That and France support (almost 99% of cannons and artillery man where either from France or trained by them and without cannons you can't take any city or fort) @@tiringsarcasm
The Vestal virgins where completely sacred and could not even be touched by ANYONE FOR ANY REASON. that is why they had to die like that. No one could execute them without touching them
Fabius was a genius, he knew all too well that glory in battle means nothing if you don't win but if you win, then you get to set the glory and the narrative Rome was too occupied with ego, Beleiving they would defeat the barbarians on their terms, in glory and superiority Fabius was the only one who understood, that war is not glory, it’s brutal, underhanded and dirty and that is how you win then you heap the gold and silver on your victory and name afterwards.
the most interesting thing is that Hannibal got into the same situation as his father. Both he and his father were betrayed twice by Carthage itself. They are like two scapegoats. One fought honestly, but was betrayed and ridiculed by the Romans, and the second, Hannibal, did everything in the name of retribution, in the name of Carthage and in the name of his father and in the end won nothing but experience and wisdom. And in the future, Hannibal's grandson or great-grandson will only see what is left of Carthage and the rise of the Roman Empire.
19:19 - What you said would be true with any polis, except Syracuse. Because it was the biggest and strongest Greek polis of a time, with magnificent walls, made even stronger by ever-protecting landscape. I believe Cyracuse was third biggest city of Mideterranean at the time, with population of almost half a million at its peak. So they had men to protect the city
You were right initially with the vestal virgins being allowed to retired in older age. At least in the late republic that’s how it worked, entirely possible it worked differently in the early republic
Also a note on the reliability of numbers: It was also completely in Rome's interests to INFLATE Hannibal's numbers to make it more impressive that they beat him, and to get more support on fighting 'the monster'.
56:00 a bit more context on all this marriage stuff, because what OS said was very misleading: The wife (Sophonisba) was a prominent noblewoman in Carthage and supposedly the most beautiful woman in the entire city. She had been engaged to Masinissa for years, but after Scipio's campaign in Spain, the Carthaginians feared that Syphax would join the Romans, and quickly dissolved the engagement between her and Masinissa, and married her to Syphax instead. Syphax was really keen on the match too, and even threatened to attack Carthage himself if they didn't agree to the match. Then after Shyphax's defeat, Masinissa immediately married Sophonisba, but Scipio didn't trust her nor the influence she would have on her new husband (Roman writers even straight up blamed her personally for Syphax not joining Rome), and so ordered Masinissa to hand her over to Rome so that she would be paraded as a prize of war in a Roman triumph (and triumphs usually ended in the execution of captives). Given that Masinissa didn't want to be declared an enemy of Rome by refusing to give her up, he just gave Sophonisba some poison so that she could spare herself the humiliation of being paraded in a Triumph then being brutally executed. So basically, he gave her the option of dying on her own terms instead of giving the Romans the satisfaction of killing her.
I honestly don't believe Hannibal thought they would surrender. He certainly would have been happy if they did sure. But he was a smart man. Attacking Rome, literally the most fortified city in the world at the time, would have been futile.
Just in cause your still flabbergasted by the casualty numbers. Just remember casualties aren’t just deaths. They include deaths that’s true but they also include wounded, those taken prisoner, and those missing
37:20 I remember the first time I saw my name in the Bible I was shocked, and I also remembered when a preacher was doing a sermon about that story. It was pretty cool to find out when I was younger
I believe Scipio's victory isn't designed by fate but he simply learns from Hannibal and stalls the line until the Calvary returns. As it's impossible for Hannibal who has the same number as the Romans. To defeat the latter in short time is impossible when the Roman knew their leader plan and have high morale, even they tried, they can hold the line.
@ I mean...it's normal for the central court to undermine the general. But Hannibal himself also at fault. He wastes his manpower in many occasion. Likes the Alps' case, that loss alone can put him to death.
Happy to see our lad is on this. can't wait to leave this video not only entertained but smarter as well. Once i get back to it, for now im going back to video 1, to watch the whole series in order finally. so, I'll be back, mr Jack.
@The chill Zone (18:35) If a weapon is stupid but works it's not stupid. Referring to the bat bombs, they were strange but effective. Referring to the claws, ships of this time were very unstable and didn't require much to capsize them. Those ships were light and were designed to be dragged on the beach just using people power. With a city's worth a muscle ready at hand and a mechanical device the claw could be a very effective weapon during this era.
Would Archimedes mirror have worked better back then since there was less pollutants absorbing sunlight? Just wondering if that would have affected the MythBusters
Not entirely. The conclusion they came to was that the mirror worked because it blinded the ships and caused them to run aground so it was still effective
It's more of a propaganda tool. It DOES blinds you using the ray of the sun. It DOES make you feel hot while you're busy rowing the large ship. It's not out of the imagination to think that the Roman, known for being a superstition bunch, would believe the things they heard about the crazy alchemist.
