Zakk Wylde on Fight for His Life, Keeping Sober, Ozzy's Advice: Rise Above, Ep 3
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- In Revolver's video series "Rise Above," artists open up about the personal and creative adversity they've faced and reveal how they turn such struggles into art. In episode three, Black Label Society leader Zakk Wylde discusses how hard drinking almost took his life and how he found sobriety. See him recount the "animal house" years touring with Ozzy Osbourne and the pivotal moment when his health went downhill and his doctor told him he would die if he didn't make a radical change in his lifestyle - an experience that led the singer/guitarist to abide by a key piece of Ozzy wisdom and find the inner strength to stop drinking.
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I was a drunk for 23 years..
Sober for 3 years now and the change was hard at first but I feel better about life in general now.
Stay true zakk.
Respect for you brother.
hey marcus, hang in there bro.. longtime heroin/opiate junkie here. i get the appeal of the booze, a tanqueray gin and tonic with fresh lime is about as good as it gets in my book.. but honestly being sober is better..
Hope you're still goin strong bud.
@@jacobmilano1507 5years now brother
@@marcuspotts9095 hell yea man. Keep on keepin on. Ill be there one of these days.
That's quite an accomplishment for a 26 year old.
"you dont complain about it. You just do it. Like a fuckin man." that should be the takeaway from this imo.
You and Zakk are idiots.
i have to agree wildcat!
@@millennialssuck4411 So are millennials!
A-FUCKIN'-MEN!! Like the rest of us men do EVERY DAY!!
I love how Zakk always honors his roots: Ozzy, Dime, Rhoads, EVH, Hendrix.. I get the sense that he brings forward everything he learned from the boss man (Ozzy) into BLS. He's amazing.
Giving up cigarettes alcohol was the best thing I ever did in my life.. now I bodybuilding and skateboard. Live life
Damn bro that's what I exactly want to do. I'm 22 and currently struggling with drinking heavily. I also chew tobacco I'm tired of feeling like shit. Wish me luck.
@@jordanbenally4603 if you need luck I'll give you some
@@jordanbenally4603 I'm 34 and I've been sober 3 years, I feel like I've wasted the last ten years of my life! Don't make the same mistake. Get off the booze, do some exercise and eat well. It's that simple! Good luck!
Fuck yeah bro..congrats!! 🎆
Second chance at life. You won't get a third
No More Beers
😂
I see what you did there.
Jahahaha
To the top of the mountain with you!
Don't stop till you're over it!
I'm trying to get into rehab as I type this. I'm exhausted. I've lost my money, my will, everything. Watching this gave me some glimmer of hope.
How are things going? Message if you'd like. A friendly ear can help sometimes.
@@augtenth I'm still waiting man. Thanks for reaching out
@@johnnyb9218 How you doin man.
Hey you, yeah you. NEVER GIVE UP!
Sometimes its. One minute at a time.
I'm so Proud of those that successfully recover from alcoholism
Alcoholism is not illnes!
@@krystofcisar469 An illness? Maybe not. A sickness... certainly.
@@krystofcisar469 I dont know what your point is, beign adicted to alcohol and having your life revolve around alcohol is a " thing " if you want to name it something else or be fucking stupid go ahead. but dont downplay what millions of people have had to go though to survive this.
Hardest addiction of mine to beat.
I hope Zakk's words of wisdom helps those who struggle with alcohol addiction.
It helped me out. I'm two and a half years sober.
Not just with alcohol but with any addiction. You have to want to get clean. Nobody can do it for you
"You just fucking play...banged up...smashed up...you just play. And you dont complain about it you just do it. Like a fucking man." Greatest quote of all time from one of the greatest all time.
I'm happy he's sober. He was really pounding the booze for years. We need Zakk around. Metal needs Zakk. Guitar needs Zakk.
I was never an alcoholic, but I grew up around them. It wrecks your life. I may have partied too hard at times, but I never felt like I had to have it or I couldn't function or anything like that.
My hats off and total respect to those of you that quit. I imagine that it was quite hard to do for some of you. You're life is better for it. There are people that love you and depend on you. Do it for them. They need you.
Nothing cool about being an alcoholic. He made the right choice, his wife, his kids, life!
Robert Turner the first time I read your comment I thought it said "nothing wrong about being an alcoholic" and I thought huh...this guy is right. After reading it again, I'm not so sure.
