US Battleships Of WWII - Episode #1
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- Опубликовано: 29 апр 2024
- In this episode, we are covering the oldest classes of battleships that were in commission for the US Navy during WWII. These are the Wyoming, New York and Nevada class ships. Enjoy!
Timestamps:
Preface: The Rise of American Dreadnoughts - 01:03
Wyoming class - 03:05
New York class - 08:49
Nevada class - 15:24
Conclusion and Charts - 27:42
Disclaimer!! The info sheets for each class are as accurate as I could make them. Info such as tonnages and crew may have slightly varied.
The graphics in this video were created by this channel and take many hours. If you are interested in using them, please reach out and do not use without asking.
Books for Reference:
New Vanguard -- US Navy Dreadnoughts 1914-45 by Ryan K. Noppen
New Vanguard -- US Standard-Type Battleships 1941-45 (1) by Mark Stille
I really have always admired the older BB’s doing their part in WW2. So glad we still have USS Texas.
She’s a beauty! Glad I was able to see her last summer
The fleet of slow battleships Oldendorf commanded were vital to the war effort, the hurt he put in the Japanese in Leyte Gulf was fantastic but his shore bombardment before and during amphibious landings saved countless lives over the course of the war.
My grandfather was on the Texas. I wish he was here to see it.
She was there before the famous one like Massachusetts, North Carolina and all four of the Iowa sistership. She stood proud as last of her kind, a kind that for American naval engineering, too rare to find around the world. If Japan have Mikasa, Great Britain have HMS victory, America have USS Texas, last Super Dreadnought battleship. Plus her sistership, took two nuke and still survived, only to be taken down by old fashion way, a naval gunnery test.
@@gerryw.629 My grandfather was on the WW1 armored cruiser USS North Carolina. I’d like to think he saw USS Texas.
Those rebuilds are (in my opinion) some of the best looking ships out there
Interwar rebuilds or Pearl Harbor rebuilds?
@@svgproductions72 Pearl Harbor rebuilds, but they all look great
Be sure to tune in for the next 2 videos in this series, it will cover more of the Pearl Harbor rebuilds!
@@svgproductions72Pearl Harbor rebuilds. West Virginia, California, and Tennessee all look stunning after their rebuilds! As good or better than South Dakotas.
@@TheBruceGday They did have just amazing lines!
Texas flooding the outer ballasts to allow the guns more range was genius
Gunnery officer - Captain, the gun can't elevate high enough, our shell hit short off the beach.
Battleship Captain - float the ballast tank comparment and let feel like we take water
Note on the USS Texas. She is the only surviving battleship in the world that served with the Grand Fleet from WWI. The British only let coal fired American battleships at Scapa due to their shortage of Oil for the battleships. She is a beautiful ship.
Oh wow, thank you for the information!
Did you forget USS Utah?
@@williamcornish3175 USS Utah was decommissioned in 1931 as per Washington Naval treaty. She was disarmed and redesignated AG-16. She was mistaken as a battleship and was targeted by Japanese torpedo bombers , rolled over and sank. The wreck remains in Peral Harbor and a memorial was erected near the wreck in 1972. In WWI she served with the Nevada and Oklahoma out of Berehaven in Bantry Bay, Ireland. She was both oil and coal fired so she was not station at Scapa Flow with the Grand Fleet. The ships that were station with Grand Fleet was The 6th battle squadron. USS Florida, USS Wyoming, USS New York, USS Delaware, USS Texas (USS Arkansas replaced Delaware in July 1918). I did not forget about the USS Utah.
I recently went on a cruise leaving out of Galveston. I was delighted to see the USS Texas moored there and took numerous photos.
The Royal Navy asked for coal-fired ships, as we had plenty of domestic coal, but at that time no domestic source of oil.
I imagine that the fleet would have "let" anything into Scapa as available, but we wanted coal-fired battleships.
Arkansas also helped prevent German radio controlled guided bombs off of Normandy. Specialists used radio transmitters to scramble signals that guided the Fritz X bombs.
Didn’t know that! Thanks for sharing
HMS Warspite was hit by a Fritz X bomb that went straight thought the ship. She didn’t sink but it left one 15 inch turret out of action permanently
TLDR - US Navy lost two battleships in the entirety of World Wars I and II. The two permanently lost were USS Arizona and USS Oklahoma, both on December 7, 1941.
Many other US battleships were damaged, some seriously, but none were kept out of the fight for long.
