathetic* than a lot of other videos can be. I'm going to be in a position of leadership at a local community focused on open-source and privacy soon, and your videos (and the resources you cite) will definitely be very helpful in collecting data to do presentations and such. Do keep it up!

  • @Firepotz
    @Firepotz Месяц назад +3

    I've often thought about a service or app that pollutes your data stream to big tech. Automatically, in the background sends erroneous logins, garbage searches, fake location data, random interests, etc. If enough people had such a service running it would degrade the data big tech holds to the point that it becomes useless costing them money and reputation. Would this be possible?

  • @Azure_dragon0
    @Azure_dragon0 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks bro, for the awareness ❤

  • @xCheddarB0b42x
    @xCheddarB0b42x Месяц назад +2

    Very reasonable takes for this interesting period in time. Thank you. Subbed.

  • @playlist5455
    @playlist5455 Месяц назад +1

    I want as few companies having my personal information because of hackers stealing info from those companies. If/when the companies get hacked, I don't want my data that they have of me being used to steal my identity/scam my friends.
    So many examples of stolen info being used nefariously out there. It's a pain to deal with cleaning up the mess when it happens.

  • @bareback_3000
    @bareback_3000 Месяц назад +17

    WHO USES FACEBOOK

  • @pictograph
    @pictograph Месяц назад +1

    I am somewhere between Privacy-Conscious and the Activist, but there is so much more to learn. I subscribed and thank you so much!

  • @Cyberfoxxy
    @Cyberfoxxy Месяц назад +1

    We are now at a point where coffee shops will refuse to sell you coffee unless you cough up the phone number first.

  • @keithbrannon251
    @keithbrannon251 Месяц назад

    Thanks, I was able to add a few more things to my library because of this video. Appreciate it.

  • @impetuosity3381
    @impetuosity3381 Месяц назад +4

    Free phones, computers, etc will be the new meta soon so long as you give up data.

  • @SpringySpring04
    @SpringySpring04 Месяц назад +2

    The fact that ridiculously precise government surveillance is actually real is terrifying. Literally every big tech corp is just spying on all of us all the time... Sometimes I wonder if that 2011 TV series "Person of Interest" is actually real. (Very good show, by the way)

  • @nwordfword8073
    @nwordfword8073 Месяц назад +1

    I personally don’t care about my online privacy as much as I should realistically. I’m just pretty annoyed that even with all this data they have on me they still give me the most dog shit ads 😅

  • @Khrada
    @Khrada 22 дня назад

    Thank you for saying this. It is not all hopeless. We just have to do as much as we can.

  • @Warlordjoker2394
    @Warlordjoker2394 Месяц назад

    You just earned a new subscriber my friend. Great video! I think for a lot of people it's easy to get pessimistic about things, but I feel like there are certain things we can do to take privacy back into our own hands and I think it starts with general operational security practices

  • @Bullminator
    @Bullminator Месяц назад +2

    Giving them wortless data and overloading them is a good strategy. We need to make a addon that spams google with as much wortless data as possible.

  • @Tenebris8444
    @Tenebris8444 Месяц назад

    I really loved your last portion of the video and gives me the juice I need. thanks

  • @neowave777
    @neowave777 Месяц назад +1

    love your voice eric and keep up the videos! thank you for voicing this

  • @deebo821
    @deebo821 Месяц назад

    This video is such a breath of fresh air. I'm subscribing.

  • @zine_eddinex24
    @zine_eddinex24 Месяц назад +4

    Normies : what's is privacy ?

  • @JudoP_slinging
    @JudoP_slinging Месяц назад

    This is a very important message to get out to people. You have it exactly right that people see it black and white. This doubt that lurks that someone is going to crack your privacy, no matter how much effort you go to just poisons any effort to improve things. I bet people would care a whole lot more if they felt they could actually achieve something.

  • @Dionysor
    @Dionysor Месяц назад

    thanks for the upload. my insecurities begin with the fact that my ISP knows who i am and where i live, so i just let go. either way i detest the tracking ads business and try not to throw food their way by ticking every box on ublock origin. who doesn't love ticking boxes?

  • @Heldn100
    @Heldn100 Месяц назад +11

    Yeah sure there's no way to be %100 hidden... But that's don't mean you should give it to everyone...

