Most Pentatonic Boxes Are a Waste of Time (Pentatonics Reimagined 1/3)

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  • Опубликовано: 24 янв 2025

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  • @andrefludd
    @andrefludd  Год назад +6

    If this lesson feels too fast, remember that I make follow-up videos and answer all questions for Patreon members for only $5: www.patreon.com/Andrefludd

  • @randrothify
    @randrothify Год назад +9

    Great lesson Dr. Flood. Breaking things up into smaller pieces and learning things incrementally to try to at least get to a point that sounds musical and doesn‘t require incredible dexterity is much more motivating and satisfying than trying to learn everything all at once.

  • @charlielamp2739
    @charlielamp2739 Год назад +2

    Andre, I also feel comfortable calling the Box a name of the greats such as BB, where they played a lot. My guitar teacher back in 1997 also called the position two Box the Albert King Box.

  • @mohannair
    @mohannair Год назад +1

    This was an awesome lesson. I'd been thinking along these lines myself as I'm learning scales, but you've made it very simple for me to understand.

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад

      Thanks so much Mohan! Glad I could be of help, and much more coming soon!

  • @lunamatic9775
    @lunamatic9775 Год назад +1

    I know from just listening to a lot of music that nobody really switches up and down from box to box. Realizing that the so-called sweet spot where most playing occurs is not as large of an area is super helpful. Great lesson!

  • @buymagicfish
    @buymagicfish Год назад +1

    Ended up jamming with a neighbor today who just came out with his acoustic bass while I was practicing guitar out on a lawn. First time playing with someone in ages and used some of the lessons here :) timely video!

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад

      Awesome! Glad it was helpful

  • @NyneForte
    @NyneForte Год назад +1

    That's exactly how I first noticed the connecting of the shapes and extending them myself before I ever even began to think modal. I love this!

  • @picksalot1
    @picksalot1 Год назад +3

    Focusing on playing the Pentatonic scales on the 3 highest strings transformed my playing. It puts the notes we've heard and love right under our fingers, and makes shifting between the 5 boxes easy and sound great for the Blues.

  • @TobiasSimonsen-e2o
    @TobiasSimonsen-e2o Год назад +5

    Please do a review of the Klein guitar

  • @heneverreturnasahorse9773
    @heneverreturnasahorse9773 Год назад +1

    Thank you, Dr. Fludd, for an unjoyable lesson. After playing rock/blues from '66 to '77, I grew so tired of the standard rock/blues boxes and cliches I could cry after every gig. Luckily, I first heard Holdsworth in April '77 and didn't touch a box again for 20 years - that is a stupid hyperbole, of coursse, but I studiously avoided rock/blues cliches for 20 years. I started adding pentatonic shapes in the late 90s learning to play pitiful simulations of Albert Lee/Ray Flacke country , but I was just using the "boxes" while passing through the changes. I enjoy listening to masters of pentatonics, but I rarely play rock/blues pentatonic cliches.
    That is a beautiful Klein (Japan) Stele (?) - gratly anticipating your ususal careful, thoughtful, thorough review!

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад +2

      Indeed a stele! Loving it so far. I’m trying to develop a style that has the beautiful fluid nature of Holdsworth with the simple soul of Bb king. Wish me luck!

    • @heneverreturnasahorse9773
      @heneverreturnasahorse9773 Год назад

      @@andrefludd I feel confident you will not settle (spelling?) for mediocrity! Go forth and conquer, good Doctor!

  • @mattfleming2287
    @mattfleming2287 Год назад

    Great point and great comprehensive lesson. I can say that is exactly what I do.I can look at the discoloration on my fretboard and see that whole extended pentatonic scale.

  • @GitaraDad
    @GitaraDad Год назад

    That's exactly all I know about guitar playing and after watching this I don't feel so insecure and incapable anymore. Thank you Dr. Fludd.

  • @factandsuspicionpodcast2727
    @factandsuspicionpodcast2727 Год назад +1

    This was a fantastic lesson, man. Easy to follow and really informative for people learning improv.
    Great work.

  • @HeadRoaster
    @HeadRoaster Год назад +2

    that is one of the coolest guitars i've ever seen!