I paid for a VIP Meet and Greet when Black Label Society came to Texas...I told Zakk I was going to a Veterans Hospital for PTSD and alcohol treatment program for 60 days... he gave me his cell phone number and told me to give me the address once i got there. He wrote me every week and sent me a cool BLS shirt with every letter. He's a good dude and the real deal. He's helped me stay sober with his "Pub's Closed" mentality. 1 year and 5 months sober today. You're right, there's nothing cool about being an alcoholic. Glad I quit.
I agree
@@metalhead9315 fuck an A dude, cool!!!!
Metal Head how goes it?
Life’s better without it no matter what, and I don’t miss it a bit.
1CAV 🤘🏻
(Iraq)
“Go light on the mustard” *does 10 pinch harmonics in one bar of music*
Squeal squeeal squeal squeeeeeeeal squeal.
Hell yea
Huh. Wtf u talkn bout !?
Love Zak .....but yes !!! To many pitch harmonics lol....love ya Zak!!!
More like 10 pints of Hennessy in one bar
2:44 Truer words have never been spoken.
indeed.
What if you are a female, Zakk?
Cassidy Van Sambeek
Chicks tend to go harder when it comes to big life decisions. So you gals don't need advice from Zakk Wylde.
@@CelestialSooth I would only disagree if you could live like a hermit and avoid alcohol. This guy will be surrounded by it and drugs. I agree that white knuckling it in that environment isn't a wise idea. Hope he takes James Hetfield route and bring family on tour to keep him accountable.
Zakk is a great storyteller. Not only music artist but word artist as well. It's like he's reading a well-written book when he speaks.
NJ and NYC helps a lot......
It seems like everything Zakk says is a joke, but there is a ton of wisdom and sincerity behind all that.
Andrew Hoel Zakk is pretty chill and cool guy, yet he's wise and mature. Love the guy as musician and person
It's serious that you own your life, and you still need a good sense of humour about your misfortunes and failings.
Easier to live when you find he humor in everything.
it‘s maybe the hat 😂☝️
Andrew Hoel he's a man... men do what it takes to get by....
"When it starts getting in the way of you ruling the world, that's when you have to say that's the end of this." Damn.
Have been a daily drinker for 6 years or so. Recently got through 9 days totally sober but fell back into it pretty hard. This made me break down and love myself again. Fuck addiction and especially Alcohol. Thanks Zakk.
How u feeling man you still off the sauce?
Zakk is one of the main reasons why I'm sober now. My other reason was that I wanted to get sober.
I had begun experimenting with staying sober by going certain periods of time before I cracked and fell off the wagon. I'd go a few days, fall, then a week, fall, then a couple of weeks, fall, then a few weeks, fall. Sometimes, I would fall back to every few days, then a week again, and then a couple of weeks, and then a few weeks again. At the end, I had 4 beers left from an 8 pack after a weekend of drinking (turned into three beers since i lost one in a cab ride home), and i said to myself, "After work tonight, I'm going to have one. Tomorrow night, I'm going to put down the last two, and that's going to be the end." That second night, I put down my last two, and I said to myself, "That's it. I'm done. The bar is closed. "
I finished the last of my two beers on June 9th, 12:30 a.m., 2021. I haven't touched alcohol ever since. I thank Zakk for giving me the incentive to give it another try. I thought if he could do it, then so can I.
2 bottles of Cuervo a day until I started puking and shitting blood. Sobriety date is 12/18/94. I drank all mine on the front end and quit when I was 27.
damn that's brutal
Well done for quitting 🙌🏻🙏
I’d blame that on the Guervo... that shit is horrid. Good on you for giving up...💪⚡️⚡️
Started when I was 12 and got sober at 29 on 8/6/01.Gotta grow up dude.
@@jameslewis9428 I hope your still going well Bro.
12 years sober... Jumped on the wagon and held on, cause whoever was drivin' that thing really wanted me to fall off.
Good for you. Stand proud.
Me too now I drive the wagon ! Don’t miss it either fuckin weird
21 years for me. Hang in there . It does get easier. And I don't miss it one bit.
Hell yeah!! You got this!!