    • @ScarfaceLittlebee-mj2ch
      @ScarfaceLittlebee-mj2ch Месяц назад

      There is

    • @Visquint
      @Visquint Месяц назад

      there are ways to be 100% hidden, just not for long

    • @nex-is-lost
      @nex-is-lost Месяц назад

      Yeah. You'll just give up as I did 😢​@@Visquint

    • @Heldn100
      @Heldn100 Месяц назад

      @@ScarfaceLittlebee-mj2ch
      not really

    • @Heldn100
      @Heldn100 Месяц назад

      @@Visquint i dont think there is way for that, they create the system and device and net they can backdoor anything they want even one tool can do the job

  • @MorganEdgy
    @MorganEdgy Месяц назад

    You've released banger after banger.
    Kudos

  • @jasonkelley4057
    @jasonkelley4057 Месяц назад

    I currently work in finance and have worked in tech. I promise that most people have no idea what the level of surveillance is. Do you use a debut card, credit card, own property, or have a modern car? The internet extends into the "real world." There's no escaping it. We simply have to choose whom we're willing to trust with our information and what we're willing to live without. Modern life is a platform we all choose to live on.

  • @LuisPipoComunica
    @LuisPipoComunica Месяц назад

    Wow man, crazy hugely informative video!.
    Thanks man, you really made rethink my desicions and actions, not only regarding privacy.
    The point that you made at the of the video about doomers is really on spot and alson help me realize that all what matters regardless of the subject is that taking any kind of action IS better than taking NO action at all.
    Thanks man, God bless you.

  • @GregoryShtevensh
    @GregoryShtevensh Месяц назад +1

    Tb be fair, they tried to give away these TVs for $0, and still couldn't even get 1 million units "sold".
    500,000 sounds like a lot, but ut actually gives me more faith thatn youd think.
    Same with tiktok... I dont actually know anyone who uses it. So not everyone is unaware of these issues.

  • @Cretaal
    @Cretaal Месяц назад +2

    Look. If the algorithm had any clue about who I am, it would show me something relevant to my hobbies, lifestyle, or life goals. It's got my data alright, but I've made efforts to feed it vast swaths of false data, rendering the end product non-viable on my end. But I'm paranoid.

  • @CuteSkyler
    @CuteSkyler Месяц назад +2

    The same people complaining that privacy is impossible are the same people putting their full name, hometown, phone number, all their other social medias in their bios.

  • @sykoteddy
    @sykoteddy Месяц назад

    Thank you for making this video, let's just hope more mainstream people watch it. I started to work on my online privacy around 2012, before that I wasn't hopeless because I know a lot about how hackers and virus writers work. But the constant problem is to convince people near you to care about their privacy. Since I started paying for my Proton VPN/Mail I let my sister and mother use my account for VPN. The weird thing is that my mother that is over 65 is better at it than my little sister that is over 30. She told me that it is bothersome when streaming or whatever, you can't make everyone do it. She will probably realize this the hard way sometime in the future.
    What I use to say to try to convince people about privacy, is "what if hackers got hold of the information?" That is a VERY real scenario today!

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 Месяц назад

    Really great video, I must say! If people care, why are those privacy services are out there! There are people who care, and I highly respect that thanks to them we have those privacy focused tools, that are quite convenient as well!
    Thanks for it!

  • @johndoe-tf7yv
    @johndoe-tf7yv Месяц назад +1

    Great take. I'm pretty far to the right on the online privacy spectrum, de-googled phone all. I convince friends and family to make steps in the right direction, even if it's just using the a better messaging app or browser. It's important to touch on the difference between privacy and anonymity. Where you can't have privacy, you can usually have anonymity via burner accounts not associated with a real name/email/phone/ip. The apps will still collect usage info, but it's mostly useless to them because they can't associate the data with a real person.

    • @mr.sir.
      @mr.sir. 29 дней назад

      If you could elaborate on burner account, im interested

  • @nickrobbins7704
    @nickrobbins7704 Месяц назад +2

    Someone should tell him what Microsoft did with copilot...