The Vestals were the embodiment of Rome itself which explains a lot of the quirks around them. For example any condemned prisoner that was touched by or even laid eyes on a Vestal Virgin was immediately pardoned and set free because Rome herself has decreed their pardon. They were also exempt from most laws governing women. For example they could have their own wills without sanction from a male guardian. They were even allowed to give property to women which was illegal for anyone else male or female to do. As they were the state, they did not need to swear in or make an oath to testify in courts. Any assault on a Vestal was considered an attack on Rome itself and the person would be immediately declared an enemy of Rome and anyone could kill them with impunity. Lictors (Bodyguards of Roman officials i.e. the Roman equivalent to the Secret Service) were forced to lower their ceremonial weapons in the presence of a Vestal. They even had exclusive rights to attend and see things forbidden to all other upper-class women, such as gladiatorial games and stage side seats at theatres. It was this embodiment of Rome herself that made them particularly difficult to execute. They could not be touched and you could not spill their blood. To do so was an attack on Rome, regardless of the crimes of the Vestal. They also could not straight up bury them alive either. What they did instead was put them in an underground tomb with a few days of supplies as that way they could say the Vestal was put in a "room" and died of natural causes over time.
Hey Jack your smart so I have a question, you know those laser trip wire things they have in movies as a security alarm, if I was invisible and walked through it would I set it off if the light is going around me? Thanks.
If you like history videos - try Dj Peach Cobbler, his videos about "what did the Romans think of the -" and "Spanish expeditions" are very fun (& unhinged)
That is incorrect. The Israelites never recruited slaves for their army. Also they couldn't force anyone into slavery hence the kidnapping law from Exodus and Deuteronomy.
The slavery stuff is p wishy washy. It’s likely the “softer” form of slavery was only in regards to private ownership. There’s theories with merit that suggest temples had slaves that functioned more like the slavery we think of now That being said I’ve not seen any evidence for them using slaves in their army Edit: also should be noted folks should not be speaking in absolutes about this topic. We are still discovering things about ancient history to this day that contradict beliefs we held previously
@@petrasbirthdaygoblinhoney4565 People have always had some pretty werid defenitions for slavery. Some cultures insist (or have in the past) that it's only slavery if it's chattel slavery. Then you have the wackados today who consider putting people in prison (at all) to be slavery. Personally i'm not against some light slavery, especially if it's something like paying off a debt or "self-sold" slavery (as long as it's selling yourself and not family members) for a set amount of time. I've known enough people who came from Countries where that was their only path to escaping poverty to understand it's not black and white. And while you're right that we shouldn't speak in absolutes I think it's fair to say the likelihood that the Israelites enslaved people by our defenitions is almost 100%, but I doubt they (or even possibly the people they enslaved) would have viewed it that way.
"Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world."
Archimedes
I thought it was " give me a motorcycle long enough and a rock on which to place it, and i shall flip the tractor"
@@KalelReisKK it was definetly "give me a grab mod long enough and a tractor on which to place it, then i shall flip the trailer"
@@KalelReisKKMartincitopants my summer car moment
Fabian strategy was the strategy used in the napoleonic wars, so it definitely works.
It’s the same strategy that allowed the Continental army to succeed in the American Revolution too.
That and France support (almost 99% of cannons and artillery man where either from France or trained by them and without cannons you can't take any city or fort) @@tiringsarcasm
I see you both watch vlogging through history
@@tiringsarcasm also worked in ww2 with the russians v germans (basically thats what russia always does)
I mean, as “cowardly” as it may seem, it makes sense. If you can’t beat a military genius, go where he isn’t, as he can’t be everywhere at once.
The Vestal virgins where completely sacred and could not even be touched by ANYONE FOR ANY REASON. that is why they had to die like that. No one could execute them without touching them
Why not a bow and arrow?
@@cloudsterino4491 not allowed to spill their blood
How did they put them in the holes though.
@@ThePointlessBox_ touché
@@JarinCODpointing their spears at em
Or something else that makes rn move without touching em, idk
“You’re just a cheap knockoff”
“Oh no no no no, im the upgrade”
Fabius was a genius, he knew all too well that glory in battle means nothing if you don't win
but if you win, then you get to set the glory and the narrative
Rome was too occupied with ego, Beleiving they would defeat the barbarians on their terms, in glory and superiority
Fabius was the only one who understood, that war is not glory, it’s brutal, underhanded and dirty and that is how you win
then you heap the gold and silver on your victory and name afterwards.
the most interesting thing is that Hannibal got into the same situation as his father. Both he and his father were betrayed twice by Carthage itself. They are like two scapegoats. One fought honestly, but was betrayed and ridiculed by the Romans, and the second, Hannibal, did everything in the name of retribution, in the name of Carthage and in the name of his father and in the end won nothing but experience and wisdom. And in the future, Hannibal's grandson or great-grandson will only see what is left of Carthage and the rise of the Roman Empire.