Good job, my respect
I moved to Houston in 2012 for business and was an alcohol driven mess. I’ve always liked BLS and pride & glory... but really sat down and gave everything a listen to therapeutically. This is July 2018.... I’ve been sober since August 2013. Gave it up cold turkey.... had to make the change in life for my kids. And it’s worth every minute of it. Thanks Zakk, Ozz, and the members of bls and price & glory. Probably wouldn’t be alive today without you
Stick with beer. It's a fundamental cultured human food.
Beautiful words brother!
@@canyonproductions7683 2023 and still sober!!! Still thanks to ozzy and zakk and the members off ozz and BLS
Zakk is, was, and always will be the fucking man. I'm ten years off of dope and miss nothing about it whatsoever. I still have the occasional beer or shot or 2 to take the edge off but nothing like before. Thanks for getting well and being an inspiration to us zakk! SDMF
November 18th 2018. 8 years sober for me!! No rehab, I did it one day at a time. Every day you have a choice a new beginning to want to want do it for yourself! Stay strong, do it for yourself! Alcohol is the worst drug, and its legal!!
Fuck Alcohol ,,, 2 dys for me
April 13, 2006
Zakk Wylde calls Sharon Mom because both his parents are dead and Ozzy and Sharon knew Zakk for so long that they think of Zakk as a family member.
Disrespectful to his parents since they bought him a double neck Gibson Les Paul for his highschool graduation.
@@seekn.destroy4064 how?
@@seekn.destroy4064 Both his parents have passed away..He had a great relationship with both of them..
@@seekn.destroy4064 I'm sure Zakk loves both parties dearly. It's not your place to say what is respectful or not in that regard.
Zack is family
Just as rhodes was
They are all fucking family
601 days off Heroin and Meth.
Congrats
@@shofindo2350 Nice great job. Enjoy your new life.
That is great, stay at it. My significant other made 20 yrs off heroin, crack and valium. He finally has a real life.
shad covert 💫💫💫💫👍👍☀️☀️☀️
shad covert Jesus Christ crazy....
'I still make his sandwiches to this day' He loves that man! Randy clearly gave Zakk as a gift to Ozzy - long live Rock and Roll x
I'm 31, I'll have 4 years sober March 14th, videos like this help keep me sober. Thank you Zakk. One day at a time.
Stick with beer. It's a fundamental cultured human food, in combination with a balanced diet. Keep vital. Beer is healthy for me. Starches: tortillas, bread, popcorn, homogenized milk (and products), grains (except fermented), potatoes… aren't so good for me, …. beer is good for me. As are animal products (fundamental not inappropriately processed), fruit, greens, and veggies….. are great for me.
Met Zakk on several occasions. Once of the nicest, humble, and fun guys. Great stuff Zakk! You are an inspiration to so many.
Respect!!!Im forty and quit drinking but held on to smoking pot...I’m ready to quit smoking pot now and just focus on my health now...And life is as tough as we make it as a whole people on this fucking planet...
5 years now myself .I was facing the same delimna. It takes a man to face his demons
My whole life I've looked up to Randy, Dimebag, Zakk, and the goat Ozzy . Last month I lost my best friend and cousin to a lifelong battle with anything she could get her hands on. She lost both of her children. I couldn't do anything for her. I seemed to be enabling her. I hope her story as well as the other stories shared here will help you keep strong. Our angels are gone, but *we* have a choice for the ones that love us, if not for the simple fact, LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL. WE don't need to run, escape, have false courage. When our loved ones have an addiction, so do we.
Love and positive energy!
I pray for Zakk and Ozzy both right now.
My favorite ozzy quote to this day is " Be nice to the people on your way up, because I promise you will see them on your way down".
Zakk is the last of a rare and dying breed. The only old school full tilt bluesy metal guitar god still smashing out jams.
Truly one of metals precious gems.
Amen brother
I've got 21yrs sober by the grace of God, my heart goes out to those still in the struggle
You did it by the grace of you! Don’t give the credit to a fairytale.
@@ummmno3871 is that really necessary?
100% necessary. This person did the work and should be able to be proud of themselves. Religion robs people of a very basic human need to feel raw pride in their accomplishments.
Nothing has EVER happened by the grace of an imaginary sky man.