  • @RedBoyforCE
    @RedBoyforCE Месяц назад +10

    Hey Eric! This is an awesome video and spoke to me in an unusual way. You see I am in the mindset of constantly freaking out on my data being not in my control. And then getting depressed about it that no matter what I do I won't be private. Because for eg. Microsoft will always find a way to invade it, and I have to do the cat and mouse game to disable (can't wait this new screenshoting feature they will shove into Windows... time to move to linux)
    What I amt trying to say is that this video gave me a peace of mind that I'm not alone and also my attempts are not futile in protecting my privacy. At 3:59 I felt this relief... the situation didn't get any better but my anxiety level dropped. I need to accept that perfect privacy for a normie does not exist (without sacrificing all) and my brain has to just chill. Keep up the good videos!

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  Месяц назад +3

      Glad it helped. I also had the same overwhelmed feeling when I first got into privacy, so I know where you're coming from.

    • @JudoP_slinging
      @JudoP_slinging Месяц назад +1

      Fear and uncertainty pervade the privacy community. Best not to get carried away and remember that most of these corps are filled with falliable people and systems, with a fair share of incompetence scattered in. Most of the fight is just beating or befuddling the dragnet as best you can, that's already equal or better than 95%+ of people. Forget about serious adversaries unless you have a job profile along the lines of major international criminal, you are a number among hundreds of millions, they don't have anything like the manpower or motivation to deep dive on every grain of sand on a beach.

    • @RedBoyforCE
      @RedBoyforCE Месяц назад +1

      @@JudoP_slinging wow! This was really poetic and reassuring! Thanks! 😊

  • @knaz7468
    @knaz7468 Месяц назад +1

    Snowden's "Permanent Record" book is quite enlightening. Never too late to pull back in your data.

  • @andrukthegreat
    @andrukthegreat Месяц назад +1

    Privacy should and must be a Feature of your device and OS. And you should want to Enable IT !!

  • @--.--
    @--.-- Месяц назад +2

    signal is not safe

  • @redlinkAS
    @redlinkAS Месяц назад +4

    The problem is the default apps, Chrome gets everything because it comes by default.
    If both Chrome and Brave were preinstall many people would choose Brave because of privacy. Not half but more than what it is now. (firefox is another story haha)

    • @kosmosXcannon
      @kosmosXcannon Месяц назад +2

      Which is ironic since isn't that what caused Microsoft to get hit with antitrust?

    • @junyaiwase
      @junyaiwase Месяц назад

      If you see this, (or anyone for that matter) what are your thoughts on FireFox? I personally think it is the best browser but Im down for feedback

    • @hardVatsuki
      @hardVatsuki Месяц назад

      many people would choose chrome because it is from google and they have some idea what google is, unlike brave which is god knows what. most people don't even come close to knowing about privacy as a concept, they have other things to attend to in their lives.

  • @DunkSouth
    @DunkSouth Месяц назад

    Excellent video, dude!

  • @astral6749
    @astral6749 Месяц назад +10

    4:15 Real normies doesn't use password managers and 2FA. Sometimes they don't even password protect their computer.

    • @lennywhere
      @lennywhere Месяц назад

      i heavily secure stuff online but don't have a password on bootscreen since there's other issues at hand if someone is breaking into my house lol

  • @spookyspyder434
    @spookyspyder434 Месяц назад +1

    My watching this on Brave: Fun isn't something one considers when protecting his privacy, but this, does put a smile on my face.

    • @pictograph
      @pictograph Месяц назад

      I'm still extremely suspicious of that browser and use firefox for the simple reason that it's built on chrome.

    • @tomasbenchat697
      @tomasbenchat697 Месяц назад

      using a more privacy focused browser is a step in the right direction but don't assume you appear as an anonymous person just becaused you are using a different app. Internet is full of trackers, cookies, links that contain any type of information. If we want to achieve true privacy then its going to take a lot more than just switch chrome for brave.

    • @tomasbenchat697
      @tomasbenchat697 Месяц назад

      @@pictograph chrome is not the same as chromium, which is the *open source* engine a lot of browsers use. Plus brave and firefox are from the same founder, same ideas, just that brave is even more privacy focused.

    • @spookyspyder434
      @spookyspyder434 Месяц назад

      @@tomasbenchat697 It does, and it’s worth the sacrifice. Brave should be an entry-level browser for the people who are starting to become privacy conscious.