The last fleet carrier sunk by the enemy was the original USS Hornet in the Solomon Islands campaign. The last fleet carrier sunk was the decommissioned USS America. The Navy sank her in the 21st Century as a test of her class's ability to absorb damage. It was a classified operation, but indications are strong that she absorbed enormous damage before finally being sunk.
i think that the last carrier lost in battle was an escort carrier
USS Utah? I realise she was being used as training gunnery ship at the the time of her loss. Bout I guess she was still a battle wagon.
@Amerigo88 you forgot one the uss utah BB-31 which was a Florida Class battleship from ww1
I'm so glad they preserved the USS Texas (and thank God for TEXAS!), as the only surviving Dreadnought from that era. She may not be as heavily armed as the later Dreadnoughts (like the Queen Elizabeth class), but she is a classic example of naval thought and engineering of her time, and she is a magnificent specimen of the period. I look forward to getting down there after her restoration and walk her decks. I can just imagine the action and the life aboard this historical example of naval thought, construction, and principle of the time, all of which are a direct consequence of Alfred Mahan, and the impact of his important work (The Influence of Naval Sea Power on History). It changed the world, and the USS Texas is a classic example of that.
Because of the layout of Pearl Harbor and facilities, the "easiest" attack route for the Kate torpedo bombers was over the Southeast Loch. This avoided turbulence from the buildings on either side of the Loch. This made USS Oklahoma and USS West Virginia the "easiest" targets, and USS California a bit more difficult, due to 1010 Dock. This led to over-concentration on the USS Oklahoma (5-8 hits) and USS West Virginia (7 hits). USS California was hit twice, and USS Nevada once.
Makes sense! I haven’t heard this before, very interesting
@@svgproductions72 Ditto! Very intriguing line of thought that I have never heard presented before, and I have studied that attack since I was a child.
Only Nevada manage to escape the attack and suffer only minimal damage, give her the title a ship "Bright spot in the most dismall and depressing morning"
Had USS Nevada not run itself aground at Hospital Point, she would have sunk, at sea had she left the harbor, and thus not salvageable. She was "only" hit by one torpedo, but that torpedo was much more powerful that her torpedo defense was designed to defeat. Also, Nevada was not in great condition, which was the reason for the unstoppable progressive flooding. This information and the information above about the geography of that part of the PH base funneling the Kates' attacks is from Alan D. Zimm's "Attack on Pearl Harbor: Strategy, Combat Myths, Deceptions".
Looking forward to seeing part 2. My dad served on the Pennsylvania (BB38).
That will be coming out soon! I go in-depth on her history as well
While the wreck of the USS Oklahoma has still not been found, during dredging operations at Pearl Harbor in 2006, one of her aft mast legs that supported the rear fire control was discovered, recovered, and sent to Muskogee War Memorial Park in Oklahoma. Aside from her bell, a screw, and two anchors at the Science Museum in Oklahoma City, and the aft wheel at the Oklahoma History Center, also in Oklahoma City, it is the largest section of the ship that has since been recovered and preserved. It is 40 feet in length, and weighs 25,000 pounds. Of the 429 sailors and Marines killed on board during the Pearl Harbor attack, 396 have since been identified in the eight decades since that fateful Sunday morning. Only 33 of her men remain known only to their God, and were re-interred in their final resting place at the Punchbowl Cemetery during the 80th anniversary of the attack.
Time to be hyped about part 2 now
Apart from the USN staying for rather longer with triple expansion propulsion plant, the 21kt, 28,370 ton f.l.d. "New York" class battleships (10 x 14"/45cal main battery guns in 5 x twin turrets in positions A,B,Q,X,Y firing 1,500lb APCs, + 21 x 5" casemate mounted secondaries and max 12" belt + 2" deck armour) seem VERY similar to their nearest UK contemporaries built over almost the same period, the 21.5kt 29,500 ton f.l.d. "Iron Duke" class ships (10 x 13.5"/45cal main battery guns in 5 x twin turrets in positions A,B,Q,X,Y firing 1,410lb APCs, +12 x 6" casemate mounted secondaries and max 12" belt +2.5" deck armour). Each class was also the last in their respective navies that relied on coal and apart from the US ships originally carrying the not very successful cage type masts, they even looked very much alike.
One must wonder how much mutual interest/observation of each other and exchange of info, formal or otherwise, took place "across the Pond" even as long ago as before WW1. More than seemingly did just across the North Sea, if directly contemporaneous German designs are any guide!