  • @waynecristaudo7220
    @waynecristaudo7220 Год назад

    Whoa… that headstock - I am dizzy! Great stuff as always.

  • @lukdb
    @lukdb Год назад

    Nice lesson. I do use that part in the middle and top behind box 1 frequently. There's a lot of fun to be found in that area, but i agree with everything you said.
    Finding the paths through the neck is more important than knowing whatever shape and the knowledge of how to get there from those vertical shapes that are commonly taught first is not always obvious for beginners.

  • @xmateosx
    @xmateosx Год назад +1

    First time watcher. I was daunted by trying to learn all of the pentatonic positions. I like that you say, don't learn all of them, like for a school project, learn the one's that my heroes are using. Thanks for paring it down.

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад +1

      I’ll have lots more coming. I’m very passionate about improv and simple sophistication

  • @gf301
    @gf301 Год назад

    Thanks for that enlightening lesson, it's helped me understand why I have such trouble remembering all the different scale positions. Apart from just not falling to hand in a natural way, you're so right, they produce so few usable licks.
    If something doesn't grab you, it's a lot harder to remember. What you said wasn't completely new to me but the way you said it was, so very helpful.

  • @BlackHoleForge
    @BlackHoleForge Год назад +1

    The thing that really helped me expand the fretboard was learning to go diagonal with a 1 3 spacing. Then once my fingers got used to that I could go straight up and down and try to learn the pentatonic boxes. But since I learned the diagonal first it gives me 2 choices to play the same note.

  • @CharmCityPaintball
    @CharmCityPaintball Год назад

    I’ve found this very helpful. I’ve been practicing this since I first saw this video. I’m watching a second time now. Thank you man, I really like your videos.

  • @steelisreal
    @steelisreal Год назад

    Very enjoyable lesson, I do really like the mix of videos you do. That is the ugliest headstock I've ever seen! Love it!

  • @ehsanhaq155
    @ehsanhaq155 Год назад

    Great video Andre. One of your best in terms of educational content. Enjoyed watching it.
    Would love to see more videos in different styles using these concepts. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @fdddsdfgfgrgf1
    @fdddsdfgfgrgf1 Год назад

    The more stuff I learn by ear, the more I realize how true this is.
    Dickey Betts solo in One Way Out by the Allman brothers is a great demonstration of this

  • @donaldcahill8255
    @donaldcahill8255 Год назад

    Good teaching...simple and clear

  • @GasStationSushiiii
    @GasStationSushiiii Год назад

    Thanks Andre, I’ve been practicing a lot of blues cause of Gary Moore… these help so much

  • @edesbalazs
    @edesbalazs Год назад

    I don't really have the blues dictionary in me, as I don't really listen to blues, but whenever I need to improvise, and need to fall back on penta, I end up exactly in the same place you shown in the beginning (box 1 with the same extensions up and down). It's pretty easy to sound good there without paying much attention to it, but also also easy to see there important diatonic chord tones. I never summarized it like you did, but it was spot on!

  • @Tcontinenza
    @Tcontinenza Год назад

    Andre,
    I just recently found your channel. This was truly informative and helpful. I’m looking forward to seeing more. Previously all I have watched were reviews and primarily the Gibson experiment. I going to have to explore more including your patreon page. I truly appreciate this lesson

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад

      I’m glad I could be of help! Thanks for supporting

  • @BenBreard
    @BenBreard Год назад +1

    Dooood! Congrats on the Klein. I haven't played a newer one. I bet they're great.

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад +1

      I haven’t played an old one. I bet they’re great :)

  • @empinchen
    @empinchen Год назад +1

    I think I'm having an LSD backflash.
    Oh wait, it's just your guitar.
    Great lesson!

  • @thejuggernaut5327
    @thejuggernaut5327 Год назад +2

    Thanks for the lesson. It looks like you left that Tele in the oven too long, however.

  • @GodsStoryteller
    @GodsStoryteller 3 месяца назад

    You are a blessing to humanity.

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  3 месяца назад

      Very kind of you thanks

  • @2696ize
    @2696ize 7 месяцев назад

    Good lesson ! Thanks!