  • @AlFasGD
    @AlFasGD Месяц назад

    I think that the greater problem is not protecting our own privacy, but having this situation in the current age. No matter how much everyone protects their own privacy, every surveilling entity could always enhance their mechanisms. So we would engage further down the surveillance war, and the clear winners will always be the surveillers. What do we do to get out of this war entirely is the question.

    • @rikkisan1
      @rikkisan1 Месяц назад

      Honestly as much as I hate to admit it, regulations and laws are the current answer. Look at the EU and how they are looking at these companies. I don't trust the government but hey you gotta fight with the tools you have.

  • @MarcoFlores-um7cj
    @MarcoFlores-um7cj Месяц назад +1

    Even if you care about privacy people around you don’t. They have your number because of them

  • @smuchapreciated1959
    @smuchapreciated1959 Месяц назад

    Great video! . Can you do a dive into "what are the reasons people want privacy"? When does it come into play? Getting targeted ads? Your social media data being used to (maybe wrongfully) be implicated in a crime and landing you in trouble you could habe avoided? Other risks? . And what are the data that have them away in these instances?

    • @smuchapreciated1959
      @smuchapreciated1959 Месяц назад

      I remember 1 more I heard about: car insurance getting bumped because car told manufacturer who told insurance that he drove too aggressively.

  • @obitouchiha1918
    @obitouchiha1918 2 дня назад

    Its not impossible but it is for a decent person. Because the head of state are such sore losers. I don't want to be upset all the time, I just want peace. 🙍🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @jodyjohnson265
    @jodyjohnson265 Месяц назад +1

    You can't even setup a brand new android device off line because Google is more weird about collecting your data and it's bs and I might just use the brave browser because the Google search engine is completely broken.

  • @iiisaac1312
    @iiisaac1312 Месяц назад +1

    Pessimism/Doomerism is a psychological defense mechanism to make apathy or doing nothing a 200 iq big brain Rick and Morty tier move. The people who say that is is "impossible" to be private online have no real logical justification for the statement because none of them really know how the internet works. I've written webserver backends in nodejs and php, and I've had these kinds of losers lecture me on "how the internet really works." This pessimism comes from feelings of inadequacy when they see other people actually take their data into their own hands when they chose not to. It is pure crab bucket mentality. Besides, most of these people have become addicted to sharing all their personal information online anyways through the use of internet upvotes.

  • @romefalls.
    @romefalls. Месяц назад

    I feel like this video was made for me very good points and analogies

  • @sgabriel5299
    @sgabriel5299 День назад

    Thanks for trying to make the world a better place

  • @user-fp7fs9xl2t
    @user-fp7fs9xl2t Месяц назад

    Great Content , Privacy community is growing ...

  • @mangodude-nq6su
    @mangodude-nq6su Месяц назад

    I formulated my privacy requirements like this: the corpos might know everything about me, but individuals won't. So, different password, different emails, different nicknames and almost no info in social media

  • @ADADM
    @ADADM Месяц назад

    Awesome Video!

  • @YannMetalhead
    @YannMetalhead Месяц назад

    I believe we're living in a shift in awareness; a few years back only us, basement dwellers, care about privacy. But nowadays even 'common' people are starting to care about it.

  • @greyman4425
    @greyman4425 Месяц назад

    Привет из России🙂
    Good channel. I had the same thoughts about futile attempts to maintain privacy, but after a while I was able to interest some of my friends and family members to use, for example, a private browser instead of Edge and OnlyOffice instead of standard Microsoft office applications. Yes, this is not a victory over corporations, but it is already a result in the right way.

  • @Ase_Base
    @Ase_Base Месяц назад +3

    Great video Eric. I would like to hear your thoughts about the new Copilot+ PCs.
    It's a data privacy nightmare in my opinion.

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  Месяц назад +3

      I wanna do a full video on how bad Microsoft is in the future, there's a lot to cover

    • @Ase_Base
      @Ase_Base Месяц назад

      @@EricMurphyxyz Nice 👍

  • @Anon287-
    @Anon287- Месяц назад

    “Electric eye, in the sky.
    “Feel my stare”, always there.”

  • @fryfly5599
    @fryfly5599 Месяц назад +1

    Don't forget to not buy newer cars if you care about your whereabouts not being tracked constantly. Most people are aware that their phones are spying on them, but I think cars are often overlooked.