I didn't drink or smoke to much just your average teenage amount. But like Zack at 42 yrs, he's only a year older then me. I had a blood clot in both lungs, doctors said if I had not gone to hospital, would not be here today. But I then had another bout of the blood clot 2 yrs ago. Now I am on a pill for life, hopefully will be around for my kid and wife and able to keep rockin on the guitar.
SDMF! (Strength, determination, merciless forever) these words rings true with everything this man does 🤘
Merciless??? You're in the wrong path of life dude
He looks big and healthy and Viking-like. He's blessed.
He's definitely viking like, but in person he's not too tall. Great guy, funny to no end, very sentimental and full of heart.
He's 6'2". That's not short.
@@davidpeterson9647 Nope. Try more like 5'10"-5'11". I've met him twice, I'm 6'4" and easily 6" taller. I'll have to dig up the pics. Ya know like actual pictures in a frame not just files on a phone.
@@rizaptor7005 Dam'n, actual pictures! You must be around my age, lol!
@@Moon-jt4vy perhaps... 40 is on the horizon for me. It was 2005 and 2007 I met Zakk. Once backstage before a show and one time he was just cruising around stopping by rock radio stations across the country and hanging out with lucky fans. Great time
Good luck I've been sober for 30 years now. The 70s and 80s were tough.
I'm going to pray Zakk stays sober love the man he's just like me
Mad respect for Zakk. Thank you for the series, Revolver.
I am a young struggling alcoholic and this is everything!
How can you not love this guy, such a sense of humor.
I'm glad Zack did the right thing. No one is immortal.
38 years sober. In one meeting with God every addiction I had was removed immediately. The hardest thing to give up was my cigarette habit of 3 packs per day... actually that to was gone by the next morning. My Dad was an alcoholic and a killer. I was on the same path.
I owe all to God who rescued me when I couldn't help myself.
❤
Powerful testament. Thanks for sharing.
Only the Lord delivered me from alcohol and I pray for Zakk and his family to find Salvation in our Lord and have a beautiful life with the love of Jesus there guiding the way to heaven and through him may Ozzie find Salvation too with his family and friends and be such a great witness for Christ. I pray for their souls.
I got 5 years as of Jan. 3rd 2019...can't believe the difference, Thank you for sharing Zakk.
The music is, and always was, the greatest high. Zak shakes them strings like there is no tomorrow.
going on 8 years of total sobriety all on my own. AA just made me wanna drink so doing it my way when I was ready is what stuck. This is not about time for me but a permanent lifestyle change and I'm happier than I've ever been. No regrets, if you drink have fun and be careful cause it will sneak up on ya when you're having too much fun. Zakk is right, and I found out the same thing, you have to want it. Here's to life,love and music...Cheers!!!
At the end of the video, you can see how much Zakk loves and respects Ozzy! And that's what making music together is all about. Love and Respect. Peace, brother and keep on ROCKIN'...
That was cool as Hell. Zakk and his wisdom. Respect 😎💀😎
respect. all the way. go zakk.
I haven't met ZW yet in life and I can't play guitar real well but man I feel like I know this guy for years.and I'm always happy to hear him play . Keep playing like you do Zakk
Go lite on the mustard. Got it.
Which one?
yes
Amen! If you want to quit alcohol you have to man up and do it because no one can do it for you. You got to want it! It’s not too late to change.
love this man,I stopped drinking 9 yrs ago and I love it...every day is struggle though...keep on fighting my brothers!
Been 7 months sober. Thanks Father Zakk for choosing life. And for giving us the Zakk Sabbath album. SDMF Beyond Forever. Rolling Black Label. West TX chapter!
He really loves and respects Ozzy, he's like a father figure.
Been a fan since he first got w/Ozzy in 1988.. Zakk has done something most of my motorcycle buddies haven't as they got older; he learned that father time is tougher than anyone...and he's learned to respect it. God bless ya Zakk...you've actually got live AND tell the tale.
That sandwich lesson was something! I really loved the father son relationship they have
5 years sober this may and no rehab it can be done S.D.M.F
Mike Price u can just got to try don't get me wrong have craving I do other things and lost friends but I'm still not giving in best of luck to you
Congrats! 2.5 years for me yesterday. It CAN be boring...but much better than dead.