A 5 inch, 50 caliber naval gun has a barrel 50 times longer than the barrel bore. That means a 5 inch, 50 caliber gun barrel was 250 inches long (20 feet, 10 inches).
Ah, never knew the bit about Oklahoma's final fate. Knew she was not repaired for further service, just assumed she was broken up for scrap (as intended), not that her hull was lost due to weather on the way to the scrapping yard.
It’s something that I didn’t know about until a few years ago also! I thought she was scrapped in Hawaii
Thanks for the excellent breakdown and profiles of the early "dreadnought" battleships. Can't wait for part 2
Thanks Timothy! Glad you enjoyed it, I have part 2 written up and finalized, just need to record and make graphics for it, should be out in the next few weeks
@@svgproductions72can’t wait
That is a truly haunting hull bottom sketch of the remains of the U.S.S. Arkansas at Bikini Atoll 8:47
Agreed, it’s sad what happened to Arkansas after all she did !
Always loved the unique profiles of the older standard BB's. I especially like the trademark forward facing bent crane at the stern of the vessel.
Fan-f*cking-tastic video! Can’t wait to see part 2. Thank you!
"Painted bright orange, the bomb missed, and the ship survived." lmao
Absoulutely amazing video, detailed videos on naval vessels exist, but more specified overviews like this I find to be fairly rare. Thank you so much, subscribed and happily waiting for further work.
Thank you very much! Be on the lookout for my new vids or check out some of the older ones. Glad you jumped on board !
Interesting mate and your knowledge of these ships are good, well done 👍
Ive had the honor of touring USS Texas before her overhaul. What an awesome experience
Still waiting for the F4U Corsair video, but any video is a good video 😊
lol sorry about that! Once this battleship series is over (3 more vids) I’ll hit the aircraft again!
This is so cool and well done!!! Thanks for great US naval history👍👍
Thank you very much!!
Crazy how they were already designing new battleships while the previous iterations were still being built!
Thank you for your continued commitment to details and the informative video. Looking forward to the next one.
Thanks Tom!
It’s the same with destroyers as the Benson, Sims and Gleaves were all being built/designed almost at the same time.
Re secondaries in USS Nevada's post-PH rebuild, the 5"/51 anti-ship and 5"/25 AA secondaries were replaced with 5"/38 dual-purpose guns. This update made Nevada a slower, somewhat less heavily armed version of the USN's modern battleships. Nevada would not have done well against Yamato, but she would have given Nagato a very rough fight, and could have beaten a Fuso- or Ise-class battleship.
Correct! She was more relegated to more of a secondary role after Pearl Harbor, I think she probably is one of the cooler looking rebuilds and what a great story!
I have a book I read years ago on her history “Silver State Dreadnought” by Stephen Younger I highly recommend if you like Nevada
Yamato? Two Butler Class Destroyer Escorts are all you need! (Oh, and one more Commander Copeland). 😁
Nicely done!
Thank you!!
Nothing beats an old battle wagon.
New here, just subbed can't wait to catch up on the other videos.
Love me some WW2 Naval History
Thanks for joining! Glad you enjoyed it, be sure to check out some of my other videos if you haven’t already
You have to respect the two Roosevelt's for caring and making this country the greatest country on the planet!
10 new fast battleships..2 North Carolina class, 4 South Dakota class, and 4 Iowa class, along with 2 Battlecruisers, Alaska and Guam. Some people call the Alaska's Heavy Cruisers, but the gun calibers do not fit prevoius treaty limits, being 12 inch caliber, so I still refer to them as battle cruisers. [ 0.36 the count was 2 short.]
I’m sure you can get into an argument easily calling the beautiful Alaska class battlecruisers. 😊
@@billbrockman779 Happened before. Designed as a cruiser killer, that's basically THE description of a "Battlecruiser" though. 'Treaty' cruisers of the era being listed / classed with 6 or 8 inch guns, and the Alaska's mounting WW 1 era 12 inch battleship guns, with heavier armor than a cruiser and 30+ knots, what else could we call her ? Out matches any cruiser of the day. "Pocket battleship" term was applied to the enemy..
I used to think the cage masts were ugly but pooking at them more and playing games like Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts has lead to me falling in love with how they look.
Obviously the tripod and modern masts are better just talking about looks as opposed to function
Great information
Thank you Shawn, glad you enjoyed it
This is cool, thank you
I enjoyed your video how it takes a look on how the United States progressed in the design and priorities as the threats changed fascinating stuff keep up the good work
@@keithbusick6859 thank you Keith! Be sure to watch Episodes 2 and 3 if you haven’t already, Episode 4 is being created as we speak!