  • @peterodemwingie1490
    @peterodemwingie1490 Год назад

    Today I was learning all positions and shapes but some indeed don’t feel right to do real magic like the one left of the most used one ( the low and high part maybe yes) but no absolutes as you said. You are a wise man. Nice lesson 👍🏽

  • @cuervo520
    @cuervo520 8 месяцев назад

    Man thank you so much ! I been so stuck lately this helps so much😊

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  8 месяцев назад

      Happy to help! Check out the other videos in this mini series

  • @jatna77
    @jatna77 Год назад

    I hope you do a review of your Klein!

  • @travismccartney
    @travismccartney Год назад +1

    Good lesson. Would you consider labeling the tab with interval distances instead of the notes for these kinds of lessons? I believe knowing the intervalic relationship is more important when building these skills but I'm open to being persuaded otherwise.

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад +2

      I agree 100% intervals are more important. I never think in note names. To be honest, I threw together the graphics rather quickly as a test to see if the topic was interesting to people, but now that I know it is, I’ll do a lot more moving forward.

  • @garygrinkevich6971
    @garygrinkevich6971 Год назад

    excellent video, watching it I'm realizing that I already incorporate alot of the techniques you mention to play diagonally up the neck across 3 octaves i learned it as a shredder technique for harmonic minor and diminished scales but it works very well with pentatonic phrasing.

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад

      Yes! Similar things apply to shredding in a diagonal fashion. Especially because of the repeated diminished pattern, and the gap of harmonic minor. Both are well suited for diagonal movement.

    • @garygrinkevich6971
      @garygrinkevich6971 Год назад

      @@andrefludd yas! also all the maj and minor 7th arpeggios can be played the same way when you play it in triplet sequences it sounds like your time traveling!

  • @Dizzle7771
    @Dizzle7771 Год назад

    Amazing lesson, thanks

  • @twobarsfourstars
    @twobarsfourstars Год назад

    Awesome video, immediately got me to pick up and play along and really helped connect things I’ve been working on recently. You’re the best, thank you for this valuable lesson!! Looking forward to your bb box, the king is still king 🙌🏼 and if you want to also include some Muddy Waters and Buddy Guy that would be equally amazing, so much of the best rock ever comes from them and it feels special to connect with the licks they pioneered and reverse engineer the ones that came after them

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад +1

      That’s a great idea. Thank you! Buddy in particular is very underrated. That will be fun to revisit.

    • @twobarsfourstars
      @twobarsfourstars Год назад

      @@andrefludd awesome!!! Buddy definitely is. In Chicago they’re both still heroes, Buddy especially with his bar. Willie Dixon would be cool too if you’re up for going full Chess alongside the southern blues legends 🙂

  • @MickTattersall
    @MickTattersall Год назад

    🤯 I got sooo much out of this video. Thank you very much ❤️

  • @rob61091
    @rob61091 Год назад

    I've been thinking about getting one of those klein guitars. How do you like it?

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад +1

      Review coming eventually :)

  • @wadethewiseman
    @wadethewiseman Год назад

    Serious question, why do we show the outlines of the shapes upside down when you’re looking at the guitar head on? My brain can’t re-orient that shape in my head when it could just be written with the low E on top just just like it is when I’m looking at the guitar when I am playing it or when I am looking at you while you are playing it. These diagrams have always confused me because of their orientation.

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад +1

      I’m not exactly sure, but it’s just the convention. You can always just flip them. I always flip them in my brain lol

  • @x3a3x3
    @x3a3x3 Год назад

    That’s a funky looking Klein!

  • @triumphil11
    @triumphil11 Год назад

    I recently discovered this! Great video!

  • @aadityakiran_s
    @aadityakiran_s Год назад

    So a review on the S tele is coming up?

  • @thomaspodmore7424
    @thomaspodmore7424 Год назад +2

    Hey brother just signed up for the patreon

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад +1

      Awesome! If you have any questions, feel free to ask them there

    • @thomaspodmore7424
      @thomaspodmore7424 Год назад

      @@andrefludd legend will do. Happy to support 🙏

  • @garycoates4987
    @garycoates4987 Год назад

    Can't to a focus video on the Klein guitar

  • @drakeonyou
    @drakeonyou Год назад

    Definitely reframed my understanding of pentatonic.