19:19 - What you said would be true with any polis, except Syracuse. Because it was the biggest and strongest Greek polis of a time, with magnificent walls, made even stronger by ever-protecting landscape. I believe Cyracuse was third biggest city of Mideterranean at the time, with population of almost half a million at its peak. So they had men to protect the city
You were right initially with the vestal virgins being allowed to retired in older age. At least in the late republic that’s how it worked, entirely possible it worked differently in the early republic
Also a note on the reliability of numbers: It was also completely in Rome's interests to INFLATE Hannibal's numbers to make it more impressive that they beat him, and to get more support on fighting 'the monster'.
56:00 a bit more context on all this marriage stuff, because what OS said was very misleading:
The wife (Sophonisba) was a prominent noblewoman in Carthage and supposedly the most beautiful woman in the entire city. She had been engaged to Masinissa for years, but after Scipio's campaign in Spain, the Carthaginians feared that Syphax would join the Romans, and quickly dissolved the engagement between her and Masinissa, and married her to Syphax instead. Syphax was really keen on the match too, and even threatened to attack Carthage himself if they didn't agree to the match.
Then after Shyphax's defeat, Masinissa immediately married Sophonisba, but Scipio didn't trust her nor the influence she would have on her new husband (Roman writers even straight up blamed her personally for Syphax not joining Rome), and so ordered Masinissa to hand her over to Rome so that she would be paraded as a prize of war in a Roman triumph (and triumphs usually ended in the execution of captives).
Given that Masinissa didn't want to be declared an enemy of Rome by refusing to give her up, he just gave Sophonisba some poison so that she could spare herself the humiliation of being paraded in a Triumph then being brutally executed. So basically, he gave her the option of dying on her own terms instead of giving the Romans the satisfaction of killing her.
I honestly don't believe Hannibal thought they would surrender. He certainly would have been happy if they did sure. But he was a smart man. Attacking Rome, literally the most fortified city in the world at the time, would have been futile.
Just in cause your still flabbergasted by the casualty numbers. Just remember casualties aren’t just deaths. They include deaths that’s true but they also include wounded, those taken prisoner, and those missing
37:20 I remember the first time I saw my name in the Bible I was shocked, and I also remembered when a preacher was doing a sermon about that story. It was pretty cool to find out when I was younger
I believe Scipio's victory isn't designed by fate but he simply learns from Hannibal and stalls the line until the Calvary returns.
As it's impossible for Hannibal who has the same number as the Romans. To defeat the latter in short time is impossible when the Roman knew their leader plan and have high morale, even they tried, they can hold the line.
He basically copied the design from his enemy and improved it. His tactics were less Roman, and yet at the same time still very Roman.
Carthage did Hannibal so dirty on so many occasions.
@ I mean...it's normal for the central court to undermine the general. But Hannibal himself also at fault. He wastes his manpower in many occasion.
Likes the Alps' case, that loss alone can put him to death.
FINALLY A PART 3 LET'S GOOOO
Happy to see our lad is on this. can't wait to leave this video not only entertained but smarter as well.
Once i get back to it, for now im going back to video 1, to watch the whole series in order finally. so, I'll be back, mr Jack.
@The chill Zone (18:35) If a weapon is stupid but works it's not stupid. Referring to the bat bombs, they were strange but effective. Referring to the claws, ships of this time were very unstable and didn't require much to capsize them. Those ships were light and were designed to be dragged on the beach just using people power. With a city's worth a muscle ready at hand and a mechanical device the claw could be a very effective weapon during this era.
Would Archimedes mirror have worked better back then since there was less pollutants absorbing sunlight? Just wondering if that would have affected the MythBusters
easier solution is that the mirror was shown to work (on a short distance) to some people. and then the legend just spread from there.
Not entirely. The conclusion they came to was that the mirror worked because it blinded the ships and caused them to run aground so it was still effective
From that perspective the ozone would’ve been fuller too then, no?
It's more of a propaganda tool.
It DOES blinds you using the ray of the sun. It DOES make you feel hot while you're busy rowing the large ship.
It's not out of the imagination to think that the Roman, known for being a superstition bunch, would believe the things they heard about the crazy alchemist.