Rain Dirt Rehabs were created for one thing. To make money. Just like a lot of medical facilities, the main goal is the bottom dollar. Rehabs are the enemy of sobriety. They make you think you have an imaginary disease and that it’s not your fault that you can’t quit drinking or drugs or whatever. It’s the disease, it’s not your fault. That’s how they remove personal responsibility. Once that is removed, they have assured a repeat customer.
I'm a wine and beer aficionado. I do know a ton about it, I don't go heavy on the sauce but drink affects everyone. I would scrap all of it in a second for being there for other people, the woman and the little family I love. I've realized alcohol is generally bullshit, the people selling it to you are not your friends but are using you in a game of Russian Roulette with the barrel pointed at YOU every single round. You are a transaction to them, same as a slab of meat on the coroner's table. You're nothing to anybody but yourself and the man you're willing to be for others.
Know alot of folks just putting it down and lovin life. Best thing i ever did as well. After some time you dont miss it.
3:years sober here and i drank more than Ozzy and Zac combined for 30 years i found it easy to stop and no rehab i stopped playing guitar though and listening to music it is a reminder of what I was i get feelings of sadness when I think back
Be a Man
Spoken like true
Words Of Wisdom.
Bang on Zakk.
I made that choice 10 yrs ago and it’s been ridiculously easy because I wanted to quit badly. It took a really bad concussion to start the ball rolling. It doesn’t even tempt me anymore. I am so over it.
I drank with Zakk when he came to our local radio station - Heinekens and Crown Royal. We toasted Dime. I've got almost ten years sober now. My pancreas finally waved the white flag and that was it - done!
Thank you Zack! I’m a year sober. Your story helps me stay sober.
What an awesome dude, Love and RESPECT Zakk!
Live long buddy, we've lost so many already!
When I was 42, the docs gave me 3-5 years left on my liver. I drank for another 7 months, and got sober, thankfully. 12 years sober now, my life is 100% better. I my health had not turned horrible, and wanted to not be sick, every moment- I'd be dead. Nothing wrong with putting down the bottle, and kicking ass. But, you gotta want it...much love Zakk. 🤘🐵
Not quite the same I know, but my then 7yr old daughter came to me crying & said “Gram said you’ll die if you keep smoking. Please don’t die” 😳 On 1/1/98 at 3:30pm I put out the last cig in my pack & haven’t touched one since. Family is ALWAYS more important! To all of you that are clean, CONGRATS!! To those struggling, drugs & alcohol are never the answer. You’re worth SO much more! @zakkwyldebls
Love when he said Saint Dime, and Saint Randy. He's showing respect for two of the best that got taken away from us too soon. Thanks dude. You're a class act. Not to mention an amazing guitar player.
Glad to hear everybody in the comment section is "so many days sober" but c'mon this is one of the best f****** interviews ever.. Nearly brought me to tears, and i think that it deserves more than me, me, me bullshit. Hell..take Zakk for an example on how to be in life when things get hard..Right?
Love this dudes energy, always want to play guitar like him when my dad would play Black Label Society on the big stereo so I bought one myself and here I am.
25 years sober for me. i still get cravings though but i do not give in. i had some real bad ones 3 days ago i made it through.
some people need that poke in the eye..respect Zak
Respect for Zakk. Says it plain and simple. Got the right attitude.
Inspiring on so many levels.
Indeed!!💚🖤
Zakk , thanks for saving your life. You're an amazing guitarist, but more importantly you're an awesome human being. We all look forward to many more years of your musical endeavors.
Pearls of wisdom from a great guy and an awesome guitar player. Thank you for sharing this.
... and one hell of a sandwich maker apparently.
A real life hero There goes my hero lol 62yrs old Monday BB Kings too! Been off the H 10 plus yrs Went thru that several times Moderation is the key Not a good disciple But still kicking just not as high anymore I I survived Alot of us didn't Thanks Zach
Peace, LUV & light to all
"Go Light on the Mustard"
Now, THAT is a BLS album title if I ever heard one
14 yrs clean and sober this past October. Though still crazy fuckin wild...lol.......LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST AND PRAY .
Remember when we used to have a good time drinking? When you're not having a good time anymore it's time to end it. How you do it is up to you
zack your a real man. many don't come back from there...many don't....
I have nearly 15 years. Alcohol is... The road to no where.
Waste of life and the 27 club is nothing to be looked up to,
Road to fun
Amen
I used to go to a neighborhood bar and there was alot of diehard old timers and over the years they all died off with some kind or another to do with alcohol.