  • @superkh12
    @superkh12 Месяц назад +1

    Me being a doomer really helped me focus on what I do online, tbh.
    Do I use privacy services and applications? Yes. Do I think they'll do anything? No, not really. It's only a matter of time before they change as well, but I don't mind changing to another one. It's just that I know that this "game" doesn't really have an end that's good for me. If I can just extend it a little longer, that's good enough for me. I know how it ends though.
    It's OK being a doomer.

  • @KaiSong-vv7wh
    @KaiSong-vv7wh Месяц назад +2

    well, it _is_ a black-or-white thing. Look at all the opsec failures in the past. If you spend one hour per day as extra effort to secure your privacy on that day, but ONCE in a lifetime break opsec in one moment, the all the automatic stuff immediately unravels: The one device is connected to the other; the one search profile is correlated to the other. So all you did was hopelessly in vain. Even in numbers: For each year that you conduct opsec for one hour per day, you are effectively dying one month earlier. That is severe certain damage to your life, whereas NSA or KGB or China will want to kill or scrutinize you only _maybe_.

  • @Carpt_Fish
    @Carpt_Fish Месяц назад

    i've never used really any social media because i never really felt like it but now i'm happy i haven't because now i'm more private then ever

  • @HunterEddie
    @HunterEddie Месяц назад

    Please upload more often Murphy

  • @TheSuperBoyProject
    @TheSuperBoyProject Месяц назад

    Email cannot be end to end encrypted. Best case scenario is that services like protonmail might encrypt emails within their domain (i.e. emails originating from protonmail and sent to another protonmail address). I understand the importance of privacy, but keep it within what's possible.

  • @desromic
    @desromic Месяц назад

    I made an effort to clean up my online presence years ago (plus some ongoing maintenance), and I have never had the experience of an ad being relevant to me. That's how I know it worked.

    • @JansHeikkinen
      @JansHeikkinen Месяц назад

      Why do you still have ads? Do you not use an adblocker?

  • @Taxskipper
    @Taxskipper Месяц назад +1

    You can’t even have an anonymous LLC anymore

    • @mr.sir.
      @mr.sir. 29 дней назад

      Very sad

  • @dialga236
    @dialga236 Месяц назад +3

    abt the privacy-focused browsers, wasnt duckduckgo caught tracking user data, or atleast something of the like, wouldnt that make ddg untrustable until it dies? genuine question, im not trying to be snarky or whatever.

  • @sallysbananenrepublik3740
    @sallysbananenrepublik3740 Месяц назад

    The meaning of privacy can also vary. I value web privacy more than app privacy because apps give you more control over what you want to share and what you don't. When you search for personal information on a browser, you are sometimes searching for very sensitive topics. These days, not using Google is pretty much a must. I also think people should use Signal and that you can use SMS for the people who don't want to switch.

  • @Mkrabs
    @Mkrabs Месяц назад +2

    "Apple is going the right direction"
    - because they were forced by GDPR
    End-to-end encryption is the same deal.
    And Proton only encrypts email is they're send between Proton users or of a GPG key has been set-up for every contact...
    I get what youre trying to say, but this is mostly just yapping about privacy.

  • @robster7787
    @robster7787 Месяц назад +1

    Privacy needs to be looked at differently in order to understand what it actually means.
    Basic info like name, sex/gender, age, etc will always be public either through direct visual observation or looking up relevant organization data such as sports activity in school.
    Thats not what privacy-versed people are always referring to. The focus on privacy pertains more on personal interests, activities, and daily knowledge. Stuff like that can be controlled to a degree.
    Best approach in my opinion is to scramble the data. Create contradictory info that blurs the facts from fiction.
    For example, don’t use your main email address in everything. Create alt email accounts for different types of activities. My online shopping account is completely different from my professional account. Keep a separate gap that has no connections to the main account.
    Its always the little things.

    • @playlist5455
      @playlist5455 Месяц назад

      Get a password manager, and you can track who got which email address and other data.

  • @fadate7292
    @fadate7292 Месяц назад +1

    Poison the public data.
    One small step is to use Briar.

  • @typicalhog
    @typicalhog Месяц назад +1

    Bro been posting banger vid after banger vid recently.