  • @omelettttttteeeeeee
    @omelettttttteeeeeee Год назад

    Amazing! Subbed!

  • @devonaupurok6920
    @devonaupurok6920 Год назад

    I have issues with improvising. I generally focus on writing riffs/songs, but watching you move up through the shapes makes me feel like I can start here and later be able to jam with random people at a blues bar LOL

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад

      You can absolutely do it, and it won’t take nearly as long as you may think.

  • @tj10777
    @tj10777 Год назад

    That guitar looks so comfortable to play

  • @bobbyboyderecords
    @bobbyboyderecords Год назад

    Great stuff

  • @dreamspheree
    @dreamspheree Год назад

    Best lesson hands down wow.! Jesus wow shapoo. 🙏 🙏 Hats off

  • @_Yep_Yep_
    @_Yep_Yep_ Год назад +1

    I just ignored the lesson completely and staired at this peculiar apparatus hes holding for 10 minutes. This guitar is what his Parker Fly takes out to clubs to feel prettier:)

  • @Guitarsgunsandghosts
    @Guitarsgunsandghosts Год назад

    Nice

  • @solidus317
    @solidus317 Год назад

    Great lesson. I’ve been doing the 3 to 10 diagonal thing myself for my hard rock lead playing but as I’m delving more into blues I’m VERY interested in the next lesson on that 10 to 15 extension. I’ll be watching your channel diligently. Great wealth of knowledge and fantastic content. Keep up the great work sir!

  • @Lomni
    @Lomni Год назад

    That is a very peculiar guitar!

  • @DJPLAYNICE
    @DJPLAYNICE Год назад

    🤘🏼

  • @therusseljournal
    @therusseljournal Год назад

    I see what you're thinking but don't do it. That's a trap and once that systm is your thing it's stupid hard to breakout of it.

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад +1

      Keep in mind that in 1 short RUclips video I introduced 4 different groupings all of which have a lot of scope. This is part of a larger system.

    • @therusseljournal
      @therusseljournal Год назад

      @@andrefludd I just know I'm trapped in this same exact range right now and it feels boring and stale. I don't know how to break the redundancy.

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад

      @@therusseljournal send me a message on Patreon. More than happy to address your individual needs if you are interested.

  • @FingersOnAFretboard
    @FingersOnAFretboard Год назад +2

    inaccurate tablature has famously made guitar fingerings unnecessarily complicated and uncomfortable. Yes, there are Holdsworthian players stretching hands like a spider with 8 broken legs, but just as I think the tuning of standard guitar is to facilitate the ease of grabbing chords conveniently then Lead soloing shouldn't be reasonably any more complex than it has to be. We are gifted with multiple locations to fret same notes, as well as cursed with the option paralysis of 'where do I fret this note?' If speed is a goal, then efficiency of playing what you desire is gonna make you go for the tried and true shapes, or seek better shapes. No shame in using the same ole pentatonic box. Nascar drivers make a career out of going in circles fast as they can, but then again rally racing can be a little more interesting, after all. Next they're gonna be calling them 'boomer' boxes?😏

  • @cechichan
    @cechichan Год назад

    no u didn't ;O

    • @cechichan
      @cechichan Год назад

      Really like what and how u do it, love that is very friendly vibes, but also very flowy, would love to end up at some point doing a project(video) with you someday man >^^> My channel very small and i barely scratched the starting of doing some of my ideas, but urs is very inspirational.
      And gg for getting to play ( or own ? ) that guitar !!! :D

    • @andrefludd
      @andrefludd  Год назад +1

      Thank you! I just checked out your channel, you sound great! I only started on RUclips a year ago. Still have a lot to learn as well. Wishing you luck and keep rocking!

    • @cechichan
      @cechichan Год назад

      @@andrefludd Appreciate it !! gonna do my best to enjoy it :D

    • @cechichan
      @cechichan Год назад

      @@andrefludd Btw!! :D May i give u my discord for some chats ? would love to talk guitar with you ;d