@@sketch334 yeah I’m 37 and knew that my hard drinking days were over, you just have to know when to throw in the towel
I couldn't imagine a world without Zakk. I love this guy. I have been on and off that Wagon they don't even slow the horses to let me back on anymore. I have been sober 1.5 years, been walking behind the wagon waiting for another seat to open up, and when it does I will never fall off again. It's a hard road, but it's a road we choose by ourselves. Can't blame anyone for your mistakes.
Zakk*
@@christianshadrick1150 Wow... lol my bad.
It's up to you is correct ! I love that dude 🤘🏻
SOCIETYDWELLIN MFR It is up to everyone if you want to shave.
Sure is.I had to stop years ago with my wild partying ways,I am almost 52 and this is the cleanest and most sober I have been since I was 14.... ! Truth is if a person wants to stop they can or will die trying,IMO.
Ross Krause I'm 3 yrs clean from opiates and sober
the respect he shows for Ozzy as his mentor, this is how its suppose to work. at least when your mentor is the great Ozzy
He looks so good now for giving up alcohol
Bless him glad he’s okay loved him since pride and glory days x
Honestly I've never been a huge fan of his style of playing (although it was always undeniably strong and shocking). But at the same hand, his personality, his passion and his attitude have always put me to respect and admire him as a huge human being. And man... what a tremendous lesson he is teaching us now in 2018, after decades building true career and a true life! Long live Zakk Wylde!
Lmao that bit about Ozzy!!! He is amazing! He can be more profound than some would think... love it.
It's awesome to see that Ozzy's and Zakk's friendship is based on respect and mutal understanding. So tough. Great guys.
Will be coming up on my 3rd year sober. My son turns 3 September 6th that's why I wanted it and was ready. No drinks for me. When I'd drink I'd go try to find the biggest dude I could and pick a fight(little man syndrome lol) and then I realized I wanted me to be a good example for my son when he came so that's what I did but you have to really be ready. I'm on my 4th month of no cigarettes
I knew Zakk AKA Jeff, from 13 to 18 very well and than off and on over the years, He Truly is a Wonderful Guy! We are all so Proud of Him!
J... ( Jackson ) for those who know ~
Zack sounds so much like Ozzy when he sings! 🤘🏻😍🤘🏻
Zakk*
Love zakk ! that is one of the best tips on getting sober.. no one but you are going help .. until you reach rock bottom and grow up ... it takes a man to get sober.. been sober 36 years... I was 21 years old and almost dead from liver disease... you can do it... thanks zakk for sharing 👍
You can see the Love Zakk has for Ozzy in his eyes when he talks about still making Ozzy's sandwiches.
light on the mustard! love it!
I think that Dime would have gone the same road.
RIP
Forreal man. Rip
Possibly the greatest guitarist to finish off the 1980's im glad hes still with us
Your best music won't come from any substance you take, it may happen DESPITE of it, but not because it. I'm not a popular musician at all , but I have been at it for 27 years and have never played, written, or recorded music while under the influence of anything stronger than coffee. But I do use certain things in my free time. The reason I choose not to during my music time is because I have seen that trap over and over again with my peers. If you develop a habit of getting drunk or high in order to to play your music it will absolutely take you down. You may have a bit of a bump at first , but it won't , and can't last. Trust your self and your talent , and run your ship on clean fuel and it will take you farther than the stereotypes ever will.
MrByaeger
Your experience is different from mine. I’ve done things for fun, undoubtedly it at least makes me feel better about what I play and that’s fine. It’s when I give up on music as an outlet and try to numb myself, that’s the trap I’ve seen myself and so many friends struggle with to varying degrees.
I like his no bullshit response. Not whining about how it's a disease and he can't help it. Just pure "get off your ass and do it" personal responsibility.
I saw you ( Zakk ) play back in the 90’s for Ozzy Perry mason tour I believe. Seen my Ozzman 8 times now! 🎤🎸💜😎
Joe Holmes was with Ozzy for nost of the Ozzmosis tour cycle..... Zakk did No More Tears tours .....1998 zakk played a few shows maybe.
I knew him when he was still Jeff Wylandt..."Zak" is the last of the true warriors; willing to put it on the line every night...for the sake of the music; I love you my brother