Just discovered this channel. Your voice is calming 🙂
The Vestals were the embodiment of Rome itself which explains a lot of the quirks around them. For example any condemned prisoner that was touched by or even laid eyes on a Vestal Virgin was immediately pardoned and set free because Rome herself has decreed their pardon. They were also exempt from most laws governing women. For example they could have their own wills without sanction from a male guardian. They were even allowed to give property to women which was illegal for anyone else male or female to do. As they were the state, they did not need to swear in or make an oath to testify in courts. Any assault on a Vestal was considered an attack on Rome itself and the person would be immediately declared an enemy of Rome and anyone could kill them with impunity. Lictors (Bodyguards of Roman officials i.e. the Roman equivalent to the Secret Service) were forced to lower their ceremonial weapons in the presence of a Vestal. They even had exclusive rights to attend and see things forbidden to all other upper-class women, such as gladiatorial games and stage side seats at theatres.
It was this embodiment of Rome herself that made them particularly difficult to execute. They could not be touched and you could not spill their blood. To do so was an attack on Rome, regardless of the crimes of the Vestal. They also could not straight up bury them alive either. What they did instead was put them in an underground tomb with a few days of supplies as that way they could say the Vestal was put in a "room" and died of natural causes over time.
BRO THEY NEED TO TURN THIS INTO A TV SHOW
HEY the BATBOMB was brilliant and would have worked VERY WELL
It really feels like Hannibal just had worse army
Always the cavalry decided these battles, lol.
Hey Jack your smart so I have a question, you know those laser trip wire things they have in movies as a security alarm, if I was invisible and walked through it would I set it off if the light is going around me? Thanks.
Yes
If they are motion sensors/radar sensors, yes. They will still hit you and bounce back even if you aren’t visible
If the light is going around you, the laser would still hit the sensor and the alarm wouldnt go off
If you block the beam of light in any way then yes. If you were completely invisible then light would permeate so probably not.
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS!!! YYEEEESSSSS!!!
A sweet video still fresh and juicy
Much love from France Jack ♥️
28:53 I don't know why, but I expected a Bel Air Prince joke at this moment.
Jason was a normal greek name at that time
Lol, Yes! There were non-death punishments in antiquity. If I'm not mistaken; thieves had their hands cut off.
12:22 - 12:41 I’m a genius 😂😂
34:21 I like the idea on an educational video which tells you to read a book.
Jason was Greek in origin. One of the heroes of legend was Jason.
Bat bomb you mean the one that the fat electrician explained
Fabius wasn't "the unofficial leader of Rome"- he was *officially* named dictator for some years.
I like the verses from the Bible you put
Heyo Jack!
The Fat Electrician did a deep dive on the bat bombs you may like.
dude check your description lol, wrong video
I only just came back even though i watch you regularly haha,
53:45: WULULULULULULULULULU
17:56 Easter Eggs:
13883/33 = 420.6969...
ME = QT(pi)
1+1=11
Genius
Let’s go lads
Nice, Skyrim background music.
is he serious about the third punic war? I don't think that war had much drama
how can my short be 1 hour long?
Unc stocks rising
If you like history videos - try Dj Peach Cobbler, his videos about "what did the Romans think of the -" and "Spanish expeditions" are very fun (& unhinged)
When are you gonna react to secret level?
Lol 7:46
That is incorrect. The Israelites never recruited slaves for their army. Also they couldn't force anyone into slavery hence the kidnapping law from Exodus and Deuteronomy.
The slavery stuff is p wishy washy. It’s likely the “softer” form of slavery was only in regards to private ownership. There’s theories with merit that suggest temples had slaves that functioned more like the slavery we think of now
That being said I’ve not seen any evidence for them using slaves in their army
Edit: also should be noted folks should not be speaking in absolutes about this topic. We are still discovering things about ancient history to this day that contradict beliefs we held previously
@@petrasbirthdaygoblinhoney4565 Which temples?
@@petrasbirthdaygoblinhoney4565 People have always had some pretty werid defenitions for slavery. Some cultures insist (or have in the past) that it's only slavery if it's chattel slavery. Then you have the wackados today who consider putting people in prison (at all) to be slavery.
Personally i'm not against some light slavery, especially if it's something like paying off a debt or "self-sold" slavery (as long as it's selling yourself and not family members) for a set amount of time. I've known enough people who came from Countries where that was their only path to escaping poverty to understand it's not black and white. And while you're right that we shouldn't speak in absolutes I think it's fair to say the likelihood that the Israelites enslaved people by our defenitions is almost 100%, but I doubt they (or even possibly the people they enslaved) would have viewed it that way.
Just because they didn’t use the word slavery doesn’t they weren’t slaves