Very good, thank you 👍
Thank you!
Thanks for helping me make sense of the difference between these old girls👍
Very good video.
Thank you very much!
In the photo of the underwater test at Bikini Atoll, wasn't Arkansas the dark shadow against the wall of water? I had read somewhere that she was stood on her end by the blast.
I’ve also heard that! I’m pretty sure that is true but I’ve also heard people say it’s just a rumor. I believe it to be honest!
Great job (I am actually still watching) I enjoy all your work, carry on with the great job you do sir
Thank you! It’s a long one, so enjoy!
I’ve always wondered at the thinking behind putting torpedo tubes on battleships. The range of torpedoes at the time meant they were pretty much useless in combat.
If you making a stretch and Montana are built. Iowa Class are Battlecruisers. Montana have 12 guns Iowa only have 9. Iowa is much faster and have less protection than Monty. Which means Iowa falls into Battlecruiser category.
“But Iowa can stand against her own fire power”
Then if we put that Battleship should have the armor at the same protection as the same firepower of its own class, then North Carolina are Battlecruisers. Her armor is not strong enough to take on her own 16inch guns.
Alaska are definitely first gen Battlecruisers. It design to hunt cruisers and battle with them.
I just doing this to piss people off. Don’t worry about it.
as a troll why would you announce your a troll?
If you really want to get people foaming at the mouth, Hood and the G3's will do it.
@@blackopscw7913 because last time I did without saying I am trolling. They literally take too seriously and literally make propaganda to be anti me because I was trolling.
Why would you being soooo wrong piss anyone else off?
Thanks, nicely done and easy to asorbe. Leona
Thanks for the nice comment! Glad you enjoyed it
Great video - I was always fascinated by the histories of battleships, especially during WWII! Here's an interesting detail: prior to Pearl Harbor, the US Navy actually intended to retire the Oklahoma by the following May.
Thank you! And I feel like I’ve heard that before, I think it was due to her power plant/propulsion?
@@svgproductions72 I'm pretty sure that was the reason.
Small note as a Sailor, forecastle is pronounced as "folk-sal". Just as Boatswains Mate is pronounced as "Bosun's Mate. I know I am being nitpicky, but I just prefer the right pronunciation.
Thank you, it’s not a problem!! During editing I probably mentally skimmed over it and didn’t catch my mistake. I do appreciate seeing comments like this so I can better the content moving forward
@@svgproductions72 I meant no disrespect. I love your channel and look forward to many more great videos. Great job on this one!
@@wtgardner6914none taken! It’s really ok and thank you for your service
I love Texas; but, the Wyoming class “Turret Farms”, especially Arkansas fought in WWII.
The kamakazi hit of Nevada, my Dad was there…one of the men killed was his battle station partner. My Dad had been called away to the other side of the ship just before the hit.
@@ManuelDiaz-on7tg thank you for sharing, I couldn’t even imagine how that must have felt. Nevada is one of my favorite ships, such a storied history, I have her post-rebuild blueprints hanging in my office!
Think the time is comming to bring the battleship back as a hybrid ship. The big guns being replaced with railguns and missles. Also the fantail being built with a vstol hanger and well deck below for special ops off from the main forces. Build one per carrier battle group to act detatched from the group in supporting actions and bombardment. 5-15 lbs rail gun slugs would be close to equal the old main guns without any powder mag. needed and with nuclear power. Could carry several times the rounds of even the Iowas.
A nuclear reactor would be a safety risk for a vessel expected to be more upfront in combat, and high maintenance which is why it's more fit for submarines and carrier's that see less confrontation and the big guns would shake the reactor which is meant for smooth sailing. Current nuclear ships are already expensive, so a modern battleship would require gas turbines.
The US Navy has pretty much abandoned railguns, and no other navy appears to be even considering them. The technology just isn't there yet.
Finally, some good fucking algorithmic content
Thank you !! Hope you enjoyed it
FYI. The Nevada was renamed Scarlet Fever for Operation Crossroads!. She was supposed to be the bull's-eye for Test Able!. The bomb missed!.
Yea ol fritzi wasn't looking for that in Normandy that day.
Which mean Pearl Harbor and those battleship that severely damage and some completely lost were not mean that US battleship fleet is completely wipe out. I mean this is United States that just about to become Iron Giant of Mass production ,you destroy portion of their fleet, they came back at you ten fold the amount of force
rest in peace for USS Oklahoma BB-37 and her crews
TExas is the last of her kind of the mighty dreadnaughts.
Please make a playluist of US Ships: WW2.
Once my new battleship episode comes out soon I will do that, good suggestion!
I didn't know that, during WWII, there were still battleships in active service with barbettes!
Barbettes are the cylindrical structural foundation for turrets. They are heavily armored to protect the shells, powder and machinery inside them. All turrets sit on barbettes, meaning all battleships have barbettes. Just thought I would explain as your surprise seems to indicate that you might not quite understand what a barbette is. It's simply not possible to have those huge turrets without a barbette to sit on. The turrets would fall through the deck and maybe the bottom of the hull without them.
You have several minutes of mute audio, not sure if a glitch or an editing error. Good info otherwise.
At the end of the video? The charts at the end I don’t speak during
can you do one on uss whitcha my grandpa was on it in ww2
I would check with Drachinifels channel, he may has done the history of Wichita already!!
Just a note, Forecastle is not pronounced as you are saying it. It is pronounced as Foc 'sle or Folksill
I am 79 and you are totally correct, Sir.
🙈🙉🙊 😎 🇺🇸
If you go to Carson city nevada the uss Nevada's ship's bell is in the Governor ' office.
Can someone tell me what does Battleship numbers? like BB-64 meaning
Essentially BB-XX was a way to communicate the designation. Sometimes ships shared names throughout history such as Ohio, originally a battleship now a class of submarine and with her as the first of her class. Another example is CV-6 Enterprise with many enterprises following through history.
@@wyntr1903 Ohhh because i made some ship models and name them, but i want to learn about naming a ship name and understand the class like Carrier
@@wyntr1903 Thank you kind sir
When does part 2 come out?
I should be recording it today so maybe next week? I hope!
@@svgproductions72 Yes! i will be waiting for it!
The Imperial Japanese Navy Mikasa still exists as a museum though I think she's a dreadnought
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Studying many of these, I'm disappointed with some of World of Warships representations. I know it's a video game and is fun to play, just don't understand why some minor details were left out.
Good question, maybe it’s for gameplay balancing, that’s my only thought, or if they don’t want to dive too deep down the rabbit hole
@@svgproductions72 I would think a little of both
@@svgproductions72 example, the Wyoming in World of Warships is missing it's torpedo tubes
The uss oklahoma:nevada my sister remember me
Oh she remembered her alright! Nevada came back from the dead to have an illustrious WWII-career
Pls do more of this I love this also check my channel out for some stuff I love these ships especially older ww1 and ww2 and the iowas
I plan to go through all the BBs, be on the lookout for new videos soon
@@svgproductions72 Ok i’ll be looking out for the
Let's put those into space.
**I like big boats.**
How come North Carolina became a museum, but not Washington?
That’s a great question! When I cover the North Carolina class ships in Episode 3 I probably will cover that
@@svgproductions72 Washington, Massachusetts and New Jersey were the best American battleships.
@@kristelvidhi5038 and I’ve visited Massachusetts and New Jersey multiple times! Great to see if you haven’t visited them
@@svgproductions72 i'm Albanian🇦🇱
O-Ryan not Or-ee-on.
Sorry about that!
My favorite WW2 ship is the USS Pennsylvania 🤌🏼
My next video covers her! Be on the lookout for it
@@svgproductions72 absolutely will you got a new subscriber! 💪🏻
INDONESIA United States
It’s pronounced focsal not forecastle
@@williambinkley8879 I realized that after this came out and fixed it on the subsequent videos!
Useless in the Pacific.
This has tell-tales of being AI generated crap, or possibly just crap. DeLaware? Really?
No AI on this! Maybe it’s my New York accent
@@svgproductions72 The fact that images of a US Dreadnaught were labeled as being of the USS DeLaware tells me you are using AI to generate content. Or you are 'borrowing' content from other AI sources.
Oh that’s just the font I use for captions, the lowercase L looks that way. No AI in this at all, I research these ships and find correct imagery/videos to use as backing. AI is something I do not plan on using for my videos, I’m a bit old school in my thinking!
Anyone doing naval history commentary should be required to know how to pronounce Nevada.
It’s just that New York accent, sorry about that!
So what is every naval historian able to pronounce all japanese ships perfectly? Or all germans? Rubbish
If they donate that to the Philippines then there's no bullying happened